TOP THRILL 2 Cedar Point's Biggest Mistake 

people need to really chill the fuck out. Its a new ride, all new rides go through shit. This ride can be fixed and run for next decade with no major issues we just dont know. In 5 years if the ride is always down, has had major issues then yeah its a failure and a disaster but people jumping on that shit now are doing it for clicks and views.

Just give it time, I think a lot of people are just speaking way too soon on this. It’s Zamperla’s first big coaster so this isn’t all too surprising. I’m sure Cedar Fair expected and anticipated this risk

If you'll recall, the Hubble space telescope was regarded by many to be an expensive failure. Then it was repaired. It has been sending us astonishing views of the universe for decades ever since.

Honestly Cedar Point took a risk, but it was because they saw they were working on their coaster division to be up there with Intamin and other big coaster manufacturers. They have indeed worked with them in the past with flat rides and kiddie coasters. I wouldn’t say they went cheap. But honestly, I am not surprised much, as it is their first ever big coaster and it can have issues. Let’s not talk about how many issues Dragster had before. This is mainly the reason why manufactures get good in the first place, they learn. Even Intamin learned overtime from problems.

I hate to say it I got 5 rides on this and once it’s back up and running no one’s going to say anything bad the spike is amazing the overall ride is amazing just gotta wait and see if they get it back up and going this summer

I hear the topic of parks' relationship with manufacturers come up a lot, and I think it's bogus. I seriously doubt park executives blacklist manufacturers because of one ride that caused problems, especially not intamin considering all they've done for CP. The park took a massive risk with TTD, and they had 2 decades of opportunities to stop living with it but chose to keep it. And they knew the risk they were taking helping zamperla get into the big leagues. They're not dummies, they signed that contract for a reason, and they aren't regretting it just because their new prototype ride developed an issue (like they do) and zamperla was swift to act. The thing's already back on the track for frick's sake. Also, parks don't just lose the company's number after they've installed a ride; they have to work together on after-market care for the duration of the ride's life. I also don't buy that a botched opening has any stain on the park's reputation. By this time next year, nobody will care that top thrill 2 ruined summer. Ambulance chasing is the coaster enthusiast community's bread and butter.

I would like to mention, at coastermania, one of the higherups mentioned to a smaller group that they tried to fix the ride with intamin, but nothing ever materialized from those talks.

Great video. It was nice getting to meet you at The roller coaster rodeo last week!

It is hard to say Coastermania is a waste since they still have RMC Meanstreak. After that conversion, I said they would get a pass on future mistakes. Boldman is really testing me, but the trip to Cedar Point is still worth it.

If this was six flags people would be outraged and suing them.

I can’t understand people blaming Intamin for the accident that happened. I’ll ask everyone, would you go with a company that has no experience with building this type of coaster? Obviously, TT2 is going to open again. Will it have more problems in the years to come? Yep!

Why do people keep saying use Intamin? Did we not witness 20 years of maintenance nightmares with Dragster?😂

It seems to be all about the new lightning trains and their debut on this biggest in the world attraction. They look to have a very high center of gravity, and perhaps they are imposing some higher than or unanticipated stress with operation. Zamperla seemed to be a wild card in this situation. Perhaps it is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It runs a few days.... Has severe metal fatigue and wheel bogey failure......remains shut down for weeks. Zamperla. You get the lowest bid, you get what you paid for. They never built a ride over approx 150 feet. Cedar should have stuck with Intamin. Its like Elvis at the Vegas International. You cant put a price on a huge attraction because its what draws everyone in. Yet Cedar claims its worst investment. An Elvis type attraction is NOT a failure.

I wouldn't have reimagined Dragster in the first place (my top choice would've been an RMC T-Rex to take the height record). At least, not with resemblance to the original. If I had to keep the top hat I would've had Gerslauer do it as an infinity coaster and turned going up the top hat into a vertical lift and put in a full layout. That full layout would include the world's tallest inversion (especially intimidating with lapbar only), several airtime moments, and extend onto the plots of Corkscrew and Power Tower, both of which would be removed. The top hat, in addition to being utilised as the lift and drop for this coaster, would feature a drop tower and an observation point. That's how I would've "reimagined" Dragster. Something nothing like it that pays omage to it by reusing the physical structure and track of the top hat. Grant it I was never a big fan of the original and I doubt I'd be a fan of TT2 as both are gimmicky junk without substance but that's what I would've done if I were in charge and had to keep the top hat.

CF’s blacklisting of Intamin is mind boggling. They have been doing so well recently, with coasters like Toutatis, Pantheon, and Velocicoaster. CF will not make it up to the coaster mania ticket holders, we know they won’t.

That's assuming that LSMs have the ability to launch the 120mph every time without the swing . The speed gained coming down the spike helps make the 120 possible. I was on it 9x and loved it and looking forward to the reopen. I think even B&M and Mack would have run into issues with the speed and dynamics.

