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After the Hasbro Earnings call where they lost 1.5B. I really wanted to dive deeper into what exactly is happening and why things aren't working at Hasbro, WOTC and Magic The Gathering.
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@pandoranbias1622 3 месяца назад

WOTC going all-in on universes beyond is really disappointing. The original fantasy art was the most unique thing about MTG, and now its just turning into Weiss.

@SolarGamesllc 3 месяца назад

This

@hopperpeace 3 месяца назад

true

@AugusCrafting 3 месяца назад

People has lost interest in Magic as a game, and more like a colector hunt

@joeferreti9442 3 месяца назад

And WotC used to be very good with doing their own creative riff on pub culture themes which was way better than integrating foreign IPs.

@everythingmetal9400 3 месяца назад

@@joeferreti9442 yeah how can they go from creating such great sets like Lorwyn shadowmooor time spiral block and so many others from the mid to early 2000s and late 90s to making the grobage today.

@TheSushiandme 3 месяца назад

#1... too expensive for seal products and cards have no value....

@lilbasedboi 3 месяца назад

I’m glad that other magic players feel the same about universes beyond. I love magic for the magic lore and art not so much assassins creed crap

@skittles1736 3 месяца назад

Very true, its sooo confusing nowadays, i started playing circa ‘96 and MTG was so much simple and so much fun to play then.

@sarboo 3 месяца назад

I only came to mtg last year and I've already gone back to the earlier cards and a game that I can actually get my head around!

@Hangryman9038 3 месяца назад

The thing that makes me chuckle the most is the irony of what they've done to commander. Originally EDH (Elder Dragon Highlander, for the kids) was a side game created by either judges or players (i cant remember) to be a fun alternative to the sweaty style play of Standard and Modern to make use of old cards that weren't necessarily good in their run, but can be good in this one since it's a singleton format. Then WOTC got ahold of it and marketed the hell of it. And of course, to sell more cards for it, you gotta make em bigger and better every time. So that now it's no different than the other formats it was meant to be a break from.

@Beckola44 3 месяца назад

The Beyond Booster is another ripoff product like the Aftermath one. I don't care about Marvel. Wizards will probably try to get the DC Universe IP. Our group used to buy so many cases of Magic boxes. Now, we hardly buy anything. The new Ixalan Commander Decks were so cheap and are good. We paid $32.00 each. We will wait to buy some singles on the secondary market. Another big issue is the card quality is getting worse. Why pay these high prices for sealed boxes with bad card quality? I do not care about serialized cards. Remember, NOTHING IS SPECIAL ANYMORE. My oldest son and I started playing Magic back in 1994. Now, my two sons, friends, and I have drafts and play Commander at the kitchen table. We always have a great time. Thank you for the video Mark.

@ericjohnson6105 3 месяца назад

I have a feeling the DC IP could be used for a song and a dance. Much less costly than the Marvel IP. DC is another company that has no idea what it is doing.

@SnowCompanion 3 месяца назад

You can guarantee there will be a 1/1 Ironman card, 1/1 Cloud or 1/1 Tifa to bring all the gambling addicts so they can boost their numbers. Very sad they're taking the easy way out for cash instead of actually making a good game.

@Beckola44 3 месяца назад

@@SnowCompanion Wizards doesn't even follow the Magic Lore With Murders and Thunder. All they did was take some old art and added hats, trench coats, gun belts, and ridiculous Star Wars like laser guns on the characters. How sad! Wilds of Eldraine and the Lost Caverns of Ixalan are very good sets and so affordable. Its hard for players to enjoy and play with a set because a new one comes out one month later.

@Beckola44 3 месяца назад

@@ericjohnson6105 The Murders and Thunder sets do not even follow the Magic Lore. Wizards had some extra old art kicking around and put hats, trench coats, gun belts, and ridiculous Star Wars like laser guns on the characters. Who approves these idiotic ideas? Wilds of Eldraine and the new Ixalan sets are really good and so affordable and follow the Magic Lore.

@joeferreti9442 3 месяца назад

1. extremely high prices 2. way too many set releases per second 3. shitty Universes Beyond 4. card balancing, overly pushed cards, power creep 5. print quality issues 6. way too many and confusing products 7. horrible management by Hasbro 8. cut support and exploitation of LGSs

@dudono1744 3 месяца назад

So, basically the same issues as Yugioh.

@marcelofrmo 3 месяца назад

Pushed cards are the dumbest.

@TheEvolver311 3 месяца назад

@marcelofrmo players don't enjoy playing weak cards, they don't engage with the game when it is low power. 2019 Ixalan, Homelands, Masques Block, Dragon Maze....anytime WotC actually pulls back on power players hate it and rank those sets as all time worst consistently.

@w1-em4nq 3 месяца назад

@@TheEvolver311 i was around for Homelands and loved that set. i do love goofing off with wacky decks. Universes Beyond is trash and annoying me.

