was the same ole same ole Disney style yet was well after toy story. the public wanted more "pixar" style not the old style at the time. just like "The Black Hole" many well known actors voiced the film yet that still did not draw people in. Michel J. Fox was still on top at the time, James Garner, even Leonard Nimoy could not draw in the attendence.
It would honestly be impressive if they created a Vintage Disney World that acted as an interactive museum for some of their retired concepts/rides. It probably wouldn’t be possible due to the startup/upkeep costs for such an idea, but it would be a better use for the attractions than having them sitting around, collecting dust or falling apart in a junkyard.
I'm still upset because I never got to ride it in its original form. Yeah, I know, the WDW one is still there, but the one at DCA was under construction while I was there. To a ten-year-old who loved spooky things (whose love of the spooky has grown even into adulthood), this massive, singed structure looked like Candyland. I loved watching the old Twilight Zone and still do. But I was never able to return to the park, and now it's the Guardians of the Galaxy. Sure, the ride mechanics haven't changed, but the theme was the big draw for me. I do, however, count myself lucky in that I was able to see Pirates of the Caribbean and The Haunted Mansion before their most major changes, as the addition of film characters in the former and the change to Constance in the latter happened in '06 and I was at the park in October of '03. I missed the Tower of Terror opening by seven months..
@@elainesage6346 Tower of Terror was amazing in it's original form! It truly felt like you were in a abandoned haunted hotel. Like the Haunted Mansion, the cast members were very in character and the eerie music that played in the lobby.. i loved it! I like Guardians but Tower will always be my favorite out of the 2 versions!
Not as bad as Splash Mountain! This is just gonna be bad like really bad. She should get her own ride not a cheap re skin of perfectly fine ride. If there was a time too give the chick her own ride it would have 11 years ago. This ride is always packed. It’s just political climate. They bending that knee.
Hey we got a Go Fund Me and a Petition going 80,000 almost 81K strong and we’re fighting this thing we’ve got t shirts ready for protests and everything inside the park and at their offices. We won’t give till they break. This is war and Disney don’t know what kind of shit storm they’ve stirred up with the TRUE FANS.
Tbh I kinda hoped the Princess and the frog ride would have been based on the movie. Like I thought Id see the Riverboat with Tiana and Naveen dancing on it like in the movie.
Yeah. That would have been fun. But only so much of the movie actually takes place in the bayou so there isn't a lot of the movie they could adapt. Plus, it would also mean creating animatronics of Naveen and Tiana's frog forms as well as their human ones. If we're keeping it all to scale, they likely wouldn't be able to get too much movement out of models that size.
Rose Strife14 totally thought the same for many reasons! Dr. Facilier is an awesome character and he might not appear in the new version 😭 Also Ray 😭 but I think this will be better because we’ll get to see Tiana and Naveen in human form not frogs 😁
Rose Strife14 They could recycle the showboat at the end of Splash Mountain for a happy ending scene like that. I’m more disappointed that Dr. a Facilier won’t be making an appearance - he would be a chilling replacement for the vultures & Br’er Rabbit pleading for his life right before the Big Drop.
I literally would DIE for Constance - I wish they did her anamatronic better because her story is 100% and you can even make a case for Hatbox ghost as a possible ex. Whats not to love???
“When Disney announced this, people went mad! They didn’t want this attraction to change, even though they were not visiting it as much as they should.” You can just add this quote to any article, video, podcast, or social media post about any change Disney has ever announced about anything.
Th.El.Co._1 - The PARKS may always be popular, but when it’s a busy summer day, and you can walk on an attraction and have it only be about a quarter full (Ellen’s Energy Adventure, June 2016), then clearly the “fans” of this attraction have stopped going.
@@JustinTheClaw Yea but people haven't stopped going to things like Tower of Terror, California Screamin', Haunted Mansion or Pirates just from a few changes. Obviously that ride is an exception because it's just straight up boring.
Dead House Mouse That effect was always weird. It looked like I should feel water but instead there’s nothing. It would always confuse my body when I’d try touch it and make my hands feel really dry.
I was about to comment about how I was surprised that he didn't mention Bugs Land or Tower of Terror, and then I realized that they're both in California Adventure lol
Tower of Terror is in WDW, Hollywood Studios, and am nostalgic for the Twilight Zone theme not sure if they're implementing another theme change to make Tower of Terror match the new theme the one in California has...
@@driftingdruid Hope not. FL already has a Guardians-themed attraction elsewhere, so replicating Mission Breakout is pointless, never mind that the Hightower Hotel (Tower of Terror) is purposely painted its rustic peachy waste color scheme so that it blends into EPCOT's nearby Monnaco pavillion, since you can actually see the top of its spires covertly hidden among the matching Monnaco landscape.
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh sorry i had to correct the few mistakes you made. The fictional hotel is actually called the Hollywood Tower Hotel. It is however called the Hightower Hotel in Tokyo, which has its own original storyline. Also it blends in with the Morocco, not the Monaco pavillion. There is no Monaco pavillion.
@@adriangroenewald3825 The ironically funny thing is, Tokyo's Haunted Mansion has the pre-2006 "Beating Heart" Bride (who is NOT Constance Hatchaway-Hightower, no matter what marketing or merchandising try to tell you), yet the American Mansions have Connie's 5th & final husband be George, who is said to be George Hightower, brother of Harrison Hightower, who owns the Tower of Terror as far as the overseas parks (Disneyland Paris's Walt Disney Studios Park, Tokyo Disneyland, Shanghai Disneyland & Hong Kong Disneyland) are concerned.
