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Top 3 Strategies to Profit From the ATR Indicator (Prop Trader Secrets) 

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#tradingindicators #ATR #daytrading
00:00 - Intro to ATR
11:24 - Example 1
15:14 - Example 2
19:34 - Example 3
21:39 - Wrapping Up
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@smbcapital
@smbcapital 11 месяцев назад
SMB Capital trading workshop (free) tinyurl.com/ycx8szmz Garrett on Twitter: twitter.com/GarrettDrinon
@globobai
@globobai 11 месяцев назад
when I register for a workshop or presentation do I need to be available at a certain time or do you provide a link to the workshop to access it online anytime I am available?
@clintarmstrong2075
@clintarmstrong2075 8 месяцев назад
23:05 I am just learning trading papermoney on think or swim, how do I enter an ATR trailing stop ?
@Icky781
@Icky781 7 месяцев назад
Mike I would love to be apart of this superb organization! Wallstreet1982!
@rachaelrb
@rachaelrb 11 месяцев назад
I use ATR daily! I'm full time trader. It's probably the biggest component to my profit taking targets.
@freeaccstuff153
@freeaccstuff153 6 месяцев назад
What else do you use that you like ?
@pearlsofwisdom7569
@pearlsofwisdom7569 5 месяцев назад
What is the best setting according to you?
@glife8478
@glife8478 3 месяца назад
How do you choose which ATR time chart you use does it depend on how long you want to keep the position
@brendan7258
@brendan7258 11 месяцев назад
Can't wait to watch this. When I read about ATR in a book and heard a few top traders mentioning it in interviews it was almost an aha moment, I've now added it to one of my strategies as part of key entry criteria. It was the missing link.
@Enigma_Vids
@Enigma_Vids Месяц назад
This guy is an incredible teacher. Please more videos with this master.
@NonAstrologer1
@NonAstrologer1 11 месяцев назад
I like to use ATR as a percent of the closing price to compare across stocks. I've also started using Keltner channels based on your prior video to spot overextensions. Now, I am going to play around with using it as a trailing stop or target prices.
@reysito40
@reysito40 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, Garret. You are the best. Thanks for clarifying that confusion about the ATR indicator. 💪
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
glad you enjoyed!
@VishalKumar-kv3dp
@VishalKumar-kv3dp 6 месяцев назад
It was really, really awesome! Having known about ATR, I could never think about using this crucial piece of information in such incredible ways. I mean hats off to you guys for really making us understand the way we can play around with ATR for creating a Trading Edge. Thanks a lot....
@TrainAndTrade
@TrainAndTrade 4 месяца назад
Brilliant insight on the many uses of ATR. thanks Garrett and all at SMB.
@b_gumm
@b_gumm 10 месяцев назад
Garrett is one of my new fav SMB video makers. Shoutout to the Steven Spencer materials from back in the day.
@revamp2245
@revamp2245 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for that very informative.. im learning tons from all you guys at smb putting out this great content..
@bashulto
@bashulto 11 месяцев назад
Wow, i´ve been using these ideas for a while. I wish I had learned them sooner! Great content, thanks for sharing!
@richardblake8123
@richardblake8123 11 месяцев назад
My favorite educator/trader with smb let’s goooo!
@AnthonysTradingChannel
@AnthonysTradingChannel 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing this video. It was informative.
@pedropablopimientaperez96
@pedropablopimientaperez96 7 месяцев назад
Thank you Garret, solid video as always !
@Relaxation-Music-Top-of-Mind
@Relaxation-Music-Top-of-Mind 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for quite useful information! It is very good to use ATR for taking higher RR Ratio...
@Sami-me2bj
@Sami-me2bj 11 месяцев назад
Great content like always! Thx Garret!
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
you’re welcome, glad you enjoyed
@JoseVargas-bj1wd
@JoseVargas-bj1wd 11 месяцев назад
Very good video on Average True Range. Thanks!
@nd-kay
@nd-kay 2 месяца назад
Many thanks! I’ll start using this now😊
@gb18f50
@gb18f50 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for responding to the comments requests. I was one of the peole who asked for a more in depth video about ATRs.
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
thanks for your suggestions!
