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What i expect from top tier SPAA: Improved launch-and-forget AA missles which can ignore flare What i get from top tier SPAA: more manual control which most likely to work when the target is ignorant of the incoming danger. Another banger from Grass Molester Malzi
Because we dont have true BWR yet in game, missiles are not going pitbull wich would come closest to fire & forget to a degree, top tier missiels in game feel really janky & random.
@@DerDrecksack87 There pretty much is no self contained SPAA vehicle that has active radar missiles in service. Command RF guidance for something like SHORAD makes way more sense since you're going to be firing a lot of them and they need to be small and cheap. The only short range active radar missile air defense system is NASAMS and that's because they just stuck an AIM-120 on a ground launcher
@@signs80 I was not just talking about SHORAD, the Patriot PAC3 and the S400/S500 systems all have fire & forget active radar guided missiles, sure they are hooked up in datalink with a radar but the missiles still go pitbull after fired if they lose radar lock from the ground station. They should add them in game, probably will at one point or make the 11.0-11.7 AA use fire & forget missiles like the Strela for gameplay reasons and limit the amount of simultanious spawnable AA to balance it or whatnot.
@@DerDrecksack87 They have said themselves they won't do SPAA like that because there is not really a feasible way to do it. S-300 and Patriot type systems need at minimum 3-4 different vehicles working together in order to actually function. IR missiles like the strela have shorter range than RF command guided missiles so they won't be particularly useful when enemy aircraft have 20km range guided TV missiles.
@@signs80 yeah and thats the issue with modern stuff, Gaijin either introduces new AA that outranges CAS or they introduce CAS that outranges AA in rotation year after year. The truth is there is no balance to be made, these systems were made as a response & to outdue each other irl aka the arms race. If they want to balance them they would have to artificially change the numbers to equal each others ranges between AA & jets, but then both communities would throw a tantrum again and downvote on steam. So gaijin is kinda in a hard place, do they want to keep it as it is (wich they wont as new stuff is coming especially for planes+new premiums are needed for funding) or try to expand on the game to allow for more modern & potent stuff, same story as with naval that is stuck in the WW2 battleship era and no real anti ship missiles on modern ships are in sight, because those would not work on the small maps we have, same as BWR with jets & long range air to air missiles like hypersonics, yet i also doubt they would make versions of existing maps 10x bigger just for top tier. I have no idea how they will do this when inevitably more ordnance & newer versions of jets come in, only in ground RB is somehow managable to have the new stuff fighting though those maps are antiquated too.
it didnt work as chaff, it has a locking radar seperate from its search radar, the main target is spotted on radar using locking radar and search radar jsut shows other targets, and the f-104 was too close for the effective range of the tor m1
Gaijin say byself , Tor 1 is Not good …. Bad Statistic etc … the biggest mistake from Gaijin was the nerf by Release , missle by Release 850m per sec. on the dev Server was ca. 1250m per sec
@@JordanMeadows-g1z Eh, kinda questionable decision. Tor got very short range and very low ceiling. It's selling point is SOME degree of armor, allowing it to work under fire and it's main task is covering other AA vehicles and emplacement, sweeping otherwise "missed" targets. That's why it shares same command vehicles with Osa, Strela and Tunguska. So the real bread and butter is sets of HARM missiles trying to hit systems like Pantsir, Buk, S-300/350/400 or radar posts.
Отличный ЗРК. Но он не должен быть на фронтовой линии. Они бы ещё Круг, Квадрат, или Куб, особенно современные модификации, в ход пустили. Или С-125, или, чего уж мелочиться, С-200 и С-300, 400 и 500. На фронте место "с6 Тунгуска, Панцирь С1 или 9К33 "Оса". И то, последняя с оговорками
no proper radar lock and track for anti air missiles (manual line of sight is only used in case of heavy ECM interference ) Not to mention that Russian SAM's are supposed to by synced up to a command post or larger radar array rather than using the onboard electronics.
SPAA is a bit of a love hate thing for since sometimes most people use spaa for others reason but when you have that one guy who keeps Alt+ deleting or click refresh sky tab to make sure nothing fly makes the matche soo much better
That was me with the striker for a bit. Can nail bmps, scout, move fast because of the gearbox (reverses as fast as it goes forward) and there's always that Russian guy with a ka50 at the start.
I am Mid reaserching this AA right now but the fact that you are not using Auto Lead (Or at least not using straight up Auto) Is making me sad, This thing is a beast if you know how to press (L + Alt) :D
@Fire-superme when shooting at a target past a few kilometers with auto lead turned on, most of the time, the auto lead will not lead the missile enough and it will miss the target unless there flying directly at you, at least with my experience using auto lead.
russian anti aircraft not in the russian tech tree, but the chinese one. I feel that russia should get a better version of it, because it's theirs, but they do NOT need it.
Me in my AH Mk1 with Starstreaks: (laughs maniacally) I almost got a nuke from first spawn Brit apache before they nerfed the Starstreak cost to make it unable to first spawn Starstreaks. It's in my AH Mk.1 vid actually.