@TheNethertyp 2 месяца назад

9. lack of elegant card designs, complexity creep

@nerdobject5351 3 месяца назад

You hit the nail on the head. The card design just sucks with the Universes Beyond stuff. Cards have mile long text boxes and just don’t feel like magic cards anymore. There is also just no where to play. The incentives for constructed are gone. Capped with so many products you can’t keep track of. They will eventually wake up when other games like FnB and Sorcery eat away at them. They will be slow to respond like they did with Hearthstone but they will right the ship.

@galtem 3 месяца назад

home run man, all points. I've especially wondered why they've never really developed their IP... toys, shows, collectibles, more card sales, etc. It's like they don't trust their own stories they've created and made cards for. It's really weird and sad.

@Ornthemycelianth 3 месяца назад

started watching this video and then paused to talk to a few friends on discord, we literally had this exact conversation moments ago and I'm only 7 minutes into the video lol

@SolarGamesllc 3 месяца назад

Seems like the thing that is on everyone’s mind nowadays. How’s that MH3 eh?

@InfinateRadiant 3 месяца назад

I don’t even care about Marvel anymore since Disney just destroyed the brand. It’s so lame now.

@ilyafoskin 3 месяца назад

I think initially Universes Beyond was the idea of Hasbro business strategy guys. They’ve been doing it with their board games for a long time, stamping other brands on Cluedo and Monopoly over and over again. WotC were allowed to operative pretty independently until the late 2010s when their revenue started to become such a large percentage of Hasbro’s total revenue and once the Hasbro executives started paying attention to the Magic product line, they wanted WotC to implement their familiar brand crossover strategy because it’s the only trick the business guys have. They’re not creative people, they have one trick. Instead of creating a new board game, they put a Big Bang Theory skin on Cluedo. They don’t understand that Magic has an identity and it’s not a rules shell for any brand to get stamped on

@TheEvolver311 3 месяца назад

It really is a rule set that any IP could be attached to. Magics Lore is and always has been garbage. They had 30 years to get a significant amount of people to care and they couldn't.

@PensFan96 3 месяца назад

@@TheEvolver311 I think the point he is trying to make is that MTG has/had it's own identity. While yes, technically any IP works with Magic's game systems; the core fanbase whether they care about the story or not does for the most part like the "Magic" part of MTG. (Art, Style, Themes, Characters, Worlds, ect.) Like if you told Star Wars fans that all future Star Wars movies are included in the MCU and will have crossovers with Spiderman, Deadpool and Thanos. That would be weird and probably not recieved well even though there are some casual movie goers that wouldn't care. Like I don't HATE universes beyond as a concept but I don't like all the IPs that are chosen and that's weird for me because now I cant just like "Magic", I have to also like or at least partake in: Walking Dead, Dr Who, Warhammer, Fortnight, ect.

@ilyafoskin 3 месяца назад

@@PensFan96 Yes, I totally agree. The Star Wars example was especially appropriate. I should add that I wouldn't mind UB if it was treated like old silver border stuff, not legal in formats and effectively a novelty product meant for kitchen table play. But they made it legel to incentivise sales and only because it's legal in Modern and Commander, it creates this uncomfortable mixing of canon. I would suspect that most UB fans aren't dead set on their IP being played with Magic IP stuff anyway. As was said in the video, the new players buying these UB decks are dipping in for the novelty of their favourite IP and they don't necessarily want to mix it with normal Magic cards anyway because it ironically would dilute the purity of their favoured IP with the Magic IP they never cared about. When the Warhammer decks were released, most people I talked to at that pre-release said they were planning on using them as a fixed 4 player UB Commander cube type situation and didn't plan on adding non-Warhammer cards. It's anecdotal but most people I've seen using UB cards use them as pure UB decks or 98% pure Magic IP with a couple of unavoidable staples like The One Ring and Delighted Halfling. I've only seen one person mix IPs unabashedly in their decks.

@TheEvolver311 3 месяца назад

@PensFan96 Sure lots of players enjoy the aesthetic but not the actual IP. Wotac has tried for decades via books, comicbooks etc..to get a large segment of the playerbase to care but it has never worked, caring about lore has consistently been a fringe . I read the books and the comics and I don't care. I'd even argue that Magic doesn't and has never had a consistent aesthetic direction, it's shifted and changed. Like when I started playing in the 90's the art and themes were way darker like the Brothers War/phyrexian war story I remember being like oh who is this guy Urza? Oh he is immortal demi-god wizard Hitler and he is only the protagonist because he is trying to out Hitler Phyrexian Hitler, not so surprising to find literal neo-nazi allusions in early MtG art from that era I guess. Then we get PG Planeswalkers post mending and honestly if they didn't reuse the same ones year after year people probably wouldn't know who the F Jace is....the point is MtG isn't a new game trying its and old game that has been trying and failing for decades. And failing repeatedly. Honestly I'd say that modern MtG most players don't care that much and I know older players don't because again we as a community of players have demonstrated that we don't care by never caring all those times WotC tried to. If the story mattered all that much to people they would have complained about it unendingly when the mending happened and they literally redefined the entire premise if the game. But no that isn't what happened it was like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure switching from Harmon to Stands no buddy cared cause that aspect of the story isn't what was bringing in fans and literally completely changing the entire premise for how our heros resolve conflicts was changed etc...and people don't play the sets that are weak and underpowered just because of how drawn in they are by aesthetic. Like I said he is completely incorrect in that assessment and it just feels like grasping at straws for a reason to complain. Most if the appeal the art has is with players growing and affinity for specific cards that they played with alots art.

