Top 5 WORST UNITS in Total War: Rome 2 

lol the eastern spearmen. Their best use is for recreating Thermopylae with 40 of them versus 2 royal Spartans

MY GREAT GREAT X100 GRANDFATHER WAS AN EASTERN SPEARMAN. YOU BRINH HIM SHAME, CONSIDERING THAT HE DIED WHILE MARCHING ON HIS WAY TO SYRIA AND HE TRIPPED ON A ROCK.

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Roman poly bus is AMAZING for defensive battles in settlements and cities: Stick them in front of a gatehouse or at the end of a lane, and have melee units on the left and right. When the enemy comes charging down the aisle, the poly bus rips through them and the melee sandwiches them in place.

Pajama warriors!! :3

Some of these units is why I play divide et Impera for unit types and special area of recruitment units for different army comps. My personal favourite army build would be for DEI 1x Macedonian Companion Cav General/ Roman Legionaries general 3x Thessalanian Cav/ Cataphracts 3x Crossbow Infantry (from Syracuse) 4x Germanic Berserkers 3x Ballistas 2x Spartan Hoplites 4x Thracian Warriors

I remember using eastern spearmen. As mercenaries in Rome 1. To soak up ranged fire from the enemy, and tie down their cavalry. So my hastati, later legionnaries would suffer fewer casualties. As I couldn't recruit them that far out. Good times.

Vigiles/Rorarii purpose is to deal with minor uprisings and help restoring public order. They are NOT designed for open battle.

I like your cinematic panning, reminds me of Time Commanders!

- eastern spearmen running and you mention pyjamas "Hey *Boiiz(see what I did there)*, you havin' a sleepover?

The pyjama spearman were in the original Rome Total war it was good to see them back into the game.

4:30 Horseman at the front. get rekt

Those Celtic Tribesmen look strong for how weak they are.

A pretty good list that is very accurate, but I have to strongly disagree with eastern spearmen. Sure they aren't very good in prolonged melee, I know from experience, but holy shit they are one of the most spectacular anti-cavalry units. In a period of maybe 3-4 seconds a unit of 40 of these guys brought a unit of light missile cavalry from 45 to 21 on the charge. Sure, they can't fight enemy infantry very well, they are vulnerable to missile units and have a poor statline, but when they charge cavalry they will absolutely annihilate them.

Eastern Spearmen... The bane of my existence during my early Parthia playthrough. The whole video all I was thinking was "There's no way these guys are worse than Parthia's units" Then I got to #1 lol.

Me not seeing plebs: hold up you sure about that list

Honestly when I played the Parthians and used the eastern spearmen they where not really THAT bad. Sure their stats truly are not good at all but here is the thing: you are not meant to use them as a front line infantry. Your play style as the Parthians should be a focus on foot and horse archers due to the buffs they both get, thus after your arrows block out the sun and have either killed or injure most of their forces which are painfully trying to make their way towards your fresh eastern spearmen, THEN can you send them to kill what is left of the enemies tired troops. (How fresh a unit is in battle is important.) I'm sure that some think of it as "too much trouble for too little gain" but then again why play an eastern faction if you do not enjoy hit and run tactics and recreations of the battle of Hattin or Carhaee? I will admit however that i would wish this unit was more historically accurate, after all it was part of the reason the Persian empires even existed thanks to the Sparabara formation. At the very least it would be great to have them gain better defence against ranged units so that they can tank the missiles while your archers fire back, or even better have the front of the unit use their spears while the one's in the back fire their arrows, much like the real Persian tactics.

Eastern spearmen are the best infantry if you go the autoresolve route

I was expecting the mob to be on this list

Cavalryman at 4:32 gets absolutely shrekt

the number one unit is useful in numbers put three of them a gainst one unit and it will do okay

Pyjama Warriors lol :D Definitely deserve to be up there.

You guys forgot the slave infantry

Even the worst units can be very useful if you deployed them very tactical Btw you forgot bout those Plebs

Wait, eastern spearmen are worse than plebs from imperator augustus! Wow... plebs don't even have shields!

You forgot plebs which you can recuit after getting slums.

Total war zone you dutch? i hear a dutch acsent

What about flaxmen, I've always seen them get mown down even when they triple the amount of the enemy

+Total War Zone what about mob units?

Egyptian infantry units are very bad, historically they were greatly inferior to the native Macedonian infantry of Alexander's times in combat strength and morale, but in Rome 2 they truly sucked...... Eastern spearmen are also useless and are really just glorified garrison levies that costs more.

eastern spearmen just useful for the human shield XD

Only one unit deserves that number 1 spot.... Plebs/mob

... THE PAJAMA WARRIORS ...

Mob? I thought mob was veryyyy weak

Beehive onagers and Scorpion Balistas are meant to be used en mase, and it's pretty brutal to see the enemy get stung to death by insects. That said, outside of pure entertainment value, you're better off just throwing a massive, flaming boulder at the enemy!