I worked at Disneyland for 3 years (2006-2009) across from the old Country Bears attraction and I would get yelled at more than once a day by guests upset that the attraction was closed. As though I was responsible for it closing! When I informed them that it closed over 5 years ago and gave them the exact date of closing they were much less upset. Be nice to cast-members people!
Rose Strife14, they probably scrapped a few, threw some in the attraction graveyard (Leota’s cart ended up there, so it’s possible), and repurposed the frames already.
I remember the beating heart bride with the indistinguishable face and the glowing eyes. She was the creepiest ghost on the ride to me. Legitimately terrifying looking. I thought it was a great splash of darkness before the goofy graveyard scene.
It’s sad that the animatronics in there were recycled already from America Sings, so they might not be used ever again. It will be missed, but I’m just thankful I won’t have to forego the great drop at the end
I’m pleased that Princess and the Frog is finally getting some love but at the same time, I grew up with Splash Mountain, too. I never liked the drop at the end (and I’m glad to finally see someone else who feels like I did) but I am a little saddened by it leaving for different reasons than most would expect. Like someone else here said, we likely won’t see the America Sings characters ever again and that in itself is sad because those are a great piece of Distory (Disney History). However, I am more saddened by how many people are just outright assuming that Song of the South was meant to be racist. I know quite a few people that saw that film as children and came away from it thinking that African American people were awesome and lovable as a whole and that’s a good thing. Because everyone needs and deserves love and respect. The film is about a little boy, Johnny, who has come with his mother to stay at his grandmother’s plantation. During his stay, little Johnny learns that the best and most interesting people can come in any color, shape or size and that just because you’re small doesn’t mean that you can’t still have a big voice (lesson learned from hearing the Br’er Rabbit tales). I will admit that the film does reflect some of the common images and ideas of the time in which it was made (little Johnny really didn’t need to have a “mammy” but at the same time, the one scene he has with her is very touching and shows the two like close family). But out of the three friends Johnny makes at his grandmother’s, two of them are people of color and Johnny’s moments with both of them really do promote the notion that people are people no matter what they look like or where they come from. He loves them simply because they’re his good friends and that should matter a lot more than people act like it does. Not to mention the fact that if you do your research on the Br’er Rabbit takes, you’ll find that they were all created by African American people in the South, with Br’er Rabbit, the small and meek yet quick and quick-witted, representing themselves as a whole and Br’er Fox often representing the obstacles they had to overcome. The stories where Br’er Rabbit outsmarts Br’er Fox are allegories for hope and rallying together for people of color. Now, not only does Br’er Rabbit win out in all of the stories that Disney chose to animate into the film but I believe that Uncle Remus also succeeds in both teaching kids to imagine their own creative stories but he also succeeds in showing a little boy and a whole audience that what we should aim for the most is love. His love and care for this little boy brought him to new friends and a boundless imagination for stories and definitely showed little Johnny and some kids in the audience (I’ve met a few people who were) that appearances really shouldn’t define what you think of someone. Case in point, my own mother. She was a child when Disney last released Song of the South for a theatrical run. My grandmother really dislikes African American people because she was raised in a period in America where they were still forced to sit at the back of the bus in the smoking areas. So she raised my mom telling her all these bad things about people of color. She took my mom to go see Song of the South when she was very small and my mom has always told me that that day changed her mind forever against the stories her mom was telling her. She saw the very lovable Uncle Remus through Johnny’s eyes and since then, my mom has tried her best to be anti-racist. Now, a lot of people argue that the film is racist because of several things (“mammy” imagery, the tar baby which was left in to stay true to the original tales and the fact that “white” people made the film and used “ideals” against the Post-Reconstruction background) and several I have met have told me “well, the movie doesn’t show Johnny as an adult after his parents have raised him to be racist”. But honestly, unless there’s a sequel to a film, whatever happens after the story is told is kind of not relevant to the story that was MEANT to be told. If it was, we would either have a longer film or a sequel. But the meaning of Song of the South is the peaceful relationship between Johnny and Uncle Remus. People need to just love and trust each other like they do. I’ll agree that the “mammy” imagery in the film isn’t good but I like the scene where Johnny and Tilly (its been a few years since I’ve watched so I may get some names wrong since I’m pretty bad at names) are talking about the frogs is endearing just a little bit. But attacking the tar baby scene and saying that the film is racist for being idealized seem a little forced to me. For one thing, like I already said, the tar baby was left in more than likely so as not to derail or in any way mess with the original tale. For another, the idealism could be seen as racist but I think that it could also be understood under the same definition that “ideal” has in the dictionary. An “ideal” is often something we should aim for. Like being that trusting and loving toward someone else regardless of physical appearances and their associated assumptions is an ideal but it’s one that people should aim for. It’s a positive ideal.
I feel like having a princess and the frog them ride feels like they only now remember it especially since the movie came out in 2009 I also wish they made a restaurant theme to the princess and the frog instead of a ride
When I was in Disney World February 2020, I asked Tiana if they were going to give her a restaurant any and she said she’s heard y’all that they would give her one in the parks. Idk if she’s going off of hopeful rumors or if she actually knows of Disney’s future plans since she works there. One can hope
She does have a restaurant, it’s just unfortunately not in the parks. It’s a very small space on one of the cruise ships. I say they need to add it to the parks with the ride.