@ilyafoskin 3 месяца назад

@@TheEvolver311 I would say you’re right about a lot of what you say but only for the story segments. Yes, their written story is generally crap and only a small chunk of the player base pays attention to it especially in this new decade but the story and lore are still important to maintain because it’s the structure that informs their card design. Even if you never read their lore releases, every player still enjoys a game using cards which reflect a cohesive story where every event depicted on the cards has meaning. If they cut all narrative intent from their set design, the printed game would be a lot worse off. Each set would feel disjointed and random. So everyone benefits from the narrative and the lore existing even if it’s a benefit they don’t fully appreciate

@marcelofrmo 3 месяца назад

“Maybe it is not for me anymore” - exactly. The disappointment is now a constant, it is not even a surprise anymore.

@geek593 3 месяца назад

The Universes Beyond argument isn't necessarily limited to UB. I got into the game because the Phyrexians were extremely cool with lots of interesting story and an incredible aesthetic. But they killed them off entirely and now I'm expected to still be interested in releases like Karlov Manor which appeals to literally no one or Bloomburrow which exists to please that guy at your locals who only plays squirrels. Core Magic needs to actually become appealing and confident in its identity or else the cheap cash grabs will be all that's left.

@Bob86339 3 месяца назад

Love the fact that they're saying "universes beyond is not for everyone." I wonder what would happen if Rolex collaborated with Hello Kittie and said the same thing. Wizard's doesn't seem to understand that they’re seriously damaging their brand.

@SolarGamesllc 2 месяца назад

Sanrio Rolex would actually be popping. Think of the young generation Rolex. Buy one for dad and one for baby! It would be more like Rolex X Panda Express. WTF?

@ChadNarukami626 3 месяца назад

MTG already has an on going manga in Japan that's a romance novel about playing magic in the 90s

@wesjaguar 3 месяца назад

Destroy all Humanity?

@Cephalopopo Месяц назад

All of what you say here is absolutely 100% true!! Excellent list of problems, and very well thought out! Diluting their brand is the biggest one which no one actually gets. Killing competitive scene and product dilution will kill the game, but for now they can procrastinate and shift their demise since they started from a very high standard and their downfall will take long time. The rise of games like flesh and blood shows you are right.

@scorpion06 3 месяца назад

I agree with your approach, as a kid that started playing in 1997 in Portugal and reaching today, i transformed myself in a casual pauper, commander and mtg collector as i dont have a budget to buy every product, became disappointed with the actual products day by day, and can't keep up with all the variance and decision making that change day by day without a propper course. They don't make their mind and keep changing vision and strategy affecting all players and corrupting in some way the core of MTG story...

@tcsmagicbox 3 месяца назад

Too much product and products that are too expensive.

@Zaelkrie 3 месяца назад

Hasbro bought a whole film studio for billions and sold it for a couple million, they've been promising an MTG movie for decades and managed to f*ck up the success of Baldur's Gate 3 and moderately good DnD movie. Even if Wizards could get an Arcane or Edgerunners they will find some way to f*ck it up.

@backlashD 3 месяца назад

Pokemon does it best. There's one booster box, and all the additional product carry the same booster packs you would find in the box, plus bonus content. But it's all the same booster and they keep all the chase cards in that same single booster. There's no confusion.

@fawfulmark2 3 месяца назад

Pretty much. The Pokemon Model tends to be 1 Booster Box(usually $120+), 1 Elite Trainer Box($40-$60), Blister Pack Sets($15) and 2-3 Theme Boxes built around promo versions of cards from the sets($30). All having the same Booster pack series.

@jroq1235 3 месяца назад

Bringing up good points. I jumped back into MTG after two decades of not playing because LOTR looked really cool. I bought the decks, some packs, and am trying to acquire select singles. However, mixing these with my other cards feels off. I'm just planning on keeping them separate and having a playable LOTR commander POD for when my friends rotate around our game night choices. Will probably do the same with Final Fantasy to be honest.

@maxcudlitz2383 3 месяца назад

Agree on every point except getting mad at reprints. Reprints are always good- collectibles will stay collectible, but these cards need to be affordable to play with.