@gb18f50
@gb18f50 11 месяцев назад
@@garrettdrinon Thank you for the free quality content
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
you're welcome@@gb18f50
@peppercornfury
@peppercornfury 11 месяцев назад
ATR is insanely useful. Sizing across stocks to compensate for volatility. Ranges on multiple time frames, like 2x off the 20 SMA. Helpful video, thanks.
@DustinHallen
@DustinHallen 11 месяцев назад
How do you use ATR to size positions?
@peppercornfury
@peppercornfury 11 месяцев назад
@@DustinHallen Risk/ATR=Size
@DustinHallen
@DustinHallen 11 месяцев назад
@@peppercornfury if you trade breakouts on the daily and the breakout occurs after after a 0.25 ATR move, do you offset your sizing to account for that? It's your stop at the low of day less 1 ATR?
@peppercornfury
@peppercornfury 11 месяцев назад
@@DustinHallen Suppose you could slice it how you please, including deciding that you want some multiple of the ATR to be the denominator. In my case it is a generic sizing strategy used on intraday ATRs, such as the 5-minute ATR. I would be range trading with maybe a stop of 1xATR and a target of 2xATR. Entering near 2xATR from the 20 SMA and targeting the 20 SMA.
@DustinHallen
@DustinHallen 11 месяцев назад
@@peppercornfury I see. Thank you!
@yelhsab
@yelhsab 11 месяцев назад
Amazing info thanks Garret 🙌🏼
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
you’re welcome
@neuvocastezero1838
@neuvocastezero1838 24 дня назад
Thanks, I wasn't aware of the trailing ATR indicator, going to look into it.
@craigh5631
@craigh5631 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Garret great info!!
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
you’re welcome
@jstreett1
@jstreett1 3 месяца назад
Thank you! Great explanation!
@yoginacharya2150
@yoginacharya2150 11 месяцев назад
Great lessons as always 👏🙏
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
glad you enjoyed
@emmanronaldo
@emmanronaldo 11 месяцев назад
Always look forward to a new video 🎉🥳
@sandstorm973
@sandstorm973 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this one!
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
you’re welcome
@john2097
@john2097 10 месяцев назад
This is a really helpful post, thank you. One question, ATR is calculated over a range of time. So what is a good range of time? And does this change for more volatile stocks? I’m thinking about daily time frames.
@TerryElrod-yg7yd
@TerryElrod-yg7yd 3 месяца назад
Very helpful information. Thank you.
@isaelsp7866
@isaelsp7866 8 месяцев назад
Excellent explanation!!!
@TekTrader360
@TekTrader360 11 месяцев назад
I like that "Who The Hell Knows" how to write that formula.
@oceanblue2386
@oceanblue2386 11 месяцев назад
We need "Life of a Prop Trader" and hear what they personally go through each day. That would be awesome!
@MatthewNewton735
@MatthewNewton735 4 месяца назад
Caffeine?
@dantarradellas7351
@dantarradellas7351 7 месяцев назад
Awesome. Thank you !
@marksundelowitz4466
@marksundelowitz4466 11 месяцев назад
Garrett really explains trading concepts, in such an easy-to-understand practical way, thank you for the brilliant content.
@heinz20
@heinz20 6 месяцев назад
Great video, thank you
@JeroTrades
@JeroTrades 9 месяцев назад
Brilliant one! ATR, the atomic metric for stock moves. Keltner channels...that's what Justin was using to place overextension trades on a bar by bar trade, right?
@Ben-iq3dv
@Ben-iq3dv 11 месяцев назад
THANK YOU GARRET : )
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
you’re welcome
@nelpono7863
@nelpono7863 2 месяца назад
Thank you!!!
@WaldemarHeimann
@WaldemarHeimann 10 месяцев назад
Very useful! 👍
@DustinHallen
@DustinHallen 10 месяцев назад
Hi Garrett. I like the idea of normalizing an individual stocks intraday/ 3-5 day move by discussing it in terms of how many ATR's it has moved. On your desk, is this normalization done with Keltner Channels or do you express it by dividing ATR14 by ATR1? If the latter, it seems that would vary depending on the timeframe... or am I missing something? Great content as usual! Thank you!!
