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Top 5 BEST VALUE Hardcore Hardtails of 2023! 

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There are dozens of reasons why I choose to ride an aggressive hardtail, but one of the main reasons for me, and I’m sure many of you, is the value of these incredible bikes! In today’s video I’m giving you my top 5 choices for hardcore hardtails under $2,000, as well as my top buy for an insane GX equipped bike for less than $1,500! If you found this video helpful or entertaining don’t forgot to give it a like a subscribe to our channel for more of the same!
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00:00 Intro
01:22 Marin San Quentin 3
04:29 Canyon Stoic 4
06:54 Vitus Sentier VRS
08:41 Rocky Mountain Growler 40
11:14 On-One Hello Dave GX
14:49 And the Winner is…
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@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Math has never been my strong suit, the correct price for the Hello Dave GX is actually $1,645, which is still an insane deal! Thanks to those who pointed this out to me 🤙
@durrantmiller8810
@durrantmiller8810 Год назад
Do you know if they is a US seller of that bike because With import fees it may be just as expensive or possibly more as some of the others
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Not sure on that, sorry!
@Mistic00727
@Mistic00727 Год назад
@@durrantmiller8810 did you verify how much it would cost to ship it into the US? I’m also interrsted
@HomiesAdventures
@HomiesAdventures Год назад
Growler for the win!!!! Love my Growler. Haven't had a complaint about it. Been slowly building mine to be an Enduro/ Park monster
@timsonomnom
@timsonomnom Год назад
I just ordered the Canyon Stoic 4 yesterday, but here in the EU we get the silver frame and supposedly better components like Shimano Deore 12 speed drivetrain, Shimano Deore M6120 brakes and DT Swiss AM LN 370 rims. I paid €1858,80 in total for it to be delivered to my door. It is supposed to be delivered between the 29th of May and the 9th of June. So stoked!
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Hell ya man, sounds like a rad bike!! Enjoy 🤙
@_mgiles
@_mgiles Год назад
I just got the green one a couple months ago with dt swiss hubs and rims. Sick deal.
@davidh7414
@davidh7414 10 месяцев назад
Another suggestion - The Fluid HT, Torrent AL HT and Fuse 29er are all being discounted now and are great bikes aligned with your criteria.
@radianalba9293
@radianalba9293 Год назад
Rode growler 40 2021 , can’t complain, really love it
@matthewserna7475
@matthewserna7475 10 месяцев назад
I have a growler, damn thing is absolutely amazing. If trails aren't too raggedy, nothing this bike can't handle, no matter how steep or fast
@flyBri831
@flyBri831 2 месяца назад
Dude, Love your videos FOR SURE!!! I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR ALL OF US!!!!
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 2 месяца назад
Wow man, I really appreciate that!
@Chr027
@Chr027 Год назад
Nukeproof Scout, Ragley Mmmbop, Commencal Meta
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Tons of good options out there, but I tried to pick a range that represented a wide variety of budgets and riders. I featured all of those in this video, check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OHY20bEKbs4.html
@bikemike1118
@bikemike1118 Год назад
Apart from that : since England has „brexited“ there are additional customs that make bikes from there not a very good value any more - outside of GB.
@josetxulopez4569
@josetxulopez4569 11 месяцев назад
And Orbea Laufey in first position
@DrCJ7
@DrCJ7 11 месяцев назад
Great video..... and I Love my Stoic 4 (Mk1 with Sram and Alex Rims).... that green monster give me only joy, from there the sky is the limit!!!
@TopToBottomMTB
@TopToBottomMTB Год назад
Nice work homie!!💪🏻
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Thanks man 🤙
@hardtailharry6812
@hardtailharry6812 Год назад
Had my ragley for 4 years now, it's been a great bike and super fun pointed downhill. I'm looking for a new hardtail, yet its kind of hard when this ragley hasn't let me down and still surprises me how much confidence it gives me. Feel like I've become one with the bike haha
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
That’s awesome, definitely great bikes! What frame were you on?