@NatexCarr 3 месяца назад

Believe it or not, a lot of the old, jaded, MTG grinders in my area have left to play Lorcana.

@SolarGamesllc 3 месяца назад

Believe!

@NateBullock-ow6on 3 месяца назад

Lord of the rings set and dungeons and dragons (art) is fine with me but not feeling welcome to the game and the stupid reprints is what pisses me off💯

@joeferreti9442 3 месяца назад

D&D was weird but is in parts almost acceptable. But LotR is a terrible fit into MTG.

@ericjohnson6105 3 месяца назад

It seems like their have no idea of how to merchandise anything other than cards. Which leads to the weirdest aspect of this is the chicken tenders (Jackie Chan holding head meme). Much rumored, TV series of the "main characters" of Magic, the planeswalkers, going on 17 years since their introduction in Lorwyn - nowhere to be seen. Boardgames was a half hearted attempt, when all they had to do to make sure that their audience would buy them was to include Magic cards with them. The whole universes beyond trying to snooker in other IP to make them Magic players, who knows how that is really turning out. You can say the LOTR was a success, but it is close to the same type of audience as Magic itself.

@refundreplay 3 месяца назад

There was also an Omega Chase rare that Tolkien nerds were chasing. I don't think LOTR is still selling as welll

@BensonMTG 3 месяца назад

Belated 新年快乐 🐲 great video, you get right to the point with 5 burning issues with the game.

@riddlermangaming3533 3 месяца назад

This is why tons of mtg players are going to new games like flesh and blood that honor the gathering and competitive scene

@everythingmetal9400 3 месяца назад

That's what me and one of my friends are doing slowly transitioning to fab

@riddlermangaming3533 3 месяца назад

Enjoy! If you have any questions reach out to the community, they love new players!@@everythingmetal9400

@stormcrowssb6412 2 месяца назад

Sorcery

@bryanprillaman1857 3 месяца назад

One comment on advertising. I don’t know if this is still true..but large GPs and PTs were considered advertising. If Magiccons and RCs are considered advertising..those are huge productions

@joeferreti9442 3 месяца назад

And it would have been so easy for WotC to make Universes Beyond be not a problem by simply printing those card sets with silver border and therefore making them not legal by default.

@xelic1996 3 месяца назад

But then almost nobody would have bought them.

@endlessorbaggins8223 3 месяца назад

Hey Mark, if my memory is right Profit was down to 36 oR 38% from 40-42% that I think they attributed to royalty cost of UB. And they sell us UB at higher price than a standard set. This makes me wonder... even if LOTR is best all time set on the revenue side, would it be possible that it was less profitable than MH2 in the end? MH2 is #2 best sellling set, but they didn't had royalty fees on it.

@dustin66896 3 месяца назад

That's a good point. LOVE me some MH2.

@brand0nist00nice 3 месяца назад

I've watched some of your videos and from what I have seen, I really like your takes. This was a good one. Thanks.

@user-if4rj3hr1j 3 месяца назад

For some reason, they're trying to run all the old school players off by discriminating against them In various ways. If your going to collect I would only buy R L

@SolarGamesllc 3 месяца назад

Yeah. I’m mostly RL now. But I still have sealed products.

@alejandroguerrieri2924 3 месяца назад

RL will be reprinted ....remember this. Now you have been warned.

@ddwkc 3 месяца назад

My main issue is the people at the top. They are those executives from executive class. They are so far removed from the product they make, the customer, the history of MTG as a whole. They just wanna pump some cheap ass product for a big price tag. They wanna introduce every single psychological tactic abusive marketing has on their sleeve. They hire the cheapest yes man workers as possible. The ink and cardboard quality are crappy and worse than Chinese proxies. They don't have a long term vision for MTG.

@drew8235 3 месяца назад

For me, leaning hardcore into Universes Beyond is a huge issue. It was fun as a side thing. Not so fun when it looks like they're gonna eventually be focusing only on that cuz 💰 And the not knowing what to buy is a huge issue. When I want to introduce people to the game I can't point them towards a product. There just aren't any starter products around.

@corporalkills 3 месяца назад

Other than Redditors, I have no idea who even likes universes beyond. Like you said, even new people come in for the UB set, then they leave once the well dries up. I severely hate Universes Beyond. It really hurts brand identity. They are also spending so much time and money casting the net wide trying to appeal to a female audience at the cost of their invested male audience.

@ricardoblikman2676 3 месяца назад

I dont understand why many people play commander and thus need 1 of each instead of 4 but the sales have increased. MTG is just like an F2P game now with a 4 weekly item shop.

@aka_rook 3 месяца назад

Sell everything, play pauper. Problem solved. That's what I did. Ker-ching.

@RetireandGo 3 месяца назад

this was a very good discussion thank you

@megeal3053 3 месяца назад

Is competitive play categorized under advertising?

