Topping D70 OCTO DAC Review - Topping's Best Yet

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Get the D70 Octo: bit.ly/D70Octo
Video Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:11 - Build
01:34 - Controls
02:02 - Under its Hood
03:39 - Sound Performance
06:18 - Soundstage & Imaging
07:30 - Transient Response
08:46 - Resolution
10:08 - Bass
11:00 - Midrange
11:32 - Treble
12:08 - My Conclusion
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Desktop headphones I’m using:
🎧 Hifiman Susvara: bit.ly/3a39pm2
🎧 Hifiman HE1000SE: bit.ly/3gwkXRW
🎧 Hifiman Arya Stealth: bit.ly/3HORBss
🎧 Audeze LCD-5: bit.ly/3nb5KbD
🎧 Audeze LCD-4: bit.ly/35LFYAK
🎧 Kennerton Rognir: bit.ly/3zD1IxT
🎧 Meze Elite: bit.ly/3RPojys
🎧 Erzetich Phobos V2021: bit.ly/3HMWBhf
🎧 Sennheiser HD800S: amzn.to/3T5FX2J
🎧 Sendy Peacock: bit.ly/3EyZxQf
🎧 Apos Caspian: bit.ly/3nab1QO
Wireless headphones I’m using:
🎧 Sennheiser Momentum 4: amzn.to/3CodrCc
🎧 Sony WH1000XM5: amzn.to/3RUfQKu
🎧 Apple AirPods Max: amzn.to/3rGHQqr
IEMs I’m using:
👂 7Hz Timeless: bit.ly/3q7RNgm
👂 Meze Rai Penta: bit.ly/3j2EhVa
👂 FiiO FH9: bit.ly/3zSWka5
👂 FiiO FH7S: bit.ly/3fYOgi9
👂 FiiO FD7: bit.ly/3nEqw4h
Loudspeakers I’m using:
🔊 KEF Reference 3: amzn.to/3qZKbMm
🔊 Natural Sound NS17: bit.ly/2TuUXx3
🔊 Sound Of Eden Crescendo UNO: bit.ly/3f5jO1X
Integrated/Power Amps I’m using:
💪 Chord Electronics Ultima 5: amzn.to/3CLWVxi
💪 Burson Timekeeper 3X GT: amzn.to/3Ext5hm
💪 Benchmark AHB2: amzn.to/37jcR9M
💪 Topping LA90: bit.ly/3SPThbj
Best DACs I tried so far (in no particular order):
🥇 Gustard R26 Discrete: bit.ly/3TemlZP
🥇 Gustard X26 PRO: bit.ly/2ORB7Ko
🥇 Chord Electronics DAVE: amzn.to/3Tbs2aY
🥇 Denafrips Terminator Plus: bit.ly/3rLr35m
🥇 Rockna Wavelight: bit.ly/3hD33xl
🥇 Audiobyte HydraVox: bit.ly/2VXJjZM
🥇 Musician Aquarius: bit.ly/2U9qwwT
🥇 Matrix Audio Element X2: bit.ly/3Eryerb
🥇 Matrix Audio X-Sabre 3: bit.ly/34oBFyG
🥇 SMSL VMV D2: bit.ly/3q9lIF7
Best Mid-Fi DACs:
🥈 Gustard X18: bit.ly/3CMcJ2W
🥈 Gold Note DS-10 Plus: bit.ly/3f7pYie
🥈 Topping D90SE: bit.ly/3gC5FcO
🥈 Musician Pegasus: bit.ly/2OvCOgn
🥈 Matrix Mini-i Pro 3: bit.ly/3t97FkN
🥈 SMSL SU-10: bit.ly/3Eq9jEm
🥈 SMSL VMV D1SE: bit.ly/3nbaTjT
🥈 SMSL M500 MKIII: bit.ly/3yvztl8
🥈 Soncoz SGD1: bit.ly/36IUQ5r
Best Entry-Level DACs:
🥉 Gustard X16: bit.ly/3SQr6ZL
🥉 Topping D30 PRO: bit.ly/3taPWcE
🥉 Topping E50: bit.ly/3q9e6CE
🥉 Topping D10S: bit.ly/3r1hWNh
🥉 SMSL DO200 MKII: bit.ly/3elkZO4
🥉 SMSL SU-9N: bit.ly/32U7qj3
🥉 Soncoz LA-QXD1: bit.ly/3gf8ONt
Best DAC + Headphone Amp combos:
🎶 Burson Conductor 3X GT: amzn.to/2xcfSKx
🎶 FiiO K9 PRO: bit.ly/3ejKRd3
🎶 Topping DX7 PRO+: bit.ly/3rH6siH
🎶 xDuoo XA-10: bit.ly/39UsS7K
Best Headphone amps:
💣Trafomatic Primavera: bit.ly/3Co8wAZ
💣Trafomatic Head2: bit.ly/3VdNrC1
💣Enleum AMP-23R: bit.ly/3CV2QQN
💣Ferrum OOR + Hypsos: bit.ly/3tbjNSn
💣Burson Soloist 3X GT: bit.ly/3q7nrus
💣Flux Lab Acoustics Volot: bit.ly/3fJegep
💣Benchmark HPA4: bit.ly/2xb6hn5
💣Sparkos Labs Aries: bit.ly/2xcOps1
💣SMSL SP400: bit.ly/3sAUEO2
💣Topping A90 Discrete: bit.ly/2YBwCnZ
💣Singxer SA-1: bit.ly/3eI6aCC
Best USB Dongles & Bluetooth DAC/Amps & Portable DAC/Amps:
📱 Chord Mojo2: amzn.to/3fWXYkM
📱 FiiO BTR7: bit.ly/3fJUhij
📱 Shanling UA5: bit.ly/3yuksQR
📱 xDuoo Poke II: bit.ly/3CIewWO
📱 Topping G5: bit.ly/3Evjs2p
Best DAPs:
🎵 FiiO M17: bit.ly/34pgo84
🎵 FiiO M11 Plus: bit.ly/3Ew0l8K
🎵 Shanling M9: bit.ly/3r4swDh
🎵 Shanling M7: bit.ly/3I9rldH
🎵 Shanling M6 Ultra: bit.ly/3RXGsKQ
🎵 Hiby RS6: bit.ly/3t9mUKw
🎵 Hiby RS5 MKII: bit.ly/3KSqiyE
🎵 Hiby RS2: bit.ly/3EgakPb
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@shawnpwatsons1 9 месяцев назад

