In 5 years we will have children singing from their moms womb I’m not even kidding or they will make idol babies with new technologies to alter their looks before they even come out of their shells
Seeing these kind of things make me miss the golden 3rd gen even more I feel like companies aren't paying attention to 3rd gen at all and it's slowly fading away although there are tons and tons of fans 😭
I mean gen 3's time has passed. Companies and fans need new things, that's why idols have a contract. To tell them they are not here forever and that they better use their time preciously. Companies just debut new groups once they see that fans want something new.
A lot of netizens say that they miss the 2nd gen, while criticizing that the 3rd gen has become much more competition-driven and much less about the music. I'm definitely younger than them so I can relate more closely to 3rd gen's music and some 3rd gen groups like BP. As a BLINK, I can sense a bit of this competition too, like how fans encourage one another to stream new MVs and vote for their idols in award shows. Activities like this may be seen as extreme, but when done in moderation, it strengthens fandom communities and helps idols get the recognition they deserve. But what's going on in the 4th gen is over the top. Kids being forced to endorse fashion brands (which is arguably comparable to child labor in public), the constant blame game in every music show performances, sacrificing vocals in favor of underaged sexy dances and lyrics,... Is kpop getting worse??? The only 4th gen girl group that has managed to break out of this stereotype, for me, is I-DLE. They've got good vocal stability, can dance fairly well, are professional on stage, and can even produce/write songs in this patriarchal kpop industry (oh, and they aren't very involved in the fashion realm). I don't know if there are other talented 4th gen girl groups out there, but I must say that groups like I-DLE are a breath of fresh air in this suffocating system
@@Everythingz127 I don't know but just like me many international fans were introduced to kpop by 3rd gen I had seen Ice Cream and Dynamite for the first time Btw I'm only 16 what do you expect
Blackpink becoming GA is something they worked for. They only became that 2-3 years after their debut and marked their place in the industry. The girls had developed their own styles which caught the eye of the different brands. I love 4th gen girl groups but seeing 14-16 year old girls who probably haven't even found their own style yet, get these big deals as brand ambassadors or global ambassadors just seems a bit wrong/weird for me. Some of the groups have only been in the industry for a year and yet their companies are pushing them towards brand deals. I wish they got the chance to fully find their own style and mark their place in the industry first. Again no hate to any groups, I just wish they focused on music first and then would continue to expand themselves.
I agree with this. Now it feels like being a brand ambassador is the main goal. Newly debuted groups being brand ambassador is like a new trend now. Ofc the money is probably good but let them focus on music and be better artists. This only leads people to focus more on idols visuals instead of their skills.
One of the biggest differences is that, with Blackpink, it really looks like they're doing it because the relevant global brands have all really, really wanted the BP members to be their global ambassadors and have been willing to pay a lot. This in turn makes it more likely that BP can continue to exist for longer than most idol groups. (No profit. No group.) With the 4th Gen groups it looks more like their companies are begging the big brands to give them some status because they want the 4th gen groups to LOOK like they're on the same level as BP, so they probably get named as some kind of ambassador and get a small amount of money. But you can tell that the brands don't see them the same way that they see the BP members...and they don't get the same big event treatment that the BP members do.
@@TEAM__POSEID0N i strongly agree. Cuz all bp members got chosen once they were popular enough & made a spot for themselves in the industry. But these days new groups depend upon their companies & seniors reputation.( I mean how many txt fans are armys and decided to stan them bcuz they are from the same company. No hate i know it's not the case with most people, but it is with some ik) As a 3rd gen kpop fan idk how the new gen is going to deal with all these mess.
@@stancrackheads2220 txt literally wasn't required to be bought into this conversation. Many people heard their music cause it was from the same company but the STANS were all cause of their own hard work.
It really feels weird and wrong when i hear idols calling their fans unnie or hyung and many of the times they have to act romantically for fan service. And i really don't understand how can people go around and say " ok im stanning this group" like its hard for me to get to like a group and actually call myself a fan. I have to listen to their songs, watch their mvs, get to know the members, their personas talents and positions, watch their content so that i can slowly be into them. As an nctzen it took me a year to understand and accept that i actually loved the group and their style so i belong to the fandom. And often i find myself debating whether i like them and i should join the fandom or not. And again most of the time i don't cuz stanning a single group is already hard and brain busying enough. And that is why i can and never will stan a forth gen group.
I have a hard time considering myself a fan of most 4th gen groups. In most cases, the oldest member is either the same age as me or 1-2 years younger. I feel creepy just thinking about saying "I stan a 13/14 year old idol who is way younger than me"
Im a bunny but definitly just for listening to music and give some voice to newjeans cause im an inner baby adult, i still blink to follow blackpink in term of influence
I hate it too, I feel sooo uncomfortable if there are any minors in the group I stan.. I wanted to stan MCND but when I found out how young they are, I found out about them when they came out with Ice Age, I felt too uncomfortable stanning a group with minors..
