Top 5 States Retirees Are Moving To In 2024 (Does it Makes Sense?)

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Timestamps:
0:00 Top 5 States Retirees Are Moving To And Leaving
0:20 The Problem With Focusing Just on Income Tax
1:21 The Tricky Variables in State vs. State Comparisons
2:53 Top 5 States, Bottom 5 States
3:44 Assumption #1 - Cost of Living
5:15 Assumption #2 - State Income Tax
7:35 Assumption #3 - Other Tax Considerations
8:12 Assumption #4 - Sales Tax
9:35 Assumption #5 - Real Estate Costs
11:21 The Results - Basic Retirement
12:17 The Results - "Comfortable" Retirement
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@dennislockwood7352 2 месяца назад

What is quickly becoming a huge non-tax expense in some states & especially Florida, is insurance costs for home & auto. Whatever tax savings maybe realized in a state like FL can be wiped out by the astronomical cost of insuring a home & a car there.

@JohnJohn-wr1jo 2 месяца назад

Florida has seen the highest cost of living increases the last 5 years. Throw in property taxes,home and flood insurance that's required in so many areas, utility rates, HOA rates. Sadly the one expense on the horizon that people didn't see coming is medical expenses for seniors. Not to mention the overall steep decline in medical care.

@spencersf 2 месяца назад

Would be amazing to see a video on your take re: top 10 best & worst states to retire based on cost and tax benefits

@JohnJohn-wr1jo 2 месяца назад

What I've learned from researching this subject in great depth completely agrees with your findings. Which is why we decided to stay put in our house and snowbird in Florida and summer in Upstate NY.

@AdventuresWithDuncan 2 месяца назад

Hello Eric! Many thanks for this video, great comparison & very helpful! All the best.

@liamfryers8039 14 дней назад

I love this. I live in Texas, which has toll roads. These are taxes on using public highways. They have other similar 'non-tax' taxes. It would be interesting to see analysis that includes the 'non-tax' taxes.

@hoytoy100 2 месяца назад

Nice analysis.

@ianollmann9393 2 месяца назад

I’m finding California to be fairly reasonable. The prop 13 tax freezes leave me paying about $12k / year on my $1.8M home. My neighbor is paying something like $1k. He’s been here longer. Solar puts a dent in the high electricity rates. The EV cuts the fuel bill by maybe 70%. What remains is food and the Amazon bill. What I am not paying is the hefty heating or a/c bills I would be paying if I moved to these “cheaper” areas. It is also nice to be outside nearly all of the year so easier to get exercise. California’s income tax can actually go to 13.3%. However it is progressive, and doesn’t ramp up until fairly late around $80k. I’m happy to see other retirees leaving. Those homes should go to young families with kiddies. However for me, I’m not going to be living in a redwood forest in any other state.

@SafeguardWealthManagement 2 месяца назад

You are correct. Thanks for the correction on 13.3% vs. 12.3%.

@shirleyruth55 Месяц назад

I'm a native of SOUTHERN CA and had your conditions, but left in 2022 and am only sorry I did not leave in 2000! I am saving a TON in state income tax and a lot more. The entire standard of living there has become "third-world" and no one can deny it = crowds, "freeway" nightmares, crime, homelessness and so much more. I now have solar in SC and my monthly utility dropped by 2/3 (!) from my CA bill = very cold winter nights! What else. . . I could go on and on and on. . . Good luck and hope it continues to be "fairly reasonable." (PS. Getting exercise is easy everywhere. . . it has NOTHING to do with the weather)

@user-yt8cu8hu5l 2 месяца назад

Would be nice to compare the zero or low state tax against each other. Would also be interesting to see to a few international destinations, especially during a Roth conversion window.

