Yes, rendering takes a while. But look at what it's doing. In a 5 second 4k video at 30fps to do a 2x slo mo, it's having to create 150 4k frames out of thin air. That's 8.2 million pixels per frame or 1.2 billion for this small clip. We've gotten so used to everything, bigger, now and we can't appreciate just how many pixels are being created in a task like this. It's really mind boggling that this can happen at all, let alone with the push of a button and during a quick bathroom break.
Had a shoot last week and the metabones adapter that we used on the FX6, blurred the quality of the image. It looked bad. So we did a 4x upscale in Topaz, just to see if it was possible (Rendering took 6 hours for a video of 2 minutes). We scaled it back to 4K in Premiere Pro. It looked great! It didn't look weird. Just really clean and sharp. We couldn't believe it. It blew our minds.
Thanks man that was really helpful and just easy to wrap my head around. What an incredible tool. This is exactly the thing I need to punch up the resolution of this documentary I'm working on. Its been bugging me that I have it in 1080 and that I can't do anything about it. This changes so many things in my filming and editing hopefully. Nice content. You got a sub. Good luck dude.
I'm thinking for this to be any real time use the render times need to be vastly improved. Or do you buy a complete top end Mac Studio to be a expensive render farm while you still put stuff together. I bet Adobe will buy out whoever and add it to their Cloud, but they will wait until this new tech has all the issues ironed out.
Just thought I’d jump in here to say that render time will really depend on your hardware more than anything. The speed of your internet connection will have an effect on your performance too (because it downloads the AI models based on what you’re trying to do.) But ultimately any software that does this is going to be slow no mater what you do. It’s extremely intensive and really doing a lot in the background. Right now (in 2022/23) you’re best not using it on projects with tight deadlines and only using it on short clips that you absolutely need in your final cut. Dumping a ton of raw footage into it is going to just cause frustration.
I believe this is the third or fourth video of yours I have watched. Informative, concise, upbeat, polished... I hope you get to the 1 million sub mark, soon, you deserve it.
Thank you for another excellent video. I really enjoy how you explain things for beginners like me. As a beginner I have so much footage I haven’t been able to use so I will be sure to use this now. Thank you for a brilliant channel. All the best.
I haven't checked the new version yet, but I will start a project in a month that will require upscaling from SD to HD. There is a preliminary step of de-interlacing. I bought the Topaz photo plugins as well (all of them). I have been extremely happy. I wonder why the software doesn't cost more. It's often miraculous.
deinterlacing? QTGMC. its fantastic. QTGMC deinterlace and then topazing SD video, the end result must look stunning. cant say anything about topaz since im getting less than a frame when rendering so it would take a day for like 25min of footage, lol.
GAIA is a lower invasive model used for HQ (Film) upscale. New version of Topaz Video AI has a second enhacement feature you can activate doing two models in one wish. There are combinations for HQ Vids that works you can give a try: "Gaia + Artemis V12 HQ" or "Theia Fine Tune + Artemis V12 HQ" or "Gaia + Theia Fine Tune"
Loved the old version V 2.64 but the new version is slow like hell on my pc system. I feel like a beta tester of a unfinished product with this version . There is a lot to work on for Topaz
I have used Video Enhance AI 2.6.4 for upscaling low resolution video clips to 1080p HD for quite some time on both my late 2019 12-core Mac Pro with 32 Gb Video ram and my 16 in. M1 Max MacBook Pro (fully maxed out). I was excited when Video AI 3 came out a couple of months ago. Unfortunately, I found the exact same clips processed with the exact same settings that I had used in Video Enhance AI 2.6.4 were processed 3-4 times slower in Video AI. In fact, I found Video AI 3 to be so slow on both of the above powerful Macs as to be useless and I have reverted to using Video Enhance AI 2.6.4 for processing my low resolution video clips. None of the recent beta releases of Video AI 3 have addressed the tremendously slower processing speed issue, and I am rapidly losing hope that Topaz can salvage Video AI 3.
Great video, really like the way you present. Informative and interesting all the way through. Thanks for the explanation of how it works. I’m definitely getting topaz.
Nice Video. How is your render time? Could you share your numbers and specs? I use it mainly to upscale old videos from early camcorders HDV format (1280x720p, 1440x1080i & 1920x1080i to 1080p or 4K). I find the render time quite slow. A 3 minutes clip took around 60-90 mins to render on my i7 10th, RTX 3070ti depending on the output setting. I have a lot of videos that are 30 mins to 1 hour long. It will take ages to render everything.