@DougSmileyVirgo
@DougSmileyVirgo 8 месяцев назад
I'm a VWAP guy but will consider the ATR indicator going forward.
@ianbauer3636
@ianbauer3636 11 месяцев назад
As always great and useful knowledge to improve and enhance our trading. When calculating your daily ATR, what time period is generally being used on the desk? 14? I really like the idea of the ATR trailing stop, Ill have to test that one..
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
default is 10 days on our platform if you want to pick up on changes in volatility then 10 is great if you want a super stable normalization for a model then sometimes the longer the better, like 200
@algallucci9336
@algallucci9336 10 месяцев назад
the atr changes wildly depending on which time frame chart you are looking at so which one are you using?
@sjsphotog
@sjsphotog 2 дня назад
ATRs, Keltner channels and VWAP can all be a good way to monitor price movement
@marikgfx
@marikgfx 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for the great content! From your experience, what is the number of candles to be used for the calculation on the daily timeframe and others. Huge thanks again
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
10 is good for a faster, more sensitive measure - 50 is good for a longer and stable measure
@nicholasgarcia9131
@nicholasgarcia9131 8 месяцев назад
Have you guys used APTR ? is the same but represented as a percentage TOS has it.. I believe is easier to work with and also can normalize the ranges between tickers
@_SeeIt
@_SeeIt 11 месяцев назад
ATR and ATPR for different needs.
@christ7199
@christ7199 4 дня назад
Guys, Renko set to ATR - only on TOS. If Renko closes green, look for long the next day visa versa. Has a 70 to 80% predictability. There is more to it to explain here. But start studying it.
@Carmelia630
@Carmelia630 11 месяцев назад
Which indicators are you using a lot? And you changing settings or not?
@airportworker_fra
@airportworker_fra 23 дня назад
The Best!
@aminebenafla
@aminebenafla 4 месяца назад
normelizing expectations of the risks and the wins in better words !
@thesofiafactor2566
@thesofiafactor2566 11 месяцев назад
Hi Garrett I loved the video… especially the trailing stops wow that’s a game changer for me as this is one of my difficulties. I was wondering if you can help me with something though… I have to trade on IBKR and their ATR seems different to what you use. Are you familiar with IBKR ? And can you help me understand how to use their ATR so I can set it correctly? If at all possible please. I thank you in advance with whatever you can help me with ❤
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
i’m glad you got something out of it! sorry, but i don’t use IBKR so i can’t help you there, but i looked on their site and it appears they do have a traditional ATR indicator available
@Artharjan
@Artharjan 7 месяцев назад
Hi.. what is the average period used to calculate daily ATR in the examples you have shown in this video?
@mo_joe963
@mo_joe963 11 месяцев назад
Do you fund traders with their own strategy? I have one that shows up in the market every single day for large caps, but I need to be able to manage 50 lots minimum, or else there is no point.
@richardpowell1923
@richardpowell1923 8 месяцев назад
Great Video thank you. Can you just confirm are you using the prior days ATR for calculations or an average of the ATR?
@enriquetamarit3925
@enriquetamarit3925 6 месяцев назад
To calculate the daily atr correctly pick the last say 20 days. Add up the ATR for those 20 days and then divide that number by 20 and you’ll have the average daily ATR for the last 20 days. 😊
@oinbar
@oinbar 11 месяцев назад
Good lesson. I'm trying to use ATR to set my strike prices on iron Condor, trading SPX. I typically use 21-30 days for expiration. What's the best way to apply the ATR in this case?
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
i’d need to know more about your strategy to be more specific with an idea, but using some reference to a weekly candle ATR in this case might be useful
@oinbar
@oinbar 11 месяцев назад
@@garrettdrinon thanks for the quick response. What other info do you need?
@surenkhalsa
@surenkhalsa 11 месяцев назад
Good stuff, but can u tell me if there is anything ATR could be used for ( except trail) which cannot be done through Keltner..even trail could be..thnx
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
Keltner is built on ATR just all variations on the same measurement, utilizing it in different ways whole idea is normalization via measuring volatility
@VolatilityTrading27
@VolatilityTrading27 11 месяцев назад
ATR is great and all, but which periods do you use on which timeframes? Throwing up the stock ATR study gives you 14 period. Well that looks a lot different on a 1 minute chart versus a daily chart. How would one go about communicating with other traders, if they are talking about different periods of ATR? Assuming everyone on the desk is told to use a certain period, so this makes sense, but if you meet some random trader who uses ATR, you might use it completely different than them? Or am I missing something?