@JohnJohn-wr1jo 2 месяца назад

There was a time when low state taxes were something to consider. It's become a moot point in most states because you truly get what ya pay for and they hit you with multiple other fees that make up that differential

@robn.5932 2 месяца назад

Another great video, more state data would be appreciated. Oklahoma Alabama Arizona Utah. Thanks

@SuperMassman 2 месяца назад

BEFORE CONSIDERING A MOVE: visit your area, MORE THE ONE TIME. Rent a place for an extended period each time, preferably during the bad weather, high humidity etc, drive the highways, Its important to visit more then 1 time,, the 1st time its, gee whiz, wow, look at that..the 2nd or 3rd time your starting to see it as it actually is,, damn highway traffic, homeless, crime, quality of people in the area etc... Remember even the most exotic vacation spot has it's trade offs,,

@robevans2114 2 месяца назад

I live in FL and am looking to move to NY which frighten me until I ran the numbers. Rural NY has cheap housing, (

@kckuc310 2 месяца назад

Ny suck taxes and political leaning

@robevans2114 2 месяца назад

@@kckuc310 Mine came out to zero taxes living on Social Security. When you are retired and probably have ten years left, politics is the last thing you want to focus that time on.

@alphamale2363 2 месяца назад

@@robevans2114I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. A lot less stressful.

@JohnJohn-wr1jo 2 месяца назад

As you probably know, NY state property taxes are figured as a percentage to a homes assesment but as a buyer the homes selling price which is much higher than the assessment value of the seller in most cases. That's really not that unusual. What truly sucks is the percentage amount in most of the rural areas. Some close to 3% annually vs NY city that's as low as 1%. So you could be paying the same amount on a 500k home in the sticks vs a 1.5 million home in the city. My family is from the North Country region upstate. I've never lived their but still vacationed there my entire life. Wife and I retired in 2020 and planned on buying a vacation type home on the St Lawrence until we looked at the taxes. At the time property taxes on a 500k home were in the 12 to 15k annually. That's double what I pay on a similar valued home in the mid atlantic. In a state that's rated one of the top 3 most expensive states to retire in. When I was working with a realtor she said the state legislature has destroyed the second/vacation home market with this legislation.

@cpad007 2 дня назад

That is a big weather/climate change.

@billh4285 2 месяца назад

Texas has no state tax but property tax is high and continues to grow every year.

@davidpierce3217 2 месяца назад

The thing that throws a wrench into the California analysis is proposition 13, which essentially means that if you've been working in California and owned a house there for an appreciable time, your property tax is kept artificially low. The analysis in this video (which is very much appreciated) seems to be based on the premise that you move into the state at retirement. However because of Prop 13, staying in California after retirement can be much more competitive with moving to another state, if you've owned your house a decade or two and plan to stay in it.

@JBoy340a 2 месяца назад

True. And property tax is not a function of income so stays high when your income drops

@cpad007 2 дня назад

As a resident of CA for 25 years, and the owner of two houses in TX (where we plan to move for retirement in about 5 years), Prop 13 is quite nice. However, everyone's situation is different. Due to the more affordable housing/land in TX, it attracted me for that reason. Half an acre in the Bay Area ain't happening for me but no biggie in TX. Yes, the property tax in TX is quite annoying (they need a Prop 13!!). I wanted a decent chunk of land to build a nice wood/metal shop to while away my golden years in--and I wasn't moving to Central Cali for it! So I plan to cash out my nicely appreciated home and build a retirement house/shop in TX.

@karllewis735 2 месяца назад

This was extremely useful. The more "holistic" look at living expenses is probably key, and I've not heard many others talking about it. (Also, as a resident of Iowa, I can confirm... there's no easy ocean access or views readily available, for any price.)

@yflyingrock6688 2 месяца назад

Great analysis! Can you cover NV as a comparison to the 5 alternatives CA residents are moving to?

@wiguy3673 2 месяца назад

From our experience moving to and from SC and WI in early 90's, the cost of housing was the main benefit. As you mentioned that cost advantage has largely disappeared today due to the influx of retirees. As for "taxes", in general we found them to be comparable on the whole but taken from different areas i.e. higher sales tax, personal property tax on cars, boats. Also keep in mind the quality and availability of services that your taxes pay for is different as well.