For blackpink, they became ambassadors after brands saw how popular they got and how everything they wear or use, gets sold out immediately, but for 4th gen, they become ambassadors after debuting, so it's not the same as blackpink, don't bring them into this And also, idols can release music whenever the hell they want, it's just in kpop that the idol can't decide when to release music and has to release one after another. In every other industry, there is no determined time, this whole "long hiatus" things is REALLY STUPID in kpop industry. They don't want your time or money when they are inactive, so what's all the fuss about? Wanna leave the fandom? Leave it, noone cares, they'll gain new ones
The group Billlie had the coolest styling for their Ring ma Bell era. Each member wore a shirt, or skirt, or belt that had one of the albums song titles cleverly printed across it. It was incorporated into a punk style and it was so cute and unique. And I was thinking on why I loved it so much and I realized it’s because I’m so used to seeing “CELINE” or some other high end fashion brand’s name on idols clothes in music videos. It was depreciated the art somehow.
tbh, im fine with blackpink being an ambassador with brands. I mean, it took atleast 2-3 years for them to enter fashion industry as they get popular. So, they kinda worked hard for it. And, for the record, blackpink only attended some fashion show because they have been on their hiatus, but now that they are back, they are already focusing on their music again. But with gen4, they're clearly just focusing on becoming some brand ambassadors.
Lies it's actually the other way around. How the hell are you going to focus on becoming an ambassador when your a kpop idol and then wanna go on a two year hiatus?
@@user-nk1bp1bf2s I don’t understand your comment. What Justine said is true to the letter. Jennie was the first one to be an ambassador and it took 2 years after her debut, the others were 3 years after their debut. When bp is on the world tour, they do the tour. When they are off, they work on their music and on their GA roles. 🤷♀️
The brand thingy is getting real annoying i mean it's good for a idol to have a brand deal but it's getting to much out of hand as companies are trying to get their idols brand deals as soon as they debut which makes it feel like as if more than half of their job is modeling
It's because their job is to be brand ambassadors, it's part of their contract. That all thing about fashion endorsement is just about money. Take YG for instance, one of their big investors is LVMH (the french company that owns Louis Vuitton and other luxury brands). They want some money back from their investment. So they use the Kpop idols of the company to promote their products. The other companies probably do the same. Kpop is not about music anymore, it's just becoming an advertisment system for global fashion companies. Those big foreign companies have found the best way to promote their products to a massive audience.
totally agree with the first one. some idols now are just pretty and not even good at what a kpop idol is supposed to be, just so they can land an endorsement from a fashion brand.
@muhthebestone6441 female singers lmao u acting like male singers are good .i know 99% u are army and think JK is a great vocalist when hes average lmao
@@baeliv505 You've crossed the line. Your literally doing the same by bringing Taylor Swift down. 🤡 You kpop fans are so entitled to your kpop idols so much that you'll even do stupid shit for them
Honestly i remembered the time when every fandom was like bp are models and they should do this rather than being idol and now when their fav doing the same thing they accept it and talk proudly about it, Yg gives bp a comeback in a year and this time was more than that so if they are doing fashion stuff what's wrong atleast we can see them more than earlier
It's funny how all fandoms are complain about bp being models and all....But deep down they want their favs to be the ambassador of brands of which bp are currently ambassadors
It’s not about BP being models and brand ambassadors, people and even blinks are upset that BP/YGE main focus is on modeling instead of being idols and making music. They’re a K-pop group they should be doing more K-pop group activities than they do modeling.
@@Slayoon sweetie, I’m an og blink and I’m not mad that they do BA in their spare times, like millions ok blinks. Also, instead of judging, try putting yourselves in their shoes. Soon they’ll disband, they need to pave the way for their future careers. It’s actually really smart business. And that’s exactly what K-pop is: a buisiness. So before they were BA, they did nothing during hiatus, now, they do brand deals. How does that change your life? 😂 it makes zero difference, the group would have still been on hiatus for 2 years, whether they were BA or not, because that’s how YG operates. Why? Because, the more you make people wait for something, the more attraction you’ll get when it comes out. Again, it’s just business. It’s ridiculous to get mad at that. Nobody bashes Beyoncé for crating her own line of champagne, or Rihanna for her line of cosmetics. And they often take, 4,5 years hiatus. Why on earth are people mad at those girls for doing the same?