Correction: There are more than two songs from Song of the South featured in Splash Mountain. The three songs you hear in the ride are: How Do You Do?, Everybody Has a Laughin' Place, and Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah. In the queue and Critter Country's music loop, you hear instrumentals of many other songs from the film such as: Song of the South, Uncle Remus Said, Let the Rain Pour Down, and Sooner or Later. Also, while I can see that you're being quite optimistic about the new ride, I think you should reserve judgment on whether it is good until AFTER the retheme happens. Let's not forget some of the terrible rethemes that Disney has done such as Stitch's Great Escape and Under New Management.
Already heard word that the Splash Mountain in Disneyland will be rushed to get re-themed under a low budget, it's going to suck. Also Disney can just change the songs it isn't that hard. You can help save Splash Mountain by signing the petition on change.org.
ROCKET - I think the retheme’s already started. Sadly I doubt it’s gonna be reversed. But now it sucks even more to learn that it’s gonna be rushed AND have a low budget. Splash Mountain was always my favorite ride ever due to its unique and fun characters as well as it’s simple yet enjoyable story. Hearing that all of that is being replaced is one thing, hearing that they’re barely trying makes it even more disheartening.
Detective Akechi #PancakeLover there is no where the re-theme has already started, Disney hasn’t announced or anything. I don’t know where this guy got his information, he can be wrong about things. If Disneyland ‘s Splash Mountain is rushed then at least it will look a lot like the original
"now turn around deerie and show them your starboard side" ♪ " yo-ho yo-ho a pirates life for me. ♪ we pillage, plunder, ravage and rape. drink up me hardies yo-ho." ♪
the original Splash Mountain will always be in my heart, but the re theme looks so beautiful, and it fits so perfect with the type of ride. Cant wait to see it in action
wow there are a lot of haters on here. they havent seen nor been on the ride so i dont get the hate. im also excited and although i grew up with splash mountain and have easily been on it 500 times change is inevitable so ppl better get on board with it. well, if they dont it wont matter cause they have no choice
The Splash mountain change is complete crap. Disney’s pc pandering is absolutely killing them. The big thing there is that there is nothing racist or problematic in the actual ride. They are destroying a classic
It’s what parks do and nothing will stay forever. If they took away Small world, pirates of the Caribbean, or the fantasyland attractions that would be much more heartbreaking. Cause why have a ride based on a movie that we can’t even watch. That’s just weird
@@GreyM900 because the story in Splash Mountain has a good message, and a compelling narrative. the proposal for the Princess and the Frog ride skips right over the conflicts of that movie, aka Dr. Facilier. if they were replacing Splash Mountain with something that looked or sounded better, i wouldnt have quite as much of a problem with it (a Moana log ride would probably be pretty cool). the proposal described in this video is worse and the reasons for the change are frustrating as all hell
Kevin Boudreaux moana wouldn’t even work and giving her a log makes no sense and theming wouldn’t be good. Worried for WDW cause it doesn’t seem to fit either. Princess and the frog has a good message too so I don’t see the problem. Yes but that’s like...many Disney rides. They don’t follow the actual movie. Like cars. I mean many people don’t even actually know that Song of the South was a thing or the origins for beer rabbit so why does it matter? Changing a story that many people who rode the ride knew nothing about
I feel like people are overacting about the splash mountain ride, many people don't even know about the movie, and there isn't any ties to the racist stuff in the ride, they're just using the characters to make a fun story. I like the princess and the frog movie, don't get me wrong but, I just feel like it'd be shameful to get rid of such an iconic ride. Why don't they just give Tiana her own ride somewhere else, or even just give her a restaurant somewhere in the park? This is just my opinion, please respect it..
Having the characters and songs does tie it in because they are at there core part of one of the most racist movies. And yes the ride may be fun but personally, I'd rather to have sacrificed a ride to make black disney fans more comfortable, I respect your opinion, just thought I'd give my 2 cents
Dead meme I was wondering, have you watched the movie? Because I have and I didn't see anything very racist, but I am not very educated in what is and isn't racist so I was wondering if you could tell me if you did watch it...
Winnie-the-Pooh is awful. Replace it with Princess and Frog, and leave Splash Mountain as it is. Problem solved. I wish Disney wouldn't give in to the haters so often.
Well yeah, Disneyland has been around for years and has a ton of fans and park goers of all ages. It's natural some people feel upset about old rides changing.
People will defend shitty, racist, problematic rides/movies/music/toys etc. because "It'S mY cHiLdHoOD!" They believe that by recognising that something is a problem, that means THEY, by extension, are a problem, too. Which isn't far off considering how much people are defending a blatantly racist ride.
To be honest the massive Brer Bear that’s tied up I can only imagine something that large will be converted into Louis tied up in a Mardi Gras banner or something on that line. It’s so big and imo an iconic aspect of the ride that I hope it’s refurbished into him!
@@richardjones2054 Yeah I disagree. Disney’s incorporating many screens to make the background more immersive and interactive. However many of the animatronics in the ride will be re-skinned to another ride, or dismantled for parts. Audio animatronics are a massive Disney staple and will continue to stay in the ride. Brer Bear’s parts and mechanics are so large that using an equally clumsy and large character like Louis makes sense, while keeping Walt’s saying that “if you take out the old, leave part of it behind”. If it were made to be all screen, the ride wouldn’t be successful. There was already an uproar about splash mountain, taking out any and all animatronics would just be hellfire. Ride remodeling is expensive as it is. Disney can afford reskinning an animatronic or two.
@@SkeleJade It's entirely possible they could change it. Right now the only information we have was from the initial proposal from last year. Nothing has been worked on since then. The whole thing is on indefinite hold due to budget. We just have to wait and see.
YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE TOWER OF TERROR!! I think that change was much like Star Wars land, because people were outraged when Disney announced it, but once it opened, people really liked it!
You forgot Journey into the Imagination. That should be number one or at least top five. That is one of the most terrible mess ups that ever happened at Disney. They took an excellent steampunk original ride with incredible animatronics and turned it into a fart joke. The work also took so long that the original animatronics were damaged completely and can no longer be re-created people have been asking for a restoration of the ride ever since but it’s just not possible because of the poor management of the entire projects.
Disney loves using the Flying score from the non-Disney live action Peter Pan movie for their own promotions 😂 and I’m happy they do cause it’s so whimsical and nostalgic
I really want to love Red's redesign. I just wish the Animatronic blended in better in the scene and had better lines. Like if they made her a little more rugged and had something else be juxtaposed to instead of chickens. Perhaps I'll warm up to it.
Me too. At first I was mad but honestly, it's not bad, and now she's an actual pirate and really cool. I just wish they made her a REDHEAD! She just looks brunette now lol!
The bride was an okay change, but would be better if she was a 100. And Galaxy's Edge is honestly really good. But the Pirates changes have been too much. From a loose Jack story to the Red changes. It's a bit too much. I'm honestly looking forward to the new change to Splash Mountain. It's for a good cause, and really looks good. And now, the outdated critter country can rejoin New Orleans Square.
I agree. Say what you will about the bride replacement, but at least it’s a change to one room in the attraction. The rest of the ride is still the same and doesn’t take away from the ride experience. But Pirates of the Caribbean on the other hand...
John Serrano I agree, when I heard the news I cried, I told my friends who haven’t been to Disneyland in a while that the ride was changing and they didn’t understand why I was crying over a piece of my childhood basically being ripped away from me and basically being whipped out of history. I honestly wanted my new baby cousin to see it, I don’t care if it’s based off of a movie that wasn’t received well at all but the ride didn’t send that message. In all honesty I’d rather have a ride based on Tangled or Hercules
John Serrano petitions aren’t gonna do anything about it, there were protests to keep Mr.Toad’s wild ride in Disney world and petitions were signed but it still got replaced. Changes are already in motion and we can’t stop it, also wtf does gender have to do with any of this? Was it some lame way of trying to move your statement and try to be funny?
"With this fantastic change..." Uhh, I wouldn't call Redd in the ride fantastic, it's a rather poorly-written scene. Paris did a much better job with the new Auction scene.
If the scene was written better more people (myself included) would be more ok with the change, but the dialogue is just cringy to me. "A hen for a ten!" "Strike your feathers, dearie, show 'em your flock." Way too forced.
Here's the thing, Song of the South though controversial was not about slavery. It was about slaves being freed and owning land, but most people just believe what social media says. Splash mountain itself was fine and they should have kept the theme as sit was. But they wanted to be Politically Correct and use the first black Princess as the draw to the ride.
Honestly, I think it was Disney's way to try and make a fun movie about history, but then people started calling it racist then soon everyone did too, thus ruining the movie's reputation and making everybody hate it.
@@SkyBlue12.5.01 Good point. It is very unfortunate. The movie gave us the first male African American to win a Academy Award. That should be something Disney celebrates, not erase.
Honestly I was one of those who wasn't happy with the changes to Red because of the historical accuracy but honestly if you read up on some of the female pirates of the era there were some fucking bad bitches out on the water.
I feel bad because the last time I was at Disney I was freezing and it was so cold. I walked by splash mountain there was no wait time. I was too cold though. I told Brier Rabbit we'd visit next time when it was warmer and explained to my little sister Brier rabbit would understand. Since Covid, there probably won't be a next time. But Brier rabbit understands.
I’m also excited and nervous. I’m excited to see what the ride has to offer but I’m sad cause I haven’t ride the original splash mountain. I’ve always been to scared to. 😅
The removal of the Red Head and re-theming of Splash Mountain are horribly reactionary and revisionist. They did nothing but expose issues few park-goers cared about and sullied the original intent of the rides.
The film took place after the Reconstruction Era, after the abolishing of slavery. However, slavery was still legal in the south and people didn't like how they portrayed the life of a slave. You'll have to go on Wiki to read more. The movie's called Song of the South.
Kay Kay yes I know, I’ve seen the movie twice, thing that baffles me is people call it racist, I’m sure there was an obvious reason why they didn’t glorify slavery, because it’s a kids show, the movie is more on progression of races loving each other and other morals like, “no matter how far you go, you can never run away from trouble.” Or something like that.
I still think Elizabeth Swan should've been there instead of the Red head Pirate...showing her speech from World's End and to yell "Hoist the colours" with her Singapore pirate crew by her side.
Wait, so if the ride for The Princess and The Frog takes place after the movie, what would Dr. Facilier look like back from the dead? The reason I brought that up was because it sounds fitting for him and his friends as setting up the big drop. Cause you know... (As the song plays) “Are you ready?” SPLASH!!!!!
i’m so mad that Splash Mountain is being re-themed. I may probably never go to Disney world ever again. I’m glad I got to ride it before it’s too late.
