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@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 2 года назад
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@KFP_Fanboy
@KFP_Fanboy 2 года назад
kung fu panda is better than marvel and dc
@-Nerd1287
@-Nerd1287 2 года назад
Can you stop titling your theory videos with the phrase “Film Theory” because that is a name of another pretty big theory that you know of which is, “Film Theory” otherwise ulyour theory was good.
@Jay-ate-a-bug
@Jay-ate-a-bug 2 года назад
You cannot compare the Spider-verse (a real thing from the comics) with the Multi-verse; they work on completely different rules and can only be manipulated by versions of Spider-man. Thus 3 different Peter Parkers.
@randyr1373
@randyr1373 2 года назад
Yes he
@kentbark7410
@kentbark7410 2 года назад
wanda isn't that powerful.....without the power boost from the books or the temple...wanda is just normal......think of jean grey x-men........without the phoenix jean grey is normal......with the phoenix she is the most powerful being in the multiverse
@Transcinephile
@Transcinephile 2 года назад
It's possible that she had dreams of having a family before wandavision, saw her children and house from another universe, and used both as a basis when creating them in wandavision
@MiloMurphysLaw
@MiloMurphysLaw 2 года назад
I think that’s the real explanation. Although it still doesn’t answer who the father of the kids is in all the other universes. Especially if Vision doesn’t exist because Ultron was successful
@DavidAmrod
@DavidAmrod 2 года назад
@@MiloMurphysLaw read Steve Mayne below. Way better than mine!
@sayanibasak6204
@sayanibasak6204 2 года назад
It's not possible cause the sacred timeline broke at the end of Wanda vision, so she couldn't have dreamt about it before that
@amrodentertainment940
@amrodentertainment940 2 года назад
@@sayanibasak6204 People were dreaming of other realities before the timeline broke. If a reality did not disturb the sacred timeline, it was allowed to exist.
@sayanibasak6204
@sayanibasak6204 2 года назад
@@amrodentertainment940 but if there was no multiverse, how could one dream of other reality Even Dr. Strange was shocked to learn or get a hint of the existence of other realities (multiverse) in spiderman no way home I don't think she was dreaming of other realities, she just wanted to have a normal life and family with Vision all along Another evidence is that Vision and Wanda were arguing about what to name their child, Billy or Tommy, and she said in reply that there is only one way to solve this, hope for a girl She was also unaware that they were going to have twins while giving birth I don't think she dreamt of her kids, but her wish to have a normal life with Vision that she never had
@Civilian08
@Civilian08 2 года назад
I just figured that they are the children of her dreams, literally. She says she dreams about them every night, and that dreams are glimpses into other universes. I figured they aren't the children of Wanda and Vision, but Wanda and someone else, and Wanda imagined a life with them where Vision was their father based on seeing them in her dreams.
@AWindy94
@AWindy94 2 года назад
This is pretty much how it is in the comics
@andscifi
@andscifi 2 года назад
It also explains why the house looks the same. And the reason that the kids are so perfect is that Wanda was looking for the perfect version of her life and with enough different realities she'd find one that was exactly what she wanted.
@fiascorner
@fiascorner 2 года назад
:ooo makes sense. the hex version of her sons have powers. but the children from the other universe were scared of the scarlet witch. if they have powers, they wouldve fought her but they didn't.
@andrewcronbach1168
@andrewcronbach1168 2 года назад
I agree with OC, this is just a plain vanilla wanda with kids who our wanda's dreams use as a template for her dream life. We see that vision wasn't killed by thanos because dead thanos in the flashback doesn't have the mind stone so wanda has no need to grieve and create the hex. Vision probably doesn't exist in that universe either because we see that ultron exists as a peacekeeping programme which means it probably never went rogue and tried to create a perfect body.
@bicokun
@bicokun 2 года назад
It would be amusing if they made Wonder Man the father, given that he was the psychological template for Vision in the comics.
@Orson_Welp
@Orson_Welp 2 года назад
Y'all ever notice that Wanda's villain arc in this movie is extremely similar to Kingpin in Spiderverse? >Loses family >Tries to access the multiverse to get them back >Exposes awful actions to other universe family >Family rejects antagonist
@danielbristol8891
@danielbristol8891 2 года назад
Woah, that’s kind cool
@evab0beva
@evab0beva 2 года назад
oh wow i didn’t catch that but you’re 100% right
@CyGea
@CyGea 2 года назад
616 Wanda didn’t meet the father of her children. She dreamed of the children she had in other universes. These other universe children are now over 10 years old. So when 616 Wanda created her children, she used the children she had been dreaming about for ten years, as her blueprint in her hex. I think the boys’ real father in other universes will be Simon Williams.
@dmoody4628
@dmoody4628 2 года назад
Good point
@pawned79
@pawned79 2 года назад
You said “her brother still dies.” Why does her brother still die? I thought he was killed in the Ultron movie. If the Ultron incident didn’t happen, and Vision was not created, then why is it assumed her brother is dead? Did she say her brother was dead? Did she have a memorial to him in her house that I didn’t catch?
@seanmartin2000
@seanmartin2000 2 года назад
If I remember correctly, when Billy and Tommy are introduced in the comics, they actually don't know they that they are Wanda's children. In fact, I believe they also don't know they are brothers. Anyway, if that's the case, I could see Marvel reintroducing them in a few years as older versions of the characters that don't know their mom is Wanda, or that their related. This would allow them to be around the same age as the rest of the Young Avengers when Marvel ultimately chooses to do that project, while also giving them a mystery that they have to solve once they figure out who they are. Enough time will also have passed so the sudden age increase might not seem too sudden to general audiences.
@cameronhodgetts920
@cameronhodgetts920 2 года назад
Here's a crazy prediction - 838 Wanda didn't create the Hex because of the death of her lover Vision, but because of the death of her father Magneto. After all, the yellow hover chair seems to suggest that 838 is the universe where X-Men '97 takes place.