@@veewooshi9882 The difference between Beyoncé/Rihanna and BP is that they worked for decades straight and then had hiatuses and then fully branched out in other industries and focused on that. Beyoncé only had a hiatus for when she was pregnant and then a hiatus because she got pregnant with twins but like Bey said if she wasn’t pregnant she would still have been working. Beyoncé and Rihanna didn’t put out an album have 1-2 year hiatuses and comeback and repeat. Did you read my reply thoroughly? I am criticizing YGE managing of BP. And BP already built their solo fan bases a long time ago. And I’m not mad either I just want more content from them just like many other blinks. This criticism about them having a lack of content isn’t new in BP fandom And the og conversation was about how 4th gen idols are not treating their idol job like a part time job (like the video claimed) but I argued rather it’s BP considering they go back and forth from being idols to brand ambassadors instead of being idols who are also brand ambassadors. And that’s just a fact. Good for you if you don’t mind the lack of content that is your prerogative just like me wanting more idol content from BP is my prerogative. The og conversation about 4th gen idols not treating their idol job like a part time job but rather BP is doing that was based on facts and I was using the management of BP as evidence. This new focus of the conversation you’re making about the management of BP is based on opinion and I’m not going to argue with someone over opinions.
Agree. And the thing is that method really suits bp image. As a group achive many things. 😌 but new born babies should be wait patiently unless rush in to take ambassadorships of brands. Kinda weired. It is
Blackpink becomes brand ambassador after gaining alot of popularity.... marking their position in the industry....they did modeling when they were on hiatus but now since they're back they're more focusing on their group activities what they should....i mean there is nothing wrong to be brand ambassador but after atleast 2-3 years of debuting
Yeah that's really okay because I their initial years blackpink were focused on their music whereas nowadays after debuting just in 2 to 3 months they get brand endorsement seems weird
The one who started the fashion thing in kpop is Blackpink..more like they paved the way for 4th gen ggs but its kinda getting out of hand the brand ur endorsing should be ur favourite and u should work with them to know them..but jumping straight to become a GA is not healthy ...it will affect them..besides endorsing at the age of 16 when u barely know fashion is ridiculous but aespa really grasp the situation tho i like their fashion sense and it suits givenchy a lot
The thing is blackpink make highlight in fashion industry after thier global popularity.. like their impact on RU-vid streams and instagram.. but new gen doing fashions way before these thing is so weird to me..
The one who started the fashion thing, is Gdragon. He's the real fashion persona. But baby fans don't know that. When the og fans read such comments they just laugh. Knowing that you know nothing about the real kpop.
I don't understand why labels think pushing kids into the fashion world is good for their image (or do the labels just want short-term profits?). The channel did get one thing right: kids wearing adult clothes looks silly, and they usually look forced while shooting/going to fashion shows in those clothes. But I'd like to add one thing: BP was a huge group back when they started branching out into fashion. Because they've got a solid fanbase, and because they've actually got good performance skills, BP members can safely shoot thousands of fashion magazines, skip releasing music for nearly 2 years, and still make a successful comeback (ok tbf, they're still sometimes criticized for being nothing but fashion ambassador nowadays). But nowadays, there are young kids who have inadequate vocal stability and barely established reputation, who are forced to promote big adult products that they couldn't even make much sense of yet. But since the industry is so influential nowadays, there will be many extreme fans who buy such products, thus giving the labels more revenues...
I think not They are new groups debuting and bts is on a break But I stay a kpop fan till my death I will Stan the new kpop groups even if they are 10 years younger than me I want to hear their music
Companies are really doing anything just to get their groups successful as soon as possible 💀 like blackpink has all members as an ambassador but they debuted in 2016 and their first ambassador was Jennie in 2017 companies want their groups to be as successful as blackpink so they put all their group members as an ambassador but they don’t know that the main reason of blackpink’s success is because of their amazing music and stages not fashion endorsements 💀💀
"Amazing music", yeah you mean ratatatata, Bada bing Bada boom boom boom or whatta bum bum or even rum pum pum ? 😂😂😂 Bro what amazing music. BP is a vibe Ppl are here cause of 2ne1 and that fact that it's a yg gg group. Blackpink is the first yg group where fans cared mostly about the visuals than the "amazing music". Their debut untill d4 were actual songs, as from then....
@@Everythingz127 You may not think that their songs are "amazing" but some people do. How do you think BLINKs still stayed? BLINKs may not like their MVs but their B-sides and personalities are making them stay Blink. You really can't accept that people still think BLACKPINK'S songs are amazing aren't ya? And it's not BLACKPINK fault that they are more beautiful than you to the point that no one stayed for you and to be with you😭
@@Everythingz127 wow ur really that desperate? Even the lines that you said aren’t amazing are the most ICONIC lines of kpop 💀 and do you really think millions of people like blackpink cus of “2ne1 and that their a YG group”? 💀
@@illegirl2819 no difference tbh, they are under the label, and all of their music is own by the label. Usually is 70 for agency and 30 for artist, but that 30 then go to pay training or comeback debt If you familiar with loona and chuu case, you know about their contract. Reason why Chuu still had money is because of her brand contracts.
@Suhanna Singh yeah, but bts is in different category, they are artists, who became idols for bigger audience. Idols mostly are performers and models, that's the truth. Bushing literally teenage girls because they have brand deals and actual money is meh. If someone want more artistry and self produced singers, they can check khh and r&b industry not idol industry.
