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Top 5 Submachine Guns with Navy SEALs "Coch" and Dorr

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@TacticalHyve Год назад

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@pyeitme508 Год назад

Neat 😮

@Mongo63a Год назад

Only the British do stupid things with mag wells, enters an Aussie that laughs with an Owen SMG.

@Johnny_Cash_Flow Год назад

I recently gave a "Weapons that have been used to try to kill me" story time to my Army AIT students. They were shocked to see the Sten on the list. In Fallujah, 2004 & 2005, we liberated many types of random sub machine guns such as the aforementioned Sten, PPsh, and different variants of the Grease Gun / "Swedish K."

@Sakattack2023 Год назад

Those have all been seen being used in the Ukraine.

@kenlandon7803 5 месяцев назад

Glad they didn't get you!

@redschanel Год назад

The Coch and Dorr show. Best thing on tv 💪🏻

@stephenhogg2472 Год назад

The reason the Sten and Sterling had a side loading magazine is to allow the shooter to lie prone and still be able to use the weapon without raising your upper body and head up making them bigger targets.

@scottzickefoose9829 5 месяцев назад

That same reason is why the Bren Gun had a top mounted magazine.

@sar4x474 Год назад

Was glad to see the MP5 make the top. I could not agree more. We ran a mix of both the MP5’s with the Navy trigger group and CAR-15’s. I was assigned a 15 at first and could not wait to get assigned an MP5. Once I did, it was butter. Now, just an old ef in retirement, I’d give my left YKW to get my hands on an MP5.

@229glock Год назад

I love Dorr’s beard. Looks like someone shaved a Newfoundland dog, grabbed a handful of fur and glued it on his face.

@BIG_ASS_MOOSE Год назад

Saw plenty of MP40 and Sten guns in Iraq lol. Even at our base checkpoint regularly the interpreters would turn these in when coming back from leave. Our main interpreter had a Grease gun too. Pretty cool

@pyeitme508 Год назад

How Iraq got loads of MP40s & Stens?

@m118lr Год назад

@@pyeitme508…ever seen “Lord of War”? Weapon’s smuggling, trading..PURCHASES?

@eddietat95 Год назад

@@pyeitme508 During WWII, the Kingdom of Iraq was overthrown by a short-lived pro-N*zi government which was defeated in 1941 by the Allies in the Anglo-Iraqi War. Iraq was later used as a base for Allied attacks on the Vichy-French-held Mandate of Syria and support for the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran. Loads of WWII weapons from Axis and Allies traded hands in this period, either donated or captured, etc.

@loganwgriffith Год назад

We confiscated a Sterling SMG in Iraq. 2005. A ton of fun. Wish the paperwork had come through to get it demilled and take home, but we just handed it off to our replacements in '06

@IGuppieI Год назад

Awesome vid by the way. Y'all should do PDW's next!

@scotopicvision Год назад

U.S. infantry officers ranked the PPSh as the best combat weapon. General Hal Moore, stated: "on full automatic it outclassed and outgunned what we had in the Korean War. A close-in patrol fight was over very quickly and usually we lost because of it.” Not to mention Russia pushing back the Germans with them

@Sakattack2023 Год назад

Well, that’s a hock of shit, that gun sucks.

@scaleworksRC Год назад

I like the Tommy. Part of actual US history (good and bad), beautiful wood grips, iconic, and the report of 45 ACP in full auto has it's own sound. Glorious.

@m118lr Год назад

Awesome platform..

@kot1831 Год назад

Hugo Schmeisser didn't design neither MP38 nor MP40, Heinrich Vollmer did. HS made only magazine, however his name was on every mag which led to this confusion. And that is the reason why everyone calls MP38/40 Schmeisser when it should be rather called Vollmer.

@paulwilson8672 Год назад

They had a conversion kit for the grease gun so it could shoot 9mm. It was given to the French resistance. Change the bolt and screw in the 9mm barrel. The mags for the 9mm. Very inventive.

@peytonhohenstein3249 Год назад

Buddy of mine in ran a m3 in Iraq with a Natty guard unit, he carried a Barret and wanted a little more than a pistol. If memory serves that was 05 or 06, said he loved it and never had a problem with it.