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
when speaking on the desk we’re always referring to daily ATR, our default period is 10 days - when using ATR for specific strategies then we can drill down to shorter timeframes and this becomes specific to the strategy you’re trading the period does not make a huge difference the timeframe makes a huge difference
@MrDeGuise
@MrDeGuise 11 месяцев назад
Statisticaly, greater the number of periods you consider, greater is the validity of your measure of the volatility. Lets say if you want the mean volatility for one hour, better take 200 hours thant just 8. So there you can see that if you consider both, you have a comparison of recent volatility with long terme one. My hypothesis is that mesuring it over historical time gives you kind of «intrinsic» volatility of the stock, while the last datas gives you the effect of the addition of new informations. But of course, using the same parameters than the crowd is never a bad idea, whatever.
@Optionswithchase
@Optionswithchase 11 месяцев назад
do you offer any in house training? like if I flew there from Florida could I come there and further my trading education?
@mbellafiore19
@mbellafiore19 11 месяцев назад
Send an email to info@smbcap.com please
@brucekim1007
@brucekim1007 8 месяцев назад
Could I get help understanding how at 20:20 price going from about $20 to $90 in five days represent 4.5 daily ATRs?
@danielwestereng155
@danielwestereng155 9 месяцев назад
ballin
@ShubhamSharma-to5po
@ShubhamSharma-to5po 12 дней назад
SIr , do you provide training.??
@jamesbond3391
@jamesbond3391 10 месяцев назад
Would someone please explain to me and everyone who doesn't know what a day one move or a day 3 move is?
@jakeb3055
@jakeb3055 11 месяцев назад
This guy is the MCA of Prop Trading “strictly ATR is the style I go…never prop trade with the pantyhose”
@ralphgehteha9924
@ralphgehteha9924 6 месяцев назад
THE most important indicator along with EMAs to me. Regarding stddev, it is based on gaussian normal distribution which rarely ever occurs in trading. Hence, no point in using it, and as a result Bollinger bands don't make sense.
@shaikabdulsaleem3233
@shaikabdulsaleem3233 8 месяцев назад
You mean ATR value changes with price of the stock depending on volatility. How ATR value is helpful for trading. Which ATR value is better- higher or low.
@elmamo2000
@elmamo2000 8 месяцев назад
Probably a stupid question here, how/where do I find what is the daily ATR of a stock?
@helloworld6330
@helloworld6330 11 месяцев назад
I use ATR relative to ADR to filter stocks for overnight hold
@DustinHallen
@DustinHallen 11 месяцев назад
Can you give more details on how you use this with overnight holds? You present an interesting concept.
@helloworld6330
@helloworld6330 11 месяцев назад
@@DustinHallen you can choose a long lens ATR and ADR settings. ADR is range without gaps. ATR is range with gaps. Divide one by the other. If smaller the difference, the smaller the probability of the gap over a chosen period.
@DustinHallen
@DustinHallen 11 месяцев назад
@@helloworld6330 interesting! Thank you!
@johnotaran
@johnotaran 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video - not sure I got the 4.5 ATRs in 5 days example
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
you’re measuring how many daily ranges a stock can trade from low to high in 5 days. 4.5-5 is alot for certain setups as it means it has traded higher an average daily range every day without pulling back on the daily timeframe
@johnotaran
@johnotaran 11 месяцев назад
​@@garrettdrinon "Ok, if I'm understanding correctly, a stock that moves 4.5 ATRs over a 5-day span generally signals a strong trend. I am guessing this is related to the concept of 'average true move,' where each leg of the stock's movement sets the stage for the next leg. In this video , where the stock topped and then reversed, if the prior 5-day leg saw the stock moving just 3 ATRs, then a subsequent 4.5 ATR move in the following 5-day leg could likely be considered an overextension, correct?"