@paulinexong
@paulinexong 2 года назад
I like this one
@evab0beva
@evab0beva 2 года назад
ooh good catch
@anarchus784
@anarchus784 2 года назад
I was thinking, they only said the book of Ashanti gives you what you need to win vs a threat, so when Dr Strange touched it, it sets up the chain of events to get what he needed, i.e. be evil etc, this could reveal at a much later time in phase 4
@ked49
@ked49 2 года назад
He gained a lazer by touching it. And saw America’s page
@Jay-ate-a-bug
@Jay-ate-a-bug 2 года назад
Things to remember: Dreaming shows us alternate realities. All it takes is one Universe within the multiverse existing where Billy and Tommy are real and the rest of the Wandas can dream of her children and subconsciously insert them into her fantasy-world. You are welcome.
@ammaranwar5343
@ammaranwar5343 2 года назад
That's a good explanation but you shouldn't have to be the one explaining this. The writers of this movie got paid to make it clear, but didn't even bother!
@Jay-ate-a-bug
@Jay-ate-a-bug 2 года назад
@@ammaranwar5343 There is a fine line between providing a clear explanation and being too expository. The MCU is mediocre at both.
@avennui
@avennui 2 года назад
Seems more likely that If dreaming gives one insight into one's other universal selves then Wanda must have surely dreamt of her twins - and when she manifested them on earth-616 it's because she could have subconsciously experienced them - same for that Wanda's awareness of our Wanda's trauma and therefore she empathizes with her even more than she already would have. Nobody is aware of a hex in the other universe and that Wanda doesn't become the scarlet witch - Wanda is looking for a universe where her kids exist/ are REAL - vision doesn't even have to be their father. And to be honest those children are annoying - eating the batter right after she says don't and fighting over who sings the ice cream song etc.
@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201
@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 2 года назад
I thought they were kinda adorable, eating the batter anyway is something kids just do although they really shouldn't. It seems like Billy has similar powers to Wanda's in the TV show, so maybe they were using some of that to convince her while singing the song?
@matt-thorn
@matt-thorn 2 года назад
I don't buy the hex. If it was one Scarlet witch would just make her kids again, but overall she does seem to realize her first hex was a problem. It's unlikely she would go through all this trouble just to settle for an illusion, an illusion she could very well make herself.
@charleslee8313
@charleslee8313 2 года назад
I can't recall who brought it up, but... Mordo still has the Eye of Agamotto, meaning it has the Time Stone in it, so he could reverse the DEVASTATING damage that Scarlet Witch did, meaning the Illuminati are still alive in Universe 838.
@sixty9cuda894
@sixty9cuda894 2 года назад
I don’t recall seeing the stone, though. Dr. Strange still has the Eye of Agamotto as well, but we know he doesn’t have the time stone.
@blak4831
@blak4831 2 года назад
@@sixty9cuda894 Yeah, the fact that Strange keeps the Eye around implies that it does more than just hold and manipulate the Time Stone. I don't recall exactly, but I vaguely remember seeing him use it at one point even without the stone in it. Even more, there's no reason to assume that the Eye had the Time Stone in it in every universe.
@marthashepley
@marthashepley 2 года назад
I really feel like we’re gonna get another “civil war”-esk plot. Cause dr strange definitely feels like he should be leading the avengers. However, Sam is captain america so by title, he should be. Which is really reminiscent of Tony vs Steve, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out further down the line. I don’t think it would be a whole movie like civil war was, but possibly a plot line in whatever the next crossover movie is
@erikagholston6610
@erikagholston6610 2 года назад
I think we will see more of Wanda. She brings too much to the story to go away.
@christophershowalter1689
@christophershowalter1689 2 года назад
Can you do a video about what’s up with the Tony Stark/Iron Man storyline? We got just a bit of closure in Spider-Man: FFH, but I think they’re intentionally leaving that storyline in the dark
@xero1048
@xero1048 2 года назад
Here’s something I only just theorised. Wanda/scarlet witch is the embodiment of the dark hold, while America chavez is the embodiment of the book of vishanti. Think about it, there’s a dark hold in every universe, just as the scarlet witch is a nexus being who exists in every universe. The book of vishanti is a one of a kind in the multiverse, just like America chavez. Her powers also appeared in the book when it was damaged, so she already has a link to it.
@0dwin
@0dwin 2 года назад
My take: First, Power level differences of Wanda is Darkhold and grief. Second, If dreams are different universes and we subconsciously tap into them, the boys could be real and the original bases for the ones in Wandavision. Third J.A.V.I.S. persona was partially based on the real butler of Howard stark. Here me out. What if vision was a human descendant that universe and fell in love with Wanda they were about to have the twins when Avenger base fell on his head in endgame? Wanda still creates a hex but the kids are real and the bases of all other hex children. Which also would make them nexus beings themselves. If their were more of them in the multiverse wouldn't Wanda just go after a set that lost their parents? Loved the video.
@blak4831
@blak4831 2 года назад
She can't go after a set that lost their parents, because she can only see universe where she's alive to see dreams from. While it's *possible* she could have possessed her corpse and then scoped out from there, its also clear that the Darkhold is actively playing into her grief and warping her mind. The thought to even *try* and find a universe where her kids were orphaned wouldn't have even crossed her mind
@khodexus4963
@khodexus4963 Год назад
I still think it was a mistake not to get Eric Bana to play Bruce Banner, and have a variant Tony Stark played by someone like Tom Cruise instead of the alternate Captain Marvel in the Illuminati. Would have reinforced the idea that sometimes people's variants do look different. They also should have had at least one Doctor Strange variant played by another actor. Maybe even someone else from the MCU like Robert Downey Jr.
@mr.fluffyface431
@mr.fluffyface431 2 года назад
You seem to have forgotten something very important that destroys this whole theory: Wanda was only able to create the Hex BECAUSE she's the Scarlet Witch. so if our wanda is the only scarlet witch, then our Hex is the only Hex. Other Wanda's Vision is jusst a human in her universe, and her kids are real. They are just extra cheesy because its a Sam Raimi movie.