@geekworthy7938 3 месяца назад

Avatar of Woe! Avatar of Woe! I hated when my friend got four of those!

@skurai 3 месяца назад

You’re right Mark. Spot on

@averageplaneswalker3461 3 месяца назад

Is anyone, besides myself, going to call out the reason we're here...."Commander" players have put us in this position. Most UB and SL releases are for "commander" not many other formats. Most cards printed in any set are meant for "commander" rather than the intended block they're printed. Go google the amount of Legendries we've got in the past 2yrs, just the past 2yrs. This isn't happening because of standard players, modern, pio, pauper, legacy, vintage, it's "commander" and if you can't come to terms and understand that then you're part of the problem. Stop buying every damn UB/SL that comes out!

@mindango4092 3 месяца назад

You have perfectly expressed the issues with MTG that I see. What do you think is the most likely future for the game? Will there be a revival some time in the future after Hasbro runs the game into the ground? Or will it continue as it is?

@adrianofgold 3 месяца назад

I stopped playing about. I guess 10 years ago I started in 96 I stopped for awhile. I started again and yeah I stopped about 10 years ago. I recently started to look into getting back into the game and saw all this stuff about Lord of the rings and stuff like that What has that got to do with Magic the gathering I don’t wanna play anything like that I’m sure it might be fun but I wanna play mono Black vampires or red green blood rush deck. I don’t wanna play something that isn’t within the magic universe it’s really put me off and I don’t know whether i actually wanna jump back into Magic now Because of this now

@SolarGamesllc 2 месяца назад

Right! WOTC has made the decision to bring in new players at the cost of the previous player base. I wonder if it makes sense long term.

@jmoney9494 3 месяца назад

I got brought in with the LoTR cards and wanted to play and learn so obviously I ended up on arena. Now I understand but I would rather play constructed but Arena itself is so greedy that it burnt me out before even constructing a deck in person. And I could see a commander problem with all the universe beyond with the players being able to undestand these really niche but powerful mechanics they have

@jmoney9494 3 месяца назад

And arena with its matchmaking really hurts people from understanding how to build a deck. You make a good deck and it realizes so it gives "opponents' the perfect counters so you modify the deck until it doesn't resemble anything any more. Very discouraging for new players

@magusofthebargain 3 месяца назад

Great video! yes! let us know how you would run our company. Our current president has to read a wikipedia article in order to know what this Magic the Gathering Deckmaster cardgame is, and our CEO only cares about whether people recognize him at cocktail parties. Please make a video as your application for one of these two positions that should be open soon.

@SolarGamesllc 3 месяца назад

This guy gets it

@mr.nakamura9088 3 месяца назад

I really hope a WOTC executive/major stakeholder finds this video and at least consider the points you are making. Bringing in these different IP's into MTG has costed WOTC hundreds of dollars I would have normally spent on some of these newer sets. The new cards might be powerful to play but I don't want to see Robert Downey Jr. Ironman when I'm playing a hard magic system fantasy card game.

@SolarGamesllc 3 месяца назад

My fees are 2x Alpha Black Lotus/hr.

@east-wj8xq 3 месяца назад

I think the beyond booster is suppose to be like the aftermath booster but specifically for universes beyond only. Either way releasing all 4 of the next set this early for preorder is concerning. not sure why there are 2 types of the same commanders each for modern horizons.

@toddpacker1015 3 месяца назад

Everyone is a try hard and there is no escape. There is little fun to be had nowadays that's why I'm checking out of Magic

@SnowCompanion 3 месяца назад

It's unfortunate that the only cool set for standard this year seems like Bloomburrow, and that's all the way in Q3. These new standard sets get way too gimmicky where it only works in limited. Draft feels fun for me right now, but outside of that the mechanics are clunky and underpowered. A lot of it is definitely not doing the rotation before extending it another year. Flavorwise, it just feels like they're leaning too hard on a few characters (like who really cares about kellen lmao) and the theme for the set is not pervasive enough. MKM does not feel like a set about a mystery murder at all. Not only do they reveal the killer outright, but most of the cards are just too goofy for the setting. Only the detectives theme feels like it's touching the theme and everything else is just tangential. You can guarantee there will be a 1/1 Ironman card, 1/1 Cloud or 1/1 Tifa to bring all the gambling addicts so they can boost their numbers. Very sad they're taking the easy way out for cash instead of actually making a good game.

@deadstar1756 9 дней назад

The statement about water was absolutely hilarious

@hearmth6618 3 месяца назад

2:36 My stance on Beyond Boosters: Where are the cards? 😶

@SmuggyOcelot 3 месяца назад

I think current Magic does a great job of making me look at other card games and wonder… *I wish we got it that good* I started around 2015 and in comparison from then to now, it’s such a drastic change. New ages of Magic happen, sure… but in comparison to the flagstones of when people have quit, this is completely different than Urza’s Block or the Mirrodin/Kamigawa blocks I feel like something huge has to happen to course correct, or just die outright I’ve actually had feelings where I wish Magic would just die so I don’t have to watch a game that used to mean so much to me crawl on broken legs also the issue with this late stage capitalism move is that there is no infinite money glitch, even if Hasbro thinks otherwise

@SolarGamesllc 2 месяца назад

Yeah. Robbing Peter to pay Paul doesn’t work.