Luckily, I'm going to Disney for the first time in a few weeks, so I'll be able to ride splash mountain before it changes. I really can't wait to see what they do for the princess and the Frog theme tho. The concept art is beautiful, and I can't wait to see it in a ride format
I am torn on the Splash Mountain one. I am an old Dog so I do remember watching Song of the South. and the most up-beat song for kids was Zippity doo dah it was put on every Disney Song album they released and was at least one of the first 3 songs listed on them. I will say the movie did show for the first time a sort of point of view that was not avilable at the time. but still a movie for kids so it was not dark for the day. but did not over simplify what was what. over all an older man.. an older Black man teaching life lessons to a couple of privilaged white kids. should be the take a way. that you can learn from others and understand the teachings. how life throws things at you, how you act ether positive or negative is up to you. and in the end would it not be better to be positive. that what song of the south and the stories of "uncle Remus" was getting at. back to splash mountain, the princess and the frog should have their own tie in. i say don't get rid of the toys and the song zippity doo dah.give it at least a small space some where near by.
@@Canrugger no yours is for you have never seen it. you only say that because others that have not seen it say it is. so you are the ignorant and racist one here.
I think that the re-themeing of the ride is long overdue. There are racist undertones in the original film it was based on, so even if the ride is loosely tied it doesn't look good for Disney. Princess and the Frog is a great film that, to be frank, should've gotten a ride or themed restaurant a long time ago. To be honest, I think this is one of the best changes Disney has ever made, right next to the re-themeing of California Screamin' and Tower of Terror.
@@madhatterholley one can find "racist undertones" in anything for example the fake "OK" meaning white power. even if you turn your hand upside down it still does not spell wp. its mP upside down, right side up its Wb. backwards its qm or dw still can't get WP. not even deslexia can get wp out of it. the only way, is to have a racist mind in the first place to pretend its real. now over the years i do know many movies that where overtly racist and cruel. Song of the south did not hide it, but toned it down. but it was after all it was to be a positive message not a negative one unlike so many others they are not complaing about. not saying it was right, no its not. but the story had a positive message taught by the blacks to the white kids. as a kid i knew several older blacks that where kind to all us kids and we listen to their stories. and as kids we respected any kind adult round. if we did not our parents would hear about it and give us a whooping for the disrespect shown to any adult. no matter the color of their skin. I think its the positive nature of the story that is the problem for it is not showing just the cruel and hate side all the time. for everyone in this argument forgets it was white people fighting other white people for blacks to be free.
The new pirates scene is actually trash though. A gun wielding pirate talking about how much they love rum isn’t a much better character for kids to look up to. We also lost classic quotable Paul Frees dialogue in favor of bland, forgettable, lines. I hope that scene gets rewritten soon. It has potential to be great, but that potential was squandered.
My problem is with the dialogue. I like Redd. I'm okay with the changes. But for her dialogue to just be spur-of-the-moment puns based on the original dialogue from the scene (thereby reminding anyone who remembers the old scene that it's been changed while simultaneously confusing new riders with awkward dialogue that's referencing something they've never seen) just bad taste, lack of thought. I think they should keep the changes (maybe get rid of one of the Jack Sparrows) and simply rerecord the dialogue with a cohesive original scene.
I still think it's ironic that in order to be more racially sensitive, they want to replace Brer Rabbit/Bear/Fox, characters with roots in traditional African folktales, with basically a white story in black clothing. If it was up to me, I would've tried to make new media with Brer Rabbit/Fox/Bear that isn't problematic and maybe even delves deeper into African and/or American folktales. Then you not only create more interest in characters that are basically orphaned from their source movie, but also get people who never rode the ride interested in... riding the ride. Also this change is very likely to get axed. Disney's bottom line isn't looking very great and they've already canceled a bunch of high-profile ride renovations, not to mention demand for Splash Mountain merchandise is higher than ever thanks to the announcement, so I wouldn't be surprised if that refurb gets cancelled too
Yeah, this is the same company that axed the Main Street Electrical Parade as it kept getting more and more popular, and even kept it for one more year because so many people were coming to Disneyland just to see the parade. Then they replaced it with Light Magic . . .
Sorry but princess and the frog is just not popular enough to gut splash mountain for. They are wrong to dump splash mountain. It was an instant classic
j-dizzle time It’s pandering at its worst. A bunch of online slacktovists with way too much time on their hands whining about a movie that’s not only completely separate from the ride, but it’s a movie I guarantee most of them haven’t even seen, someone has just told them to be offended by it
Tim M you are absolutely right. Instead of doing something with your life, people are just going through history to see how they can get offended. Idk how people can sleep at night
I'm sad I'll never get to ride Splash Mountain, I'm a huge fan of animatronics, particularly the earlier ones and the thought that I'll never see them IRL makes me want to cry :(
1. I wouldn't mind The Country Bears Jamboree becoming something like Country Bears Concert, based on the movie. 2. Disney, please don't change or get rid of DinoLand U.S.A. unless you plan to expand it and add more to the dinosaur theme.
Brownsfan32 agreed. Dino land is almost the equivalent of California Adventure in a way- taking tacky carnival/fair rides + putting it in an abandoned corner in hopes it draws guests in. I feel like animal kingdom needs something like the Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland but that better fits in with the lay of the land.
Country Bears is getting a massive song update, but no word on what the new songs will be. It was slated for change in the next couple years, but with the park budgets reeling who knows.
zombiekiller2112 sure but what real “racist” elements does splash mountain contain? If I were to ban a book that has a mention of hitler in it because he was a nazi, then all I am doing is taking knowledge away from people, the world will never progress if we don’t learn from mistakes and children will grow up without thinking there is any wrong in the world.
I love splash mountain and it's my favourite ride ever made and I could understand the change due to its link to song of the south, but I guess what hurts is seeing the ride itself called problematic and racist by so many people when Imagineers went out of their way to edit out problematic elements from the ride. I feel all its problems lie purely in the source material and the ride itself is getting a lot of unnessecarey hate due to that link.