Thanks for the video! I'm glad you talk about the brand endorsement contracts. I discovered recently when I was researching about YG that LVMH (the french company that owns Louis Vuitton and other luxury brands) is one of the investors of YG. No wonder the artists of the company become ambassadors of those brands. It's probably the same for every company. It's business as usual.
The brands BP have individually are rivals themselves How on earth is it possible to have deals all arranged by LVMH? And do check out when they invested because I'm Very sure it's after one of them securing a deal. Not before.
@@chandreyeedas1033 I just checked, LVHM invested in YG Entertainment in 2014, so before BP even existed. Lisa has contracts with Celine (LVMH) and Bulgari(LVMH), Rosé YSL (Kering), Tiffany and Co (LVMH) Jisoo: Dior(LVMH) and Cartier(Richemont), Jennie Chanel(Chanel). So about 60% of their contracts comes from LVMH, the company that owns YG. I think sadly, Kpop is just becoming a big advertisement system for those global companies and is not about music anymore. Don't underestimate LVMH, it's a very powerful company. The man that owns LVMH, Bernard Arnaud is the richest man in France and on the world's top 5.
@@nematsu 60% of their brand deals are from LVMH bcuz they have successful brands. And looking at how blackpink got those deals only when they got popular tells u its not about company. Brands want to promote their stuff too they chose bp at that time cause they had an impact as a group but its not the same with 4th gen. These days groups don't become famous bcuz of themselves but bcuz they are a kpop group. With rise of bp and bts brands give groups the deals just for the fact that they are a kpop group, back in the days being a brand ambassador meant emboding the aura of that brand which blackpink did. But now the 4th idols are just pushed without even knowing their style and identity in the fashion world
youre right as a my im so sad that we only get 1 comeback per year, aespa are so talanted and every member are perfect yet sm makes them ambassadors even though they are singers our fandom is starving
i dont think bp deserves to be here and for ppl to find them annoying. they worked hard to become the ambassadors and ppl are now mad AT THEM cuz YG put them on hitaus. does that make sense to you? Like they cant control when they will relese the comeback or go on a world tour or go on a hitaus.
i became a solo stan when I heard BIGBANG, GG, Super Junior, and 2NE1's music. I loved them because of their music. And I am now stanning Lapillus because of their Burn with Love music. I stan groups that make me want go dance and go wild when I hear it. I stan them because of their MUSIC not because of their looks. I only noticed how handsome and beautiful these people are when I decided to observe their visuals for a short period of time. I stan a group that makes me addicted and obsessed because of their MUSIC. I hope new groups today will bring back the legacy of the 2nd gen groups, or better yet bring back the 2nd gen groups so that they can slap these 4th gen groups how to make music and what is being a kpop idol for. When GD paved the way for people to understand what being kpop idol really means, these other 4th gen groups are making that legacy a joke again. Someday, other people might start to hate and belittle kpop idols again, and all they do is debut and be a Model-clout or ambassador-of-big-brands-clout chasers. I watched a video before when 2nd gen groups struggled in the kpop industry where people would belittle and criticize kpop idols thinking of what could these groups bring to society when all they do is pose for the camera and launch music that doesn't make "sense". I fear the day people would start criticizing kpop idols again but with a different approach. Actually, the criticism is starting now. I fear for when these people may belittle kpop idols again, and who would, again, prove to society that they don't debut just for brands but for creating meaningful, wild, or fun music.
I also started with the groups you mentioned and SS501, 2pm and shinee. Back then every singer had there own personally style and it was also ok to have brown complexion. Now everyone has bleached skin, v shaped chins and straight hair it's hard to tell them apart in groups
@@elainelindsey1306 Indeed, it was much more fun and easier to tell apart the members without the companies telling them what to do, and what tone they need to have in order to match or synchronized with the others. Nowadays, girl groups and boy groups have that similar voices when singing that you can't even tell which is which by forcing the singers to abandon their natural voice as well as their natural visuals. And this is all because of fans.
Having their own style, tone, and charm is what these 2nd gen groups impacted all of us and gen z fans do not see this because their eyes were already open to "perfection" which these groups can't reach.
I agree with the last one. Some people stan a group without even knowing the member's name. They saw one dance cover and decided to stan baby monster just because it's yg. I have been listening to kpop for over 3 years, and yet only stan 1 group which is BTS because I like their music and I still listen to asepa, stray kids and more yet I don't stan them. And when people ask why they stan them so quickly( baby monster or more ) they tell us a stupid reason. It took me about 6months to 1 year to get their concept, and for someone who is always very curious I found out the meanings behind their songs as soon as possible. I got to know their personality in less than a year, and once I got to know them I decided to stan the group, also its very unsettling for a group to have 14 or 15 age gaps because you feel weird watching them and you cant really share your problems with a 14 year old as a 20 year old which kind of make them less close
What I hate the most? Kpop is not about music anymore. People stan group/s not because of their music, but because of the idols themselves even if their songs are not that good. Here's also what I think about the issues in the video: It's all about money. People stan groups that haven't even released a song and yet they became instantly famous hence, they get brands deals already. Its so sad that kpop became like that also because of fans. Another thing is that they debut too early, they did not have much time to train which is why I think, in my opinion, many idols really lack skills to be called an idol but as long as they have the visuals, they get famous. And its disturbingly effective.