@hardtailharry6812
@hardtailharry6812 Год назад
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy Its a 2017 ragley marley xl, I've just maintained it and upgraded the bits that have failed. I do like the quentin 3 that's a hell of a hardtail! The hello dave sure looks good on paper but Ive noticed a few people struggling with them on the trails, I heard one guy saying its just too long and can't get it round those tight berms whilst looking like he's bit the dirt a few times lol Yeah the dave is uber cool!!!
@davidh7414
@davidh7414 10 месяцев назад
Yep agree with you. The Vitus Sentier hardtail just confuses me. It has massively long seat tube for no apparent reason. Its anywhere from 30 - 60mm longer than its competitors. The crazy thing is that they actually reduced the seat tube length from earlier models! Last thing I want when descending steeps is a high saddle pushing me forward over bars.
@thomaswebb9410
@thomaswebb9410 Год назад
I built up my on one hello dave at the beginning of the year after getting sick of full susses breaking on me. genuinely the most capable and fun bike I've ever ridden and can keep up with all my mates on Enduro bikes
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
That’s awesome man! I’d love to try one out someday!
@PDillz
@PDillz Год назад
Got the 2022 growler 40 from a local shop and that got me $1400 out the door, also it didn't have the Clark's brakes, it came with Shimano mt401 brakes. I've heard good things on the Clark's so I wasn't worried about them but I was also happy when I looked and the brakes were very decent shimanos. Also they come with a built in hard plastic mud flap. Actually just traded this bike even tho I just got it, I belong on a 27.5 and found someone a few hours away willing to trade me their commencal meta with better specs so I really just got that bike for $1400 out the door and a long day trip. Well worth it.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Nice man, great deal!
@scstinger5
@scstinger5 Год назад
Wow, nice! I’m not crazy about my RM Growler either and want to switch back to 27.5 also. I kinda feel like I’m sitting way up high when riding it. Like I’m up on a tractor with no feel or connection to the ground underneath me and somehow the seat is always in the way… even when it’s all the way down?
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Definitely try the San Quentin then! 27.5” wheels and a pretty low stack compared to other aggressive hardtails
@mleavitt787
@mleavitt787 Год назад
Not really a budget bike, but you should check out the Salsa Timberjack! I’m not an expert in geometry, but on paper it looks like it would be a really fun 130mm trail bike. Plus, being Salsa, it has lots of water bottle mounts everywhere to carry gear
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
I actually included in this buyers guide! It definitely looks like a fun, super versatile bike! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7iaF3D5JvGA.html
@johnandmarie7250
@johnandmarie7250 Год назад
I had this shortlist of budget HTs with mid-level components, good reviews, dedicated fans, $2K range, etc. Stoic, Meta, Scout, Timberjack, et al. All more the same than different (modern aggro geo, value priced, blah blah) at least for an aging gravel/CX/roadie who doesn’t even yet know exactly who he is on a MTB. Suddenly, without warning, an unadvertised flash sale on the Stoic 4 $1499! $500/25% off just like that! It was a a sign! So I bought it!
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Sick deal!!
@joshdesj
@joshdesj Год назад
That’s my black On One there towards the end, shout out to Jake at the bike lab in Anacortes, WA who did a killer job with my custom build! Guys I love this bike… it’s a lot of fun to ride, and yes it SMASHES the downhill! Super fun to ride up at Galbraith! Sturdy, supple, long and slack for sure. I’ve been having a lot of fun these last few months on it. Been riding it more than my transition spire!! Admittedly this is not a playful and jibby little jumper, however it is still a lot of fun on the jump lines and climbs well enough. That price is ridiculous! I definitely spent way more than that, but also pieced it together with exactly what I wanted so I do have a better spec all The way around. Like I said, I really really dig this bike and highly recommend it to anyone thinking about. I’m 6’-1” about 230lbs for reference and am on an XL. I’ve never felt so comfortable in a cockpit before. Love it!