4:20 even the AI is against the use of eastern spearmen 😂😂

I think the units of odrysian kingdom is total shit. The best ones with full upgrade can reach 96-97 damage but they have so low defence that one javeling could kill them all, they are trash at sieging if the fortress is on a hill because they will get shot down years before they reach the gates too burn them. So these guys just didn't work out perfectly for me.

What about Mobs?

what about the mob THE WORST UNITS OF ALL for 50 g a turn you have a units that has 2 attack

What about Plebs?? Surely the eastern spearmen can beat plebs

Persian troops are bad because persians armies were based in the number of troops the had not in the quality of the army. Maybe the battle would had been more balanced if you put more persian spearmen

Honestly, Rome 2 doesn't do the traditional Egyptian units justice. Historically, Egyptian soldiers were among the most disciplined, well trained and feared in the Near East. It comes to the point where there's no point in bringing them to the field at all, making Egypt but another pseudo-Macedonian faction.

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what about mob from rome

Eastern spearman are great. For cannon fodder.

You dutch right ;)

Mine is: 5- Slingers 4- Persian Hoplites 3- Egyptian Infantry 2- Eastern Spearmen 1- Mob

And club levy

eastern spearmen are a meme, even in rtw1

I was expecting hillmen lol

Sent by heir.

These are the best meat shield units ... :)

Heavy onagers are awesome!!

Those eastern spearmen do make great cannonfodder during sieges

Okay, seriously, there's a very good reason plebs/mobs aren't on here; it's WAY too obvious. It's a BUNCH OF IDIOTS WITH KNIVES. They are MADE TO SUCK. Celtic tribesmen are on here because their price is ridiculous, and Eastern Spears are on here because they have the appearance of a low-tier spear unit and barely perform better than the aforementioned mobs. TLDR; Yes, plebs/mobs are worse, but everybody already knows that, and the only time you'd ever use em' is when you get them in garrisons for FREE.

EGIEPTJIAN INFANTRIEE

"If you go to war dressed in Pajamas, then you deserve to die." The Eastern Spearmen (Rome 2) are just Eastern Infantry (Rome 1) with HD Graphics.

Mob are op nerf them!

Eastern spearmen are actually really useful for getting your missile troops more experience

I love egyptian infantry spam in campaign. Sometimes just hiring an army of them to harass and occupy an enemy is the east while you are campaigning in the west is very useful. For online play though they suck.

Hey don't diss my bois the Rorarii, ya'll are laughing at them until you fight the Eastern factions with their cavalry spams

The bane of my Egyptian campaign haha!

I once tried it in a scenario: 20 units of eastern spearmen vs a single unit of praetorians. Guess who won...

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MOB

4:33 The coolest javelin throw of all time!

Hey the rorarii have single handedly held off elephants in my campaigns.

Peasants are the worst imo, it'd rather take 1 unit of pyjama spearmen instead of those useless 3 units of mob/plebs...

what are u talking about eastern spearmen are an amazing elite unit jk lol XD they suck everyone knows

Eastern spearmen best used against horse archers because they have Good block chance

Can't agree about Vigiles/Rorarii. They're not ment to be deployed in the field. Their purpose is to defend the settlements and they do it just fine. Place two units in a chokepoint anf order them to form square. Unless they face really elite troops they will hold the position for a long time, long enough to allow you move heavy infantry around the block and attack enemy from behind. Cheap, available everywhere and dependable. One of the best units

I don't know why CA made eastern spearman so bad and weak?! They were good tho.

been a while since i played, but i think eastern spearman is also dirty cheap, bit better than mobs, very usefull to bulk up an army and tire their units, good to soak arrows, distract enemy while you bring your cavalry to bear, they have their uses.

Purple pyjama`s for the win.

Great list but the Egyptian infantry can be pretty useful to hold the line when in shield wall for me. Same gives for eastern spearmen. I use the in shield square formation.

the pajamas warriors are god-tier meme status with their striped pajamas and hardened carpet for a shield; it makes you realize the Spartans did nothing special at Thermopilae

Illirian cavalry with upgrades is bad ass. Illyrian factions have been so overlooked by CA

The only use eastern spearmen have is at the start of the game you cant get any other units. Same as the tribesmen and levy freemen. Yeah they suck but you need something to fill your ranks.

DISLIKED Nobody disrespects the pajama overlords.

Egyptian Infantry is so underrated. For a cheap unit you can use to quickly flank they are great. I have taken all of Africa with them and Egyptian pikes in the front.

The Eastern spearmen has only one purpose and that is to shield or soak up the AIs attempt to charge against ranks of really good Parthian Archers. Along with great cavalry whose main purpose is to flank the enemy or hit the AI from the rear. This is the Classic hammer & anvil tactic.