To be fair it's doing a lot of work with newer code and newer models, also it does more than one action during the render. The old version could only do one thing at a time so would naturally be faster. We have to accept it's not a fast process, but what it does is better than anything i've ever tried.
I've been using the software extensively for quite a while now, and by far my biggest pet peeve is that it will not under any circumstances use the full power of my GPU. Doesn't matter if I max out the settings in the preferences or not, it rarely uses more than 30-40% of my RTX 3080's compute power. Despite that, the results are amazing.
Really??? I need whole 6 hour event to do and from two cameras 😕. Sounds like a whole weekend render. Hopefully my RTX4090 and my AMD 5950x does the work!
One AI software I wish Topaz could make is about remastering video games, such as making a PS2 or GameCube game look like a PS5 game and turning pixelated graphic assets into HD hand-drawn art. It would be Unreal Engine based. It would use concept art and FMV footage for reference.
I have a canon 80d that defiently would need this software for my videos but if I buy a full frame camera would it make this software useless? (Btw i mainly do photo and would buy a camera based more on photo but I am looking into getting to videography)
hey can you do a video, comparing this please, 4k 30p to 60p vs 1080p 60p upcale to 4k, which one looks better, pleaseeee i need this big favor, i need to buy a lens wider for my real estate videos but is i can just use 4k 30 or 1080 on my sony a7v with this software will be amazing , again thanks so muchhhhh
Maybe my question is stupid. I create videos with replaced background (usually live for yt). The quality is acceptable but it could be better of course. Would this tool be able to enhance quality of such videos? And how about improving quality of old VHS videos?
Great video I would like to see a walk through on how you enhance your drone clips. After estimate what parameters do you normally adjust? I just pushed detail all the way to 100.
I have some really grainy video, and this hardly does anything , except maybe sharpens it a little. I tried Upscale to HD and some other settings. Did anyone have good results with grainy video? If so what settings did you select? This tiny sharpening (the only thing I noticed), I could do easily with FFMPEG which is free. So why is everyone hyping this up. I dont get it. Also if it is using AI, you would think that the AI can determine exactly what the most optimal settings are without asking the user. So I kind of think this is missing the mark.
looking to adjust things like LRC Dehaze, Clarity, Contrast ect What does the best job Adjust Highlights down bump shadows up I thought this would do all that but no luck so far
Would an Asus G14 2024 with the top option of graphics card be good enough for this? I currently have a 2021 G14 with the basic graphics card and it struggles even with Denoise AI in Lightroom. I think I need to upgrade it
Thank you for the great video. Can you tell us the specs of the computer your are running this on? I'm planning to get this and will be running it on a beefy Macbook Pro M1 that's almost maxed out.
I gave the trial a go and it didn't seem to make any difference to my video I uploaded!? all details etc were exactly the same. Not sure if this is because it was in trial mode but yeah wasn't impressed really. I did a few previews of Dif settings, then did a manual one and still no difference?
My problem is this, and maybe you can help me....If I am shooting a 2 minute promo video and there are clips within my edit that I want to apply sharpening to, or noise reduction to, or add slow motion to....just for particular clips within the edit, what is the best workflow to do that, using this video enhance AI? If they made this a Premiere pro plugin I would be so happy. Any helpful advice is much appreciated, thanks!
select your clip in premiere, click “/“ on your keyboard. this should set In - Out points over that clip. make sure other effects like text or sfx are hidden or muted, export that clip out of premiere and drag it into Topaz. There might be a more efficient way of doing this but that’s how I do it
I have Video AI but I really need some guidance - particularly as to the export settings. I have chosen Proteus, and MP4, but when the exported clip pops up on my desktop, it won't play! It says "acps which is not supported!" What am I doing wrong?
Sounds like the exported file is a ProRes video, which is one of the options for exporting. But it should be in a .mov container, and not in a . mp4 container. Anyway, if it's in ProRes format, you should re-encode it, as ProRes is not meant for end user playback. It's mainly a pro camera/NLE format. I'm not even sure, that mp4 supports ProRes codecs.
It is an overkill to edit upscaled FullHD video to 4k. Side question: is there an option to upscale FullHD (1920×1080) to 2K (2560×1440)? How does Topaz Video AI performs when we have added text, text animation, etc. to FullHD video (for faster edit) and then upscaling it and slow motion it? I bet all those text animation (especially the edges) will go jagged and flaky or blurry…
Hey thanks for the video, I have been trying to upscale a clip of 720 X 576 scale up to 1080 but each time it shows Ai error on the timeline. Do i need to download additional module.
after a reboot now its working, i"ve done a few tests to upscale a letterbox to full HD but cropping is very niceable, is there any way to upscale without cropping.
