Top 3 Reasons Your Low End SUCKS (...And what to do about it.)

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Fix your bottom end! The low end in your mix is both the hardest part to get right, AND the most important part to get right. Here's what's holding you back. And what you can do about it.
In this episode of the podcast Justin Colletti offers his take on the three things that mess up low end on mixes and what you can do differently for powerful, coherent kicks and basses.
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@mysticteaparty 3 месяца назад

Your videos are the best mixing advices that I found on youtube. And I went through 1000 of them. All that without even opening your DAW. Thank you for your work.

@SonicScoop 3 месяца назад

So awesome to hear! Glad to have you tuning in. -Justin

@ARKenMan 3 месяца назад

I agree.

@Juline1221 Год назад

Not trying to discourage anybody from buying his courses and all that but if you LISTEN!!! To this man hes tell you everything you need to know. Been a big help in getting a career started thank you!!

@petecampbell963 Год назад

Reason No 1, was what I needed! I've watched so many other videos on low end and was pulling my hair out, going back and forth between studio and my car, bouncing countless mixes and not getting it right. This video explained it and fixed my problems with my low end!

@Tekkerue Год назад

"...more audible and powerful lows that are actually doing something, making you move your body, tap your foot, and nod your head instead of *a big amorphous indistinct blob of low end* where you can’t make out anything that’s going on." What a great description! 👍

@monkmusic5994 Год назад

Again: the best and most detailled description with a lot of passion. Than ks mate!!!🙏

@user-qw4qi1yh5l 10 месяцев назад

If his podcast is this valuable, I can imagine how much more valuable is courses are...👏💯

@SonicScoop 10 месяцев назад

That’s the idea! -Justin

@wiggesobk Год назад

Great episode. As always very helpful!

@sonnybrasco9735 Год назад

Really good discussion today Justin. Nice info!

@FursAndMasksMusic Год назад

My comment, because you asked, is, Justin, thank you so much for your incredible sharing of expertise. I never stop learning every time I listen in. There's always things mentioned that affirm that I'm already doing the right thing, and plenty more priceless nuggets of experienced and invaluable know-how to digest with every episode.

@SonicScoop Год назад

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@dragonpride95 Год назад

Idk what it is, but somehow every time I have a question about my mix, somehow you post a video before I even ask. It’s like you’re reading my mind lol xD Great material btw!! Keep it up! 🎧👍

@davidbachy5627 26 дней назад

Great job communicating these concepts! Thank you for sharing.

@Cryptixx604 Год назад

Awesome video, Thanks

@houseoflatin Год назад

excellent observations! cheers

@luxuriousfir Год назад

Solid analogy!

@davebops2478 Год назад

Really good video Justin, thanks very much! I thought your analogy about 3 families was excellent...

@ES2990 Год назад

That house/bass analogy was spot on, man, this is why I'm a new subscriber

@SonicScoop Год назад

Awesome to hear Elijah. So glad to be useful! -Justin

@MrmelodyUs Год назад

Great Analogy!

@JohnFraserFindlay 10 месяцев назад

That analogy is hilarious!

@SonicScoop Год назад

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@murraywebster1228 Год назад

The thing that makes deep bass instruments easier to hear is often the first harmonic, a little saturation can go a long way in those cases…especially for hearing the instruments on small box systems or the infamous „Bluetooth boxes“, also try mixing on your headphones with your sub running too if you have one, use multiple reference tracks to set the level and be sure the volume of the sub goes up and down with the volume on the headphones, also if your sub is nearfield it is better for the neighbours, I made a drum seat that was basically a upfiring 12“ sub with a drum seat fitted on top, that was very effective….

@django3108 5 месяцев назад

I like this but it is important to note that harmonics relate to the fundamental, and since instruments play different notes that aren't necessarily related to the fundamental, you can't just mathematically boost the 1st and 2nd harmonic if the bass is playing a whole bunch of notes that aren't related to those specific positions.

@rome8180 Год назад

My system works pretty well for me: 1) I have a pair of Sennheiser HD650 headphones I use for my initial mix. I can get the midrange and high end sounding pretty good in those. 2) Then I do a second pass on a pair of $40 Bluetooth headphones. The bass in those headphones is way overhyped, and they're kind of dull in the high end. But they're the headphones I've spent the most time listening to when I'm not mixing. At this point I've clocked thousands of hours on them. So I know what low end SHOULD sound like in them. I use them to carve away a bunch of mud. 3) Lastly, I check the mix through my tinny little laptop speakers. This is because sometimes panning and effects sound different on headphones versus speakers. Also, it lets me make sure I've got enough midrange in my bass and kick. I'm not going to say this system is perfect. I often end up thinning out my mix too much during step #2. But I'm rarely "surprised" by the results. And tbh, with my tastes and the genres I like I'd rather have a mix have too little low end than too much.