I agree with all of them It's been piling up for me because I started getting into k-pop when 2ne1 hit the scene with fire and girls generation with run devil run. More and more, especially the 4th gen, its become ridiculous that the music I loved so much has become a backseat to idol drama and bullying, ambassador deals, and the ridiculous fan wars on idols and/or groups leading to s**cides, depression and other disorders. I just want the music is all i'm saying, money is important to sustain the group but companies are becoming more and more greedy
1. The fans 2. Children idols 3. The fans going crazy for children 4. The fans being so sensitive you can't suggest anything 5. The child like fans 6. The fans
idk why everyones acting like debuting at an early age is new, its been hapenning since the beginning. boa from 1st gen debuted at 13, iu, sunmi, hyuna 2nd gen at 14-15, jungkook 3rd gen 15 and so on
This is actually what I was saying idols really need to focus on music if they want to be idols being in the fashion industry completely distracts them and they could lose there fans and if they continue the fashion stuff they will not be the same performers as they were before.they do change and it really makes it harder to be the performers they were . blackpink were like lucky but they did disappoint some fans because of less music and had only 8 songs . but it’s good they are headlining coachella because hopefully they can continue more on there music instead of fashion. they only have two albums out and they probably wanted more music but there stupid management company just keeps them nearly locked up . like if they only care about money they will lose there company if they don’t get there act together and bring out more music. These idiots don’t know anything about the music business and need to let the idols do the music they want to do and actually work with other artists if the girls wanted to . all these other artists want to work with them but yg is like doing nothing but act like criminals. all music companies are so badly treating idols so badly just in for money it’s like a politics game for kpop just disgusting and twisted.
I personally find kpop annoying in general for a pretty long time now. It's like a fake parallel world, where new content is pumped out every 5 mins. It's not so much fun anymore as it was back then in 2010.
@@tokoabc6564 Every now and then i check out, how it went down. Do you have a problem with that ? Or do you just feel offended as a newer kpop fan because i don't have the same opinion as you ?
About the ambassador thing, I'm glad that my fav only focus on music, making great music, making great choreography, making great memories by doing something that make their fans proud of them
Troooth, they look like kids trying hard especially Newjeans. I can't feel any jealousy or envy towards them even though they are wearing those *expensive* but oldies BIIIGG clothes 😭 well, I can't feel those two for bp as well🤦
@@tokoabc6564 Take, for example, a product that sold out because they put one thing on me. Because before BP was GBA They sold out everything they wore. or the impact they have had on fashion.
@@tokoabc6564 Yes, there are teenagers at rich homes. But when it comes to the fashion impact of Gen4, is there any teen stupid enough to buy something a 14-16 year old wears?
I really hate groups where all the members are extremely young. They don’t even have an older member to rely on. Where are those famous Korean petitions demanding an age restriction for idols? So many bad things can happen to them and I also question the morals of their parents.
I really think in the coming gens ( probably 5th I mean it will do come some day) companys will debut 5 - 6 years old as maknae and knetizens will praise their cute innocent looks Caution : someone may criticize them for not being able to walk properly
Straykids most fans are teenager girls..and skz probably knows that...but even after that BANG CHAN CALLS HIS FANS BABY GIRLS AND HIMSELF DADDY,,and he is from Australia...Also if in bubble he flirts with his fans... Skz is doing TOO MUCH FAN SERVICE,,, I can bet in future this gonna back fire him only....
Ok now, the babygirl thing is such an old joke the fandom was so tiny when that happened. Now he call his fans babystays. Skz fandom has more people in their 20s than u think tbh, like the 99% of their fandom are people in 20s. He been tell him a daddy cuz he’s a daddy of 7 kids, Stop sexualizing the word Daddy.
