@@ericjiang8948who cares about their reaction they were about to take away a huge opportunity for Tory and she found another way to compete personally I would’ve done the same
@@tylerroberts8306 If they let her fight, she could have ended up hurting Sam. She already went too far when she hit her again once she got a point. You’re wild if you think Daniel and Amanda would be okay with Sam getting hurt.
Krease is Tori real sensei , she didn’t train under Johnny much and she didn’t fw Silver so it makes sense that she would go back to Cobra Kai after feeling like she’s been slighted by the Larussos
I totally understand tory's switch, even though she started something good in miaygi do, let's agree that not everyone matches the style, tory is simply the Cobra Queen. The girl has been having difficult seasons, I feel that the only things that make her happy are robby and karate, now she has lost the only relative who loved her, her own mother, she always had to support everything on her own, more than ever she needed to fight (people have different reactions, so I don't think either she or the LaRussos were wrong at the time). With Kreese's words and everything she's experienced, even after she leaves, it's clear that she's replaceable for them, and it's even worse that no one went after her. Hate him, in fact he's terrible, but Kreese's relationship with Tory is sincere, and at all times he's defended her and been there for her like no one else, I think she reminds him of Johnny, but at least with her he tries to make things right. So it's obvious that she would return to the one person who offered her a hand, she needs the prize, she needs to support herself and for her mother memory, after that stolen victory, more than ever. Notice that she's not happy about being against miyagi do, but it's the way she's found to keep going and in Cobra Kai she's number one, in miyagi do she wouldn't be. It's not a step backwards, but it's what necessity has made it. Johnny is more than right to point out that they've lost one of their best fighters. Kwon and Tory are going to do a great deal of damage.
idc tory had every right to go back to the one person who he|ped her through everything , she may not be in thr right head space rn but in her mind kreese was always there for her
@@omgbygollywowDefinitely not the case because she didn’t call the police when she saw Kreese and the only one she told was Robby. She obviously still cares for him, he helped her with a lot.
Tory going to Cobra Kai is not because she likes Cobra Kai or because of Kreese. It's her only way to get into the Sekai Taikai, even if she hates Kim Da Eun. She doesn't care about Cobra Kai or Miyagi Do. She just wants to win the Sekai Taikai for her mother. For her, the ends justify the means. She is willing to make a deal with the devil to win this for her mother.
Kwon gonna fold them up like oragmai, Tory switching makes sense, what doesn’t make sense is how quick they three Tory out the window like bruh go talk to her, I get it if the tournament is close asf like maybe even the next day but atleast talk to her before replacing 😂😂
Too many people are assuming that they just timeskipped and nobody talked to her, even her boyfriend Robby. There's 10 episodes left and tournaments have only taken up 1 or 2 episodes before, probably some episodes next season will show what happened before the tournament.
@@PossessedbyPhoenixNah. It's not an assumption when they literally glosses over it. No one looked for her after the fact and Robby didn't even go to Tori's house at least when she wasn't returning her messages. Some boyfriend he is.
Nah johnny was in the right, daniel over here glazing miyagi not helping his students while johnny was doin most of the work this season w the dojo and family. Daniel the biggest op to miyagi do 😭
Daniel fought more for hawk than Johnny ever did. Johnny's interference lowk just got them a weak lineup for the ST Johnny literally showed more bias towards students than Daniel did.
I do think its a little weird that Krease is moving around the way he does but you also have to remember Krease was apart of the military so he most likely has some connections or just anything that allows him to move around more smoothly with Kims help as well.
Simple solution Daniel or Johnny should of explained that the fight decided the leader is postponed but they would be more than open to fight her to help her work it out🤷🏿♂️
A teenager Losing someone being in a weaker emotional state. A seasoned adult that knows how to exploit weakness. I don’t like it either but it makes sense.