@kenreckless9845 Год назад

Gents, must give a shout out to the Australian Owen SMG. Better than the Thompson, much better than the Sten, and was used by the Australian Army from 1942 - 1971, including WW2, Korean War, Malayan Emergency and the Vietnam War.

@javiersp15 Год назад

Master Yoda and Obi Wan talking about smgs. Love it.

@jamesgravel7755 Год назад

Pps-43 is one of my favorites and the M31 Suomi. Two of the most underrated sub guns ever produced.

@ivankrylov6270 Год назад

Pps is only underrated in the US general firearms market

@paulwilson8672 Год назад

I got to shoot an MP40 at a Las Vegas gun store. Also got to shoot an MP5 there too. Both were great. I also got to shoot the Thompson and Uzi. Thomson is heavy. All great!!! Just like your videos.

@dash4177 Год назад

The Australian Owen Gun was one of the best smg's of ww2 .....looks like a plumbers effort but in the Pacific theatre is was much sort after

@Phantom_Aspekt 10 месяцев назад

It was still sought after in Vietnam too

@seafarerbones3465 Год назад

MP5 is my fave

@RASCAZ33 Год назад

I love the vids guys! I like everyone on your channel but.. I love the dynamic between Coch & Dorr!

@Deltan1967 Год назад

I reckon that the Owen deserves some recognition. Better than both the Sten and the Sterling. Aussies get things right sometimes.

@Oct14cya Год назад

I’ve had the opportunity to shoot all shown except the Sten. I’ve shot three models of the MP-5 including the PDW; two models of the Thompson M-1A1 and the 1928A1(toting around a fifty round drum bringing the weight up to 14-15 lbs. in a hot steaming jungle would not have been my idea of fun). My favorite though was the MP-40. Extremely controllable and accurate. The M-3 and M-3A1 could use a wider aperture on the rear sight. Philippine SFs use the M-3A1 with a rail welded on top for red dots and are surppressed. Good video thank you.

@bryandow2827 Год назад

what about the Australian Owen SMG served in WW2 up to Vietnam conflict?

@mikeyob4271 Год назад

I ❤the Swedish K. Thank you for your videos.

@pyeitme508 Год назад

Cool, what about Personal Defense Weapons?

@dadsausmchero Год назад

I have never been an operator, but I agree 100% with yall's list. Well done. Im also wanting your take on the PPSH, the Russian sub gun.

@matthewreardon9391 Год назад

Great video guys. Good guy/bad guy stamp of approval could be it's own episode.

@pacificcoastnorthern4842 9 месяцев назад

I lived in Ecuador and the armored car guards carry the Colt AR15 model 635 9mm submachine gun. You would see them all the time when they loaded ATM machines at the mall or on the streets. Had the 32-round magazine. Almost looked chrome because the finish was worn off due to being carried all day.

@Bluescout612 8 месяцев назад

FYI I was curious so I searched and found a company called Keep Shooting that makes new grease gun mags at 39.95$ Great video I love the go thru history of stuff video's. Keep them coming

@henrihamalainen300 8 месяцев назад

Both Sten and MP-40 are simplified versions of MP-34 and as such it had a huge effect on the world.

@halevans3652 Месяц назад

The question that has been lost is why the MP5 is so reliable. The roller lock is responsible for the low recoil and easy control, and the fluted chamber prevents jamming. The empty is forced out of the gun by its own spring pressure. Add a state-of-the-art trigger(timney); the weapon really sings. I would still take a 556 over 9mm for nearly anything other than sidearm or red dot range quick shooting(sub 50m).

@thh4584 Год назад

Supressed m3 we had some in armoury user self modified pieces.

@Bolo2028 Год назад

The Grease Gun is one of my favorites. It is very controllable.

@dandyjones1185 Год назад

The NFA should have been repealed when prohibition ended since that was reactionary legislation to the side-effects of prohibition

@corvetteguy1980 Год назад

My great grandfather carried a M1928A1 Thompson at the Invasion of Saipan.

@paulwilson8672 Год назад

The actor Michael Caine didn't like the Sten. He said that it was easy to have a cook off. He had to fight off human waves in the Korean War.