@Madillusionist
@Madillusionist 2 года назад
This is so interesting, as having watched everything everywhere all at once. They actually went with a similar idea that with infinite possibilities and universes, you have every variant of the same person but with slightly different potential, where essentially you can put them on a scale of personal potential of 0 to 100. So by that logic The Scarlet Witch title is only given to the Wanda of our universe who is at her 100% potential.
@AnythingGeeky
@AnythingGeeky 2 года назад
Just give Wanda a happy ending... please! For the love of Pete
@adamrabe3105
@adamrabe3105 2 года назад
Still wished that Tony Stark would have shown up (aka Tom Cruise Tony Stark) or possibly even Namor (which would have been a really big long shot). However, will the MCU completely side-step the true origin of Scarlet Witch and Quiksilver with Magneto as their father? Or do they try to ret-con that in later.
@LeoChaseTheMythMaster
@LeoChaseTheMythMaster Год назад
How I kind of see it is that our Wanda made the twins how they were because she dreamed about them from another universe. Also if Ultron didn't go evil, Quicksilver probably wouldn't have died and the twins could be a result of Wanda getting together with someone else who was away away the time of the movie.
@Huebz
@Huebz 2 года назад
You know Billy and Tommy are real in various other universes because Wanda very clearly explains just that to Doctor Strange. She doesn’t have kids.m, but other Wanda’s do. Hard to say for certain if these exact ones are since it was a universe they crash landed into but we know there are real variants.
@Macoronicheese69
@Macoronicheese69 Год назад
5:50 Vision had a “tool” even the creator said its purple😨
@Olimar92
@Olimar92 2 года назад
Strange only said the kids never existed in their universe. There is a possibility of people existing in some universes and not others. Just look at Vision, he doesn't exist if Ultron works properly. Alternate Wanda could of had a different life, and she isn't the Scarlet Witch either. It's not impossible that a couple of kids are just being nice to try and get an extra scoop of ice cream before bed. It's also not a constant that Strange doesn't get married. America asks if he is, which would mean she's met a Dr. Strange who was. She's been to like 70 universes, even the one where everyone is paint. There's also the universe where Wolverine is dating Hercules, and his skeleton is coated in Adamintine instead of Adamantium. Or the Universe where Tony Stark is a women and marries Capt. America. The possibility that Wanda actually has children in the infinite span of the Multiverse, isn't crazy. Remember 616 Wanda wanted to go to the other universe and replace the other Wanda. If it was just another Hex, what would be the point?
@RAMavy
@RAMavy 2 года назад
I think the issue with Billy and Tommy existing in other universes is that we're assuming that Westview in 616 is where they originated. Who's to say Wanda wasn't inspired to create them that way in 616 because of a dream she had?
@Nofxthepirate
@Nofxthepirate 2 года назад
If you look closely when the castle is crumbling, there's a flash of red in the rubble. Considering Wanda has the same powers of transportation that other mystics do, it's entirely possible that the red flash was her escaping at the last moment. The only other option I can see is that it was some kind of explosion that was triggered when she died.
@sorcerersupremekoby
@sorcerersupremekoby 2 года назад
you guys are brilliant like fr it’s kinda insane
@horsecj1
@horsecj1 2 года назад
Thanos's attack wasn't innevitable though "what if" had a universe where tchalla talked him out of his plan
@nickmoney
@nickmoney 2 года назад
If you do back to Wandavision, Agatha was manipulating most of what was in the hex including Billy and Tommy. So probably Agatha knew what Wanda had in other multiverses and went off that.
@RyanHaney55
@RyanHaney55 2 года назад
With the Ultron bots working for the good guys in 838, I don't think Vision was created at all, there.
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 2 года назад
If the Billy and Tommy are part of a hex made by that universe's Wanda, then why do we assume that hex is the same as the one in the main MCU? Perhaps without the loss (or presence) of Vision, she was more controlled in creating her hex and it was limited to just their house.
@myfimap2368
@myfimap2368 2 года назад
Whether or not there's another hex, Wanda-616 has stolen Agatha-616's powers (who stole other witches' powers) and has had an unspecified amount of time studying the Darkhold (and potentially stealing the powers of other beings a la Dark Strange during What if...?). That alone explains why she's so much more powerful than the other Wanda. She doesn't necessarily need to be a nexus being if she's further along in her development.
@ZawnDawn
@ZawnDawn 2 года назад
In the begining of Infinity war tony tells pepper about a dream where he saw morgan
@bigbillhammond
@bigbillhammond 2 года назад
OMG What if Reed Richards is the father to Wanda's children 😳
@evvieboi4745
@evvieboi4745 2 года назад
If Reed would’ve pulled out a wooden gun he would’ve won
@stormaurora189
@stormaurora189 2 года назад
I don't think the Hex existed in any universe outside of the 616 universe because Wanda just isn't powerful enough to make it in any other universe. Agatha was only tipped off that Wanda might be the Scarlet Witch after she created the Hex, implying that it's powerful reality-bending magic that only the Scarlet Witch could pull off. And like you said, Wanda is the only Scarlet Witch in the multiverse. So every Wanda that *isn't* the Scarlet Witch wouldn't be strong enough to literally warp reality in an entire town and trap everyone inside.
@jorgitosilva
@jorgitosilva 2 года назад
Wanda just saw the house and kids in her dreams (them being a window to a different universe were the kids did exist as we were told dreams work in this movie) and then that is why 616 Wanda created those specific kids inside the hex, she already had a reference before the hex happened... that way vision also makes no difference since vision didn't have a say in that genetic pool...
@dylanwatts9344
@dylanwatts9344 2 года назад
14:55 ...Captain Marvel died due to a much smaller statue being dropped on her... After being thrown threw a stone wall. There is no guarantee that Wanda is alive as the writers decided the most mundane attacks can kill one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel.