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Thanks for sharing man! Your experience on that bike has definitely swayed me towards it haha, I used to think it was kinda dumb, but now I want one 😂
@wernerschodts8839
@wernerschodts8839 Год назад
I bought a Trek Rosco 9, very happy with it !! Only the tropper post , makes a lot of noise when you sit on it has too much spelling !! But otherwise I love it ......
@derekhellmann515
@derekhellmann515 Год назад
Thanks Comrade. I got the Growler 50.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Nice, super rad bike!!
@durrantmiller8810
@durrantmiller8810 Год назад
Ragley Blue Pig (steel) race is on sale on chain reaction for 1850 as well as the Big Wig (Aluminum) Race and they come with a lyrik RC, XT/SLX, and nukeproof wheels.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Dude I just saw that haha, that Blue Pig is an insane deal right now 🤯🤯
@mikej1348
@mikej1348 Год назад
Good work on the video. Could you mention the reach numbers on the medium size too? I think that would benefit more people on this channel.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
To be honest I just stick with one Dive for the sake of brevity. Hopefully it gives you a ball park range of the bike’s sizing and you can check their website for details on your specific size 🤙
@Deuce_Dufresne
@Deuce_Dufresne 10 месяцев назад
Might wait for a sale on the Vitus and pull the trigger
@Cmoney1106
@Cmoney1106 10 месяцев назад
Cannondale Habit HT. Really cool looking handrail, great spec and it’s under 1300.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 10 месяцев назад
It sure is! Check out the video we did on it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VpX3F4lEYXo.htmlsi=KeTfEbgQMQ-jJdim
@jeffreydzialo
@jeffreydzialo Год назад
Great video! How is the marin rear end ride compliance? Seat stays look thin, perhaps its vertically compliant? Curious on you thoughts
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
You would think huh? It’s definitely a more damped feel than the previous model, but still relatively stiff. Definitely stiffer than my RSD Middlechild which has a shockingly compliant ride given the fat tubing haha
@dadbod4life
@dadbod4life Год назад
I would have bought the Hello Dave but living in Wisconsin we pedal up hill 90% of our rides. I choose the R spec Santa Cruz Chameleon 8 for 20% off and added i9 hydra hubs to the stock raceface wheels. All in about 3k for an amazing hardtail with great spec. Without the 20% sale the chameleon is a bit steep in price.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Nice, I would definitely say you made the right call!
@dadbod4life
@dadbod4life Год назад
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy Its still tempting to order one just to try. Strip it and sell the frame. So tempting. You could not buy all the parts for the price of that bike.
@chrisinmontreal
@chrisinmontreal Год назад
Picked up The Growler 50 2022 on sale (20%) and it's just dialed in
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Nice! That’s a super rad bike!
@SilverbackOrangutan71
@SilverbackOrangutan71 Год назад
Marin San Quentin best bike out there!! I only ride stairs/urban downhill. I don’t think people will ever accept the sq as best hardtail
@cf9590
@cf9590 Год назад
Ill accept it as the best hardtail, tryin to get all the sq3 frames lol
@SilverbackOrangutan71
@SilverbackOrangutan71 Год назад
@@cf9590 love it! I ride a 2 the blue one- I really want the new one since it’s more slack.
@ipexity5041
@ipexity5041 7 месяцев назад
Don't know if it exists in the usa, but the radon cragger costs 1200$, has a bomber z2 fork, xt drivetrain, sunringle boost wheels, maxxis dhf and dhr2 tires, Magura MT Thirty 4 piston brakes and a dropper. The other components are either from shimano or e13... it's a crazy deal
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 7 месяцев назад
Oh sick, thanks for sharing!!
@declanmartin1441
@declanmartin1441 Год назад
I have a on one hello Dave they amazing bikes for the money upgrades due soon
@kiethpederson7558
@kiethpederson7558 10 месяцев назад
Just ordered vitus vrs over the chameleon al d , hope i made a good choice
@niberdoom
@niberdoom Год назад
Very nice overwiev of what I am looking for. If you are coming from an full damped carbon XC bike( Scott RC 900), and just looking for some fun riding in woods with alot of over rock gardens, big roots, fallen trees and not going to spend to time in the skate park or very big jumps, wich of these do you recomend? And the riding will not only be downhill. Just tired of my XC bike is to heavy in the front, and not as playful. Shuld be easy to get the front wheel up a little bit. Also size? 187cm...