@soullessjdog Год назад

Can't believe the Tompson was number 4. Just like the M3 grease guns still being used in the gulf was the Tompson was still in the Armory at Fernald Processing Plant in the early 2000s. They also had some colt smgs. Great video guys.

@faeembrugh Год назад

Fired a STEN when I was in the army cadets in the 1970s (we also got to use the BREN and MK4 Lee-Enfields). Only got to fire 5 rounds though as 9mm was in short supply!

@colindegrow1475 Год назад

I was having a rough day 24 minutes ago. Now I feel much better, thanks guys!

@Chris-ct8if Год назад

My Favorite PDW/ Submachine gun is the M2 Carbine. They made over 6 million M1 Carbines during WW2 and converted many in Oct 1944 to the M2 Carbine to counter the Machine guns of the Germans and Japanese. 2,000 fps and 1,000 ft lbs... Way better than the 9mm

@anispadela Год назад

You missed Russian SMG PPSH-41 and PPS-43

@Cstang505 Год назад

Hooyah Coch, Navy Chief, Navy Pride!

@evillabrador1 Год назад

Surprised Mac 10 or 11 wasn’t on the list. Once met a US Recon Marine vet who didn’t like the Grease Gun so carried the Thompson in Korea. Met a guy who was in a van and had to bluff his way through an IRA checkpoint he had a Sterling with a 10 round mag. He got through without a shootout but had to stop to take a shit as soon as he could.

@taffdavies35 Год назад

I carried the Browning 9mm and the smg on duty in NI, but gave up the smg for a shotgun.

@craigthescott5074 8 месяцев назад

Mac 10 and 11 are very hard to control and not accurate to more than about 10 yards due to their extremely high cyclic rate.

@michaelellis3091 Год назад

What about the Beretta SMG?

@leonrussell262 Год назад

nailed it 100%.

@YdoIneedahandle869 Год назад

This is my favorite channel

@Higgins_Nature_Photographer 8 дней назад

How about the Stoner 63, does this fit into your submachine category? It was a 5.56×45mm NATO modular weapon system that was issued to the teams in Vietnam, this is what I carried on my three tours.

@johnkane Год назад

The MP5, was one of the best, weapon systems, I used. You just point it and you hit your X-Ray and never had a failure.

@mikereese15 Год назад

Awesome video

@doubleutubefan5 Год назад

Would the Kriss Vector be considered a sub gun or a PDW? I feel like its bulky size does not help it fit in BUT at a developed 1,200 rpm... It's a ripper. A shame it wasn't reliable enough.

@bryandow2827 Год назад

The Swedish K seen action in Africa, with the Irish troops on UN duty especially the now famous Battle for Jouhativille(apologies for spelling) whee the troops fought Mercenaries forces which out numbered them considerably

@scottzickefoose9829 5 месяцев назад

As far as "the first subgun" goes, take a look at the Italian Villar Perosa from WW1

@honzabalak3462 6 месяцев назад

My vote for one of the most influential SMGs would be the Czechoslovak Vz.23/24/25/26 and the Israeli UZI. It's basically these guns which showed the world that it really is better to move the mass of the bolt above or around the barrel on a blowback SMG, because that allows you to dramatically shorten the gun while keeping the barrel length. If you think about it, pretty much all of the famous WW1 and WW2 SMGs, be it the MP18, Sten, PPS-43 or MP40, suffer the same flaw: the overall length to barrel length ratio is terrible. The barrel is short while the receiver is too long and it's because a big chunk of the bolt sits in the back and needs some extra space to travel.

@LeDiamondDog Год назад

Coch said : ITS A MACHINE GUN ! 😂😂

@nunyurbyznes7611 Год назад

Calling you guys out is reckless! Love ya!

@johnfeliciano585 Год назад

I like the Thompson .45 ACP

@AltronT Год назад

That’s right, you flood the market and get all of your potential enemies to adopt SMGs and then you equip your guys with assault rifles and wreck shop. Lol 😂

@Gearparadummies Год назад

IWI released a stock/CQB kit for the UZI called the UZI PRO and it looks great.

