I have never made up a bed with sheets & blankets on a tear-down bed. That's too labor-intensive. I just use a sleeping bag. Unroll to sleep. Roll it up to quickly stash it away.
I agree, sleeping bags are much better, especially for a Class B. I like what Christian Schafer does with her sleeping bags, stuffs them into a case to make a throw pillow during the day.
Good video..first time I've seen you two. Those who add negative Class B comments should not buy a Class B. Those who say the Liesure Travel Van models are the best should understand that all LTV coaches are Class B+, normally one foot wider than a true class B, almost to the width of a Class C and bigger to drive, park, etc. If that's what they want, go for it..but, LTVs are a year out to order as of last month. Finally, the 2020 -2021 specs on the Coachmen Galleria are amazing; many previous options are all standard making it a true four-season coach, down to +5 °F. And, it does come with the Truma Combi water heater and furnace in one unit, plus (check out the specs as it has come with this for several years) the "shower miser" that heats the water without wasting a drop until it gets the water up to your desired temp. YES, we do have a new Galleria 24FL 4x4 with Li3 Lithium package on order and are really looking forward to it. Yes, Class B RVing has some limitations but also a lot of advantages. We have checked them all out and have made the choice that is right for us and we shall see how we like it. You guys have given your viewers s lot of great information. Thanks!
I really liked that last on the best. It looks like it made the best use of all the space, and the bed actually looks like it would be comfortable to sleep on, which is the most important thing in the van. If you can't sleep in it, it's no better than a non-RV van.
I just watched a video with you both in it about class Bs. The van campers I call them. Very good. They all look very nice and you both dug a great job at showing them. You were like pros. This video was a year ago I think. Very nicely done. Thank you for the video. See you soon! Stay safe.
One thing about the pleasure way bed setup. We just leave them split at the feet. Really easy to flip your legs into the gap to go to the washroom at night without disturbing your partner. No need to turn it into a full bed.
Check out the 2022 American Coach Patriot MD 2. It's all lithium battery. No generator. No propane. It is truly awesome and beautiful. Oh and it's very stealth without anything on the outside which screams RV. So it's very clean looking on the outside which should make it very stealthy.
Nicely done Vlog and camera work. I like that you gave pros and cons, prices along with the specs, your own personal insites, and also compared the features they have to other RV'S. Like the included bloopers also!
Yep , 4 years full time in the 59k. Entering this van in 60 mile an hour wind driven rains is not an issue. Go through the back, step right onto shower pan.
I have a folding Greenspeed Magnum XL recumbent trike that can be put inside a large bag sold by Radical Design. It can slide inside the RV while traveling. I always look at every RV with this aspect in mind. For lighter people, other folding models can be purchased like the Catrike Dumont or the HP Velotechnik Scorpion fs. Room for two of them is important. It is perfect to get set up at a campsite and then ride these around to explore everything after you get all settled in.
A vehicle this size is the perfect alternative to airplane-and-hotel travel for long and shorter trips, plus being able to stop and enjoy the local scenery along the way, while having most of the conveniences of home. A traveling musician might think of this as a more economicall version of a tour bus. It can also serve as a mobile office/sleeping quarters. This is also most practical because you can cook your food and plan meals on your own time, as well as pack and unpack on your own scheduls and keep an extra set of pots, pans and sheets out there for a quick getaway. .
I know this is a 2020 video, but I'm so happy I found you guys! The way you explain things is gentil and very honest! I'm really enjoying your videos! Subscribed today!
Frankly if your class B RV is not Sprinter based, you're nutso as the Merc diesel gives you the generator addition along with the superior mileage and that saves much much much travel time with less stops which is a big help. Curious as to no inclusion of the Class B's I've seen with slideouts as that gives you the much needed wider space help and bigger TV's as well?? Lastly any opinion on the electric bed riser option I've seen in the Revel...it also allows for the quick bed and bedding setup ? also us skiers love that 4x4 too
Eat See RV the smaller fridge is a downside to the FL. The bathroom is smaller too. However, the ability to leave the bed made and have the fully usable front living (FL) area with tv and computer desk is a full timers dream. It is interesting to see some Europe based coaches incorporating a front living area with enclosed bathroom and good storage come about now. One thing to think about for younger adventurous van dwellers is 4x4 capability. It makes a HUGE difference in usability and self reliance to handle sticky situations.