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Of those bikes I’d say it sounds like the Stoic or Rocky Mountain would be best, depending on your price point. I personally ride an RSD Middlechild and absolutely love it, super playful and adjustable (can be set up 27.5, 29, or MX). It’s a bit pricier than the bikes on this list, but if you can stretch your budget up to $2,300 or so I’d say it’s definitely worth it 🤙
@Alderonn10
@Alderonn10 Год назад
I built my Marino hardtail for under 2K. But I did go budget on some parts.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
That’s awesome!! I really want to build up a Marino! How do you like the frame? Did you do custom geometry?
@michaelsturgeon5210
@michaelsturgeon5210 Год назад
I run a dave for a year, the good it descends very well and climbs reasonabley well considering tge aggressive geo ...the bad, its a really heavy and unforgiving frame . The seat position is really uncomfortable on longer rides ,it's the only bike I've ever had where it feels like the bottom bracket is behind the seat when peddling, the paint Finnish and durability is terrible. The gx drivetrain is paired with a nx cassette so not 52 tooth. Shifter is mounted on the breaks as is the reverb lever which is nice. Reverbs a 175 which is also nice .
@joshdesj
@joshdesj Год назад
Interesting you had that experience with it being so uncomfortable for you, mine fits me great and I regularly am on long-ish rides and in the saddle for a while. It is a bit heavy tho, as you say 👍🏻
@michaelsturgeon5210
@michaelsturgeon5210 Год назад
@@joshdesj I switched all the components over to a ragley big al frame in the end as wiggle were doing them crazy cheap , suits me a lot better than the dave . I only use a hardtail for winter riding , usually ride a nukeproof reactor.
@joshdesj
@joshdesj Год назад
@@michaelsturgeon5210 love the Nukeproofs as well. Really cool bikes. Had a Commencal meta ht prior to the hello Dave… loved it but I always felt a little cramped on it.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience on it man!
@the_yesnt1358
@the_yesnt1358 Год назад
The stoic line up has been changed completely, new colours and specs
@matthewkramer8613
@matthewkramer8613 Год назад
A hard tail is a great option if your local terrain is not too rough. Full suspension is still worth the money with lockouts. Even cross country suspension specs is better overall than hardtail. For most folks and entry level riders they area great and still fairly capable. Riding a fully rigid mtb will make you better rider provided the terrain isn't crazy rough.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Interesting opinion! I’d say it’s the entry level rider who needs full suspension on technical terrain. A skilled rider can haul ass and (IMHO) have more fun while doing it on a hardtail. Check out this video to see me racing downhill on my hardtail and beating riders on full blown DH and enduro rigs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yJJLpIJMYYo.html
@matthewkramer8613
@matthewkramer8613 Год назад
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy not everyone may be as skilled as you. While I do agree with you, personally I have taking more interest in comfort over speed. I know back in the day rigid single speed would beat some riders with gears and suspension. At the end of the day it come down to having fun and choosing your weapon on choice :)
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Absolutely, glad we have so many options!
@eXaviar
@eXaviar Год назад
Orbea Laufey
@SSH01
@SSH01 Год назад
Hey,great helpful review thank you,can i ask if you had the on one wrekker which is kinda like the on one hello dave exept it's titanium maybe but what is a better lower weight wheelset to change to from the wtb st i30's,also it's saying that wheelset is 11 speed would getting a 12 speed wheeleset make it any faster maybe 😮
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Ya, lower weight wheels are definitely a good investment, as you’ll notice the decrease in rolling weight before anything else. Also, to switch from 11 to 12 speed you will need to get a new 12 Speed compatible hub or freehub body
@tally2312
@tally2312 Год назад
If you got a few extra bucks guerilla gravity pedalhead 500-1000 off depending on model
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Always wanted to try one! How do you like it?