If people actually READ they would know that the black people were share holders and the man character was very loved!! It’s history. There were black shareholders . It all happened. But we shouldn’t be ashamed of them ! Did you expect them to be wearing Nikes and listening to rap? It was a different time. Are we ashamed of natives of other cultures because they are simple or different than us? That is not being tolerant HoW are cute, little animals racist!?!?! I hate these butt hurt , weak , offended by EVERY THING losers of this generation!!! Grow a pair, realize the problem is in you and stop deflecting on everything and everyone around you!!! The world shouldn’t have to change for u to be comfortable!!!! Kinda like the mask philosophy , too! The whole world will mask uo( even though the world isn’t sick!) to protect your WEAK, FEARFUL ass!!!!! Pathetic
Also: I *love* the imagery of turning a ride based on one of Disney’s most racist creations into a ride for Disney’s only black princess. The symbolism; the power! And the project is being lead by a black woman, too!
I’m aware, but I’m still excited because I’d much rather have them pander towards “people like me,” since that’s a pretty accurate phrase lol, than do nothing at all. This will, whether intentional or not, have the effect of creating a space for young black girls in “The Happiest Place on Earth” that they can see themselves in. So, marketing or otherwise, the effects of the decision are really the part I’m excited about
While I totally agree with your list, there are some areas of the park you may have overlooked... Maybe consider a sequel - + The makeover of the Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse into Tarzan's Treehouse. + The addition of Disney Characters into It's a Small World. + The extreme retheming of Fantasyland in the 1980's. + Nature's Wonderland into Big Thunder. + Tom Sawyer Island into...whatever they call it now. + The filling in, and addition of the Yeti to the Matterhorn. + Relocating the Rocket Jets to ground level and a poorly made, cheap paint job to Tomorrowland. and in my opinion, the biggest controversy in the history of the park was what to do with Captain Eo after Michael Jackson's Sexual Allegations.
with the country bear jamboree, it was like: Disney: we're closing the attraction. Everyone: NO YOU CANT DO THAT! Disney: will you go to it? everyone: no. Disney: then why can't we close it? Everyone: .....BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT ATTRACTION! Disney: but then will you go to it? Everyone: like we said, NO.
@@ThrilltimeHeadache But why? The New Orleans connection doesn't carry over to Florida since New Orleans Square is replaced with American colonial Liberty Square & is where The Haunted Mansion is located, meanwhile Pirates is in adjacent Adventureland & Splash Mountain is in Frontierland, because Critter Country doesn't outright exist at Walt Disney World.
yeah when they decided to change splash mountain i knew i’d never be going back to Disney again. giving in to a political agenda. no one can see the movie it’s locked away and the ride has a bunch of animals not humans and to me it’s it’s own story. make Tiana her own ride and don’t rush it, she deserves it. but don’t take away classics especially since they’ve done so much to not make it apart of the movie. the parks are going to trash and following the liberal agenda cause they’re scared to speak up. haven’t been in years and don’t see myself ever going back now that my fav ride is gone. smh SJW’s ruin everything. now for the hate comments 😘
Ya pirates is definitely not a good ride after the ideological shift. Remember when Disney used to have an edge? Just look at their star wars movies... But rise of the resistance is still the best ride experience I've ever been on so its impossible to completely hate what they've become
Jeff Kearney Yeah I haven’t been on Pirates in like over 10 years but i’m sure it’s changed so much. I think it’s funny on pirates how they didn’t like the female oppression so they switched it to male oppression and that’s totally cool? lol it’s like okayyyy then. but i agree Rise of the Resistance looks like a STUNNING ride. They have the power to make amazing things still but they definitely are giving into the political pressure of the left.
@@PJCE15 Not at all picking fights, but if the idea of the gags is the pirates stealing from the townswomen and thusly getting chased down, is that male oppression or just looting pirates getting what they deserve? lol. As for Splash Mountain, there's basically one in every park, so it isn't like it's getting wiped out of Disney. Plus, considering the space restrictions Disney has to work with at DLR, Splash Mountain is a pretty sensible choice for a refurb into Princess and the Frog. That movie certainly deserves a fantastic ride, and considering the awesome advancements in ride technology and storytelling that Disney has made (like Rise of the Resistance, the N'avi River Journey animatronics, etc), I think they'll do very well on this ride. And, since this has been in the works for over a year, it really doesn't sound like political pressure made them decide on this change. As for Pirates, I've been going for as long as I can remember. It's all still really good. Sure, the movie additions aren't amazingly wonderful or anything, but they certainly don't detract from the classic parts of the ride (unless you fixate on them, of course). The new Red's dialogue could use some work but she's actually really cool and ties in to that old painting of a pirate red from the caverns. My only complaint is her hair isn't as shockingly red anymore! Other than that, every single ride has undergone changes - Indiana Jones, it's a small world, Space Mountain, and so on. Disney just doesn't stay still, and if you expect that of them, you're just bound to be disappointed! What do you think of the Haunted Mansion changes?