Excuse me, you people are the one sexualising words. He called himself Daddy as a father figure because stays asked him to do that. And he don't use those words now because of some duffers, who think those words are sexual. And every kpop group does fan service bruh. Go watch BTS videos where they called their fans their wife and hyped up the 'will you marry me comments'. Chill bro
@@tokkisubs_ it's being used till now...also if you're a stay might know about his recent bubble messages...they amount of fan service he is doing gonna creat problems for him only....and most stays are under 18
I completely agree all of them✨ This is really annoying that nowadays idols only focus on being brand ambassador of big companies, it must be get them a massive popularity faster than performing BUT dude...they re idols their works is to give performance they are not some dolls who only click photos For this, we are not getting talents in 4th gen, you will not lie 4th gen idols doesn't well like before gens Now people will say about Blackpink or BTS See they re gets popular after that they start to models, they doesn't run behind brands, brands themselves come to them And debuting teenagers who just born it really creepy, see everyone have their own music taste , I have no problems if idols make sexy music or wear revealing outfit BUT they should be adults For me debuting in kpop, Should be 20 -30 because it is right age to take decisions about their life( They are mature)
Honestly it’s crazy how ppl decide to join a group that barely did anything yet.. NewJeans and Lesserafim for example, when they both finally came to be a group you saw many ppl saying “I stan them” even tho they didn’t even put out any music yet. What’s the point of ‘KPOP’ (pop music) if you’re not even supporting them for their music? Idk what’s ppl’s reasons for liking a group that did nothing but join a company their favs are in. Now this new group coming ‘Baby Monster’ you can’t even see their faces only their silhouettes.. and you have ppl already wanting to “stan” them?? This isn’t even abt music anymore… idk wth this is
1. But SNSD was the face of everything, like they have so many songs for the brand as the ambassador, at the time it wasn't fashion brand that's the goal but alcohol brand, fried chicken brands etc. I mean they were everywhere in SK. It's just different ambassador goal now because kpop is becoming more and more global. And with BP starting this, making company see the way to be recognised globaly is to become fashion ambassador for each member. I think as long as they're puting out songs and not on long "hiatus" like BP was, it's not annoying. 2. I agree the industry's debuting too young nowadays but it was always like that. Boa was debuting at 13, and saving SM on the way. Shinee's Taemin, f(x)'s Krystal and Sulli, Kara's Jiyoung, etc. was debuting at 14, BTS's Jungkook, IU, 2NE1's Minzy, Miss A's Suzy, etc. debut at 15. I don't support debuting too young too but it's not a 4th gen thing, it's just nowadays we got so many groups popping out left and right, so the number might get bigger. 3. It's a company stan I think mostly, just like BP used to? I mean I know blackpink months before their debut and Astro too because I watch their web drama. That's why big 3 is big 3, and not because of their money (I mean it counts too) but because of the influence and power they had in SK that can stand through time
Would you buy clothes like a 14-16 year old would wear? Seriously? Each year BP generates hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue for the brands they represent.
You know those groups because you're a KPop fan but how about US that doesn't have any idea about KPop? You really think BP success was because of yg stans? In Korea, bp is being humiliate whereas they are being respected and idolized in other countries 😕
@@vicentefiguracion4431 I did not diminish their success because they're from yg lol, I'm just talking about staning group before their debut, just like what we're talking about in the video
The brand thing. As a person stanning kpop since so long i can literally tell that kpop was never all abt music. And 4th gen NO WAY. Nowdays Kpop idols are actually "Influencers" not musicians beside some peoples. For example blackpink. They Don't deserves the title as "top tier artists" which is true. They Don't have any passion for music it Doesn't matter how much their childish fans disagrees. The girls of blackpink are just great Influencers. Not only them some others too. They are highly influenced by big brands nothing else. Young fans are making them 2x famous day by day without knowing that they are not even musicians just influencers. And i dont Think 4th Gen idols really knows what even music is. There are some idols that can't even sing, rap properly. How tf they are musicians? They knows that they Don't have to put much effort in music and vocals etc. They are just here to make themeselves great influencers. Yall It's not that easy to have a passion for music. And becoming an real "artist" It's an inner thing
I get that pushing very young teens into the harsh kpop industry is undesirable for various reasons. But I don't get when some people say that they feel they are too old to be a fan of these idols. I mean do you generally look up artists' bio before listening to their music? If you like a song, you will look further for other music, performances and maybe variety content eventually, if you like their personalities enough. And then decide to support them. If you don't, then you listen to them on Spotify, yt and such and just leave it at that. When did age become the pivotal factor in deciding whether you like their music or performance or not?
This, like do they do this with western artists as well? I get them being concerned about the type of concept and stuff, but to use age as the MAIN factor is weird.
3:33 "back in the day idols would only debut after the age of 16 ..." 💀 madam somebody lied to you 3:34 and the song where Yeri was first introduced in the group has lyrics like this - "Please give me that sweet taste, ice cream cake With a flavor that fits this special day The ice cream that’s on my mouth Makes your heart pound and you'll come to me It’s so tasty come and chase me I can't hold it in I scream, you scream Gimme that, gimme that, ice cream" See the industry is fucked up from the very beginning .None of the company and generation was better than anyone.