@DjorMil.CineMusic Год назад

have the same steps with HD600. I always double check with some cheesy JBL bluetooth headphones, really overbased. its so overbassed, that i know when it starts bothering you physically its too much of sub :D haha

@BigTimmy11 Год назад

This is the greatest channel on youtube. We're so damn lucky.

@GeorgeAmodei21 Год назад

Thank you Justin for this VIdeo/POD CAST. Always GREAT Topics. George Amodei

@thelinguistshow Месяц назад

Learning so much

@ARKenMan 3 месяца назад

I wish you would show us how to side-chain the kick with the bass like you were talking about. I'll look for more on that. Very cool idea.

@randyschmuki3173 Месяц назад

Thanks, low end has been one of my biggest problems!

@danjacobson9476 Год назад

Love the apartment/building analogy

@dablizzoduve4576 Год назад

Great tips...in addition hi frequencies also affect your perception lowend a whole lot..no lows without highs... I would love to see Wessel Oltheten in your next mix con sessions...great job 👍👍

@RobertRyda Год назад

Also to add a thing or two: one may use what I call "locking in sound" via frequency (with saturation), and via dynamics (with limiting) on separate premaster groups. Works. In parallel too

@stevenorr54 Год назад

Ha ha. Loved your “house metaphor” all the landlords in the East Village chop up all the apartments to dormitory size and the NYU students don’t care! Thanks for your videos, a lot! Providing actual numbers is so helpful. I’m new to this and YOUR information is truly striking a chord and helping me to understand engineering on a brand new level.

@sonnybrasco9735 Год назад

One of my issues is how much low end to carve out of other instruments to keep the low end clean but still keep things sounding full. Would love to see a video from you on this subject!

@sonnybrasco9735 Год назад

@Pitchfork Inc. solid advice

@ThisMichaelBrown Год назад

Brilliant, thanks Jason....man, the most mysterious land for me is midrange....would be really cool for a tutorial about where instruments live happy in the midrange...ie if things were mixed between 200HZ and 5K...maybe an auratone only mix.....then add in the lows and highs. Thanks for all the great content and wisdom!

@Crossfire2003 Год назад

Yeah. Good analogy.

@SonicScoop Год назад

Awesome! Glad it is working! -Justin

@murraywebster1228 Год назад

My best „trick“ for clear and defined kick and bass is using Sonible smart compressor on the bass in full spectral mode being side chain fed from the kick, it’s the most transparent ducking I’ve ever used, the pumping effect that you can get with a full range compression virtually disappears, try it out..

@DjorMil.CineMusic Год назад

Very very good way to check visually is SPAN on slope lets say 4,5. You manage to keep horizontal line, you are on the good way od proper tonal balance! Although still doesnt have to sound clear, but thats another topic (making proper separation), building family rooms :) SPAN PLUS offers spectrum overlaping, so you can check if bass or kick have enough space to breath.

@daze158 Год назад

You should make a video on how to use your avantones . There is no videos on that out there

@samson4272 Год назад

Have you ever played around with sidechaining with Soothe 2? Curious your thoughts if any. I really like the precision of it frequency-wise. Thanks again for your wonderful channel 🙏🏼

@Bluelagoonstudios Год назад

Last I had a mix, in the low end we found a big kick, a normal kick, a thunderous timpani and big toms, a synth bass and a normal bass, it was quite a challenge to get these good. And I used just an EQ to get things transparent and fat. On one, I used even a bass synth plugin, which turned up the big kick a few dbs. Worked well. So yes, filtering does the job for the low end. The percussion/ drum tracks were 11 tracks, like I said, a big challenge.

@DjorMil.CineMusic Год назад

Great Video. Honestly i was fighting..and still fighting the fact sometimes that you actually have to give up sub space of some inatrument for another lowest instrument. Scooping eq in the sub sometimes help, but if you dont low cut eventually it sounds like thunder and messy…at least in epic/orchestral music, and funny is that it actually somehow eats up everything else in the mix in higher frequencies. Question: If you dedicate sub for the bass 20-70, and then drum kick 70-100, is it that bass comes in the upper bass range ~100-200 or that should be split somehow as well?