Olivia Carroll I really like your comment and what you had to say! to me i really don’t care about the pirates being chased im just pointing out the hypocrisy in the argument. why is it okay to have a male chased down but not a female? and then saying it’s just what they deserve kinda proves my point. I also have no issue with the Red character and think she’s super cool and I agree that the changes they made with her are awesome and needed. but in the end i don’t really care about the change of the chasing down pirates i just think it’s ironic and kinda hypocritical lol. and they’re changing both DisneyWorld and Disneyland Splash mountain and I ain’t flying to another country to ride Splash Mountain. I barely have enough to go to a Disney in the states. I feel like they should keep one or just wish they would. It’s a classic and some of the classics they shouldn’t touch and KNOW they can’t touch too much cause of the uproar from that fan base. Like if they changed Haunted Mansion or Pirates that drastically they know they’ll get back lash from the fan base of those rides. But to change splash mountain they paint it as what the political left wants to hear so there’s not as much of an uproar. and to me things have been political since 2016 not just this year alone. I agree that Princess and the frog should get an AWESOME ride but I don’t see why they can’t just keep one in the states and remodel the other like they did with Tower of Terror? Just one?! Just for the original fan base that still cherished that ride to their fullest extent. That’s literally my fav ride and I truly see no point in going to Disney anymore besides DisneyLand for the Matterhorn. I agree small changes and changes in general are needed. But completely abolishing a HUGE classic makes no sense to me.
Splash Mountain is a classic and there’s no controversy surrounding the ride because the ride has a cast of characters of a diverse menagerie of many animal species like bears, foxes, bunnies, raccoons, frogs, gators, possums, storks, and so many other species!
It wear the original ani.als came from, the song of the south. Even though the ride has nothing to do with the movie it still has ties. And besidr you can't even buy or watch that movie anymore unless b you some how already have it, or buy it off the dark web or something
Stephaniecm011 Yeah... True... There’s a few typos in that message you sent me... I prefer some classic attractions that should be left alone rather than have some expensive retheming...
Well actually its not a classic attraction. It was built in 1989. The movie may be classic but the ride is not. Classic rides are anything that was there when the park was open in 1955- through about 1975, like peter pan's flight, pirates of the Caribbean, enchanted tiki room, sleeping beauty's castel, haunted mansion, tea cups, snow white scary adventures , space mountain, jungle cruise, its a small world, Mr toad, etc.
It defaintly is controversial cuase it came from a film that poorly portrayed share cropping. Also you can buy copies of the movie even DVD copies.cuase it was released in countries like Canada on DVD and video tape.
@@staceymccarty442 Look, just for a min take off your nostalgia goggles. We are in the biggest civil rights movement, and with such a racist source it had to leave. Stereotypes that were shown in the movie have been harmful to the black community for centuries and with such a source it has no place in a theme park. It doesn't matter that it's a classic ride because the source material is harmful
@76aldebaran Cuz the movie has harmful stereotypes and having black men happy being slaves, also Tiana is also somewhat historically important by being the first black disney princess. So both feature black history (along with princess and the frog teaching about new Orleans culture which is primarily populated by poc)
There’s one thing that sets apart all the other controversial changes from Splash Mountain - undue external pressure. Disney has had to aggressively review every aspect of its Parks and Resorts division, putting other projects on hold, but yet they still are giving precedence to a haphazard change like this. Let’s not forget how notoriously slow they are from announcement to opening of new attractions.. so much for a beloved ride being a real thorn in their side.
It's not that haphazard or a result of external pressure. This was planned to happen for a long time.they just announced it easier then expected due to social iusses. The real reason for the change is cuase most of splash montains animatronics are broken and it most likely is to costly to up keep all of them.esipceally considering the massive boat full of spare animatronics I believe from America sings
star and fox That’s a good point. Many of the animatronics used at Disneyland were recycled from America Sings, while at Disney World most of the animatronics were made for its version of the ride so they are of a little bit newer vintage. Another version of Splash Mountain exists at Tokyo Disneyland, but they’re not closing the ride. I wonder why. It’s clear that with the timing of the announcement, that this was not an entirely internal decision that was made, and why it’s understandably outraged a lot of fans of the parks.
Anthony Piseno there is no logic behind racism and sexism. But it is full of emotion - hate, fear, and insecurity just to name a few. Any argument you could make could be quickly and easily dismantled with history and statistics.
@@MyBoyBuildsCoffin You're are assuming that I am asking for racism and sexism because your beliefs are so emotionally bias they do not allow for differentiating perspectives. But logic is better than that. In addition, you will not frighten me away with "history and statistics" no specifics have been made to bring up such. You can move along now SJW.
They aren't ruining it.a lot of the animatronics on the ride are broken with at least 1 on the boat scene owes being broken. Also splash mountain was problematic the day it was built cuase it was based on one of the only Disney films never released from vault for USA audiences due to the way it portrayed share cropers.
i’m so excited for the Princess and The Frog change! Tiana deserves this, and I think she deserves a restaurant/cafe! They could serve her famous Beignets!
don't really need a haunted wedding march: that traditional wedding song of "dun-DUN-dudun" was an opera song that played during a scene when the bride would DIE as she was walking down the aisle! it is perfectly thematic for the Haunted Mansion
I have seen Song of the South and it is NOT racist at all. People need to see the movie before assuming that it is racist like the media says it is. It is a product of its time and should be seen like that. Disney should put Song of the South on Disney+ with a Disclaimer that tells the viewer that the movie was made in a different time and some themes could be seen as inappropriate in today’s society and Disney should keep Splash Mountain the way it is as it brings the Br’er characters, who,originated from African folklore, to life. Removing Br’er Rabbit and friends from Splash Mountain is a big disrespect to Walt Disney, who loved the Br’er Rabbit stories. Even though Walt always embraced change, he also loved to preserve the past. “I love the nostalgia myself. I hope we never lose some of the things of the past”- Walt Disney #savesplashmountain
I’m surprised that you didn’t have Tower of Terror being retheme to Guardians on this list. That caused a huge uproar, and to this day there are people that are not happy, counting me, about that change. Personally experienced both and liked Tower so much better. The experience with Guardians seems so forced and completely bland with predictable themes. I hate, hate, HATE the new auction scene in Pirates. The red head pirate looks like Catlyin Jenner and the scene is also forced, which seems so out of place in the whole ride. That was a huge mistake. I’ll admit I’m very indifferent about Splash Mountain. I’m tore by it because one side, loves how it is and has become iconic over the years. Another part of me is also curious to see how the new change will look. I get that Song of the South has a bad racial stigma, but I personally do not see anything wrong with the ride at all. Nothing racist, or bad. When that back entrance to Galaxy’s Edge opened, I heard that people were taking notice to it and was becoming more popular. Unfortunately with all the racial tension going on, that was the nail in the coffin. Again this is only my opinion on this video
Mission Breakout is at California Adventure NOT Disneyland prime & still operates at Hollywood Studios in Florida & at Disneyland Paris's Walt Disney Studios secondary park.