@matthewbenson1873
@matthewbenson1873 2 года назад
If there is a paint dimension is there also a dimension where everything runs like a windows computer... if so if its its xp hoping there will probably still be pre ironman
@foreseengust
@foreseengust 2 года назад
It was made pretty clear in the movie that Wanda in all the other universes had the boys for real. She dreamt about them and created them in her hex in our universe.
@jena5884
@jena5884 2 года назад
I didn't quite catch it but when yhe illuminati are fighting scarlet witch I thought they called her Miss something and that the so.ething hadn't been long enough to be Maximoff. Did anyone catch what that was and if so does that give any clues regarding that universes Wanda?
@vinny2610
@vinny2610 2 года назад
I definitely think that Wanda is still alive- maybe she made a shield for herself and that was the red thing we saw
@matheusmarques5368
@matheusmarques5368 2 года назад
But there's a problem... Without the power of the Scarlet Witch, Wanda can't make other haxes. If there was another haxe then that Wanda would have to be a Scarlet Witch too. With that said, the Scarlet Witch is truly a nexus being
@no1phantom
@no1phantom 2 года назад
A nexus being is a being that exists in every universe.
@bluezendragao1440
@bluezendragao1440 2 года назад
Why would Wanda want America’s powers to make sure she could get the cure of any disease if her kids got sick if they weren’t real.
@kc11988
@kc11988 2 года назад
If all the other Kids are also created by Hex, why doesn't Wanda (scarlet witch) just make another Hex? Why take the kids created by hex from another Wanda, when her powers should be way stronger than any other Wandas.
@AJJohnson_86
@AJJohnson_86 2 года назад
it seems necessary to state that while Ultron was made by tony and Bruce. vision was made by Ultron. not out of necessity to stop Ultron but as his "final form". so if Ultron was made in a way were he was never corrupted/evil then he would have never made vision as he wouldn't have the potential of that idea to begin with. also John Krasinski is rumored to be playing reed richards in the 2024 fantastic 4 movie. i know how marvel rumors go but its on his imdb so...
@zekethewise7042
@zekethewise7042 2 года назад
I think that Wanda made a deal with mophisto that’s why billy and tommy don’t need no hex
@matsujonen
@matsujonen 2 года назад
I just find it funny no one is talking about how Marvel spoiled the movie by calling it Dr. Strange : Mom
@JamesLawner
@JamesLawner 2 года назад
I don’t think there’s any proof that 838!Wanda made a hex of her own. Also, why didn’t 616!Wanda look for her brother too?
@brantjustilian3791
@brantjustilian3791 2 года назад
Two questions. We’re is white vision? And How are they going make Wanda’s kids real with no demon or other supernatural entity of the Marvel comics.
@Nanalagoon
@Nanalagoon 2 года назад
Are Billy and Tommy mutants / the inclusion of the X-Men in the MCU? Would the story of the X-Men still work in the MCU tho if other people w/powers, gods, etc. aren't hated like the X-Men are in the comics?
@BrockSamsonite
@BrockSamsonite 2 года назад
Hey brother! Actually you're wrong about Wanda not ebing able to have children with vision, there is moment in the comics story when vision basically explained how it was possible for him and Wanda to procreate because he can "change his density"
@caterinaferrera8250
@caterinaferrera8250 2 года назад
If Vision is in the illuminati universe than he might still be alive since we see Thanos is dead on Titan without the time or mind stone.
@scigames
@scigames 2 года назад
can we just take a second to comember that wand made a illusion all around her house that the trees wooer real
@rileyinnes5406
@rileyinnes5406 2 года назад
Agatha said in Wanda Vision that a spell can not be changed once cast. Perhaps in this new universe Wanda cast the hex spell correctly and warped reality permanently
@AWindy94
@AWindy94 2 года назад
The comics go into the technicality of their realtion. They are actually Wanda's kids in an alternate universe from the 616.
@matheusd.rodrigues429
@matheusd.rodrigues429 2 года назад
Wanda 616 lost her Brother to Ultron, if Ultron never rebelled then she would not lose her brother in the illuminatti universe
@jasonlindsay2082
@jasonlindsay2082 2 года назад
I'm late but in the 838, Thanos never got the time stone or the mind stone so Vision was never killed. So the plot of land he bought they were able to move to and build a family. Vision has human dna and its the mcu.
@krisgonynor689
@krisgonynor689 2 года назад
Why would Wanda's brother Pietro be dead? Ultron turned out okay, there wouldn't have been a battle of Sokova, so he should be alive and well - unless he died fighting Thanos. In which case, or in the case of our Wanda (Earth 616) why didn't she name one of her sons after he dead brother and the other after her father? She's not American, so why choose American names? Or Americanized names of her family's names if she wanted them to fit in better in small town America? A cameo of Uncle Pietro would have been nice to see. Then there is the question of Ultron in our 616-verse: he was going to wipe out all of humanity. Where were the eternals - they were there to protect humanity until there were enough of us to feed the baby Eternal at earth's core. Wiping out half of us, like Thanos wanted to do, would have just set that goal back a century or so. Wiping out ALL humans would have stopped it altogether - so the Eternals should have stopped Ultron, maybe behind the scenes as not to be caught, but still, at least help the Avengers.
@MrJuliandey1
@MrJuliandey1 2 года назад
who was the girl that opened a rift at the end of the credits?
@carsonlake3842
@carsonlake3842 2 года назад
The real question is this, did Sam Raimi even watch WandaVision? I think not
@amandalee3894
@amandalee3894 2 года назад
I rushed to this video the second I got home from the movie
@musakamara4157
@musakamara4157 2 года назад
It's so dismissive to say her kids in the hex weren't real when it's stated several times that they are. There existence was just tied to the hex's reality like ours is tied to our home reality. Apparently it a reality collapses all the people in it disappear with it, like what happened with the hex and those created in it. Her power is creation. She cheated those kids, as in they existed and are real. When people say her fake kids it feels like a dismissal of her grief, she had to kill her kids - of course she would be upset. I guess the darkhold just used that to control her or something.