@PensFan96 3 месяца назад

How do you feel about Real Life people as Magic cards like Leo Davinci in the Assasins Creed set? I kinda feel like this is the line for me.

@substratiC 3 месяца назад

wow that kamigawa neon dynasty trailer had almost 5 mil views. I would love a more old school anime for the vintage sets, a bit like pirates of dark water but with the Weatherlight crew instead, but I don't think it will happen.

@megeal3053 3 месяца назад

The emphasis in the word "viscera" is on the first syllable

@aeb814 3 месяца назад

Even my friends who actually like Universes Beyond say Marvel is where they draw the line. Eff that.

@shikarymtg Месяц назад

I don't really get the excitement discourse about opening packs... I don't buy packs. I never have, except for a few when I was a kid. None of my friends ever have. We still play mtg to this day and we started with 4th edition. If I could get cards only by opening packs I would have quit a long time ago... I don't really like gambling with my money. If what you are saying is that pack opening creates a sort of addiction similar to gambling, you might be right, but I would hesitate to present it as a good thing. imho the real issue is that the game is not fun outside of commander. As I was watching this I played 7 games on arena. 2 endend on turn 3 and 4 with my opponents not having lands, 1 I lost without doing much, 1 I won with a combo on turn 4, 2 finished on turn 4 with me having too much advantage for the opponent to recover... was that fun? maybe 1 match out of 7 was

@gorganiangranola 3 месяца назад

Well it's just a bummer for its fanbase. Although there's probably a lot to enjoy still it's just too estranging. I was into Magic for a while but figured out it wasn't the game for me, I branched out to a game that clicked incredibly well and since then I noticed that there's sooo many good TCGs out there that it's completely unfathomable to me why so many people prohibit themselves from acknowledging that the best game in the world might not actually be that these days. The game systen can be fun of course but man 30 years into TCG design don't you think other games were able to figure out how to grant you an incredible experience? Well spoiler alert they did. You can play One Piece, Flesh and Blood, soon Altered, even Sorcery and what do I know else. All of them are incredible games as well, I'm just so surprised how much patience the average Magicfan has to get disappointed over and over.

@TheDarkElder 3 месяца назад

There would be a way if Magic would not be crippled so badly by Hasbro. The way I see it, Hasbro requires more money coming in and other divisions are failing to do so. That leads to Magic (and D&D to a smaller degree) having to make the money by itself. The way I suggest would be: Scrap all the dumb product lines, drastically simplify: 1 Box of boosters for the players (call it draft or play) at a reasonable price, like $80. With MSRP. And 1 Box for collectors, say at $200 for all the fancy stuff. No more commander sets and cards for each release, do 1 set of commander only per year with good reprints and some new cards in each deck, call it $40 or even $100 if it contains appropriate value. Nobody, no player, no collector, no store wants to have all the different versions, art styles, foil (mis)treatment and the other bs they came up with since "Project booster fun" - remove all of it, print playable and readable cards that feel like Magic, not "we just do crossovers with anyone who agrees to have cards with our logo on the backside". There is no organic growth anymore, no innovation other than "look at all the shiny stuff we produce" - Magic truly lost its heart and brain and now just shambles along, uncertain if it will crumble soon or get a fresh body to walk on its own legs. BTW: I vote for your idea-video, Mark, sounds good.

@lanmarknetworking3034 3 месяца назад

This is freaking concise bro. Subbed. 1- Moved Away from Fantasy 2- Moves TO Commander These things create players with low to NO cost of entry. Players who dont have to make an investment to play will walk away alot faster than someone entrenched.

@Logical4Order 17 дней назад

I respect the honesty bro. Earned my sub

@lazydesmond8240 3 месяца назад

I play Yu-Gi-Oh, but checked out your video to wonder what's happening there in magic land For you guys it's the product, for yugioh the actual game itself is more the problem. Yugioh has gotten so absurd it will immediately turn any casual player away from the game, and it will take you a minimum of a month of playing every day to learn even the most basic meta strategies That being said, while a lot of Konami's products are lackluster, I really can't complain about what the company is putting out. The 25th anniversary stuff is pretty sweet

@TaKtiX1000 21 день назад

I get what youre saying about the universes beyond sets. Theyre losing their own identity

@WladcaPodziemia 2 месяца назад

I wanna play "magic", but apparently I will be playing "western" soon.

@nopedefnope9924 3 месяца назад

Bc when there’s nothing inbetween the revolving door on a creative team and the investors -a gypsy flea market of skus makes perfect sense.