@M22Research 2 месяца назад

Another tax gotcha - how many things a state applies its “property tax” to - In many states the “property tax” only applies to real estate. In other states like North Carolina, the property tax applies to real estate PLUS vehicles, boats, jet skis, and RV’s… every year! And these additional taxes are very material, often several hundred $ per year.

@M22Research 2 месяца назад

We love our state - Michigan - most of the year. When we get cabin fever in January or February, we chose a temperate climate and rent there for several weeks or longer. And if we like, every year we can we can vary that temperate climate location. We also avoid the brutal summer heat of many “typical” retiree locations this way.

@StoreOwner-gy3ep 2 месяца назад

Agreed, additional states like Nevada, Arizona, Idaho?

@fokkerguy5 Месяц назад

Loved the information! Some friends and I would love to see a comparison of Minnesota and Rapid City South Dakota. Minnesota's taxes have become untenable for many facing retirement. We could add vehicle registration to the growing list making MN one of the nations highest taxed states. I would be happy to pay for your services.

@roxiesdad9804 2 месяца назад

California is an expensive state! Mostly not affordable to people moving-in just now. But, if you are a longtime resident, own property -- and have a low property tax bill (thanks to prop 13) -- living her can be a joy. And reasonably cheap. Clearly California has all of the other states beat when it comes to weather (especially coastal southern California residents).

@DonaldMains 2 месяца назад

I can tell you that for many retirees Washington State is not a good choice. There is no state income tax, but the sales tax, and every other state tax for that matter, is very high. The worst is that the estate tax is punitive and causes many retirees over 70 to look to states like Arizona. Yes, you pay a little more in income tax, but if planned correctly your income can be minimized and your heirs get the benefit of your frugality and hard work and not an avaricious state government

@AltayHunter 2 месяца назад

One thing to keep in mind when comparing NYC to other cities is the massive cost of car ownership. Assuming you won't need a car in NYC but would need it elsewhere, the differences in expenses can be less massive than they first appear on paper.

@ssquints8056 2 месяца назад

Average annual cost of car ownership is over $10,000, and outside of NYC more couples than not own two cars

@trackguy4038 2 месяца назад

What about a retired Federal employee??? Some states do not take the Federal pension and the withdraw from the TSP. About 11 states do that.

@BWowed 2 месяца назад

If you think people are moving to new jersey to retire you must live on another planet. I moved out of new jersey about two years ago and at the time my property taxes alone were twenty six thousand dollars a year along with high income tax and high sales tax.

@gregbannish8423 Месяц назад

Agreed, plus NJ has an inheritance tax, not mentioned in the video...

@ld5714 2 месяца назад

Another great video and discussion Eric. I'm very certain this will be useful for many. As a resident in the abominable California I can attest; yes, it really is that bad. Larry, Central Valley, Ca.

@larryjones9773 2 месяца назад

But, you continue to live there....?

@ld5714 2 месяца назад

@@larryjones9773 It's a long story that I won't go into, but fortunately I am in a postition to handle it all okay and when things change in the situation over the next few years, I am planning to exit.

@pattya1679 2 месяца назад

I live in San Diego. Best climate in the world. House is paid for. Property taxes go up 1-2% a year. Solar on the roof pays the electric bill. Changes are happening that aren't great but it's going to be impossible to find a better situation or community.

@larryjones9773 2 месяца назад

@@pattya1679 I'm moving to Irvine, CA, in a couple years. I'm a climate migrant (from Houston, TX). Due to heat/humidity, I'm stuck inside 6 months out of the year. I can no longer tolerate it.