I have to say that I love my D30Pro DAC with the same dac chips. I had tried the SMSL SU-9 with the ESS 9038 chip and the treble regions bit me so I sent it back for the D30Pro which I've been VERY happy with. I was very excited to see Topping come out with this Octo DAC for the same reason. Great review. Thankyou for wasting no time reviewing it.

@danjones7561 9 месяцев назад

Awesome intro!

@PassionforSound 9 месяцев назад

Great review, Sandu! I totally agree with you about the D70 OCTO - it's one of the best DACs to come from Topping ever in terms of musical enjoyment. It seems like they're starting to find the balance between technical prowess and musical enjoyment.

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

Hey Lachlan, thanks for stopping by! Until DX9 comes along, this is indeed the only current production Topping unit that sounds about right without following it with tube amps and/or sweet-sounding headphones and speakers Eventually, they will realize that good measurements aren't everything, the final exam still needs to happen in a stereo or head-fi battle station.

@PassionforSound 9 месяцев назад

@@Soundnews I completely agree!

@mikeg2491 7 месяцев назад

I remember the old cirrus logic chips in my old iPad they were really sweet sounding dacs, if it sounds anything like those I’d love to pick one up.

@acheresh 6 месяцев назад

have you seen WaveTheory youtube review of this dac?

@michaeltessler7091 7 месяцев назад

Topping D70pro Octo Vs. SMSL D400EX ???? This is the answer we all need as you have reviewed both but never compared. Thanks for all your great work!

@piter_parker 7 месяцев назад

And smsl d400es, smsl VMV d1se2

@perfeemartinez8149 8 месяцев назад

You are the first person to confirm my observations regarding DACs based on Cirrus Logic systems. I had a D30 Pro and really liked the sound of it. None of my friends understood what I meant. This made me doubt. Maybe I'm deaf after all. I like to look for new things and after the excellent reviews I bought the E70V. However, I wasn't fascinated by its sound, but it stayed with me for a long time. Now I'm returning to the sound of Cirrus Logic in the new version of the D70 Pro Octo. I can't wait for the shipment.