@PatriceBoivin 3 месяца назад

I agree that people like discovering new cards... Your comment reminded me of the Star Trek card game, for me it was about collecting the cards and staring at the artwork more than playing the game. I don't remember playing the game a single time. I doubt that Tolkien fans who bought MTG cards last year actually played Magic much if at all.

@b.o.4492 3 месяца назад

Tolkien fans like myself when we saw what they did to the IP didn’t buy a single card/pack/box.

@SuperDuperHappyTime 3 месяца назад

Correct. LotR fans may have bought the product. Tolkien fans spat on the product.

@b.o.4492 3 месяца назад

@@SuperDuperHappyTime love that you described it that way. Spot on.

@mryoso31 3 месяца назад

Specially, most of this products are targeted at the EDH community. Just recently, MH3 has been announced and that product includes EDH precons. Just horrible, imagine a product for Modern but some cards printed will not be modern legal?! Atrocious. Universes beyond is a total abomination for MTG and also making some "UN" cards legal. Wat the actual F.

@KyleTremblayTitularKtrey 3 месяца назад

Id rather wotc just made a game called universes beyond and made a couple rules fixes but essentially had a magic clone and then put all the ips there. Itd be pretty cool

@CrouchingscarabflyingJ 23 дня назад

Nah man universes beyond is the reason my entire play group including myself started playing

@Seority 3 месяца назад

Most players want MTG to cater to commander, competitive paper and Arena, respectively. While not impossible, it would be a struggle for even a great company to pull off (do those even exist anymore?) So, assuming from what we know, Wotc half-asses between commander and Arena while completely forgetting the founding formats of this game. Years ago, (when they still focused on Standard, Modern, etc.) they put out a few commander sets and that was all. That feels like the golden time for MTG. Commander was *about* playing an odd assortment of cards, and it's lost this charm now being the staple. But when the biggest wrench (called Arena) got thrown in, now they just want nothing more than profits. _N O T H I N G ._

@thedanath 3 месяца назад

Im commenting before i watch the video but if its not #1 Too many products a year #2 Products Too expensive #3 card quality sucks and dunno what 4 and 5 would be, but 1-3 should be enough for people to complain to Hasbro that they need to change tactics or they will start loosing even more people buying product.

@Kultactivities 17 дней назад

This video perfectly describes how I feel. I played digital a lot, and then decided to finally start buying product about 7 months ago. I got really into playing only modern and standard, but I found my self getting annoyed with my community for magic where I live due to the fact that THEY ONLY WANT TO PLAY COMMANDER. Listen, I don’t like commander, I like the more competitive side of modern and standard, even on digital I only play historic and standard. There’s barely anyone that shows up for modern nights at my LGS’s, and it’s sad. I’ve started feeling like maybe it was a mistake to get into magic seeing that this game is/has changed into something else, and simply doesn’t care for its own competitive side.

@Kultactivities 17 дней назад

Also with what you said for not know what product to buy, I truly feel like that. I’ve bought some play booster boxes, but ultimately I just buy singles for the decks I want. Right now I’m not sure if I buy the modern horizons 3 product because uh… why the hell are there commander cards in it…

@SolarGamesllc 13 дней назад

If you want a competitive constructed game that is similar to Magic but isn’t infested by commander only cards give grand archive a try. The game play is Very good.

@aeb814 3 месяца назад

Great video bro.

@lanmarknetworking3034 3 месяца назад

Having the top 2 institutional investors in Hasbro be Blackrock and Vanguard doesn't help...

@mfdoom1898 3 месяца назад

All WOTC needs is a draft box(the list slot is lame AF), a collector box, commander deck set, pre release kit, and a bundle/fatpack. Anything more than that is "beyond" stupid

@lomalindasmogcheck1 3 месяца назад

Atm we're in a teeter-tooter. I'm a commander junkie. Wotc is relying heavy on a fickle format and playerbase. Mtg is changing too quickly and won't ever go back...disenfranchisement is outpacing the dangling carrots.

@j.m.3600 3 месяца назад

I’m simply not interest in magic anymore. I can’t imagine modern horizons 3 will change that. Mh1 was very exciting, but by MH3, I know my deck will just rotate during MH4 at this point. DROPPED

@KrispyLegend69 2 месяца назад

WotC needs to take universes beyond and end it. I like some of it, but I have the same sentiment about the rest of it. At what point does Magic's lore disappear and becomes part of a bygone age.

@refundreplay 3 месяца назад

I know a few people who bought some Warhammer decks to learn magic, and they still play. They don't buy anything else, but they love those decks.

@djkatsuo 3 месяца назад

The only reason for beyond boosters is to get people to buy packs for modern and commander without having to buy collector boosters. Calling them play would be confusing cause it’s not legal in standard. If they called it modern booster. Made it 12-14 cards and it would have been fine IMO

@ryanfrieden4450 3 месяца назад

Greed. Greed is the problem.