I'm not sure how to put this but, as soon as Hyein debuted I feel as if everyone targeted her because of her age. I don't really know why they targeting her like BoA debuted when she was 13, Taemin debuted when he was 15 and the list goes on! I know you all may think that they're just little kids but nobody thought that way when the older idols debuted back then. I'm just glad that nobodys hating on older idols, they truly were the reason behind kpop (imo)
Fisrt of all , blackpink became ambassadors after their great success with music , they got where they are because of their MUSIC and aura Not because of their ambassador status , second of all about them being "zombies" on stage , I think is time you all get over blackpinks Seoul day 1 concert, as someone who physically attended that day , I can say it wasn't as bad as people made it out to be , sure they made a lot of mistakes, a lot more than they ever did I agree but also we have to understandthat the last big concert the performed in from of that large of an audience was at cochella back in 2019 so i understandthat they might be a bit nervous , but most people who went their that day actually had a good time, I know they will still be people who didn't enjoy it and I'm not saying their opinions don't matter, it's just what I have seen that day , most people really enjoyed their concert and besides they took the criticism well and improved a lot, all of them , especially jennie, are on fire these days at the concert , even Seoul day 2 was 10 times better than day one, negativity spreads faster than positivity among people , especially kpop stans , the videos of them Messing up chores were spreading like wild fire that people didn't bother to actually look into their concert that day, I'm not saying they don't ever make any mistakes in their concert now because they do made tiny mistakes sometimes, I'm just saying that people should really look into thing's before commenting on them , in no ways was this to offend anyone , I just had to say this because people were not willing to let go of this , u can have your opinion that's fine , but don't let that opinion pull u away from reality , thanks for taking time to read this I know its a bit long lol, and sorry if my English is not the best :)
annoying thing They performed on stage more than 30 times. But when people start to criticize He will speak from VDO on the first day. And not to mention the other 30 rounds they performed. what the fu*k Barcelona, France and many more rounds in Europe.They kept talking about the just first day of the concert. and this joke, the people who complained were people who didn't attend the concert . I think kpop has really gone downhill. People are judging the concert. From just watching VDO for a few seconds, what happened?
Blackpink still making more than 200 million dollars of concert....to all the haters your 2 or 3 min clips of 1st day Seoul concert , won't do anything to them 🤣🤣
From my take it appears that those from larger companies with a large marketing budget are pushing their idols to be the face of luxury brands but their fanbase wouldn't be able to afford these brands. Also they are skipping over the actual skills needed for an idol such as singing and dancing. Sadly those idols from smaller companies with less money will never be able to compete in terms of what these larger companies can do for their idols. I mean your example of baby monster is so on the money that they haven't even debuted but have a large fanbase staning them already.
I remember when mamadol debuted I was like “wow grown women I really want to watch smth with them they are so mature I have smth to learn from them” and the same was when I was starting to stan BTS. They all were at least five years older than me so I really felt like I’m learning smth new while stanning them because they went through a lot and have a life experience much bigger than mine. But now… what can a 14 year old tell me? What can I learn from them? What can they say that I wouldn’t already know? They are like kids to me and I don’t want to be a babysitter in kindergarten because that’s exactly how I feel when I start to watch some shows or interviews with them.
If a fan who almost the same age with BTS stanning 4th gen group with average age of 15 or 16 and buy their album etc, could they be call sugar daddy and sugar mommy? 😂😂 Kidding 😁
@@UlfaViani sometimes it really feels like it, except the fact that sugar mommy/daddy is more of a sex-engaged relationships, but I do really feel like I’m some sort of an aunt buying my nieces and nephews Christmas presents
it's sad how kpop become all about fashion & look. i would like them to do cover sons showcasing their talent and more in fact i can't consider them as artist at all
Kpop was loved but during 3rd gen esp during bp ddududdudu kpop really started to get popular than bts started to pave the way n finally kpop was recognised all over the world many wrong n annoying things happened in kpop industry but still fans continued to support their groups but now day by day the more idols r getting fame quickly the more the companies r taking annoying n drastic steps n tbh I have seen many kpop fans who have started not to stan or support them if companies make idols more focused on brand deals n fashion weeks than kpop will soon loose its fame cuz we fans stan kpop groups for their talents n music not for their styling hope everything gets better n companies focus more on music,vocals,live singing
Am I the only one that is happy that Idols get brand deals etc? The pay is definitely good and I hope that it can payoff some of their debts (if they have one) since those are really expensive
As much as it's true it's lowkey harmful for idols to debut below ages of 16. It's also 11-13 yr olds that are actively spreading hate in the internet.
Blackpink became global superstar before they became the Global Brand Ambassadors. Gen4 trying to be popular through fashion before they reach the success of being kpop stars. Gen 4 all about competition based on superficial aspects which is why they focus more on beauty & fashion. Gen 1 to 3 idols focused on quality of their music & their stage performances which paved the way to younger generations (or maybe not) coz all are trying to copy their seniors (both BG & GG). I can't even recognize whoch group is which coz they all look and sound similar to each other.