@grant9637
@grant9637 2 года назад
I likeyour draccus plush
@davidhimself9556
@davidhimself9556 2 года назад
I know one thing for sure, wanda IS NOT dead.
@natachaortiz8176
@natachaortiz8176 2 года назад
My question is if Dr. Strange had looked into the multiverse before to search for a timeline in which they defeated Thanos why didn't he see that he had defeated him in the other universe. Is it cuz he died... isn't that that self serving... he rathered Tony die.
@gabriellaayavoro6070
@gabriellaayavoro6070 2 года назад
But why would Wanda travel to another universe where her children isn't real when she could've just created another hex?
@gabriellaayavoro6070
@gabriellaayavoro6070 2 года назад
Also her reality warping is because of her chaos magic that's only for the scarlet witch who is the only scarlet witch. If 838 Wanda created the hex using her chaos magic then she isn't really a nexus being.
@blackbirdrose6871
@blackbirdrose6871 2 года назад
Sorry guys but I’m pretty sure they directly stated that while Wanda made up her kids in 616, in every other universe her kids were real. Otherwise it wouldn’t make sense for her to kill other Wanda because doing so would kill the kids she’s trying to take over for…. Not to mention if she wanted to just use magic again to bring her kids back she. Luke have just done it herself in her own universe.
@davidstorm2224
@davidstorm2224 2 года назад
She said they exist in every other universe though
@carlodelacruz2694
@carlodelacruz2694 2 года назад
When prof x showed dr strange what they did to their dr strange, thanos' gauntlet is missing 2 infinity stones. So its possible that vision is not dead in their universe. Also, when their wanda flew from their house, there's no view of the hex. I think in this said universe, tommy and billy are real. Dont know how tho.
@DawnDeRossett0
@DawnDeRossett0 2 года назад
Vision could not exist in 838 because ultron never turned evil
@stevemayne24
@stevemayne24 2 года назад
My read on Billy and Tommy in the other universe is that they are real. They're between ten and twelve, which means they existed before the Thanos arrived. I think that means that in the other reality Wanda had them before 2015 which is when Age of Ultron took place or right after. This means its unlikely that She would have been with Vision even if he is the father. I think that Wanda's partner is Simon Williams. In the comics that's Wonder Man. His mental patterns were used as the basis for Visions personality; again in comics. The reasons that he's not in the movie is that like vision, he died fighting Thanos. Other Wanda never created the Hex because unlike 616 Wanda she had Billy and Tommy to take care and it helped pull her through the grief. That also means there was probably never a Hex in other Wanda's reality. As for 616 Billy and Tommy, the reason Wanda created them was because she had dreamt of them when she dreamt of other Wanda. Anyway, that's what I think.
@ProjektTaku
@ProjektTaku 2 года назад
ooh wonder man.
@nikileshraamsivakumar9746
@nikileshraamsivakumar9746 2 года назад
But in Wanda vision they aged themselves up within a matter of seconds, so I doubt you can take their age into consideration because they might have the same powers as they did in the series. Ofcourse that doesn't negate your theory and as said before, anything is possible in the multiverse
@sanaljoy5017
@sanaljoy5017 2 года назад
@@nikileshraamsivakumar9746 In 616, they were created by Wanda, aging themselves is not their powers
@nikileshraamsivakumar9746
@nikileshraamsivakumar9746 2 года назад
@@sanaljoy5017 that's not what I meant, if they had the same powers as the 616 twins then they could have also aged themselves. I'm not implying that aging themselves is their ONLY power
@bacovey
@bacovey 2 года назад
Also, if Wanda Magiced them into existence outside of the Hex (my personal theory given the biological impossibilities of a Wanda/Vision baby) then why not have them age up to sentience and skip the baby stuff.
@kingpin3357
@kingpin3357 2 года назад
When dr strange told her they weren't real. Wanda said that they are real in every other universe. If they weren't real in other universes she wouldn't say that and she could just make another hex to have fake kids again. But she wants them to be real and not just in a hex
@basequeira
@basequeira 2 года назад
I swear i thought i was the only one that remembered that. She did say they are real im every universe EXCEPT hers. So that kinda defeats the theory that it's a hex
@ammaranwar5343
@ammaranwar5343 2 года назад
Honestly the writers of this movie were kinda lazy and I don't think they even watched the whole of wandavision. They gave no insight into the nature of her kids. Also at the end of Wandavision you can hear her kids calling out to her. that made me assume that MOM would be about her rescuing her fictional kids from some dimension and bringing them into reality, but at a price. Instead we get her randomly hijacking the mind of some innocent Wanda to steal her kids.
@jaychow2414
@jaychow2414 2 года назад
@@ammaranwar5343 While I agree that some parts of the movie were lazily written, it was actually stated that the director wasn't even aware of the show when they were writing the movie. Doesn't fully excuse the problems with the writing, but it is definitely worth noting the circumstances.
@EdsonR13
@EdsonR13 2 года назад
Our Wanda may be powerful but shes not omniscient, she has no way of knowing how "real" other Wandas kids are, she only sees them in her dreams through the eyes of the other Wandas. Not saying they must be in a hex, just saying they still could be
@AnuUatu
@AnuUatu 2 года назад
My theory is that Wanda is an actual Mutant in the Ultron universe. Theres a Professor X in this universe which would mean that mutants are in this particular universe. There would be no need for vision as vision and Wanda both have the mind stone in common but Wanda wasn’t a hydra experiment in the ultron universe…just my thoughts
@liamward-ogorman9419
@liamward-ogorman9419 2 года назад
so you recon that wanda follows the comics where she's the child of magneto?