@johnotaran
@johnotaran 11 месяцев назад
@@garrettdrinon "Thanks for the explanation.If I'm understanding correctly, a stock that moves 4.5 ATRs over a 5-day span generally signals a strong trend. Is this linked to the concept of 'average true move,' where each leg of the stock's movement sets the stage for the next leg ? So for example where VFS topped and then reversed, although it's not visible on the chart, if the prior 5-day leg saw the stock moving just 3 ATRs, then a subsequent 4.5 ATR move in the following 5-day leg could likely be considered an overextension, correct?"
@ATLJB86
@ATLJB86 11 месяцев назад
@@johnotaranNot necessarily. It’s a average meaning it can go above or below. If 3 is a average then you could bevgetting a 5 move and a 2 move that averages at 3 but doing 5 doesn’t mean it’s extended. That’s just normal but on average it’s 3 because sometimes it does 2 rather then 5. You can’t say something is strong just based on moving 5 ATR because ATR will be different on each stock. Just think of it as an average range the stock will move but it can go above or below the ATR number.
@PoblanoTrader
@PoblanoTrader 11 месяцев назад
Great video, thank you ! How many bars do you set up the daily ATR ? and why?
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
for a lookback period for the average?
@DustinHallen
@DustinHallen 11 месяцев назад
​@@garrettdrinondo you use 14 period or 20?
@PoblanoTrader
@PoblanoTrader 11 месяцев назад
@@garrettdrinon correct, some charting platforms will have 14, 20, 21 days per default, and as the daily ATR value is very important for this strategy as shown in the view, I was trying to find out what is the number that SMB uses as standard. Thank you again.
@skunkape5918
@skunkape5918 11 месяцев назад
💪💛🍻
@sashahanna1870
@sashahanna1870 7 месяцев назад
You must know your exit before you enter the trade in the first place
@justicewatch4602
@justicewatch4602 11 месяцев назад
Great video, but I noticed his voice would go up and down in volume at times when he was finishing a sentence or point.
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! and not sure if that was a varying distance of the mic as i moved around or not but will work on that
@justicewatch4602
@justicewatch4602 11 месяцев назад
@@garrettdrinon Cool. And thank you for all the amazing vids.
@linxdude
@linxdude 11 месяцев назад
I didn't really notice it. I wouldn't be to worried about changing anything. But that's my take on it.
@gs_smith
@gs_smith 7 месяцев назад
ATR I use custom is 21 & 1 with 7 & 14 sma
@i_am_processing_
@i_am_processing_ 11 месяцев назад
Use an ATR multiple on a LTF to set stop loss and targets, this will result in better profitability.
@user-rz1br5li6x
@user-rz1br5li6x 3 месяца назад
Good ah-ha moment.
@Roderickbernardino4509
@Roderickbernardino4509 11 месяцев назад
Where’s the inside day? Please explain. You’re trying to teach right? Don’t assume everyone knows inside day. Thanx
@garrettdrinon
@garrettdrinon 11 месяцев назад
an inside day is when the daily candle range prints inside the range of the previous candle, in this case day 1 is earnings day, then an inside day, then a breakout
@Georgina650
@Georgina650 11 месяцев назад
I came here to learn how to invest after listening to a guy on radio talk about the importance of investing and how he made $960,000 in 4 months from $160k, somehow this video has helped shed light on some things, but I'm still confused, I'm a newbie and I'm open to ideas.
@hernandezgomez932
@hernandezgomez932 11 месяцев назад
The digital market turned out favorable! $60,000 every month. I can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church, God bless America❤
@braddeicide
@braddeicide 5 дней назад
3 atr = 300%, why not just use %
@haliShanna
@haliShanna 8 месяцев назад
So if you gonna watch the video, just skip the forst 10 min. I do t know why they do t realize, the time is precious and no need for ...whatever.
@walerycross
@walerycross 4 месяца назад
+++++
@hans6422
@hans6422 11 месяцев назад
Why always talking stocks ? Trade Indices
@Firemedic2105
@Firemedic2105 10 месяцев назад
11 x 70 IS NOT 360... (the comment that BRK is 70x the price of AMC). I hope the rest of this is more accurate than your math skills. 😬😆
@aprofromuk
@aprofromuk 2 месяца назад
i think for some cases ADR wud be a simpler tool achieveing the same objective :)
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