@llongttower
@llongttower Год назад
Growlers actually dont come with clarks, they say it comes with clarks for growler 20 and 40 but neither come with clarks (atleast from many many people i know who have it and from wha i seen all over redddit and YT), my growler 20 came with shimano mt401 calipers and shimano mt4100 levers, honestly pretty cool. Love my growler!
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Good to know, thanks for sharing! Ya it can very quite a bit based on region and supply chain availability. Sounds like it's probably an upgrade though so no complaints there!
@willgrange2823
@willgrange2823 Год назад
surprised ragley didn’t make the cut got a marley and it’s awesome. got it cheap aswell for 765 quid
@TheRivalryDrifting
@TheRivalryDrifting Год назад
was gonna say cus the vitus is cheaper but its the same price off sale so kinda surprised to than as i hear the vitus frames are harsh and i hear the ragleys are compliant. i also got a marley was 48% a couple of weeks ago only been able to go on 2 rides but thing is sick
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Tons of good options out there, but I tried to pick a range that represented a wide variety of budgets and riders. I featured the Ragley Mmmbop in this video, check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OHY20bEKbs4.html
@TheChange-jd5zt
@TheChange-jd5zt Год назад
2023 Trek Roscoe 8❤
@user-jt9zw7qt5c
@user-jt9zw7qt5c Год назад
I'm not seeing the hello Dave link for the bike. Am I missing it? Thanks for the reviews. Want to purchase hello for my son. And Marin for me.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Nice, those are great options!! I sadly don’t partner with Planet X,the distributor for On-One. But if you go with the Marin I’d appreciate you purchasing it through the link there!
@shamsta21
@shamsta21 Год назад
Hi there, i currently have a trek slash 8 2016 which is an enduro 160mm travel bike (feel a bit overbiked) and i wanted something that would be better for local flow trails jumps and pump track. something that would also make xc trails more intresting. and be better at climbing im currently stuck between choosing the Ragley Marley 1.0 , canyon stoic 4 and the Nuke proof scout 275 comp as well as marin san quentin 3 i dont really need stable and fast id rather have something thats more playful and good at cornering. what do you think would be best as a 2nd bike? all them would be 27.5 for my frame size
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
If you’re looking for playfulness Id steer you towards the Marley, the geo on that things should make it super fun and agile!
@shamsta21
@shamsta21 Год назад
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy thanks so much for your response! , after looking at the geo of the vitus sentier 27 VRS doesn't that look more playful? main thing is, what bike would be better at doing steeper jumps?
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
The vitus has a pretty high seat tube, which can make it a bit trickier. But the steeper HTA and shorter reach will also make it a bit better feeling on the jumps. It’s a bit of a trade off for sure
@PeanutPearBear
@PeanutPearBear 10 месяцев назад
8:33 wait, the vitus sentier is a... xc bike? Maybe its just me but i thought it was an enduro hardtail? Cool video though for sure! ❤
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 10 месяцев назад
Thanks man! Maybe “trail” hardtail would be more appropriate, but the high seat tube, short reach and *relatively* steep headtube at 66.5 degrees is a lot more XC leaning than the other bikes in this video, in my opinion at least
@calvinkirchhoff971
@calvinkirchhoff971 Год назад
I gotta start a gofund for you to get the hello dave and to cure your scratchy throat voice😂
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Lol thanks man 😂
@kiethpederson7558
@kiethpederson7558 Год назад
The canyon though
@connorcampbell144
@connorcampbell144 Год назад
Kona Honzo ESD, Kona Honzo ST, Saracen Zenith LSL, Santa Cruz Chameleon
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
What a quiver!!
@renemeza6058
@renemeza6058 Год назад
I was wondering why you haven't reviewed any of the RSD middlechild builds. I've been considering a middlechild, but I'm not sure which build would be the best for the price.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
I’ve actually don’t a ton of videos on my Middlechild, check them out here: ru-vid.com/group/PLuHTEhoxOiC0OIstnarZZzmYVY2L9UCiz In terms of what build to get it all comes down to your budget. I built mine up from the frame with mostly used parts; probably put about $2,000 into the build (including the frame)
@Paul-py2lc
@Paul-py2lc Год назад
Don’t knock those tyres on the hello Dave, yeah they are heavy but I run them on my Planet X bike and they are grippy as hell👍
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Good to know, thanks!