@rajasankar1245 8 месяцев назад

What is the difference in sound quality of D30pro vs D70pro? I have D30pro and I love it, do I need an upgrade to D70pro octo?

@perfeemartinez8149 8 месяцев назад

@@rajasankar1245As said in the review, the difference is in the sound resolution. Maybe this isn't the reason you need to replace your DAC. The overall sound is similar.

@Ytrewq3854 3 месяца назад

Вам понравился Octo? Стоит его брать??

@user-lq5je6ud9w 8 месяцев назад

Nice review, thank you Sandu! I have a question regarding the comparison between the Sabre and Octo versions. You tested the Sabre version originally on your KEFs. Did you compare the 2 DACs on the Raidhos? (just to make sure, that the differences in their sound signatures that you mentioned in your review are not because of the different speaker setup)

@mattrismatt 9 месяцев назад

Superb review! Though, you would have been more accurate had you referred to the other DAC the 'D70 Pro Sabre', as both DACs are iterations of the D70 Pro.

@audiojunkie1047 5 месяцев назад

Hi Sandu from Northern California!! Great review... as usual!! Just now seeing this in Jan. 2024. Looking for bedroom DAC D70 Gen 1 upgrade and I think I've found it in D70 Pro Octo. I have Matrix DDC to use since Octo does not have I2S interface, which I think will pair nicely. No sub in bedroom which the slower response and added bass punch you speak of will work well while keeping remainder of system flat. Would like to know you thought on change! Thank you for your time!! 😀👍👀🙋

@robertozappala67 9 месяцев назад

Sandu is my favorite reviewer! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@Pablo-pk2qi 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for this. I have a question. How would you compare Topping Octo to Aune S9C Dac section?

@densonwee 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for the wonderful review Sandu! I am curious to know if you feel that this is the successor to the D70s. Thanks!

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

It's not far off from D70S, except that D70 Octo is even warmer/fuller and more spacious sounding. Everything else is more or less the same (from memories, as I don't have the D70S anymore)

@densonwee 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for the reply!

@eduardsimunovic 9 месяцев назад

Hi Sando, I got Topping A70 Pro connected to EF400 and could immediately feel the difference, great upgrade based on your review. Can you please tell me from a memory how would D70Pro Octo compare to something like Musician Draco or even EF400's R2R, sense of stage,details, transparency, bass level? Thanks in advance!

@carminedesanto6746 9 месяцев назад

Thanks ..food for thought.. I just picked up a Topping E50 ( with an IFI power supply) …and it’s ( for the money ) pretty decent…however if I was to upgrade ..this looks interesting. Great review. Take care.

@grhaggerty 9 месяцев назад

I had a topping e-50 with the topping PA50 power supply and I liked it. When I found a used denafrips ares 2 for about $650 I bought that and love it. You should see what you can get used,audiophile equipment is so expensive.

@carminedesanto6746 9 месяцев назад

Yup

@bruunm1975 5 месяцев назад

I am looking to get this to upgrade from my Node2i internal DAC. This should be a nice upgrade I am sure ;)

@Rider4683 Месяц назад

I'm trying the octo with A70 Pro. With I have not the sound mode in the menu? And what filter do you use? Thanks

@craigmatthews4102 9 месяцев назад

Please review the Hiby R3 II. 😊

@metalman0708 8 месяцев назад

I am looking for a balanced replacement for my Schiit Asgard amplifier (4 years old). I am looking at the new discrete Schiit Midgard. Can you review that one? I would like to hear your thoughts or your recommendations for a good pairing balanced Head Amp for the OCTO.

@blue6point62 9 месяцев назад

I would love a comparison of balanced vs single ended out performance in these reviews. My headphone rig is balanced but my HiFi is single ended due to my preamp. Thanks!

@Maver1ck911 8 месяцев назад

There's hardly a sonic difference unless you require greater headroom with a hotter input or output.... or if you have poor grounding and require a differential solution to negate hum.

@Axiosz 3 месяца назад

Nice video! But now im a little confused. Gustard X18, Topping D90SE or Topping D70 Octo. Which one would you choose?