(6:46) It's good aerobic exercise and prevents folks from being total couch potatoes. By attaching a brick or two on the table top and cushions, one can engage in strength-training exercises to tone flabby body parts.
The first one the lexor is using a fridge that has proven to keep food warm, thus winnebago and ALL others have stopped using this fridge and went to a compressor fridge. That fridge looks great because its large but completely fails in every aspect of real use! My first Travato used that fridge and once winnebago became aware that the fridge does not work switched to a compressor fridge! I am PROUD of WINNEBAGO to use the compressor fridge in all their RV:) FINALLY!
I ran around the show yesterday basically looking at the same things. I could have stayed home and watched your video haha! It was good to see the models in person though. Thanks for the tours! 🚐
Everything is in a proactive state of flux right now and that is good. Demand drives the market and assures that everything keeps progressing at a fast pace.
Travato: “You can get up to 200 W of solar installed from the factory”. Correction: 215 watts on the 2020s and it comes standard - or at least that’s the configuration that comes on every one we saw at several dealerships. That was one of the deciding features for us. $85,404 sticker price for a 2020.5 59G with 2 solar panels and generator standard, power awning, ladder and bike rack. We pick our new Travato up Monday. Woo hoo!
You can certainly sleep on the bed front to back just lowering the couch, it’s like a skinny twin on leg room. Just maybe not on “romantic” nights, lol. I love the travato with the twin! As a single lady who would like my daughter or sister to join occasionally, that bathroom rocks over those mid baths!
I love class B’s. So cute! I would actually buy a truck and camper instead. I would have a fixed bed that I can put a good quality mattress in. The bed in the class B’s seem to be covered with vinyl or leather. That seems like it would be squeaky when you move, sweaty when hot and your sheets wouldn’t stay put. That just doesn’t seem comfy, and I value a good night’s sleep.
The Winnebago Travato KL is what I plan on getting. Love the floor plan and the Volta battery system! Can go off grid with that batter for a good while!
FYI, lay the bed flat, leave the middle-end cushions off, and just put your feet on the ottomans. Makes it a set of twins with a connection at the top. Also makes it easier to get in and out of bed.
It actually still works, if one is short. I’m 5’1”, he’s 5’6”, and we can sleep either direction on a “connected twin”. Of course, not everyone is short. Probably better off getting a B+ if one or both partners are over about 5’8”. Just more room in a B+.
Get a Wonder Murphy Bed (Leisure), at 24 feet (only 3 feet longer than Winnie Travato) but they are amazing and I have never seen better design so far in a Class B. I have seen 2019's as low as 80K, truly a design masterpiece.
I want a PW Lexor TS and found on Amzn a wood pull out pantry that would fit the coat closet giving me more pantry storage. I figure if I can afford this vehicle I can also afford to stop at any hotel IF..I desire a night of more space.The short version allows me to park anywhere as USA's average parking space is just under 20' . I also look for the conveniences offered in this particular model while going down the road. PW's quality in the build is superior IMO and I see that as a good return on my investment. The Class B is designed for a single or couple. Thank you for sharing the over views.
The Travato 59G is one of my favorites as well, but it doesn’t have the microwave/convection combo like the K - only a microwave, which is a con for me. I like to bake.
Re: Making and unmaking the bed each night: Where would you store the bedding? Furthermore, you're going to want some kind of mattress topper otherwise all those nooks and crannies in the couch cushions will be so uncomfortable. So where does that get stored? Seems to me once you set up that bed, that's the way it's going to stay. =D
Nice comparison video. Pardon the pun, but the Travato G really seems to be in a class by itself. The front dinette, murphy bed, large bathroom, and large refrig/freezer are all better features for full-time RVing. It also appeared to be the only one with positive locking drawers and cabinets. And you could upgrade to lithium and still be cheaper than the premium brands in the comparison. Now if only Winnebago would introduce a class B-plus version of the Travato to get a bit more interior room and exterior storage.