@CasperRc81
@CasperRc81 Год назад
Let’s you know how much these main box name bikes price gouge us in parts spec. Seeing how much the Dave bike costs.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
I mean that thing is an insane deal; but ya you’re definitely paying for the name when you by from the big guys
@gungfuriceboy
@gungfuriceboy 5 месяцев назад
i'm 'new' to all these Hardtails.....would they also,..be Good to ride..on busy ..congested Big City's?
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 4 месяца назад
Not necessarily, their handling is optimized for steep, high speed riding. An XC bike would be better for in the city as it has a lot more agile geometry and more efficient pedaling
@gungfuriceboy
@gungfuriceboy 4 месяца назад
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy ..so what 'style' of Bike..would you guy's recommend...for more City riding..& the occasional 'Gravel' paths??
@bryanmiller5692
@bryanmiller5692 Год назад
Roscoe 8 👌👌👌👌
@KAMBO-pu9nn
@KAMBO-pu9nn Год назад
How about the Bizango Pro Carbon? $2,128.50 USD down to 1,547.27 USD!? Qrcycles has it on special. I went with the VRS due to the specs and postage was a killer
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Seems like a good deal of you’re looking for more of XC bike!
@michael61985
@michael61985 Год назад
I like my 2022 - 23 GT Avalanche Sport and its still under 1000 dollars
@joshuaallswang8016
@joshuaallswang8016 Год назад
Had the 2021 Avalanche Comp for awhile (same frame) bike was a beast, but had to up grade everything to make it that way. Put over a $1000 in parts. But Stock it’s beginner level at best especially the Sport model. But who cares! Enjoy your bike homie!💯
@cameronbarber3768
@cameronbarber3768 Год назад
That hello Dave is 1299 British pounds, that's $1600 roughly, so not the cheapest but still a great deal
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Math error 🤦‍♂️ Thanks for the catch!
@keithe8351
@keithe8351 11 месяцев назад
I'm brand new to the MTB world and ready to roll. I'm on budget under $1k and think I've narrowed down to Marin SQ1 and Polygon Xtrada 7. I'm 6' 3" and about 240lbs. Can you PLEASE help me make the right choice? If neither of those two, which bike do i pick?
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 11 месяцев назад
Those are two great bikes, and I actually compared both in this video! Hopefully that will help you differentiate which is best for you! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7tYajfbXCC0.html
@keithe8351
@keithe8351 11 месяцев назад
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy I've watched the video. Just figured I'd see what your opinion would be given my size. I feel like the XT7 just has so much more going for it besides HTA. And only 27.5 on SQ1. I'm ready to pull trigger on XT7 @ $900 bikesonline plus $25 discount
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 11 месяцев назад
@@keithe8351 they're both great bikes, depending on what your goal is. The Xtrada7 will be best for XC rides, where maintaining speed through tight terrain and up hills is important, where as the SQ1 caters more towards downhill speed and jumping, but won't be as nimble at slower speeds. If you go with the Xtrada7 from BikesOnline it would be a huge help to our channel if you purchase it using our affiliate link. You'll pay the same amount, but I'll earn a small commission: bikesonline-usa.sjv.io/5gaD6D
@keithe8351
@keithe8351 11 месяцев назад
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy I'll definitely use your link. The main thing I like about X7 over SQ1 is the thru axle instead of QR. I'd mainly be riding wooded trails but will find some trails with small jumps from time to time. I can still hit some small jumps with X7 right? And the X7 seems more "upgradable" no? Too foreign?