@SCPguy-06
@SCPguy-06 2 года назад
@@liamward-ogorman9419 I like that idea better
@gpodjoe9179
@gpodjoe9179 2 года назад
I think Wanda would be the child of Magneto in Earth 838. I hope they bring Ian McKellen back.
@AnuUatu
@AnuUatu 2 года назад
@@liamward-ogorman9419 in that particular universe YES. I actually believe Wanda in that particular universe is The Mutant version and her father is indeed magneto and I also believe her children in this universe are compromised. I don’t want to go as far as to say they are demon spawn but that little song and dance they did didn’t sit right with me. This goes into my own theory of how the multiverse works. I believe over all there are intersecting events that cause DEJA VU, these are the moments where the same thing is happening in multiple timelines. I believe the hex happened but the sequence of events were completely different. It’s also my theory that it’s THE MUTANT WANDA that continues being the Scarlett witch due to the trauma of the initial Wanda’s Dreamwalking. Just some thoughts im spit balling
@dmoody4628
@dmoody4628 2 года назад
Good point
@meru8348
@meru8348 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure its basically confirmed that our Wanda from 616 is the only Wanda who lost vision and the Wanda she possesses through dream walking actually just built the house and presumably used magic to make her kids, as in the scene after our Wanda dream walks and takes control of the other Wanda as she is flying away from the house you cant see any hex boundaries or any sign that the other Wanda is in a hex.
@Cllocopine
@Cllocopine 2 года назад
I was thinking this too, that maybe Wanda in the ultron universe did create the children herself, but they’re still real life humans and not fake. Or maybe it’s possible that there is a hex but only inside of their house, meaning Wanda can leave the house freely but Billy and Tommy only exist inside the walls of the house. Either way I don’t think it’s possible that that Wanda created a giant hex and imprisoned 1000’s o people like in Wandavision because if that were the case the illuminati wouldn’t have been so chill about Wanda from 616 dream walking, they would’ve seen her as a bigger threat because they knew how extremely powerful she is.
@Spectre033
@Spectre033 2 года назад
Exactly 💯 this
@musakamara4157
@musakamara4157 2 года назад
Yeah. The reason it's confusing is cuz I feel like if professor x exists in that universe then magneto should to so Wanda would be his daughter. They should have clarified it instead of having her scenes feel so disconnected from the illuminati stuff.
@kimberlygilliam6112
@kimberlygilliam6112 2 года назад
Did other universes have a Thanos and an infinity gauntlet and a snap?
@etriganthedemon666
@etriganthedemon666 2 года назад
@@kimberlygilliam6112 yes because you said universes there are literally endless possibilities, but in this certain universe earth 838, it did have Thanos and Infinity Gauntlet as shown in the movie but I don't think the snap happens
@JahanMisra
@JahanMisra 2 года назад
i don’t think wanda could make the hex if she weren’t the scarlet witch. agatha specifically says her ability to create matter is unique. so the wanda in other universes probably aren’t able to make the hex
@TalixZen
@TalixZen 2 года назад
I believe that you are correct
@yanamadyarova1944
@yanamadyarova1944 2 года назад
I was literally thinking this the whole time, as soon as they said that there was only one Scarlet witch. Cause if other Wanda wasn’t the scarlet witch, how does she have the power to create a hex
@limettenkuchen
@limettenkuchen 2 года назад
I don't think there is another Hex. Wanda herseld told Strange that her children are real in every universe except this. She specifically said that they are real and not "they exist" which is what caused her frustration. She isn't just unhappy, she's also the only version of herself that's unhappy (when it comes to having a family and her sons). So I actually think that Billy and Tommy in this universe exist without the hex
@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875
@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875 2 года назад
but that doesnt really make sense considering there cant be an alternative version of a non existent being and how should she even make kids with an adroid and if their not visions kids than how can they be alternative versions of her ideal kids ?
@limettenkuchen
@limettenkuchen 2 года назад
@@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875 As far as I know the twins are real existing beings in the comics, so it could be. Wanda's powers could also be different, maybe there is something else keeping them alive
@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875
@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875 2 года назад
@@limettenkuchen yea in the comics but that’s not the comic
@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875
@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875 2 года назад
@@limettenkuchen by the rules of the mcu they shouldn’t exist at all in other universes
@limettenkuchen
@limettenkuchen 2 года назад
@@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875 What rules of the MCU? That they can only exist inside the hex is a rule for 616. This doesn't have to apply to any other universe and based on what Wanda said I am pretty sure that it is in fact ONLY a rule for 616 and no other universe. Every other universe could allow the twins to live outside of the hex
@ark2985
@ark2985 2 года назад
Not to mention that the red explosion that happens within the rubble when the whole mountain falls on her is the same explosion when her chaos magic explodes out of her in Westview. Maybe Wanda gave up on life in that moment as the mountain was coming down on her but Scarlet Witch wouldn't let her die and as an automatic defence response she created a last minute hex to cocoon her from all the damage.
@bird9779
@bird9779 2 года назад
If your dreams are you from other realities, then maybe Wanda created the boys from what she dreamt. She didn't know until she got the dark hold that these dreams were other lives from her variants.
@permeus2nd
@permeus2nd 2 года назад
6:16 actually because of the tech used to make Vision he could have kids, his body was made from the same stuff the doctor used to patch up Hawkeye mixed with Vibranium the only thing holding him back would be understanding how the human male anatomy works from there he can just manafest all the needed parts.
@blak4831
@blak4831 2 года назад
His body is partly biological yes, but not human. The Cradle was, in essence, a very very very advanced 3D printer. Ultron made the designs for Vision himself, and considering his whole worldview I doubt he would've bothered with anything as unnecessary as biological reproduction
@brycebomb131
@brycebomb131 2 года назад
Is the Dark Dimension a different universe? Are "dimension" and "universe" synonyms?
@Garanseho
@Garanseho 2 года назад
A dimension is a different plane of existence, but it still exists in the same universe. A universe is the confines of space and time.
