Kinda weird that so many criticisms were centered around stingray spam or lack of checkpoints for the maps when those wouldn’t be an issue if they returned in s3
I really want more Unique stages from splatoon 2 back. I nearly enjoyed every stage from splatoon 2 but in splatoon 3 every stage is so similar to each other 😢
Arowana sucks competively, but honestly the alleyways, height scaling and inkable walls around mid made it really fun for me in a casual environment. Years ago, my friends would do hide and seek or specific weapon face offs on Arowana because it was just so interesting and fun to play on. Splatoon 3 really has forgotten how to make fun casual stages
I think he needs to re-evaluate because everyone complains the stages have no alternate routes or even places to hide. So something like Arrowana Mall or Depot would be better than Barnacle and Dime or Mincemeat
however bad these maps were, i just really want to give up on splatoon 3 just to play those again because omfg splatoon 3 is so incredibly worse those maps are wonderful in comparison (and wtf are you talking about arowana and kelp some were good like what the actual fuck are you talking about)
Ngl I personally feel like Goby and shellendorf are the most likely to return as they fit splatoon 3's map design. Like goby has the left spawn drop and rail close to mid, while the right side is a straight vertical line which ends up in mid. Shellendorf is the opposite with the left spawn side being a long vertical line into mid while the right is a drop at the entrance to mid. I GENUINELY don't think any of the splatoon 1 maps that were brought into splatoon 2 will be brought back cause they can't be unfair and bring stuff like moray/arrowana etc for a third time while maps like bluefin haven't even had a second appearance.
You know the sad part about all these stages? They’re all better than most splatoon 3 stages. And they were more fun than splatoon 3 original stages and the majority of the revamped splatoon 1 stages (Mahi and hammerhead)
Splatoon 3 Stages are a trainwreck and one of the main reasons why the game isn't fun to me while the other 2 games were. I'm very unhappy with the direction the series is going to in general.
@@squidkid419 Too true. It has come to the point where I really don't want to play any of the S3 maps at all because they are not fun to me. As it has been said in the video, they tend to mostly fall in the same fundamental layout and they don't make use of any of the games' mechanics at all. That being said, they also feel like they are way too small while being too open simultanously which makes them feel too restrictive and too unrestrictive at the same time, if that makes sense. Like you can't strategize (according to the map) at all because we've gotten to the point that shooting at everything that moves has become the sole way of winning. It's the worst at Mahi-Mahi where they literally open the spawn area when the battle is over. Or at Scorch Gorge where the only way out of the spawn area is going right into the center of the map. Or at Undertow where the only real side flank (the elevated platform) can not only be easily reached by a player on the other platform, but also has the player easily getting attacked from behind due to the massive blind spots where he can't see or hit the enemies. Map Design is certainly not the only issue, I'm not going to lie, the balancing, for example, is still a trainwreck to the point where even generally good weapons become unuseable due to the horrendous set designs and the overall uncompensable weakness of certain specials where their usage becomes more of a sabotage than help (Ink Vac), but I'm gonna be honest: If they released a patch that deleted every single original Splatoon 3 stage I'd be much more tolerant of that. As of now, I have next to no fun with the game and my frustration with it has reached the point where I'm honestly thinking of selling it, because what in JYP's Fish Tank is Nintendo doing here?!
I think a lot of y’all’s problems seem to come from how busted Stingray was. I think the game design is a little bit healthier at the moment, I’d like to see Kelp some and maybe goby
I think every map should return to Splatoon 3. Because at the end of the day, each map is someone’s favorite and we’d get so much more map design variety than just Tetris pieces. Saltspray Rig? Bring it back! It was casual newbie fun back in the day! Kelp Dome? Same thing! Moray Towers? The new squid surge mechanic is literally perfect for that map! I just want the old map designs back because I don’t want to get infinitely spawn camped on these Tetris maps any more… I’ll probably still get spawn camped but at least it’ll be on the good ol reliable stages.
All these maps are great. Genuinely. These maps have better design than Splatoon 3 maps, and if it means getting less of the new maps, I want them in. I also disliked how you were considering the splatoon 2 meta for each map, considering that if they do return, The game will NOT come down to special spam.
You know Splatoon 3's maps are pretty bad if they make me miss freaking Kelp Dome. Say what you will about how bad it was, but at least it has flank routes, something the Splat3's map designers are allergic to.