@christopherk7920 3 месяца назад

to all this confusion MTG is creating, my reaction is like the white "huh" cat !!

@WladcaPodziemia 2 месяца назад

Other card games like Dragonball, One Piece, Digimon, etc (so those new and functional games) are somehow doing great with one kind of boosters and funny enough, much more affordable prices. For new set of any of those games I can buy one thing and I know it is the right one. For MTG and with how usless many cards are - it is just better to buy singles.

@upStomp 3 месяца назад

I don't think Hasbro cares about pulling in new players to traditional Magic products with the UB releases. As long as they make a profit in-and-of themselves, any players that end up crossing over are just a bonus.

@endlessorbaggins8223 3 месяца назад

LOTR best selling set of all time (Made more than 200 million in 6 months)... MTG last year, year over year was flat. Ranica ramastered and Karlov Manor sales looks really meh.... Where are those new players from LOTR? Your thoughts on UB set Mark where the same as mine. People are in for an IP they are fan of and they don't care at all for other IPs. And I sense that only a small portion of the players are excited to the idea of fighting Iron Man against Gandalf. The majority are not excited at the idea of MTG becoming a heterogeneous mix of hundreds of IP in their decks as well as on the table. Not just a mix of characters but Fantasy mixed with strong Sci-fi (Star Trek, Dune, Star Wars) and mixed with modern/historical elements (cars, jets, skyscrappers, Leonardo DaVinci, Cleopatra, etc). Well would not be surpised at one point we get Trump and Obama cards. For many, playing a game is a way to get away for a moment of the stress, the reality, political matters, etc. MTG had a well establiched identity that felt magical and that you could immerse in. That identity is being eclipsed and for me... the immersion is no longer there. I would even say that MTG feels more like and ad to other IPs now than it feels Magic. And when I see players reaction and hype towards Blumborrow, this makes me beleive that this is the kind of creative that MTG players love commonly. I would not be surprised that Blumborrow sell way better than Assasin's Creed.

@fawfulmark2 3 месяца назад

To be fair, Duel Masters initially was gonna be a Manga/Anime designed to promote MtG but when the chapters went on WotC and TakaraTOMY decided to make it become it's own thing. And they even still throw MtG shoutouts too, like an episode of Duel Masters KING that had Emrakul herself turn up as a summon once.

@SnowCompanion 3 месяца назад

I love duel masters so much. The anime was hilarious, the games were amazing (loved the gba and ps2 games). Sucks they nuked the game for the Western audience and tried that disgusting Kaijudo Showdown reboot with that ugly cartoon. I heard that Duel Masters is like top 5 in Japan.

@MTGUnpacked 3 месяца назад

No wonder there are so many TCGs doing so well these days! Nothing will change as long as the money keeps pouring in🤷‍♂️

@MrRuff-cc3lg 3 месяца назад

Yep, they are diluting their brand for new players who don’t care about Magic and all in the name of short term profits

@junglerumbler6917 3 месяца назад

If universes beyond crap actually brought in new players, then explain why they’re expecting a down year? Lol

@hopperpeace 3 месяца назад

since mh3 is 400 a display of pbs it´s over for me

@ladiesman2048 3 месяца назад

Commander killed Magic

@bennefib 3 месяца назад

The fact that we haven't got harry potter / WoW / diablo but we're getting ASSASSINS CREED says it all, companies since the pandemic have been pulling from the surface level nerd culture meta for revenue instead of doubling down on core nerd culture and wotc is no different, its just odd because of how easily they could be making money easier if they streamlined and gave us actual magic stuff

@sethvoNhaNdorf 3 месяца назад

I wonder if Hasbro will fail so badly, they need to sell off Magic. Then we can buy it and make it great again!

@galkanftw 3 месяца назад

I want one thing a game everyone pays ONE price.I love th Final Fantasy universe but I am not spending any money on a tcg unless it is one price across th board fair for all.

@MarsCarf 3 месяца назад

Magic is basically paper Fortnite now

@Jojo-be3cf Месяц назад

How so? Fortnite is free and mostly fun.

@challengerex6320 3 месяца назад

I think all his crap Wizards has been doing has been under the viel of innovation which i give them props for the attemps. Some stuff has worked some hasnt. You hit the nail in the head with the game being too big and now its attemping to cater to everyone. They have been succesfu in bringing in new people and now they have to cater to them, Magic was an underground game for nerds, with heavy ties to DnD. It is far removed from that today which is almost like a luxury hobby. Some of these effen products costs much as video games for goodness sake.

@deadstar1756 9 дней назад

They're literally marketing for other better games at this point games people would rather play than magic

@Yinyanyeow 3 месяца назад

... So... no more normal deck building is gone. And to think that there's only one/two ways to play Yu-Gi-Oh or Pokémon. So fail. Then again, how many ways can the game be played?