@russellcartledge2248
@russellcartledge2248 2 года назад
In the comics, there's only one dark dimension and every universe can access it. So dimension and universe are not synonyms. Not sure if that will continue to hold true for the MCU though.
@wuudy_doni
@wuudy_doni 2 года назад
Dimension are a whole other plane of existence. Like the quantum realm.
@cinderfeather
@cinderfeather 2 года назад
Why was Clea taking him to the dark dimension to fix an incursion that makes no sense.
@russellcartledge2248
@russellcartledge2248 2 года назад
@@cinderfeather isn't Clea from the dark dimension? This could be a "quick come back to my house and let me show you what I know" situation.
@Saimeren
@Saimeren 2 года назад
11:10 If he doesn't come back, it's not a slap in the face. It's still fan service. He did an amazing job with the character for the role he played in the movie. He was Reed Richards. He had dialogue and an actual role in the movie. A slap in the face would have been if he were only shown on a screen in the background, or on TV, or in a flashback standing next to the others. No lines, no interaction with the main heroes, no proper role. Or, if he was used in a silly joke like the play on Asgard in Thor 3. Where they didn't take the role of those actors seriously as the character they were portraying in the play.
@bradyhunt7996
@bradyhunt7996 2 года назад
Agreed! I thought he fit this specific Reed Richards well, but as Nando v Movies talked about in his video, Krasinski doesn’t really fit a young, arrogant and flawed genius Reed
@Saimeren
@Saimeren 2 года назад
@@bradyhunt7996 But there's nothing to say that we have to get that version of Reed in the MCU. Why does the character have to be introduced at their origin? Why can't they start half way through their superheroing career? We've already seen their origin in other movies. Do the Spiderman thing and make it so Reed has already been doing his thing for the last 20 years.
@thepianoman808
@thepianoman808 2 года назад
He has to come back. Everyone keeps forgetting there’s a F4 film planned for phase 4.
@Saimeren
@Saimeren 2 года назад
@@thepianoman808 Yeah, but they could cast someone else. There's nothing saying that every person looks the same across the multi-verse.
@darkecofreak23
@darkecofreak23 2 года назад
Wanda is the only person I know of in the MCU (maybe in the Marvel multimedia multiverse, or Triple M) who could do something like create such a powerful Reality Marble.
@Vetrarland
@Vetrarland 2 года назад
"Kevin Feige, chief creative architect of the Marvel films, says the Scarlet Witch is more powerful than we’ve seen." "Feige who is the "strongest Marvel hero." Feige had previously called Captain Marvel the strongest MCU hero, but this time he strongly suggested the crown belongs to the Scarlet Witch." She is one of Marvel Comics most volatile heroes. She's defeated gods, monsters, and heroes alike. Honestly my favourite character by far. She has defeated some of the most powerful beings in the Marvel Comics universe like: ●The Avengers In Avengers Disassembled. SW resurrected the deceased Jack of Hearts and detonated him like a bomb in the Avengers Mansion, killing Ant-Man and hospitalizing several other Avengers ●Kang The Conqueror. SW defeated Kang leading to his entrapment by the time-keepers. ●Thor. SW sinks into a trance, launching a massive chaos energy attack from beneath Thor, sending him into the sky and sending him plummeting back to earth. ●Storm In Exiles. SW unleashed a blast of chaos magic, instantly taking Storm out of the fight. ●Jean Grey. SW's increased power overwhelmed Jean until she succumbed to the damage, taking her out of the conflict entirely. ●Magneto. SW and Magneto in the battle in Avengers and X-Men: Axis. In the fight, the SW's reality-altering powers were too much for Magneto to handle. ●Fought herself in Fantastic Four #645. Dark doppelgangers was a slightly less powerful version of 616 SW. 616 SW hits her darker self with a powerful blast of chaos magic, instantly knocking the alternate on her back. Though the darker version of the SW was slightly less powerful, taking out any version of this Avenger requires extreme power. ●Dormammu. When Dormammu had the artifact, he easily defeated both super teams, including Doctor Strange. Only SW stood in the way of Dormammu and victory. With one hex blast, she trapped Dormammu within the Evil Eye. ●Chthon. SW traveled to the Dark Dimension, fusing with the book of black magic (The Darkhold), she was granted the power needed to stop Chthon. Besting him in battle, beating and magically sealing the Chaos God into the Darkhold. I really hope we get to see some immensely powerful beings in future films and Wanda / SW can use her powers without being "reasonable". I mean her powers throughout the comics/movies are insane Chaos magic Reality manipulation Energy manipulation Astral projection Probability manipulation Elemental manipulation Flight Able to sense magic Spell casting Nexus being with great influence on time Teleportation Time manipulation Reality warping Witchcraft Force fields Climate control Elemental control Healing Mental / emotional manipulation Telekinetic Illusion Immobilisation Invisibility Power manipulation Multiplication Necromancy Tracking Transmutation Technomagic Telepathy Wanda could manipulate reality, conjure items, create life, manipulate time, teleport, transmute things, affect the weather, control the elements, absorb energy, perform astral projection, and cast spells. Maybe Marvel won't make her that OP but still not holding back her powers in some future movie (maybe her own] would be awesome.
@CyGea
@CyGea 2 года назад
Captain Carter being an Illuminati member makes me think she isn’t “worthy” like our Steve. Cap Steve refuses membership in the comics. He would NEVER agree with killing Strange.
@richiebee8719
@richiebee8719 2 года назад
I’d say the scarlet witch is Wanda and Wanda is the nexus being. The reason the alternate Wanda was not able to keep up is that she’d not “unlocked” the scarlet witch, Agatha had not given her the dark hold, she’d not have access to the magic of Cthon
@noahclaycameron
@noahclaycameron 2 года назад
Can Wanda be a nexus being if she dreams and there are multiple of her?