@LazYevgen 8 месяцев назад

Sandu. What about the original D70? Would you consider upgrading from the original to this new version?

@bryanbassett2110 9 месяцев назад

Will you review SMSL D2R?

@craoui 7 месяцев назад

I am really tempted to replace my Topping D70S with that one.... 🤔@Sandu : Do you thing it will be a great upgrade in term of natural sound and soundstage?

@jerryprasetyo9653 8 месяцев назад

what's the difference with D70 Pro Sabre. It seems same 100% incase of physical body, but different in chip. Which one more "analogue" like sound? thank you

@user-jz3lc5yt1j 9 месяцев назад

Hello. How does it compare to Gustard x18?

@jayem1826 9 месяцев назад

Hello Sandu. I know it's not a fair comparison, but if you can recall which one gave you a more hologrific sound: Denafrips Ares II or this Octo? Thank you

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

A very long time passed since I had the Ares for review, they should sound pretty close in terms of soundstage & imaging, but the Ares II might edge it by a hair as R2R units are still champions in this regard.

@metalman0708 8 месяцев назад

I ordered the OCTO on your recommendation. Is it good, it is miles ahead of my multibit dac. I did find that the DAC sound best in DAC mode rather that pre amp mode. It was miles apart. I am well pleased. Very resolving and far more detailed than my other DAC. Thumping Base!!!!

@sandysandaver5412 8 месяцев назад

You say that had already reviewed the Topping D70 Pr, do you mean the TOPPING D70 Pro Sabre please?

@user-dk1ni7gj3u 9 месяцев назад

Wow it's bang for your buck

@lisar3944 5 месяцев назад

I don't quite understand the correlation between the pro and octo against age? Is this about what kind of music you think different age groups listen to? or is there some physical difference (eg our ears age along with the rest of our bodies) that you are factoring in here?

@CURIJOSE 6 месяцев назад

please, compare the SMSL SU-9 ULTRA to the TOPPING D70 OCTO

@Ytrewq3854 3 месяца назад

Мне это тоже интересно, не могу выбрать из этих двух DACs…

@mehmetcamat4458 9 месяцев назад

How would you compare the D70 Pro Octo to EverSolo Z8 since they are priced the same

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

Z8 - punchier in the bass, having a slight edginess in the treble. D70 Octo - no edginess whatsoever, the bass is strong, but it's not Z8 strong. Z8 sounds wide, D70 Octo sounds deep. The midrange is a clear winner on the D70 Octo. I like them both, but what will work better for you depends on system matching and personal taste.

@mehmetcamat4458 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for the info

@xkmotr 9 месяцев назад

@@SoundnewsWhat does it mean that "Z8 sounds wide"? That there is more space in the sound?

@crh4878 9 месяцев назад

How does the Octo compare to the Gustard's you rated?

@justasimplefox 9 месяцев назад

Was also hoping for a few more comparisons..

@Thoughtflux 9 месяцев назад

Is it as deep & wide as r2r dacs? How does it compare to schiit products?

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

Yes, very close to R2R DACs in that regard. Can't say much how it compares with Schiit units.

@frostzxs 9 месяцев назад

Привет мужик! Молодец, что подстригся! 😄

@-MarkWinston- 9 месяцев назад

I spy with my little eye the Raidho TD2.2. Not an accurate speaker but its fun and exciting.

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

What would be an accurate speaker for you? (just curious). The only speakers that provided a bit more resolution (a tiny bit more) were the Borresen M1. I love a fun and exciting sound, so the TD 2.2 is right up my alley.

@-MarkWinston- 9 месяцев назад

@@Soundnews KEFs, Revels, Genelecs, Neumanns... those are brands that often create accurate speakers to name a few. Raidhos are far from accurate, they are tuned to sound good for the masses, or at least that is what the designer is after. Ive heard the Boressen M1, M6 and the entry level X3 in Thailand at Absolute Sound less than 2 weeks ago, beside the Ms were the old-ish but large Raidho D5.1 and a few other Raidhos (XTs). All the Raidhos sounded thin in comparison to the Borresens, especially in the midrange. The Borresens are very coloured too, but in a way that is way way way more pleasant than the Raidhos IMO. The X3s were a shocker, they sound exceptional for their price, nothing Ive heard so far in this price comes close. Still, not accurate but a very very captivating sound. I thought Borresens would sound like Raidhos but after the very long session at Absolute Sound I was dead wrong. :)

@Flavius7 9 месяцев назад

Absolutely lovely screen and excellent musical leaning tuning. But the reality is The D90 is still their flagship dac for resolution and instrument separation. If you don't need VU METERS on your screen I'd still go for the D90Se.