Nah evan was spittin johnny wasnt right or wrong he was trying to be there for tory fr by allowing them to fight maybe they could’ve put helmets on or something tbh. Now Daniel was tweakin all season mans out here training two ppl only, tryna advance only HIS students,gettin rilled up at his own wife over mr myagi. Which showss no growth btw
Nah man, Johnny shouldn't have tried to force em to fight, especially since Sam didn't want to after Tory told everyone about her mom. Plus like the guys said in the reaction, that was Johnny's way of getting through it, but it didn't exactly produce good results since he ended up being a deadbeat dad who still has major issues (anger, alcoholism, resorting to violence quickly), he shouldn't equate his trauma/grief to Tory's. Go to therapy instead of fighting out of control before you end up hurting someone.
@@gjjijji I mean, Sam should get a say either way since she's also going to be fighting, it's not just about Tory, you can't just offer her up as a punching bag to vent her grief. But continuing would likely be pointless anyhow since whether consciously or not, Sam would prolly go easy on Tory knowing she's vulnerable mentally, meaning even if she won it'd feel undeserved. And if Tory ended up losing, she'd still feel disposable and prolly go back to Kreese anyway. Plus with the reckless aggression Tory was fighting with, it was only a matter of time before one of them got hurt tbh.
@@ericjiang8948 if Sam feels that way she can speak up and say she doesn’t want to fight. I don’t think Daniel should just say the fights over and that’s that
@@gjjijji That's the thing, Sam DIDN'T want to fight after Tory told them about her mom, yet Johnny was still trying to force it. It was the right call to stop regardless imo, Tory was being excessive with her hits and was about to knock Sam off the deck when Daniel stepped in. Besides, Amanda was the one who told Daniel to stop it anyhow, it wasn't a decision he made on his own.
The ending was way too rushed. Are we really supposed to believe that no one talked to Tory after her fight with Sam? The writing for Robby was all over the place. He couldn’t even fight Miguel at first because Tory wasn’t answering his texts but then he went to Barcelona without giving Tory a second thought…
Daniel was right to stop the fight but I’m with Evan with Daniel it the same dance with him he’s cool with working with Johnny and then something always happens where he is triggered and he feels like he has to take the lead because his way is the best way. It’s getting old at this point. Johnny is immature as well with his delivery of things but I get him getting tired of Daniel finding ways to undermine him.
They’re missing two fighters, so I’m guessing the last two Cobra Kai members might be Kenny and Yoon(the guy that got his ass kicked by Kwon. Also I definitely agree with you guys, it’s weird how none of them especially Robby bothered to check up on Tory and comfort her, so her going back to Cobra Kai makes sense in a little bit.
Tory has ALWAYS been on Cobra kai😭 yall say switches sides again as if she does it every season like no this is her ONLY time “switching” and it’s absolutely valid
Rob your actually wrong the only reason Johnny even fought over the dojo name was because he created a dojo with nothing and still managed to get them to the all valley championship tournament and they got a spot in the sekai tekai tournament plus chozen started it because he was mad that kumiko didn’t respond to his drunk voicemail call of him saying how much he likes her and shit and Danny was just trying to get both of them to stop and at the end Johnny gave up and decided since his dojo was basically cobra Kai without the name he didn’t want to keep continuing kresse’s legacy so he said y’all can have it the dojo name is miyagi do
I am confuse about that.. The spots for the tournament were one for miyagi-do and the other for cobra kai usa right? So if there is cobra kai Korea using the spot of cobra kai USA or there is an extra spot because those are different countries?
@@jessy8a10 cobra Kai period came from kresse sensei it has nothing to do with where they are located it’s all the same and Kim was there when they earned a spot in the tournament so that makes it even more plausible
@@Futureworld573Sure but it doesnt take thay much to get into the all valley all you need is students so it's not that much of an accomplishment and the only worthwhile students were miguel and devon
I am sure they will address everyone trying to reach out to Tory in part 2. The writers would not let such a big issue slide. It's just that they had to end this part 1 with the shock ending with more impact, so later they will explain it.
