Top of Class, Monster SCM L'invincible FS 7 Jointer/Planer! 20.5" width, 15hp & 5 sec change over! 

Competition is great. Hopefully we will get more combo machines to jump into the US market. I agree about the L'invincible FS 7, but I am biased

Fantastic stuff indeed! I have the Aigner extension devices and the rails to attach to the J/P, the Shaper and the band saw. I still need to add the rails to the J/P ans the bandsaw.

No rust. I did coat the top with carbon method.

Obviously not true anymore. I purchased through Wurth Lewis and company in Southern California but Sam Blasco from SCM was able to get me info and pricing before that. I do believe that mine is the first in the US.

​@@pkwoodworkingsam blasco is great to deal with

He sure is! @@davidhouchin2353

Thanks Steve! With a 5 second switchover, I should grow old with her!

Colin, I find the quality to be exceptional for the L'invincible and excellent for SCM in general. THe L'invincible line is the top class SCM product, so you should expect better. I feel like the SCM L'invincible is actually a great value when you compare it to Martin and is a bit more than Felder Format 4 products.

Yes, I have another video in the works!

@kazoobmp I ordered 18 months ago and the base price was just under $27k then.

I don't have 3 phase power at my house. I use a phase converter to get three phase.

@@pkwoodworkingwell well well. I had no idea such a technology existed. Good to know! Now I won’t be so hesitant when I see a good used professional tool that has 3 phase required.

I wish I would have taken that advice a few years back...

I agree. Taking the leap of faith with this was a worry as I had no reference in North America. I was more than satisfied when it arrived!

Answered above - list was $28k without options.

Not sure why? The machine came pretty much flawless from SCM.

This is a 3phase Machine. Only made in 3phase.

Thanks justcruisin109! I know I may have rambled a bit, but there just isn't much out there on SCM and L'invincible on RU-vid.

This has a few features that the Dual 51 does not. - I prefer the fit and finish of the FS 7. - The FS 7 has a larger motor @ 15hp. The max for the Dual 51 is 13.5 hp - The air assisted table lift system (There was an electric option for the Dual 51, but I was told this was discontinued)Th - Planer table does not need to be lowered (beyond 25.0mm) to execute the switch over - The Dual 51 has to be lowered to 5" approximately. - The dust collection does not change during the switch ove, so less flexible ducting can be used in a permanent setup. - 5 second change over for the FS 7 vs. approximately a minute for the Dual 51 (could be a few seconds less depending on the height of the planer) - Heavier Machine @ 2350 pounds vs. 1980 pounds - 4" longer bed for the jointer - 520mm vs. 510mm planer width. - Available with a segmented infeed roller. - Quick change outfeed rollers The Dual 51 has some features that are NOT available on the FS 7 - The Dual 51 has fully adjustable speeds vs 4 speeds for the FS 7 - The Dual 51 has an option for a rubber infeed roller - The Dual 51 can be had with a SUVA guard from Felder, the SUVA guard is available for the FS 7 but not through SCM. - The Dual 51 has a bracket that can be ordered to use a power feeder with the jointer. This could be fabricated for the FS 7.

@@pkwoodworking Thank you sooo much for such a detailed response. Very fair description from both manufacturer's point of view. Last question - I am assuming you have a phase converter at your home shop. Which one do you have and what has your experience been?

I have a Phase Perfect PTE010R and it is amazing. It has been flawless! I will be upgrading soon to a larger Phase Perfect because I now have a 3ph Dust Collector and that adds to the 3ph load, I highly recommend Phase Perfect. I chose to mount it outside. This minimizes to noise inside the shop. It is not loud, just a bit buzzy.

@@pkwoodworking thanks for the detailed response again! I’ve been looking into phase converters for some time now and phase perfect does seem to be the leader for this technology. I was looking into getting a 3 phase service set up at my home shop but it just doesn’t seem to make sense financially. On the other hand from what I’ve been reading it seems like the phase perfect actually produces a cleaner and more consistent signal than you would even get from the power company

I agree with the statement about 3ph from Phase Perfect. the tolerance from leg to leg in voltage swings is tight. Many people have no issues with 3ph from the power companies. Others have issues. I believe it comes down to how the power company gets you three phase as there seems to be several ways. I am not an expert on 3ph power, so consult SCM and Phase Perfect!

Thank You Nate D. Time just gets away from ya... So far it's Beauty and the Beast!

Thank you

I asked about the option of two outfeed rollers. Sadly although the brochure was not clear, we found that there was not an option for two outfeed rollers. Only for the S7 planer. So far there has not been an issue of pulling the wood through.

@@pkwoodworking that's a shame. Still a beautiful machine though. I've currently got an older FS410 and I'm thinking about upgrading to a dual51 or FS7 half a year or so from now. Seems like the FS7 is way faster when it comes to the change-over. It's interesting to see that my current machine is actually very similar when it comes to the castings, parallelogram system and cutterblock/roller assembly despite being some 20 years old. I do have to lower the table to 100mm or more and pull the fence all the way forward for change-over. Like you, I'd love to have separate machines (Martin!) but I simply don't have the space

I know this may be controversial, but I think the Nova units are closer relatives, but the base of the FS 7 appears more substantial, and there is a significant weight difference.

Hey! Just watching this again because my eyes are bigger than my wallet😂 (also still financially recovering from my Martin slider) I've been looking at those Aigner extensions as they would be great for my J/P combo as well as the bandsaw, I'd love to see a video on them and hear what you think :)

When I get the machines into the new shop I will do a video and include the Aigner Extensions in it.

Thank you!

Well, You did see it in person...

Thank You

Nico, SCM should be way more covered on RU-vid! It is great stuff.

@@pkwoodworking Totally agree on that! I have a MiniMax cu300c combination machine, a MiniMax me22 edgebander, a MiniMax ad21 line boring machine and my Formula s440p bandsaw should be here in a month. “Albert’s workshop” is a very nice guy who is waiting for a L’Invincibile sliding table saw so I look forward to seeing content on that one soon!

Nico, Albert and I email back and forth quite a bit. He helped push me over the edge to buy this. I have a S640P bandsaw that I found on a auction site that was pretty much brand new. It is a beast, waiting for the new shop!

@@pkwoodworking Looking forward to seeing that new shop! I was going to get the MiniMax s45n but decided to go for the Formula s440p. I then considered the s540p but it wasn’t worth it for me and the footprint was a dealbreaker. I hope I can move to a bigger shop sooner than later and get separate machines and a bigger bandsaw too.

Nico, I didn't intend to get that bandsaw. It just happened... But I always thought that a bigger shop would mean separates for me, but with a 5 second change over, I figure it takes 5 seconds to walk to another machine and turn it on.