@smhs1262 Год назад

I like it better when Coch talks

@hedonisticpunkvatos 5 месяцев назад

I like drinking a beer when y'all make these vids. :P

@chrisbrent7487 Год назад

Speaking of doing weird stuff with mag wells. The Owen was a far better and more reliable Commonwealth WW2 cheaply made sub machine gun that served through the last half of WW2, Korea, Malaya, Indonesian Confrontation and in Vietnam up until late 1966 when it was replaced by the F1 or M16 depending on the role. Much more reliable that the STEN. Both the Owen and F1 had a top feed magazine. The best two WW2 SMG's were probably the Owen and the Suomi KP/-31, the latter of which had a 36 round stick magazine that went on to be used in the Carl Gustav M45 Swedish K. The early M45's could use the 50 round coffin mags and 71 round Suomi drums too. Plus the Swedes had M39B 9mm ammo which is a 9mm+P with a steel core bullet.

@454FatJack Год назад

Old Micro 1550 minute. Reflex silencer 1790-1800 Mini OB open bolt that 1200~ minute.. BUT CB 1750 minute.

@bryanmcdermott4204 Год назад

Terrific breakdown

@randymcfarland8585 Год назад

I think the following 3 weapons need an honorable mention pps-43 ,mat -49,the berretta m12.

@xusmico187 11 месяцев назад

FInd the old Colt 9mm DEA CLET suppressed. that would be GOLDEN

@nickmail7604 Год назад

The Sterling is a great weapon and it was easy to use left handed. The Thompson was the most important sub machine gun in the entire western hemisphere. Thompson were charging the British government 250 dollars per gun which was stupid costly, so the British Government came up with the Sten as a direct result, costing the equivalent of about 9 dollars to make. Your Government looked at the cost of the Thompson and the cost of the Sten and decided that they wanted a cheaper sub machine gun as well and your "Grease gun" was born. As I'm sure you know the Thompson is a far superior weapon to both the Sten and the Grease gun but was just too costly and the manufacturers refused to compromise on its build. I thought you might of had the French MAT 49 in your list.

@Mike_Y. Год назад

Coche, has your mustache been doing extra PT? Looking good brotha

@corvetteguy1980 Месяц назад

Chuck Norris and the Delta Force used Uzis.

@pg234forreal Год назад

These two would make a great college class. Weapons Studies 101

@woup511 Год назад

where would you put theM2 carbine?

@mikespectre4153 Год назад

Until today, I had ZERO idea that our armed forces used the grease gun after the Vietnam conflict. Friggin nuts man

@stuporfly3696 7 месяцев назад

M3’s were issued to USMC M-60 tank crews in Desert Storm.

@Shimansaji 10 месяцев назад

No love for the PappaShaw? That’s too bad.

@AmyBushnell-kx9fo 16 дней назад

So is a m2 carbine a sub machine gun by your definition ?

@grappler240 Год назад

I think you meant STG-44... Sturm Gewehr.

@tacticalhyvecadre1049 Год назад

It was originally labeled the mp 44 to fool hitler. He hated the idea of the intermediate size cartridge.

@spade2you Год назад

It's a shame the Colt didn't pick up steam and/or get refinements. I've played with MP5 clones for a bit and can't get on board with the reload manual of arms as a solo civilian. If I run dry, it's a big deal and I'd rather have the Colt with more recoil. That being said, I love the modern 9mm PDW offerings for function, reloads, modularity, compactness, etc. I'll take those over the MP5 or Colt any day.

@paulwilson8672 Год назад

Did you guys write your initials with the MP5?

@leveractiongypsy1848 Год назад

Being a student of WWII ( I had two uncles that were with Patton across Europe and made it back) and the weapons, I wonder why they never made a semi auto 'reissue' of the M3 Grease gun. They did reissue a similar ( non full auto) of the Thompson and it does well in sales. I'm a big fan of 45ACP and while I have a cheap carbine ( HiPoint I modified to take 15 round 1911 stick mags) I'd like something better - but the Thompson today is like they were back in the day - expensive!