@cliffluxion7019 2 месяца назад

Thank you for this very helpful video! 😊 We live in Illinois, which is a high property tax state, but that has zero income tax for retirement income. And, we currently have a 50% LTV mortgage loan fixed at 2.75%. Hard to imagine that it would make pure financial sense to relocate unless we could eliminate our mortgage, which we are not able to do, unfortunately. Would love a better climate, though. 😃 We are closing in quickly on our FRAs. Roughly 1/3 SSI, 1/3 pension, 1/3 retirement account withdrawals planned.

@kenmcclow8963 2 месяца назад

There are a lot of variables. One of my friends was talking up Tennessee which eliminated their income tax, but I looked at their sales tax which is pretty high like mine in Washington, but Washington doesn’t have sales taxes on groceries. In Washington you could move into a different county and the sales taxes can be 2% lower, or you can shop in Oregon and pay no sales tax while living in Washington and paying no income taxes. Another factor is the price of utilities. I’ve looked at some different areas and they may pay two or three times what I pay for electricity, plus they need to run heating, or cooling more of the year which can add up on your monthly expenses

@user-wh2fd8gx1c 2 месяца назад

Good analysis. I would be interested to see all states ranked similarly. Also, the property tax rate can be a little misleading because in some states like Michigan, if you have lived in your house for a long time the rate is based on original buying price + inflation, not current market value. Of course, if the question is about whether to move, this doesn't apply. Anyway, would be interested how all states rank for retiree's.

@themadlibrarian2933 2 месяца назад

I took advantage of the somewhat expanded brackets of Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to convert my 401(k) to a Roth IRA between 2016 and 2021. I figured that federal tax would always be large compared to state income tax. This also avoids taking a large distribution after age 65 that would subject me to an increase in Medicare premiums. I had used previous opportunities to convert IRA assets to a Roth IRA.

@mflong100 17 часов назад

Texas effective property tax is about 50% higher than you reported, even at the figure you used.

@frederickmarc-aurele2035 2 месяца назад

Please analyze all 50 states.

@jbondy6395 2 месяца назад

Pennsylvania does not tax retirement income!

@2023Red 2 месяца назад

We are comfortable in our 70s living in Phoenix Arizona. Most days are sunny and warm. Even January the days are nice enough to take walks in the 60s. Excellent costs overall and no ice worries. Taxes are fine too. Our other home is Texas. Still great place to retire although it runs second to Arizona. Last place is Florida due to property tax and property insurance increases. If taxes are not an issue for you, then Florida shares the top spot for us. For example, we have had USAA for fifty years. They won’t insure in Florida.

@kenmcclow8963 2 месяца назад

A lot of people in Florida are facing insurance issues now and I don’t think I would want to buy anything there until they figure it out. But insurance is becoming a problem in California and other places with fires. Even here in western Washington fire risk is starting to affect some areas insurance coverage

@JK-ld8cd 2 месяца назад

NJ property taxes are nuts....especially for retirees

@stephensparks1624 2 месяца назад

Can you make the data, or at least some basic data, that you compiled or ended at available for all states?

@MrCool2601 2 месяца назад

Crime/safety are important to retirees and should be a variable. Like to see some that are "top" preference specific e.g. near beach, large senior population. etc.

@jaytate491 2 месяца назад

I'm moving to Tennessee from California. One missed thing is that prop 13 in CA that limits property tax to 1% is already bypassed by mello roos taxes. My average property tax is around 1.5%. My home in Tennessee will be less than .5%, with an equivalent sales tax to California without an income tax. Making 350k a year I'll be saving at least 3k a month in taxation, if not more.

@JBoy340a 2 месяца назад

This needs to include the costs 0f property taxes over the years you pay them. If they increase, by how much and at what rate as they assessed value of you home changes.