@Proofofart Год назад

I'm pretty sure maury is still on the air homie haha 😂 great analogy

@SonicScoop Год назад

Phew, I’m not AS old as I thought I was. -Justin

@Paning Год назад

yeahh I know , sometimes low end sounds like horse doing poo and it sucks, I'm practicing my low end

@sifer2407 Год назад

Omg this happen to me last night. The bass was cluttering my low end. I cut some of the lows The whole track open up. The bass sounded way nicer and clear now.

@Anders01 Год назад

Something I find difficult is to balance the low end between too "fluffy" and too "thin". One mastering engineer cut a bit from 40 Hz and below which made the track clearer and with more punch, but it probably depends on the mix how to cut or boost the low end.

@RodWilkinstheLOCband Год назад

I’m just starting this stuff. I will use this information. Can you get frequency analyzers on a cell phone app? If so, what’s the best???

@guthhalf5484 Год назад

Why for your phone ?

@SonicScoop Год назад

A plugin based analyzer in your DAW is best for the specific purpose discussed in this episode. One built into your phone will tell you more about what your room sounds like than what your mix sounds like. Hope that helps! -Justin

@juricabura8967 9 месяцев назад

When I mix bass and sub stuff in my not so well treated room, i step away from monitors to a corners of the room and listen. I get up few times, but when I walk around the room and subs are not choking me, it just sounds right everywhere. Maybe this can help to someone

@Paning Год назад

and without panels in my room but mixing with closeheadphones and monitoring , it is a good idea?

@SonicScoop Год назад

Generally speaking, open backed headphones are going to have better frequency response and are more optimal for critical listening. The ones I use have a semi-open design that really helps with low end extension, while still having some isolation. There are only a couple of closed back headphones I would think of using for mixing myself, but that doesn't stop some people from getting good results with them. I just think it's more of a challenge. Here are some of my top picks: sonicscoop.com/the-best-open-back-headphones-for-mixing-and-mastering Hope that's helpful! -Justin

@Paning Год назад

@@SonicScoop thanks u so much for the info ,sorry about My english, I was wrong about closed or Open back, yeah i want to try it

@steveannointed2375 Год назад

You're the road map for my progress in music production. I follow you all the time and my production has greatly improved. I believe the Lord Jesus brought you in to this world just for me Justin.

@Proofofart Год назад

When the jz mic giveaway tho haha

@MCAlvesPortugal Год назад

When the kick hits don't play bass notes.

@Uzurr69 Год назад

LMAO, that's one way to do it, but only if you're the one composing the music. It ain't going to work in almost any other instance when you're mixing other people's tracks. I think only EDM puts that much attention to separating the kick and bass in a composition.

@Ninjametal Год назад

A lot of rock bass playing is sync'd with the kick

@Anders01 Год назад

I love the tip about learning how to listen to any headphones, because I haven't figured out the sound of my new Sony headphones yet. Andrew Scheps may be an exception since he said he doesn't even use reference mixes, haha. But even without that kind of massive experience Andrew has it's probably useful to listen to a lot of songs on the same headphones.

@SonicScoop Год назад

Totally. Andrew may not do a lot of DIRECT back to back referencing while he’s mixing, but he’s still referencing by listening to TONS of great sounding records on his headphones so he knows what they should sound like. Often, when I hear great mixer say “I don’t reference” what they really mean is “I don’t directly AB against other things while I am in the middle of mixing”… Which is not how most of the best mixers use references! Often, when people of a high level say “I don’t use references”, they don’t mean what I mean by “references”. Practically all of them do. Just not necessarily in the middle of a mix. And those that understandably don’t do it in the middle of a mix, probably also did at some point in their careers when they were developing their ears! Hope that helps, Justin

@JohnFraserFindlay 10 месяцев назад

Ugh I wish I’d seen this before I sent you my track

@jon0830 Год назад

... "you ARE the father!" 😆

@justinhawes1593 2 месяца назад

My wife has been telling me to fix my bottom end for years

@SonicScoop 2 месяца назад

THEN GET ON IT! Hit the squat rack, asap :-) -Justin

@moerahman6749 Год назад

The bass in my mixes often ends being too loud as a result of having no choice but to mix quietly. What a frustrating irony.

@danjohnsonstudio Год назад

Dan Worrall did a good video about quiet mixing. Basically he uses an equal loudness curve in the chain while mixing. He uses Slick EQ Mastering by Tokyo Dawn. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wgogJmeQFvY.html