Mmm....I'd say incrementally faster. Frame interpolation is inherently a slow process, for the software has to invent frames and stick them in-between the real ones. So it's the kind of thing I think will always be slow compared to upscaling.
Excellent, but what we really need is to AI-upscale in the player in real-time, be that an android player, Windows Media Player, etc. Then we won't have to remaster all our videos!
That would never work. There's a reason why there are different options in the software, and that's because it can't guess, what you're trying to achieve.
@@domineyDose the Video ai help with with harsh lighting? Of course nothing can "fix" black or white clipping. However, if there is still information in the highs & lowes can Video ai help even out the lighting without turning the image grey? On a side note, I bought the software only to find that it will not install on my laptop because the CPU doesn't support AVX instructions.
My Topaz experiments : 1-When I render an 8K video it displays very laggy and not smooth, does anyone face this issue like me? 2- I played with almost all quality presets and there’s no noticeable difference in quality like it’s very very small enhancements is it normal for good acceptable sharp 1080p video?
You may want to go beyond the presets and dial in your own settings. I talk about that towards the end of the video. You’d open Enhancements, then apply manual adjustments to detail and sharpening etc.
Because u need really high spec from your device like RTX 3060 above is recommended. If you're using GTX, yeah it's really slow and always crashes... This AI upscaling is the TRUE UPSCALING, unlike many other upscaling is fake and didn't really enhance the footage or images.
I'm gaining to reiterate what is said in many of the comments. The render speed just for stabilization is so slow. I have a very fast Mac Studio, and the speed of rendering is just not acceptable.
I bought the newest version 3.3.9 and despite using a fast computer, when I try to upscale or stabilize a video, click on Export the nothing happens. The software is stuck, It is a worthless piece of crap.
6 releases in 37 days as it was and still is full of bugs. It's priced as prosumer software but even the current 3.05 is still not RC status in reality. And as a user I'm not knocking what they have done thro 1. and 2. but 3. was released way to early. Don't expect one click magical transformation of your 10 year old 720 footage to 2160 without a lot of pre work to clean the source. Is it worth the retail price of $299 ? Absolutely not if you compare it to Davinci Resolve ( $295 )
@@dominey Colour shift mainly and the models as I said are from 2.X line and are really not working well with 3.X. Go read the forums to see how many others having issues with this release. It's the way forward from 2.X line but this should never have been released as production ready software.
@@menditsa We opperate on an agile development cycle. We release a new build each tuesday. If you are experiencing issues, please reach out to Support.
@@idapatton9973 A lot has changed since I made my comment Ida back in late November 2022. But I still stand by what I said even today at release 3.1.8. I'll say again, I'm not putting down the work you are putting into the program as it's getting there but I think you released it 5 months too early for the general public. I know the development cycle very well as I'm an active member on the community forums. Personally I think you need to put a freeze on new features at some point and concentrate on ironing out existing bugs. I say this because people are always asking for new features like face sampling etc before models like Proteus have been enhanced to compete with 2.6 line.
So basically.. this is a 300$ size transform, fps correction, ect. Stuff that fixes mistakes that shouldn’t have been made in the first place as a camera operator. Warp stabilization and stuff smh. Not worth 300$ I was looking into this for some color enhancements or something dope like that idk.
Your information clearly indicates that your video is an AD, some may say BS. The app is designed to be used for absolute beginners but in fact has lots of limitations. Ok, as an expert let me tell you this: Practical use - the old realmedia file you always wished to be better: error..... the old *.wmv file: does not work due to wrong audio track etc etc etc You should build a pool of those old videos and test! Have you guys really tested this? The result is a nightmare! Oh, consider you find a source that actually is accepted (I found a few), it takes days to finish. Welcome.
less bass and boost on the audio, man, I have the volume on minimum and still can not stand this cheap radio sound. no matter how interesting you are, it is painful
Topaz 3 sucks. Don't buy it. v2.6 is SO MUCH BETTER even though it doesn't support 5.1 audio or h.265. The app speed and output quality are superior. 3.0 is crap in all of my experiences. So glad I bought 2.6 last year and still have it installed. Until v3 has MANY more updates I won't use it.
Thanks for sharing your feedback! The quality of the v3.1 series is significantly improved from v2.6.4 and I am very curious to hear more about the issues you are running into. Please contact me via Topaz Labs Support, thanks!