@Maver1ck911 8 месяцев назад

D90se is thin. A90D isn't worth the msrp. This meme of silicon waste is better and less expensive. Rebel amp and Singxer much better for the segment. Hell, even Midgard is more promising.

@Flavius7 8 месяцев назад

@@Maver1ck911No, it isn't!

@soulfulfool 9 месяцев назад

I got double CS chips in my dap but compared to my D70 (dual AK4497) it sounds somehow boring. Probably I need to try R2R to get what Im looking for, my soul is older than body :) I love tube amps and old records

@verbatim_transfer 9 месяцев назад

if you think records sound better than digital then you’re looking for non oversampling digital filterless DACs. those DACs won’t disrupt the time domain and then try to correct it with filters. they sound correct in terms of the time domain but they won’t measure well. if you prefer gear that measures well, then maybe the DACs i’m referring to won’t be to your liking. but if it’s all about the music and the connection to the music, look into them.

@mikeg2491 7 месяцев назад

Personally I’d recommend trying to get a lightly used Gustard R26. I have a DAVE and it’s still king of all DACs I’ve heard but it can be a bit too much sometimes, I think the Gustard is a balance of non-fatiguing sound and good detail.

@Leo-yn5fx 9 месяцев назад

This one how does it compare to the vmv d2?

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

Faster, cleaner and more transparent than D2. D2 feels leaner, slower and a bit boring by comparison. D2 is still great if you value a massive soundstage and a smooth presentation.

@aceofspades6667 9 месяцев назад

Starting the vid I’m skeptical at topping and best in the title

@sinisavuk 5 месяцев назад

Is it D90se/le still better than this?

@Soundnews 5 месяцев назад

Their best measuring DAC is the D90 III, but their best sounding? (subjectively), it's definitely the DX9.

@ferdinandbardamu3945 9 месяцев назад

I was hoping this was an 8 channel DAC with AES/EBU inputs. Sadly, no such luck.

@hermannschmidt9788 9 месяцев назад

The KEFs are gone?

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

Not YET....but soon. I'll make you an amazing deal on them ;)

@hermannschmidt9788 9 месяцев назад

@@Soundnews:-D Are you saying that you bought that pair of Raidho for 40000€? OMG 😮

@datdudeinred 8 месяцев назад

Those raidho's in the background must be far far beyond your kefs,isn't it?

@Soundnews 8 месяцев назад

TD 2.2 are better than my Reference 3 in every possible way. I'll probably sell my soul for a pair 😅. Do you know anyone interested in a mint-looking Reference 3 at half the price?

@vit3494 9 месяцев назад

WHAT HAPPENED WITH YOUR SPEAKERS??? )

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

What happened to them? 😁

@MarlonUrias 8 месяцев назад

At that price I want a bigger screen and some graphics

@user-es3hq5zk4e 8 месяцев назад

Great review,these dacs crush Chord products and at a fraction of the price

@gerritfridericksohn4627 9 месяцев назад

I doubt this can come close to the Mojo2. Yeh I said it.

@Soundnews 9 месяцев назад

I own several top-grade Chord Electronics products, but Mojo2 cannot compete with D70 Octo, especially in terms of spaciousness & holography. Mojo2 is still great, but only with IEMs and several desktop cans, in a stereo setup it lacks the stage and imaging of big units, plus it's not as dynamic & engaging.

@f7p1764 8 месяцев назад

SU-10 is the best this one is for kids..

@vipernecklampy8773 8 месяцев назад

Yes? I am looking for double Sabre SU-10 vs's D70 Octo and i'm not sure what i'm doing if i go D70 Octo... I really lime Sabre, but i also really like my Fiio KA13 portable with Cirrus..