Ryan the Ridemechanic said this exact problem could also be happening with any other manufacturer. He even said for Falcons Flight: Intamin, take notes.

You failed to mention the fact they changed manufacturers because the previous manufacturer almost put someone in the grave. This is the most monotone and sad video I've seen about this. This coaster is great. Crybaby

I think it will be fine once they get the wheel bogies figured out

First and foremost, they need to take their time and make sure it's safe above all things before reopening it to the public! Safety is paramount and should be priority one! Second I agree with everything you said, if this 15 million dollar gamble fails with Zamperla, both will suffer heavily from this! Cedar Point in lost revenue and their status as a place to flock to, and Zamperla because they will have have failed to show they can go real big with the big boys (i. e. Intamin, B & M, etc.)!

Dragster was closed its first year of CoasterMania too nothing new

Cedar Point cheaped out. Simple as that. They’ve prob already lost the money that they thought they were saving by going with Zamperla over Intamin

The problem isn't so much with the manufacturer...instead the problem is with the concept for the ride from the very beginning back in 2002/2003. Intamin had relatively no problem with the smaller scale hydraulic launched coasters they'd previously built but when they,along with this particular park decided to supersize the original concept....that is when they ran into problems. We've essentially pushed Rollercoasters to their limits around that time especially because doing so required an alternative to a chain or cable lift in order to bring the train up to it's highest point. The current problem they're having now is with the wheels on the trains simply being unable to tolerate the extreme forces especially when it comes to friction causing the wheel surface to overheat and crack. There's probably no solution to this specific problem because even polyurethane technology is not without it's limitations. Unfortunately this particular park has built itself around pandering to enthusiasts as a result of all the free publicity they got in the late 90s and early 2000s by being featured on all those discovery Channel amusement park programs and management there is deathly afraid of upsetting the spoiled brat enthusiasts if they dare to remove any attraction in the park. Had that accident happened at any other park you can bet dollars to donuts that the ride in question would have been removed immediately as trying to pander to any special interest group would be not be worth the negative publicity that such an accident would receive. The park should have removed the attraction and replaced it with a safer,.ore reliable attraction instead of continuing to throw money into trying to fix a problematic attraction that odds are cannot be fixed at all. I mean look at what KD did with volcano? That ride was plagued with mechanical issues even before it first opened to the public and both the park and cedar fair got tired of fixing it. Sure spoiled brat enthusiasts whined and complained about it being removed but guess what? The park survived just fine and npw a newer more reliable attraction is replacing it.

I am hoping that Top Thrill 2 reopens in early July ! I am going up to Cedar point on July 11th And I'm hoping to be able to ride on Top Thrill 2 when im there !!!!!!! I'll be disappointed if I can't ride it !!!!!!

Cedar Point is slowly running out of manufacturers

Very good thoughts on TT2.

This roller coaster is more unbalance than the Lakers when they got Dennis Rodman 😩

Cedar Fair is killing themselves..The wont work with Intamin because they wanted 1 off prototype rollercoasters built issue free..Its true Zamperla's staff is full of ex-Intiman people but these people are from the era intiman rides were riddled with issues..Ive said from day 1 picking Zamperla was a mistake however it is a new ride and issues are almost a given. They did a great job overall. The history of this ride is rocky,they shoukd have used intiman or went with B&Ms proposal which was rumored to involve a giga in its place...Too late now,this guarantees the park wont see a new ground up coaster for years

I think the only mistake is the manufacturer. It looks amazing when it runs…

Great video !!! All very true !

Dude it’s a new ride it’s gonna have kinks to work out

No I don't think they should of hired Zamperla!!!

Since being landlocked and Top Thrill Dragster were Cedar Point's biggest problems they should have killed 2 birds with one stone and scrapped it. They could fit so many rides there. That plot could easily hold multiple coasters and flats while opening up new paths.... I really couldn't believe it when they said Zamperla was going to fix it...

I am going June 11 so sad it won’t be open 😢

Okay, and I'll assume you think Hyperia was a mistake too?

Is it safe to ride?

Lol the former President was like it was a big mistake and intamin was the manufacturer. Yet you complain about Zamperla. Maybe they didn’t want intamin to make another mistake.

You get what you pay for, Zamperla obviously isn't getting to the bottom of the situation very quick and the park is not giving much update info because it could affect business. I do not think it is fair to customers .

This seems like it should be a parody video for overreactions lol are you kidding me dude? You are making some serious assumptions based on very little time so far... The worst decision of Cedar Point's history like for real dude?

Woah 😳

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The mistake was not having Intamin do it.

Shouldaaaaaa called Intamin!

Top thrill dragster closed top thrill 2 closed top thrill 3 open lol

I hope this is closed for as long as possible