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Top Secret Bumble Bee substitute ... 

patfurlan
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after a few years playing around with vintage tone capacitors, this is a simple work around that generates the same harmonic content as a vintage 50's Les Paul harness. elements of the Beano tone, Kossoff and Leslie West tone.... jump right out of the guitar... watch for a more detailed video to come... Guitar is a beat up mahogany PRS, pickups are Motor City Blackbelt II, volume is a 500k Dimarzio (proper taper) and a cts 500k tone ... Mojo PIO .02 cap and three small value selected inductors... I won't share the values but those willing to experiment will be rewarded :) amp is a Vox ac4 into the shop 4-12 .... no actual Gibson parts vintage or otherwise were used ...

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@pastamatt
@pastamatt 3 года назад
Hey Pat, thanks for sharing. This is fascinating. I definitely want to try it. I did try a bunch of different old 60s and 70s caps in my guitar but had no bumblebees to try. Anyways, what this makes me think about is the filter controls on the Dumble Steel String Singer. Someone's version shows a 0,5 H inductor right before signal feeds to the high and low step filter circuitry. Consensus on a forum seemed to suggest that it accomplished nothing and can be skipped... which I did on my build... but now I wonder...
@patfurlan
@patfurlan 3 года назад
I have tested them in amps and found some tones :)
@kengevers8738
@kengevers8738 3 года назад
Hey Pat, I can't believe the tone of that guitar. Hmm, it just has that PAF sound, to me. Mind you, this is on my cell phone. Cheers
@patfurlan
@patfurlan 3 года назад
Ha yes that is it and subject of our next video
@alexandrepalet9601
@alexandrepalet9601 3 года назад
Hi! Thanks so much for this useful info! I just would like to know if there’s a certain value that can be dangerous. Like I don’t want to feel the electricity in my fingers :) Sorry for the dumb question, but I dont know anything about electromagnetism... thanks again!!
@patfurlan
@patfurlan 3 года назад
there is nothing that can hurt you ...I often solder guitar wiring with the test amp plugged in and poke at the live circuit all the time ...inside the amp is another story ...
@voxpathfinder15r
@voxpathfinder15r 3 года назад
So bumblebee capacitors have a larger amount of inductance than modern made capacitors? Have you tried wiring the vitamin T cap in reverse? I had really good luck doing that.
@patfurlan
@patfurlan 3 года назад
that was my assumption and I believe this video demonstrates that
@voxpathfinder15r
@voxpathfinder15r 3 года назад
@@patfurlan when I was in college, we did this one experiment in lab and used phasor diagrams along with oscilloscopes and we would map out the resistance, capacitance and inductance of a circuit element under test. I bet if you sent one of those bumble bees, I could quantify what is really going on and make a video on it. I wonder if wiring a pio mojotone capacitor introduces inductance when wired backwards, because the shielding is no longer grounded
@patfurlan
@patfurlan 3 года назад
@@voxpathfinder15r I have rounded up a good quantity of Bumble bees ... they are more complex than what the inductor does ...the knee above the switch on Frequency is more gradual and the inductance of my latest samples reflects a lot of high frequencies ... the result is an extremely focused mid cut when you dial back the tone cleaning up the signal ...that mid cut also shifts as you adjust the volume .... I am learning a lot more about vintage Les Paul Volume & Tone Controls ...new video eventually!
@voxpathfinder15r
@voxpathfinder15r 3 года назад
@@patfurlan looking forward to the new video
@ALBERTOGARCIA-nk9bo
@ALBERTOGARCIA-nk9bo 2 года назад
Hello. I have a pair of Mojotone PIO but I cant see where it shows the correct and reverse install of it?
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 3 года назад
Nice. Can you list the inductor value?
@patfurlan
@patfurlan 3 года назад
Give a man a fish, and feed him for one day ... teach him how to fish and .... experimenting with values is the way to discover interesting things
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 3 года назад
@@patfurlan I'm well aware of the fish proverb. A simple, "try several values to find the tone you like" would have been sufficient.
@patfurlan
@patfurlan 3 года назад
@@Slugg-O using your name instead of sluggOmatic ...would have also been sufficient :)
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 3 года назад
@@patfurlan Yeah. When I created my account many, many years ago I didn't want to use my real name. I had binge watched some old SNL featuring skits with Sluggo, Mr. Bill, and also a Bass-O-Matic. I mashed them together and never changed.
@glennbeeler3312
@glennbeeler3312 3 года назад
what values of components are involved with this?
@patfurlan
@patfurlan 3 года назад
Motor city Blackbet II pickups, 500k dimarzio volume, 500k cts tone, Mojo PIO .022 cap + 3 inductors ... in and out of the cap + 1 to act as a treble bleed
@voxpathfinder15r
@voxpathfinder15r 3 года назад
@@patfurlan wiring an inductor is the reverse of a capacitor, right? Like if you want a high pass filter with an inductor - you wire it like you would wire a capacitor in low pass filter and Vice versa.
@joncurrier2269
@joncurrier2269 3 года назад
Can you give details on the inductors?
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