Why doubt that? These changes are ridiculously expensive. Like- mindbogglingly expensive. They would be sure not only to float the idea, but to get at least half-way through pre-prod to make sure the concept is worth investing in before announcing it to the public.
absolutely love the “nobody liked this ride so they were gonna close it and people got MAD” like,,, YALL DIDNT LIKE COUNTRY BEAT JAMBOREE WHY ARE YOU ANGRY
I'll take Beir Fox/bear and rabbit over some princess character ride honestly The ride isn't even racist to begin with, just make a separate ride for her instead of tearing down yet another ride for a lackluster princess film
Litteraly annoyed that people are so scared of history that they want to hide it like it never happened and change something that was one of Walts last ever projects 🙄
Princess and the frog is one of my least favourite disney movies tbh. So not really a fan of the change but thats okay. Controversial statement; I really don't think Song of the South is super racist like people make it out to be. I found an old copy on ebay and went into watching it expecting to be horrified or something but in the end I was just confused. Something said in this video that I just connected was that "people dont go to disney for historical accuracy." Apparently one of the main arguing points in why sots is so racist is that it glorifies the reconstruction era (when the movie is thought to take place). But it's a kids movie. Pretty sure we don't want to show them people being beaten and ridiculed for the colour of their skin so yeah it's not perfectly accurate. It's about kids of different races and classes ignoring their differences and becoming friends with each other which had to have happened at some point, even if it was a minority. The other argument is that one of the brer rabbit stories is racist. Brer bear and brer fox make a decoy animal or "baby" out of tar and thus Uncle Remus reffers to it as the tar baby. It was a racist term to call african american babies but this isn't what it was. The two made the decoy out of literal tar. Tar is a sticky substance so they use it to trap brer rabbit. It was one of the very first disney films and was revolutionary at the time for combining live action and animation. It came out in 1946 so of course people will take it the wrong way now, the film is over 70 years old! I don't know, I just think it's an important piece of disney history as Walt himself worked on the film. We should let people see it instead of claiming it is too racist and hiding it away. As I said, in the end it is about friendship and overcoming differences. It's only racist if we make it racist. Go ahead and insult me or whatever now 🙃Just thought it was worth putting out there, maybe someone agrees. (I did a project on sots for my history class which is why I developed such a strong opinion on it)
Amen! People also forget it’s from the little boy’s perspective, I’m upset because I love the movie and the songs (heck, Laughing Place was the thing that kept me from being homesick when I moved from South Carolina to Florida as a kid) Walt Disney loved Uncle Remus and you can tell! There’s pictures of him reading the stories to Bobby Driscoll on set
I also think the changes for Phantom Manor were also controversial like the brides at Disneyland. The updates changed Melanie’s character from victim to black widow as well and ruined a bit of the mystery surrounding the deaths of her suitors. Both versions are good but I know a lot of people (including me) wished she wasn’t Constance 2.0
My issue is I can't see the thorns on the promotion art, which have every right to still be there as there was a thorn bush in the movie, and that they're pushing the princess angle when at the end of the move the prince chose to stay with Tiana and help her run her dream business so that doesn't make much sense, I also now have an issue with it being a post movie thing as that removes or at least extremely limits the possibility that Dr. Facilier will make an appearance, which is a terrible shame because image that "are you ready!" Bit as you climb towards the fall, that would've been amazing.
While I understand why Disney disowns "Song of the South", do we need to really change the ride? If anything, most of the themes in the ride are so well hidden you barely even notice it, if at all. I grew up with the ride like many and personally I don't think it should be changed. Besides what are they gonna do with the animatronics? Some of the animatronics came from the previous attraction "America Sings" and was a great way to honor a once magical ride. As Americans it feels like we can't talk about the issues of our southern past without some controversy. The idea is to learn from it. It's why some schools still make you read "Of Mice and Men" or "Huckleberry Finn" even though those books do bring up racial slurs and racial problems.
I dont think I'll ever be able to get over the splash mountain retheme. I was very scared child, and I never went on thrill rides. The only reason I ever tried splash mountain was because my brother told me about brer rabbit and brer fox, and being an animal lover, I wanted to see them. Song of the south is controversial, yes, but non of the racist elements are carried over into the ride, so I dont see why it's an issue. By that logic, dumbo and Casey jr also need to close, because of the crow scene. See, that's dumb. The crows dong make an appearance in the park. Neither does the tar baby or any of SOTS racist elements. Also, I'm sorry, but I thought princess in the frog was alright, but I keep forgetting about it. It just wasnt super memorable to me.