@tazeat 2 месяца назад

You have to balance your income level in to retirement and WHAT each state taxes not just the average tax responsibility of its residents. Some states tax income and assets, some states tax more sales taxes and things which generally affect lower incomes more. Having lived all my life in WA and most of that making a decent salary, while everyone complains about WA taxes and for low/medium income they can be, the truth is, above a certain amount of income, it's a pretty sweet place to live. Zero income tax, property taxes decently under 1% depending on area, by buying a smaller retirement house outside the inflated king/snoco markets you can make out quite well and not have much to worry about in planning outside your property and general sales taxes. I've calculated what I would pay in most other states and I haven't found one that would be more favorable from a tax perspective. Compare it to like Idaho which often scores quite well on "low tax state" metrics and you find they seriously put a hurt on someone with a real income with the 6.5% flat tax and they still have a sales taxes not much lower than ours, and well you still have property taxes too albeit at a lower rate. My income tax alone would be triple my property tax bill where I live now. Biggest redeeming factor not captured by those numbers ends up being costs of labor, including housing contractors, restaurants, healthcare which they CAN be considerably cheaper on though.

@Jeanine-fz8md 2 месяца назад

Colorado, Oregon, North Carolina

@joytotheworld3044 2 месяца назад

In my opinion, when you retired, you do not have to take housing cost into consideration because by then your house should already be paid off. Property tax is something that you need to take into consideration. In addition, my questions is to move out of NJ and move to NC, is this a good choice? Not to take house cost into consideration.

@harshadpatel136 2 месяца назад

Yes

@davids2530 2 месяца назад

I’d take house costs into consideration. If your paid off house is worth $300k less than your new house that will have a large impact on your finances. Likewise, if your house is worth $300k more than your new house you will have a nice cushion.

@JohnJohn-wr1jo 2 месяца назад

Rent first. Nobody can give you as good of advice as you can by bootsbon the ground research. Wife and I vacationed for years in Florida. Loved the warm winters. Had always considered at the very least buying a second home there or possibly a full relocation. Fortunately when we retired we decided to rent a home in SW Florida for 6 months first and further research and make an educated decision. We both came to the conclusion in less than 3 months that Florida was a great place to visit in the winter but owning a home their was definitely not a smart move financially. That was 5 years ago and we still winter in Florida but are thankful we didn't move there. We've literally met dozens of people who regret their move to Florida or have already thrown in the towel.

@CalmerThanYouAre1 2 месяца назад

Great content. Would love to see all the income tax free states compared!

@AdrianB7822 Месяц назад

CA property tax is 1.25% where I live not 0.75% . The base is 1%…

@stephenblessed92 2 месяца назад

Californian born and bred. Just retired two years ago. Would love to move someplace cheaper. But when I look at various states I'm always left asking "What's the weather like"? Living in N. California I've been spoiled by the weather. Couldn't imagine moving to a place with snow, high humidity, tornados, hurricanes, sleet and summer rain. It's worth it to me (at least right now) to stay. Plus my house is paid off, that helps.

@cpad007- 2 месяца назад

California has the best, mildest weather hands down--no state can touch it. That said, I'm heading to Texas (most likely) to retire. I can't afford the land area I want in the Bay Area and, yes, cost of living is high here. I will cash out my home I bought in 1998 in the BA whose property taxes are actually cheaper than the place we bought in Austin 5 years ago! Go figure.

@SeattlePaulie 2 месяца назад

State averages are misleading. You need to look at the city or county you want to live in.

@ycplum7062 2 месяца назад

Property tax can vary dramatically within the state. Basic cost of living can also vary dramatically. Frankly, I would look look at areas that meet ypur preference and research the costs in those areas or near those areas.

@speedwayman100 2 месяца назад

Not sure where you're getting your info from but New jersey is far from being a tax friendly state for retirees,and i think states like idaho,montana,wyoming,tennessee,and south dakota are far cheaper and more retirees are flocking to.

@pattya1679 2 месяца назад

It's impossible for a general video to account for people who purchased their homes and have them paid off. In California, property taxes are based primarily on the sale price of the house. Those who bought at the bottom of the market and paid it off are good to stay even in an expensive market because housing is such a large share of expenses.