@mellissanash7517
@mellissanash7517 Год назад
you also missed all the Ragely bikes on sale at chain reaction for all under 1$400usd
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Tons of good options out there, but I tried to pick a range that represented a wide variety of budgets and riders. I featured the Ragley Mmmbop in this video, check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OHY20bEKbs4.html
@HonigMacher
@HonigMacher 3 месяца назад
Cannondale Habit 1
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 3 месяца назад
Hadn’t been released yet haha, but yes, if I remade this video today it’d likely be in there 👌
@HonigMacher
@HonigMacher 3 месяца назад
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy I LOVE IT!!! Habit, so amazing
@tonyhruzek4250
@tonyhruzek4250 Год назад
I wish Marin made a comparable 29er to the San Quintin.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
I set mine up as a mullet and loved it! Check out the video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XQJdif6jN7Q.html
@carlosalfonsolopezrodrigue7051
I'd tried a mullet growler. Don't worth the risk of doin that. The BB Height is too low with 29er. Mixed wheels just make it unastable
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Interesting, I’m surprised to hear that! It’s actually got the same BB drop as the San Quentin, which is a full 27.5 bike. Thanks for sharing your experience with it!
@carlosalfonsolopezrodrigue7051
Yup, the growler actually feels too low in stock configuration lol
@Zach_Routhier
@Zach_Routhier 9 месяцев назад
How does the Giant Fathom 1 compare to these?
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 9 месяцев назад
Great bike at a killer value! But it leans a bit towards the XC side of the spectrum, whereas the bikes in this video are designed for more aggressive, enduro style riding
@HajrhJsjcjus-oe5ek
@HajrhJsjcjus-oe5ek 10 месяцев назад
I like my on one 45650b
@Baksan_Dog1988
@Baksan_Dog1988 2 месяца назад
No Norco torrent line up??
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 2 месяца назад
Love the Torrent, but not under $2k. The Fluid HT isn’t the best value compared to the others on this list
@markhennings7207
@markhennings7207 11 месяцев назад
It went together easily in less than an hour. ru-vid.comUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 11 месяцев назад
Not sure, sorry!
@andrewsiasparks
@andrewsiasparks Год назад
Clarks are decent. The clouts are better than my tektro drako brake set.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Good to know!
@DavidSmith-xm1qd
@DavidSmith-xm1qd Год назад
It's a biased opinion but I'd pick my Ragley Mmmbop over the San Quentin
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Tons of good options out there, but I tried to pick a range that represented a wide variety of budgets and riders. I featured the Ragley Mmmbop in this video, check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OHY20bEKbs4.html
@byggloket2590
@byggloket2590 Год назад
isnt the nukeproof scout superior against these bikes?
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
The Scout is a super rad bike, and I’ve featured some of the build tiers on this channel. But the spec on the “Race” model isn’t great; no dropper post, Recon RL fork, etc.
@608Jaystone1982
@608Jaystone1982 Год назад
What about the salsa timberjack?
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Great bike, but sadly not under $2,000 USD. I featured it in this buyers guide though! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7iaF3D5JvGA.html
@608Jaystone1982
@608Jaystone1982 Год назад
I got my timberjack slx for $1700 that’s why I asked
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
That’s a steal, nice find! List price is $2,100
@userbosco
@userbosco 11 месяцев назад
Best HT under $5K.... LOL, you can buy two HTs easy for 5 large. I ride a Stache, but have to admit, so many great options in the $2k range today. New geo is enticing 😊
@johntabor2619
@johntabor2619 Год назад
Sub and like. Thanks. I have a video idea. Do a video of the best hard tails from the past 7 years or something. The is year marin. Then your last years top pick and so on.... :) thanks
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
That’d be dope! Thanks for the sub and the great idea!
@jameswilson2815
@jameswilson2815 6 месяцев назад
Nukeproof Scout is going for 900! How"s that for cheap.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 6 месяцев назад
Insane deal!!