Its soo akward to see idols who are in my age performing on stage...i mean like in baby monster they have a 2009 minor- who is in my age. I started stanning kpop since 2016 and this industry have changed alot...alot means ALOT- most of the things are soo annoying...some idols are trying hard not to be true themselves just for the fame. While others are trying to be pick mes... Idk- wts happening...this kpop industry gets more cruel day by day...
oh my god with the brand thing one i thought i was the only who thought it was so force like as much as i get annoyed with bp being more models than idols i can give credits where it's due they actually fit their brand like jisoo is very matre and elegant which go well with dior, jennie is expensive and sexy which suit chanel etc. and all of the bp members were adult at their debut (19-21) so they already had mature faces for luxury brands but newjeans for example they all look so juvenile which don't suit the luxury brands they endorse they just look like children with grown up clothes plus they don't even suit their brand image like burberry is like a mature, old money type of brand and danielle is a lovely cute girl they don't go well together tho i do think aespa fit givenchy with their ai kinda out there concept and wonyoung do fit miumiu she has a cute, elegant, lovely, rich girl image which is perfect for miu miu with newjeans it just feels force i think they should have waited longer for the girls to develop their image and choose a brand that match i mean if you think of a gucci girl you won't think of someone like hanni they look more like models for the kidswear of the brand then the ambassadors
seriously like most people even if they have talent or not it all mostly depends on how you look these days i think mamamoo is one of the best groups out there like they all have great vocals, can dance , can rap and most of all they dont lip-sync!
Why these obsession over dancing and singing practice and no life outside of them? For BP members, most had practise for a couple of years as trainees, and a few years as an idol before being ambassador of a brand. I don't see why they cannot do both at the same time as they are already trained idols with all the necessary skills.
stanning a group simply because they’re popular or from the big 3/4 is just… odd especially when the group hasn’t debuted and yh it might sound weird that i’m saying this as if bts, bp, twice, and literally all the big groups aren’t my ults but like i stan them because their music talent and personality is good not because they’re popular
This entire video is just nothing but FACTS ✨✨ esp the idols debuting too young & the people stanning idols who havent even debut yet. People be like "omg im gonna stan them so hard they're really talented" like bij how u know? Nothing was released abt them except their silhouettes 😭😭 ughh so annoying
Now a days kpop is only about visual and fashion i like the artists who are passionate to produce good music but looks like anyone can be kpop idol if they are pretty .
I think the fashion part should be the last part . Everything you said about Blackpink was wrong do more research 🧐. For their brake they went to fashion show and they got more fans and more content like Lisa solo , Rosa solo and we blinks will always support them . BTS do the same thing and no body come for them 💀 4gen need to stop copying Blackpink I can’t wait for baby monster to duet. I Stan baby monster no matter what.❤🎉 Blackpink didn’t lose no fans they got more fans then ever!! Blackpink make the way and they are the problem like what ?? Stop putting blackpink in your videos for clout like blackpink comeback shake kpop and they got a VMA award and more… is not blackpink fault it 4gen kpop is obsessed with then .
Putting Blackpink in vds is the point to gain more views. I come here bc of blackpink😂. U missed the part of Jisoo's drama debut. Jisoo gained a lot of fans from her drama. Bc that vd says many blinks leave bp😂
dude the first point straight up showed blackpink as the bad sister and the 4th gen as their younger sisters following them (using the term sisters as i see no boygroup)
Kpop has just gotten to a point where visuals are everything, many gen 4 idols are closer to being models than singers and performers.. The second one tho.. I wouldn't call child labor "annoying" I've always found it very weird when someone said "I stan x group" and that group haven't even debuted yet, like.. why do you stan them? you don't know anything about the group, they just see their pretty faces and people stan, I'm sick of how shallow kpop stans are and of course none of them will admit to it.. I actually really agree with your last statement
I still remember i stanned ive and forced myself to like them for some reason now i have realized tht their music style is not my taste and stanning in not a competition, this video helped me alot!
Companies instead of training idols to make their skills better are making them model instead Whereas 🤣 lesserafim debuting with a modeling concept rather are more involved in improving their skills well good job hybe 👻
@@jeyneo.8924 Truth, I just noticed that KPop rappers are just copy paste of black in pop and I also notice the rappers in pop are always black and just few white rappers while in KPop it always has rappers; the worst is those "rappers" are just try-hard just like Lisa, and RM's styling of rapping was same as the other black rappers (in my observation) is there something wrong if they are just copied?
That certain group who wants to make music and have expressed their love it numerous times but only their fans know it and others think they lost interest in music .. Sad how people can judge someone without even knowing anything about them..
Blackpink become the BIGGEST GIRL GROUP IN THE WORLD NATUTALLY they worked by trained 6 years, remember when Blackpink debutado Kpop wasnt popular WORLDWIDE and litlle by little Blackpink with any suscribers IN they own RU-vid chanel now is the most fallowed artist in the WORLD 👑 🌍 💕. Companies IN this day FORCES the popularidad of their groups, sometimes with ridiculous actions like AESPA IN Cohachela witouh any stage experience and now NEW JEANS as embassador with 5 month in the music industry,. , they have to let this groups grouw up naturrally, like BLACKPINK QUEENS LEGENDS
why kpop stans nowadays so arrogant as if the fans make money for buy album their faves its been 8 years im fan of kpop ive never buy and streaming just a waste lol