@resterAnonyme 2 месяца назад

Move to a no income tax state (if you live in an income tax state), become a resident then move overseas. The cost to live outside the US is significantly cheaper. If you live overseas and pay income tax in that country you can get a foreign tax credit to reduce your federal taxes dollar for dollar. Or become a perpetual traveler in retirement and explore the world without paying a foreign country any income taxes, just limit your time in a country to under the 90-day limit (for most visa free countries). People are doing this type of slow travel for under $2K a month and if your income as $4K a month or more you will live extremely comfortably in most areas of the world.

@chris_harvey 2 месяца назад

Good video. Like all things, so many variables in these decisions. I think Tennessee and Arizona would be good states to add to the list. Tax free and common retiree locations. Comparing major city to major city for a couple of examples would be interesting. Only to show how to do it. Something like Washing DC to Tampa Florida or Dallas.

@MediaMaverick_ 2 месяца назад

You couldn’t pay me to live in Texas or Florida. California, New England and/or Pacific Northwest fine by me. Sanity and quality of life.

@stephenhegarty6179 2 месяца назад

Add Tennessee

@michaelmclaughlin1958 2 месяца назад

Yes I’d like to see more states, in my case specifically NC

@mere_cat 2 месяца назад

I live in WA state. Yeah, no income tax, but those sales taxes are painful, especially when you go to buy a car. 😬

@junecampbell771 2 месяца назад

You could buy a car in another state, but when you license it in Washington, you will need to pay the tax then.

@tomatodo8334 2 месяца назад

Those costs seem to be of people who have not retired, have kids at home and still paying a mortgage. Also the cost of selling and moving can take a huge hit on the home equity.

@larryjones9773 2 месяца назад

The recent NAR (National Association of Realtors) Settlement Agreement, will help some with moving costs. Home sellers will no longer need to pay the buyer's agent's 3% fee. And buyers can use the Internet to find their new home, without hiring an agent.

@SafeguardWealthManagement 2 месяца назад

Cost of living numbers shown are based on Bureau of Labor Statistics' data for those over 65

@austinburns4213 2 месяца назад

Comparing to your examples, I can’t understand Missouri. Sales tax close to 10% in our area, property tax (we pay around 5500 for a house worth 445k), and state income tax over 5%. Even WA sounds cheaper. Why? I guess no tourism or natural resource income?

@austinburns4213 2 месяца назад

@@_-Karl-_ yes, we have bottom tier, burned out inner cities, very rural small townships, and upper-middle income suburbs. Quite a range. That creates signifiant misconceptions when on,y looking at an ‘average’ from afar.

@jerseymetalmike5111 18 дней назад

People are retiring and moving to...New Jersey???

@M22Research 2 месяца назад

When doing a move/not move comparison, relying on those over-simplistic tax studies could actually hurt your financial position. Funny you used Michigan in the initial comparison - a subtle but big money saving factor in Michigan is something called “Proposal A”. This law protects existing homeowners from being driven out of their homes by annual property tax hikes. It says an existing homeowner’s property tax hike is capped by the lower of actual home price inflation in their area or 5%, whichever is lower. In our case we have lived in our home since before “Proposal A” (1994). Our property taxes are less than $2,500 per year. If we sold and bought back our home, our property taxes would more than DOUBLE to over $5,500. Furthermore, Michigan offers something called the “Homestead Tax Credit” that can rebate significant portion, even a third or more(!) of those property taxes back to the taxpayer if they have moderate income, often the case with retirees. And 5is tax credit is available to renters. All the state by state tax studies I have seen fail to recognize these factors.

@M22Research 2 месяца назад

@@_-Karl-_ our homestead property tax has nothing to do with age. And we have no problem whatsoever funding infrastructure and schools even though our kids have graduated. It is part of living in and supporting a community. Even from a selfish perspective, underfunding these items hurts the value of our home and deteriorates quality of life. What we do have a problem with is wasteful govt spending and pork barrel spending.