@user-uk4gw6gp8b
@user-uk4gw6gp8b 6 месяцев назад
Hey my little jibs and tricks aren’t silly 😜😜
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 6 месяцев назад
Haha no they’re not, and if anyone tells you otherwise they’re liars! Jibs are life 🤘😂
@jameslines9794
@jameslines9794 Год назад
Calling 439mm chainstays long on a 29er bike is a bit exaggerated isnt it id say thats nice and short for a 29 back end
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Maybe on a full suspension bike, but 29” hardtails tend to be around 420-435. The vitus w/ 439 mm chainstays is the second longest on this list
@DavidBowie36
@DavidBowie36 Год назад
Instead get Bianchi nitron 9.4 carbon and change shifter to Shimano xt, brakes to Shimano xt for 2k eur.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
That’s great for XC, but very different than the bikes on this list, check out my XC buyers guide here! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sHy8xoi94nY.html
@lal2235
@lal2235 Год назад
I hate the pricing of the bikes, as Im Mexican living in Mexico, they actually are most expensive here than the currency conversion, and we wouldnt be able to buy in the US without proper import fees, taxes, and shipping. And the worst part is income differences, average salary per year, a manager alike, could be around 10 000 dollars here (I tend to earn more than that), most of the people earn so much less than that, and I think in USA average could be 40 to 50 thousands, anyways, is so uneven, buying a bike what represents to people here to people in the US, a whole diferent picture
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Ah bummer, sorry to hear that man!!
@Lamby1010
@Lamby1010 10 месяцев назад
In uk we are limited with bikes and colors , can’t anyone in USA adopt me ?
@robertpresti7775
@robertpresti7775 Год назад
where are you seeing the prices? one one hello dave is between $2300 and $2400 they're nowhere close to $1350
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Sale is sadly over 😕
@durrantmiller8810
@durrantmiller8810 Год назад
For those looking at the Virus Ive heard those WTB wheels are pretty weak and prone to faliure. Something to keep in mind.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Interesting, never had an issue with mine!
@adamf.8564
@adamf.8564 Год назад
What do you mean you don't have 1300 laying around? Paycheck to Paycheck? What's going on with people?
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Oh I have much more than that saved; emphasis on saved, not to be haphazardly thrown at a bike. If I spent like that then I probably would be living paycheck to paycheck lol, too many good bikes out there!
@stressballer
@stressballer 13 дней назад
The Vitus with the cable hanging under the BB - what's that all about? *facepalm*
@durrantmiller8810
@durrantmiller8810 Год назад
Literally the inky person I've ever seen complain about the seat tube on the Stoic. Sam Pilgrim seems to ride this bike and other bikes with much taller seat tubes with no problems
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
You must not watch many hardtail reviews than lol, it’s a pretty common complaint. Pilgrim’s a lot better than me lol, I need all the help from good geometry I can get!
@909butcher
@909butcher Год назад
That's in British pounds not Usd
@trickyrickymtb5622
@trickyrickymtb5622 8 месяцев назад
Schwabley 😂😂😂
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 7 месяцев назад
lol I’ve since learned 😂
@LCNismo
@LCNismo Год назад
Peasant priced bikes.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
That’s how I like em!
@DavidBowie36
@DavidBowie36 Год назад
For 2k you get carbon frame bike, not these heavy al bikes.
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
Why do you want a carbon bike?
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 9 месяцев назад
Trek roscoe 7 destroys these
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 8 месяцев назад
Maybe on XC trails lol
@w.c.skincare3951
@w.c.skincare3951 11 месяцев назад
Dropper Post on a Hardtail? You have got to be kidding me. Those guys have got everybody suckered into buying dropper posts!! What a Gimmick and they are taking it to the bank!! Now days most people wouldn't ride a hardtail on any trail that would be that difficult. The whole industry is brainwashed to think they need a dropper post on every mountain bike that is sold.
@teecee4459
@teecee4459 Год назад
You recommend the bike named after meth use??? Horrible marketing plan 😂
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy Год назад
And which bike is that?
@FonzoCapone
@FonzoCapone 4 месяца назад
What’s the difference between hardcore trail bike and xc trail bike (hardtail)
@ridingwithjoshandwendy
@ridingwithjoshandwendy 4 месяца назад
Biggest difference are the geometry and fork travel. XC bikes are designed to be the fastest possible climbers, whereas aggressive/hardcore hardtails have a larger priority on descending/jumping
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