The big problem mentioned by others here... is the render time! In this video, Todd showed lots of clips, but didn't say how long they took from start to finish to render. Can you imagine doing individual clips in a 15 or 30 min video this way... it would take ages! Perhaps it's best to wait for version 4 when better and faster render times are developed. EDIT UPDATE - A short note to say thank you for this excellent review and tutorial which I forgot to write when I first wrote this post. I will probably add this app to FCP. Cheers and thanks from Montréal. :-)
I was going to go include render time info but the problem with doing so is that times are dependent on many factors and everyone will have different experiences. What I can say is that rendering in general has been improved, but anything involving frame rate changes (eg, slow motion) or stabilization is much slower than upscaling. I think it’s just a more intensive process, so trimming and only encoding what you need is important. If rendering files 30 min or longer, probably best to create a queue and let it run overnight!
Todd, I have great respect for your work and enjoy and appreciate your videos, but I must strongly disagree with your statement that ‘rendering in general has been improved.” In fact, my own experience in processing numerous video clips exactly the same way in Video Enhance AI 2.6.4 and Video AI 3 have shown the newer version to be 3-4X slower than the previous version. In fact, I have found Video AI 3 to be so slow on my two high-end Macs as to be useless for processing video clips longer than 30 sec.
I need to correct the comment I recently made. I found Video AI 3 to be much slower than Video Enhance AI 2.6.4 when it first came out. However, I have now had the chance to check out the processing speed of the latest Video AI 3.0.6 and it is as fast as the older version. Specifically, upscaling a 720 x 480 interlaced clip to 1920 x 1080 (HD) on my M1 Max MacBook Pro occurred at 0.09 s/frame. The quality was excellent and the interface of the newer version is outstanding. This coupled with the new features, e.g. stabilization, make Video AI a powerful and useful program that I highly recommend.
@@Bengalfan M1 Max isn't really a "high end" workhorse. It's compact and powerful for its size, but an RTX 3080 is almost twice as powerful as the GPU in that computer, and 3080 is a relatively old card now for true power users.
Tried to render 4k sony zv1 footage using "Enhancement" only. The clip was 2 minutes long. It took 38 minutes on MacBook Pro M1 Max... I tried Atomos ProRes HQ recorded with the Atomos and exported previously to mp4 and it took 28 minutes. How is your rendering experience?
That is actually insane. I have a similar setup as you with a ZV-1, but actually "only" a MBP M1 Pro (I mean, still a super capable new machine!). Having 40min render for a 2 minute clip segment just wouldn't make me happy. It'd be really frustrating. Have you been able to somewhat optimise the render time or found a solution for it? The M1 Max really is a top spec machine, this should never take that long. What would happen with a 30min part?! Insanity!
@@ShutterTwist Dziękuję, Maciej! I was just about to purchase the software, as it looks really awesome. But with an "inferior" machine than yours (that still cost me close to €3000!) I won't make it labour through 45min of painful rendering for a 2min 4k clip. Super sad, but I appreciate your info!
@@marsfuture Nie ma za co:) Yes, same here. I would imagine this would apply only to some super important work that had be remastered. But again, this could be a compatibility issue. That's why I am asking around too:)
Thanks for this - useful info. I've been running the trial version on some footage shot on a Zoom Q3 - unclear and noisy, really not much use at all. There's a limit to what even Topaz can do, but the reduction in noise really shocked me. Resolve Studio, by comparison, didn't come close. But 1fps processing speed (yes, my GPU is old) - that's an all-nighter and then some for the 40 minutes of material I've got!
Great video, thanks for putting it out. I'm primarily interested in improving quality of older footage and would truly like to see you do something like this video using older footage.
As I post this comment in June 2023 Topaz Labs' Video AI is an ever evolving and near essential application for editors or artists working in video. However, to be the bringer of bad tidings, after a month or more this app' is still dropping end frames when rendering Quicktime ProRes files. No doubt this error will be eliminated in time, but for the moment it is almost unusable for anyone working in ProRes files.
I am likely going to give this program a try with the movie that I'm currently working on but not going to need it for a few months so who knows maybe they'll come up with even better upgrades by then but I'm kind of stuck at shooting at 720p with my current cameras and such so it'd be nice to be able to upscale it to 4K
Thanks i just got the Topaz software and bought a eGPU GTX 1060 6GB for my Lenovo Tiny M900, 16 GB RAM, and i7-6700T but i think im going to upgrade the CPU as well. I was thinkering yesterday with my childhood family VHS tapes digitized with elgato video capture and i got really impressed on how vhs can improve to 1080p, 59.94 fps, and enhancement AI, im a real noob here so im tinkering to see what everything does and how i can get the best videos to share with my family :) i even have old 8mm videos from my grampa from 1955 that is also digitized!
