+Tony B stick with the rows bro. Arnold never did face pulls. Also chins hit rear delts, low and high rows hit delts, reverse flies... all of them done with good form hit rear delt far better than face pulls and saves you looking weird in the gym. The BIGGEST mistakes dudes make is using too much weight for such a small muscle group. I rofl when I see guys doing shrugs with 100lbs weights for bigger traps... dudes can't even use those to bench! It's safe to say you use far more muscle doing a bench than shrugs so how can you shrug more than you can bench? Easy answer, you can't!
And Elliot Hulse. If you have never heard of him, look him up rn. Watch his Yo, Elliot! videos from like 2008-2013. He has so much knowledge amazing philosophy it sometimes blows my mind. He is actually the only person who i have found that actually knows what muscular imbalance is caused by.
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Only 3 exercises are needed for shoulders, OHP, Facepulls and finally cable lateral raise. OHP will work all 3 heads, while Facepulls will work lateral, posterior and finally cable lateral raise will focus on the lateral head. Cables over dumbbells because first of all you can't use momentum and secondly cables provide resistance throughout the ROM, as in gravity is not a factor compared to dumbbells.
True, but you can end up with a plateau quite quickly if you only do those exercises. Besides, everyone has different skeletal structure and so on, meaning that the movements you mentioned are not ideal for everyone :)
Martin Ora if you plateau with the basics such as OHP and face pulls, there is then something wrong with your workout program, these are the basic staples as for strength, size, rehabilitation and keeping a healthy posture.
What I meant is that if you always do the same exact movements, you're going to end up with a plateau. You need a little bit of variety even though those are some of the best exercises for shoulders :)
Martin Ora Uhm.. no you're not. It is idiotic to suggest that you need to "switch exercises" to avoid plateaus. Avoiding plateaus is just a matter of your programming. You do not "need" any variety. Those 3 would be all that's needed for any goal you have. You can add some variety if you want though
Awesome tips. I see gym members making those mistakes all the time. I'm glad I did my research on the dos and donts of lifting. Yet I'm always looking for ways to improve. I truly appreciate your videos. You guys are funny yet informative.
I have a banged up shoulder. Not from any of those mistakes but the video is a great reminder about form and inspires me towards better shoulder days. Thanks.
I've been doing boxing training for a few weeks now and shoulders are a big thing in that. My coach keeps my form correct but this is all great advice. Thanks dudes :)
hey buff dudes!!!! what about traps? i love your videos guys. i have been following for a few years now honestly since the beginning and i cant get enough. when ever i am lost in the gym i always just get on your channel for inspiration. keep it up dudes.
wow man thanks for the tips, i did not realize how much i was working the anterior muslces cuz i always do dips, bench and overhead press but not too much of the lateral raises and face pulls . thx for saving my posture.
Thank you! Love your channel. Getting into lifting heavy and it's awesome. Your channel has been a great resource for me. I will never go back to hours of cardio now that I know that lifting makes me feel like a ninja.
Buff dudes! Your videos are great! I started watching them back in February when I decided to change my lifestyle and set a goal to lose 100 pounds. I'm now heading towards 70 pounds lost and I wanted to say thanks for all the great tips! Keep up the excellent work!
Military Press (overall development), super wide grip upright rows (compound movement for lateral head development), and face pulls (posterior head development) is all you need, I dont even do frontal raises, I hit the anterior head hard performing inclined bench on my chest days. If you notice, all those exercises are compound, but you can always throw some lateral raises and reverse flyes for variety, supersetting, pre-exhausting, you name it.
You guys are awesome. I have been watching your channel for a while now and you always give clear advice and never bullshit. Also not once have you guys ever said "don't forget to hit like/subscribe". Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for the video! I've been having some sharp pain in the front of my shoulder lately, and I had to take it easy on the weights, like bench press. This could help look into what I did wrong.
Shoulder pain and rotator cuff injuries are notorious in the world of bodybuilding, especially when people come to workout their shoulders after a significant break in working out. Firstly, for warm ups, definitely start off every workout with some rotator cuff exercises. I always hold 2.5 to 3 kg dumbells or plates in each hand and do 20 - 25 reps, and I'm done. Secondly, try taking fish oil tablets with Omega 3 in them. Omega 3 has anti inflammatory properties. Combine this with applying some Arnica Montana (which is an anti inflammatory cream like Voltaren, for sports injuries and what not) on your shoulders and it'll work wonders. Have always done so for me. Hope that helps bro :)
Hey no worries champ. Yeah definitely could be attributing factors. Just eat heaps of polyunsaturated, monounsaturated and good cholestrol based foods and oils, such as peanut butter (natural, no sugar), nuts in general, avocado, olive oil, fish oil and keep those joints greased up baby!
Buff Dudes Ya'll are spot on. my anterior part of my shoulder has been hurting for about a week or so and it is affection almost every heavy, upper body exercise. any suggestions for helping the repair of the shoulder?
I think a lot of people really would benefit from correct shoulder mobility warm up. A lot of my clients complained about shoulder pain when they used to train. As soon as they came to me i used mobility warm ups emphasizing on the shoulder on chest days, shoulder days, press days. Any days that involve intense use of the shoulder girdle.
you guys kick ass. I been hitting the gym up pretty regularly on 60 days to fit, but i think i injured my shoulder on a unbalanced fixed bench press at work, this sucks. hope it aint knife time.