Eastern spearmen aren't even meant to be sent forward or used offensively. They should be used as screening force right infront of your archers. The archers and cavalry does the killing.

Legend of tw used the east spearmen in autoresolve with large sucess

Playing as Egypt I always take 6 archers and the rest of the army egyptian infantry just for defensive garrisoned armies. Weird thing is that if I autoresolve they win almost every battle this way. When I play on the battlefield they get slaughtered. So they're not all that bad at holding the fort. Main reason I pick them for this reason is that they have a dirt cheap upkeep.

that thumbnail looks like Jerome Boateng.

The mobs are the worst in my opinion.

Actually Eastern spearmen are useful in auto reslove :) If you stake like 60 unit of it and autoreslove every battle without any fighting strategy（If they battle they lose.） , and even don't even need to care any causlte and upgrades. They are just a cheat for machicincas. XDD（Also it made game like this meaningless if you don't fight any battle and only just cheat.）

egyptian infantry may be garbage.. but they have superior missile block though

Also why the hell are you matching all the units with their bane counterparts i.e spear men against swords, swords against cavalry wtf do you know what Rock, Paper, Scissors is!? IF you want to show how bad units are, don't show them at their worst, show them at their BEST for instance, Roraii are spear units and should hold against at least light cav. But they almost always end up routing even in square. Show that.

Agree with all these except the Illrian Cavalry (sorry for Spelling). These guys are extremely cost effective, on multilayer I will get up to 6 units of them combined with lots of cheap skirmishers and some elite spears, great combo.

I dun really care about how good or bad the units are, I just care about the Graphics and the battle of the game, for some reason. My computer has shitty graphics for the game but when I watch vids, Its perfectly normal. For some reason, Setting the graphics to Extreme makes it even more shittier and laggier.

I dun really care about how good or bad the units are, I just care about the Graphics and the battle of the game, for some reason. My computer has shitty graphics for the game but when I watch vids, Its perfectly normal. For some reason, Setting the graphics to Extreme makes it even more shittier and laggier.

haha these players don't know shit, vigiles /rorarii hold up as good as libyan hoplies when in square formation and with the small formation holding back units, missile units can destroy those attacking the rorarii .... do a custom battle of rorarii and javelin army against whatever..... line up the infantry how they are preset already and just put them in square formation, align the javelins as good space behind them and watch how you can destroy any army

Why isn't Citizen Cavalry or Barbarian Light Cavalry on this list? They are actually worse than Illyrian Cavalry and CC cost 80 gold more. Illyrian Cavalry mops the floor with Light Cavalry.

Almost all of this units are early game cheap virgins of course they can’t be good as chad hoplites or legionaries, but I still have a good use of them in different ways: they can support pikes, flank enemies when they’re engaged with my chad units and be a good lads to win some time for retreating chads. Of course they are trash like every early game units

eastern infantry were pajamas warriors in the original Rome Total War as well, also remarkable for how bad they made the Parthian army: an army MADE to rout; and they were wearing PINK pajamas

Don't disrespect eastern spearmen, theyre great when you defend a small town with only the garrison: main line of pikes, the mobs behind them and one eastern slinger behind those. One eastern slinger and one eastern spearmen should protect another entrypoint but the ai usually focuses on the pikes since you placed them closest by. Bring the spears and slingers around and you have a big hit to enemy morsale. Thats it tho

I'm glad that Rorarii didn't make an appeare (I hope they didn't if so I'm drunk) they saved many roman cities only with their corage and square formation for sure bettr than greek garrison hoplites that are their replacements.

Worst: Mobs/Plebs. They're basically spiked barricades because they have shit morale and do very little damage. Then Rorarii.

Actualy the eastern spearmen are very useful infantry for a number of reasons. First of all they are cheap and that means you can easy make an army of yours filled with these troops witch makes for a good numerical supiriority and in open battles this is very good. Secondly when i use them along side my parthian horseman archers or parthian infantry archers for they are very splendin in forcing the enemy not to get close to these archers by either make the enemy focus on them or by standing in front of the archers killing any enemies by sorounding them and flanking them since there will be alote of them and on the meanwhile the archers will hit hard the enemy troops that are more far away. and even by themselves they might not be so tough as other enemy troops but thanks to them you can defeat an army much costier and maybe even better trained with the aid of both them and the aid of either infentry stronger units,specialized troops or cavalary support. overal instead of the worst unit they can actualy be a very VERY good unit because the true importans is not always on stats,but also in sheer,powerful unending numbers AND in how do you use these numbers. (i litteraly managed to win a battle with ONLY eastern spearmen FEWER than the enemy witch did not had many troops himself but had better one's and i think he also had a ranged unit too and still i was victorius.the importance to win is over all strategy. when sheer numbers are not enough you should use cunning by either heading to a forest and ambush the enemy or outflank them witch is what i did to that battle.)