I really like the layout of the Travato G. Shorter is much easier to drive and park. I'm not convinced that the Sprinters are cheaper to run considering the maintenance along with limited places that can service them.
I think the husband was right in the first one because making that bed would be a chore every day. The wife was right on the last one because that bed is really easy and look at all the storage you still have access to.
I'm really hoping the Panoramic RV gets to America soon. Best class B layout IMO. Stationary bed, garage, front lounge and views for days. Hope more get to review it.
Thank you for the great demonstration and explain the pluses and minuses of the Class B units...after having a Class A for many years, I see that there's many trade-offs. Thanks again!⚘
We did find 1 we liked online but they didn't have the model at the show! We don't love twin beds personally as we like body heat and each other haha but if you're cool sleeping separate it's nice living space. - Liz
I watched this video when it originally came out and now I am watching again. I like the Pleasureway vans but I wish they would be designed with a drop down bed in the rear that was motorized. Like a happy jack bed or the ones over the cockpit areas in some class A rigs. Then underneath the drop down bed there would be a wrap around lounge of sorts with a removable table that can also swing out to the side. I feel a mattress is a mattress and a cushion is not a mattress. This way you could have both areas and your bed could be raised to the ceiling all day when not in use. By moving the sitting area under the bed this would free up an additional 3 linear feat or so in the van behind the kichen/bathroom area.
We looked at vans but ended up buying a truck camper on a Ram Megacab 3500 4x4. Absolutely love it and lots of storage with the Megacab. How about showing us some of the new truck campers?
I like the girl's style that the Travato 59G is her fav. Nice to have plenty space to walk in & out the back when you want, and I would put a small (closeable) window in the back bathroom wall in line with the van window for the view, and you could always drop in a bigger bathroom sink. If this is 21 ft., I'd like to see the space difference in a 22 ft. class B (like the Ford Transit) in the same floor plan, maybe longer bed and longer bathroom..??
A travel trailer seems like a much better and less expensive option for full time living. Class B just doesn't have the storage, and packing up everything to run to the store for more beer would be a huge PITA.
Travel trailer will always be bigger when attached to a truck unless it's like an rpod, tear drop, or super small 10ft trailer. It's also not as annoying as you'd think because pack up and set up take very little time. We have a scooter we bring with us in case we need to run somewhere. - Liz
Coachman 24FL has too many drawbacks especially considering it is two feet longer than the previous sprinter: smaller bath, smaller fridge, smaller almost unusable sink(smaller than the sink in my first 8 ft. slide in camper in 1964). The Fresh and Grey tanks are also SMALLER!!! WTF? and the black is way bigger than needed. Doesn't have the comfort + recirculating hot water!! Lastly, $150,000 will buy a medium class A albeit gas rig or med.-lg. class C Diesel !!
If you read the comments you would know are big fans of those "high class" European models. They definitely have much more unique and space saving floor plans abroad.
Where do the get the power for the AC or heater? How do they charge their lithium batteries? Who will do repairs if something breaks? The internal workings of these things are so complex, that for many people it's easier to boy a slightly used F250 and improvise. You can get everything for 25K, not for 150K.
@@EatSeeRV My mistake. I meant E-250, E-350, etc. Ford, Chevy, Dodge all have these vans that are durable, simple and last forever. Stay clear of Mercedes.
We have a Mercedes and haven't had any issues. I think you can have problems with any of them. Parts will be more expensive but there are definitely qualified mechanics for any. - Liz
We've given the tour, and commented an engine as Mercedes Turbodiesel. In addition to the basic 3 interior layouts by the 3 basic class-B manufacturers (Winnebago, Coachmen & Pleasure-Way) mentioned, could've given other engine options..ie, Ford's V6 Turbo Ecoboost, and non-turbo Dodge's V6 Pentastar. The engine type(s), drivetrain(s), and towing is my go to information and then functional layout(s). After all, I'd want to know which rig will be in the shop for repair(s) or get more road time.