Nice video buff dudes. As a DPT and strength trainer I always try to emphasize Rotator cuff and joint approximation based movements for a warm up. Motion is lotion and firing up the rotators/stabilizers of the shoulder can help to increase blood flow to the area and increase the mind muscle connection via proprioception stimulation. The timer starts when the gym door opens so knowing how to warm up correctly for size is important and should never be over looked. Keep up the great work! Yarr!
guys congrats!! great videos!! I'm new at the gym, 2 months already and yours videos help me a lot.We enjoy watching it !!thanks a lot and keep going !!!
Hey Buff Dudes! I've been off training now for about a month, and won't be starting again for at least 2 weeks because of a shoulder injury. (Not caused by anything you just spoke about thankfully.) Would you be able to show a good all rounded exercise routine to help me get back into it. I don't want to lift anything heavy at all for a while yet. I've struggled to come up with one myself and would appreciate the advice. I think this could help beginners as well and people who just want a change. :) OR if anyone self has some advice I will take it all.
Spot on! Think you pointed out my most common mistake of not including the posterior deltoids as much so thanks for the tips and I'll be sure to include them in my next shoulder workout. Tar very muchly dudes
Thanks for the tips on shoulders! I was still wondering, though, if you would recommend dedicating an entire workout to shoulders, or just adding them onto your existing workouts? Thanks again, keep the great videos coming. You guys are hilarious!
Totally forgot about infraspinatus and teres minor. You have to have proper GH external rotation. Need to make sure the rotator cuff muscles are healthy!
Hi gents! I only just stumbled across your page so I haven't watched all of your videos yet but could you please build on this shoulder video by talking about the rotator cuffs, their importance, and injuries associated with them? Thank you!
Are Standing Behind the Neck Presses bad for you? I incorporate them for variety but it wasn't mentioned in this video. And Thank You for always being informative and inspirational to me. Please keep it up. I enjoy watching your videos because they are very quick and simple and comical.
Can you do some videos regarding management of injuries. I have a nagging brachioradialis injury which forces me to do all back work with my palms facing each other, and lately I have had to avoid bicep work and flies completely. This is a 4 month old injury that I really want to heal, but I don't want to walk away from the gym either. Looking forward to your comments, and keep up the great videos. They are by far the most helpful available.
I have got to the point i get kinda upset when i log in and you guys have not posted a video.. Great advice yet again and fun viewing as well :) keep at it dudes.
Thanks Buff Dudes! It's a great series, for me there's always at least 1 mistake I could correct or even if there's none, it's good to refresh in my mind ;)
If you have an existing shoulder injury, you would exclude any exercise which aggravates the injury, but at the same time do a variety of different shoulder exercises. Right?
Hilarious and great advice. It seems everyday I'm at the gym I'm seeing people using too much weight and momentum. Injuring a shoulder sucks and takes a while to heal.
I'm a total NOOB, are there any videos, or books that break things down Barney style? A video featuring step by step instruction on face pulls, lateral raises, etc. would be of tremendous value.
I know soreness is not the best indicator of effectiveness, but I have noticed that farmer's carries (emphasis on weight not touching body) gets side-delts sore as shlt! Any wide-grip horizontal pulling compound will work the rear delts well.
Really helpful il admit.. i do a few of those mistakes, will try to change how i do stuff, Thanks again for these videos. Keep on inspiring guys! #thumbsup
Great Videos dudes!! Buff Dudes Could you guys make a video on "5 lower back mistakes to avoid?" that would be very helpful, my lower back is deteriorating..
I did 3 sets and 8 reps of Front Raises, Lateral Raises and Bent-Over Lateral Raises. I also did a killer body weight chest workout before it and I completed both. However, I woke up the next day with a mild sting to my right elbow and whenever I flex it or "curl" it upwards it would give me pain to my triceps area and underneath my elbow, I didn't work out that day but the next day (Friday) my left elbow started to sting as well and in the same area (triceps) and now (today) I can barely lift my left elbow up without it hurting but my right elbow is starting to heal a bit.
Athlean-X covored taht up, it's not dangerous and you should still workout without being afraid. There are things you can do to prevent that in the future, search for: elbow pain triceps, on youtube and you should find it. :)
I watched a video on another channel, where this guy explains how using momentum and heavy weight, and really focusing on the concentric phase(lowering the weight as slow as possible) will make your shoulders broad, and strong?
Buff dudes I really love it when you show great exercises for all of the muscle Groups in your let's lift! I would also like to know your schematic for in what order and how you combo your muscle Groups for the different Days of the week! Have a great day!
Anterior medial and posterior. There is no lateral in anatomically description of the shoulder delts. Oops my bad you certainly can use the lateral head as a descriptive term. Anyway we know what you refer to. Good vid. Keep up the good work
What do you recommend for hitting the shoulder stabilizers (the rotator cuff muscles, the serratus anterior and rhomboids)? Like you said it's easier to hit the muscles you can see in the mirror, but I've always had trouble strengthening the deeper stabilizing muscles.