@kb7.62 Год назад

The cost to tool up, start production, market it, etc; outweighs the benefit to reproducing legacy firearms most of the time

@corvetteguy1980 Год назад

MP40s were used in Vietnam supplied by the CIA for the Southern Vietnamese Army.

@user-hy5xi6wq4q 10 месяцев назад

No mention of the MAC10? Actually, never mind

@bh-2198 Год назад

Thanks Coch and Dorr! :) :us

@csmith5725 Год назад

Did the audio change at like 13 minutes?

@csmith5725 Год назад

Oh, yea. Must've

@Landoftheignorant Месяц назад

Nothing bad about the MP5 except it weighs more than an M16A2…

@PeterKNoone 8 месяцев назад

I missed my chance to get an MP5 as a broke-ass young guy. They actually were for sale in San Francisco, civilian versions but out of my price range.

@stevestandley5571 Год назад

MP40 rules

@josephlharding4586 Год назад

FUCK YEAH COCH AND DORR! Just came back from the gym, dying, had a boiling hot shower to get the grease off of my balls and now I’m Zen’d out watching this!! Thank you fellas!!!

@HAbill Год назад

Good list. Fortunate enough to have time on all of them. Darth Vader approved...

@lucion511 Год назад

Ingram MAC 10 and 11 have entered into the comments😅 Was the Sig MCX LVAW or rattler in service during any of yours timeframes? Whether T and E or already for field use? And agree with below comments. PDWS next please.

@m118lr Год назад

I WONDERED whether it was speaking on ‘issued’ or ALL subs..

@whatisawoman9784 Год назад

No experience with the HK ump?

@ergofoxxxy Год назад

The MP40 weighs almost as much as a m1 garand. It's m1 carbine all day imo

@voteholyk Год назад

AHH the Sten, the first gun I ever owned. Those things are total pieces of crap, but they work.

@mikebowen777 Год назад

I'm going to quibble with you guys a little bit. I have a lot of trigger time on most all of these guns. The Swedish K is the only one I've never handled or fired. I own an Uzi, a Thomspon and a Colt SMG. All NFA with happy switches. If you are comparing all of these as originally designed then I believe you are correct about most everything you said. However, I think if you are using all of them in the modern age; the AR based SMG is actually superior to the MP5. The MP5 is now dated and lacks the modular design of the AR platform, especially when it comes to Optics mounting options. With more modern furniture, magazine options and Optics, the Colt/AR based SMG outclasses the MP5. I can take a pre-86 registered AR lower and modernize all the components with the base receiver and convert it to a completely modern SMG. It is also easily converted to .22lr, 40 S&W, 10MM, 45ACP, 357SIG, etc. and that is just the pistol calibers. The MP5 is more or less stuck with it's 1960's design, features and a much smaller number of caliber options.

@craigthescott5074 8 месяцев назад

I own an MP5 and I’ve shot a Colt 9mm sub gun AR. The Colt shot fine but it seemed to have twice the recoil that the MP5 did.

@halevans3652 Месяц назад

Now, the MP5 can be fully tricked out. It is not currently offered with a last-shot hold open, but there are after-market shops that can do it. If the Trigger pack was the FCU, like with sigs, she would be way ahead with swapping out uppers. The game changer for the SP5 is a Timney trigger(Semi-auto side.)

@PeterKNoone 8 месяцев назад

Wow the sound got kinda wonky on this...not military precision guys.

@andybannon7680 Год назад

Swedish K/ S&W 76

@andybannon7680 Год назад

Mac10

@hiramhaji7813 Год назад

Cool history talk, not my cup of tea. I exercise my pointer finger and it’s pretty fast😎

@454FatJack Год назад

HK Mp5 West German GSG 9. 1977 Somalia airplane rescue. So SAS got idea about a gun from 1964😂

@rom14141 Год назад

Ok, you're full of crap. Ha ha! You guys are great together on video. I've never fired any of these but I have held a 1928 Tommy with the little stock and finger grip forearm thingy, surprisingly heavier than it looks but just felt so comfortable in the crook of my arm at the elbow pointed up holding it one handed for a photo. What's the most comfortable weapons you carried and or shot during your career? Anything you hated for whatever reason? Maybe do a top five of the worst stuff you were ever issued? Lol