@Yattien89
@Yattien89 2 года назад
@@noahclaycameron It's more likely that the Scarlet Witch is the Nexus Being, while Wanda as Wanda isn't. I suspect that she'd not have found another Scarlet Witch to dreamwalk into. Oh. That's actually the theory they give. I just replied with my thoughts while watching.
@booyafools5897
@booyafools5897 2 года назад
@@noahclaycameron in order to dream of herself in other universes she would need to become much more powerful
@migueljaramillo2214
@migueljaramillo2214 2 года назад
The scarlet witch is the nexus being, there can only be one scarlet witch at a time but I think that any Wanda can become the scarlet witch but only one at a time or at least that was the case until Wanda destroyed all the books across the multiverse. This is just my version of things until more movies come out and more information comes out
@ked49
@ked49 2 года назад
@@noahclaycameron she dreams of Wanda’s not scarlet witches also ours is the most powerful version since they underestimated her.
@Esterferreiradecastro
@Esterferreiradecastro 2 года назад
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in many years of tv shows is that: no body no death wanda is 100% still alive
@accio_firewhiskey8256
@accio_firewhiskey8256 2 года назад
Not unless we see a body, which we didn't for wanda, she alive
@annesilva3542
@annesilva3542 2 года назад
6:18 “How is that even possible?” Idk dude how is it possible for a sentient super robot AI to exist, or a witch like Wanda to exist?. I didn’t question it, like she said every mother creates their children. Wanda could magic them into being instead of creating the hex in those other realities
@ArcaneEther
@ArcaneEther 2 года назад
It pretty obvious to me that the MCU Phase 4 will culminate with the Young Avengers, in the same way that Phase 1 ended with the original Avengers. Kate Bishop's Hawkeye has had her origin completely setup in the Hawkeye series. America Chavez's origin is now setup here in Doctor Strange 2. Wiccan / Asgardian (Billy), Speed (Tommy), and Patriot (Elijah Bradley) have had their seeds planted, they just need some proper content to showcase their powers. That only leaves Iron Lad (Nathaniel Richards) and Hulkling (Theodore Altman) to be established. Nate Richards will probably be replaced by either Iron Heart or by Tony Stark's daughter, who might don the Iron Heart armor herself. In the comics, Theodore is the son of the male Captain Marvel and Princess Anelle, daughter of the Skrull Emperor. They will either make him the son of our female Captain Marvel, or just skip that and make him the Skrull Prince as soon as we get more Skrull content covered. Once that's done, they just need some big baddie threat to get all of them together and boom - Young Avengers.
@savannahjones123
@savannahjones123 2 года назад
Agreed
@zephyr3693
@zephyr3693 2 года назад
Agree and I’m pretty excited to see where it goes!
@0ceanque3n
@0ceanque3n 2 года назад
i actually think the other wanda's kids are real, somehow some way because, the two in the universe we saw didnt seem to have their powers. billy would have sensed the scarlet witch from the get go and tommy didnt display any speed abilities. and since there can only be one scarlet witch the other wandas had to get a happy ending because as you said the one thing we know is that wanda will always become the scarlet witch for her kids. since ultron worked out in that universe maybe wanda met the human version of vision and had actually babies with him. but i mean who knows, could be totally wrong just theorizing
@JPitt1070
@JPitt1070 2 года назад
Think about it. No Ultron, no Pietro death. Maybe in this universe he died in the fight against Thanos instead. Maybe that loss of her final piece of family caused her to want to make one of her own. Vision or not.
@ChronoXShadow
@ChronoXShadow 2 года назад
True. Replace Vision's death in Infinity War with Pietro's.
@PhilBagels
@PhilBagels 2 года назад
Where is Tony Stark in the Illuminati-verse? If he's not there, who created these Ultron-bots?
@thepianoman808
@thepianoman808 2 года назад
@@PhilBagels I assume he died just like the 616 Tony.
@laurenstanciel1247
@laurenstanciel1247 2 года назад
@@PhilBagels He could’ve died fighting Thanos or Ultron was created by Hank Pym like in the comics.
@kylecarter1599
@kylecarter1599 2 года назад
Your definition of "nexus being" is incorrect. A nexus being is a being that is the same across all universes in the multiverse and ties their universe to the multiverse, not that they are the only one in the multiverse. In the comics, Wanda is the nexus being for the 616 universe. Also, there can only be one nexus being per universe.
@emmawright9660
@emmawright9660 2 года назад
What you see as idealistic, I see something very close to my childhood. My siblings and I tried to bribe my parents with our singing together. From this experience I believed that in that universe, wanda would call it cute and send them to bed anyway, and our wanda would relent because of course she would.
@maheenchaudhry9315
@maheenchaudhry9315 2 года назад
Hey I love your videos. They are literally one of my favorite videos to watch. I have a question I was hoping you (or someone) could answer. I don't know if you've answered this in a video I missed or don't remember but it's Harry Potter related. More specifically thestral related. Thestrals can only be seen by a person who's seen death. But what about pictures of them. Like if someone who can see thestrals snapped a pic of them and showed them to someone who hasn't seen death. Would the person be able to see the thestral in the pic or would he just see the background ?
@dcbandit
@dcbandit 2 года назад
Maybe Wanda's kids in Wandavision were subconsciously created based on the dream of the real kids in the other dimensions, so they are real in every other dimension, except on that particular Earth in Wandavision. Also works for the house. Considering that dreams in the MCU show your parallel lives across the multiverse, then it feels very likely to me.
@thepianoman808
@thepianoman808 2 года назад
That could also make since for being a nexus being. She’s the only Wanda with no kids.
@ToddChristensen27
@ToddChristensen27 2 года назад
I disagree that casting krazinski for Reid Richards and then killing him off is just mean and not okay. Realistically, it would be nice if they had him continue in the role, but would also have worked as a nice fan service to cast him just for this movie
@josephgriffin6601
@josephgriffin6601 2 года назад
If John Krasinski is going to play Reed Richards, then Rainn Wilson should play Doctor Doom
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