I actually really liked playing moray towers in splatoon 2. I played vanilla Octobrush and the sides of mid and that route where you could climb up a wall to flank the opponents high ground were so fun to hide behind and use for flanks and cover. It allowed my movement on Octobrush to be super difficult to deal with and made it so much fun. Inkjet was also super fun on this stage because of the flank routes and elevations giving inkjet a lot of advantages. I find it funny that the super high slopes were supposed to be the main gimmick of this stage but the middle was the part that made it so special for brush players like me.
why not showcase the maps as they were in Splatoon 1? in Splatoon 1 all these maps were amazing! Kraken allowed you to push if there was someone outranging you, the multyple flanking routes made the enemy have to be on high alert at all times and the best sniping points made you incredibly vulnerable camp triggerfish was amazing if you used beakons and so was moray towers
love ya gus but idk how you could make this a video. literally ANYTHING would be a massive improvement yes, even shellendorf with its troll-as-hell ranked layouts the fact that ray was mentioned like four times in this vid says a lot about how much better they'd be by default i think
around march or so i'd often think to myself "huh i wonder what the least remarkable map from splatoon 1/2 is. humpback? yeah humpback" and lo and behold genuinely top 5 maps overall in s3 and it's not even close how far below it most of the originals are
Honestly, even as bad as some of Splatoon 3's maps can be, especially in some map/modes, I'd rather play most of them over the maps here (Goby is a guilty pleasure though, about the same spot Undertow is in my mind) Mincemeat is still impressively worse than all of the stages here though
@@GUSplatoon Honestly a solid guilty pleasure, even in 2 with Sting Rays it has its moments. Also the goofy zones layout in Splatoon 1 I will never forget haha
Definitely agree with Arowana mall, i HATED this map with passion, it was 1 of those very few maps i just always struggled on to the point that if it was in the rotation i refused to play...so i really REALLY hope it won't return if it does...i will be sad :( BUT i love Goby Arena though...i just had alot of fun on it and very good performances so i would love to see this 1 return :)
I want Goby Arena to return but with some changes to the ground and maybe add some parkour routes, it has got to be the closest a bad map is to greatness.
I am an Arowana Mall stan, so in the words of Colress from Pokemon Black 2/White 2, I DISAGREE. I'd argue, it's more simpler design gives it a higher chance to return, since 3 loves those hallway and Tetris maps. Edit: The lack of Sting-Ray in 3 also helps it be more fun too.
Imagine this, only some maps are on anarchy battle. And instead of just turf war it’s called “Regular battles” and you can do any of the 5 modes at anytime, just not competitive with the grades and stuff.
I actually really like Goby, but I understand your problems with it. I personally would swap it out for Moray since that is, in my opinion, the worst Splatoon map of all time. I hated playing it and back in two and if it was one of the maps in the ranked rotation I'd refuse to play. Other than that, I agree with your list.
I had to think about it but personally I want triggerfish gone. Its a nice map yeah if you arent playing tower control or rainmaker. That honestly feels like a death sentence. Dont get me wrong tower control on that is fun but its also rage fuel. Like you gotta be so careful and its like extremely extremely chaotic like you’re honestly just shooting blindly.
Lots of people want moray towers but they returned that stupid humpback pump track they made walleye warehouse and many other Splatoon 1 and 2 stages returning
I always hated walleye warehouse since splatoon 1 and i was so deseapointed to see it return has the first old map. Kinda feel the same for kelp dome after always having it on rotation in S2. I like the others, especially the themes.
I may be weird for this but i kinda love tower trigger fish. It's a constant up hill battle just to exist on tower and i just have a fun time operating around those constraints.
And I also feel like Kelp Dome just needs a bunch of small changes to the objectives themselves, maybe make it a two zone stage, or alter the block in the center to surround a zone rather than sit inside. Tc and RM are easy fixes, just change the ways you can push and the direction of the tower, and clams just has to remove that awful spot in mid
The fact that 2 Splatoon 2 maps were chosen when all 5 should have been Splatoon 1 maps screams of bias The worst Goby Arena game is better than the worst Saltspray Rigs game
I can guarantee the first three aren't coming back. Goby Arena and Devon Museum though likely will return since they were only in one previous game. Notice no maps that were already in both of the previous games have returned.
I just played Splatoon 2 Turf War battles again recently and I loved Walleye Warehouse 😅 Blackbelly Skatepark has always been my favorite (because I haven’t play a lot of different maps in it, so most are still new to me), but Walleye Warehouse overtook it easily. I like all the side paths you can take and strategically slip by enemies. I believe I liked Starfish Mainstage too, it had little sneaky corners in it. Edit: I like Kelp Dome too. The lay-out is confusing, which I oddly like. I have no clue on how exactly to get to mid on this one, I probably wandered into mid by accident once. I don’t remember Shellendorf much, but I think I thought it was okay. Absolutely hated Camp Triggerfish tho.
@@GUSplatoon when I got back into splatoon last year that stage felt awful to play on lol, I only did zones and clams tho I haven't tried tc and rm in years
@@Teds3Clams Pit is unique in that it had the opposite problem of Solo Queue Clam Blitz matches in S2 where it was way too easy sneak in power clams due to the inkrail so you would often get swept if you weren't playing exceptionally well with defence or being the one who sneaks in all the power clams rather than the usual stalemate, though you could argue that's a good thing depending on how you view it. Regardless the changes to the mode in S3 made clams a lot less stally on any non-S2 map (besides Mincemeat ofc) so Pit will feel less out of place in that mode for Solo Queue.
Honestly I would seeing moray towers coming just to see that stuff I can get away with with zipcaster on that map. Hell I would love to see a challenge mode with either too many zipcasters or a perma zipcaster challege just like in splatoon 3 story mode. Just to see to absolute chaos of people either getting sick kills or falling off the map.