That’s fucked up tho they chose Sam as captain with out fighting so technically they chose her over Tory regardless. Cuz even tho sam would have won , Devin should have had a chance to fight Sam in replacement for Tory .
but like kreese doesnt deserve to be in prison in the first place and you forgot that robby and the rest gave camera footage to the police were we can see silver beating up stingray so i think he aint a wanted criminal no more
My theory; Miguel n Johnny both leave Miyagi Doh and for different reasons; 1) Johnny to retake Cobra Kai n boost his ìncome 2) Miguel leaves to win n boost his academic reputation for college acceptance plus he could rehookup with Tory. Plus...the show is called 'Cobra Kai'...🤷♂️ 3)Miguel, Tory n Devon will rejoin Cobra Kai after she confesses n gives Kenny her place rightfully after her shitty(pun intended) move😂😂😂
Danny and chosen was gonna go half’s on the name and logo . Before they could say that Johnny conceded and let them keep the whole name. So yes Johnny is the person that didn’t get anything out of that. Dude in the black hat is right.
No, Danny convinced chosen to let Johnny win and allow themselves to be called Eagle Fang but Johnny conceded first and let them go with Miyagi do. Re watch the episode.
Daniel is just awful. He's the reason Cobra Kai won the tournament in the first place. It wouldn't even have been close if it wasnt for Daniel being so stuck in his ways. He didn't learn his lesson
We can play the whos fault game all way back to the person that decided to open pandora’s box (cobra kai)it all starts there. So this reasoning is wack.
@@lemarcash I said it was Daniel's fault they lost the tournament. Johnny reopening Cobra Kai has nothing to do with the point. Cobra Kai trained specifically to trap/counter Miyagi-Do moves. Had Daniel not been so stuck in Miyagi-Do only, Cobra kai wouldn't have gotten close. They didn't know what to do when Miyagi-Fang went on the offensive. Cobra Kai trained in Miyagi-Do, but their defense was still way behind their offense with the exception of Robby, and even he was caught off guard when Hawk put him on defense.
@jp3813 the last rounds were rigged. There were too many fights going on with different refs. A lot of Miyagi-Do were doing well but were undone by CK knowing their moves. For example, Chris was 2-2 with Kyler. When Sam went aggressive against Piper, she was shook. Undeniable points the refs couldn't be biased against even if they were paid off, just like Sam/Devon. Miyagi-Do and Eagle fang could have had way more fights to where it couldn't have been so close as to where it came down to the finals
@@elsannin14121 Even Devon found a way to cheat this season w/o having to pay anyone. Silver would've rigged the tournament earlier if he felt they were in danger.
ima be honest i disagree with yall with the johnny thing cause that would have helped her and they would have never lost her to kreese johnny said that it would have helped him if he would have fought for 3 rounds so how can yall say that johnny is being immature johnny the only one who actually cares about his students daniel only cares about the miyagi name thats all fighting same maybe but at least let her fight johnny untill tory get over it bro like yall not actually thinking about it johnny is doing the right then and for people to say johnny is wrong is crazy people dont get over mother death just with talking about it bro thats how people kill them self so im on johnny side with this one me personally when my dad die all i wanted to do is get back into boxing and fight so i did like yall gotta understand people get over families death different
@@mrfreshest4608 eh not really lol. the reason she's in cobra kai is because kreese manipulated her into thinking miyagi do never has her best interest.
I totally disagree with 3/4 of you guys the one dude hit it right on the button. From day one of this show Daniel has always said his way is the right way no other way is right hell even his own daughter disagrees with his own thinking he is narrow minded and totally bias to his way period one problem I have with Daniel is when he picked his 6 he left Tory off his list seriously this guy has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to what is right or wrong because its not the karate its the teacher that makes it or breaks it. All the kids have learned some Cobra Kai there not evil or bad kids but Daniel acts like Cobra Kai is evil which means all of them would have darkness period with his thinking sorry bug Daniel is the worst sensei he is so blinded to the truth the funny part is I bet his own teacher was in Cobra Kai I wouldn't be shocked if he was best friends with Young at one time. The fact Daniel didn't even have his own daughter fight even Lee for captain he just gave it to her makes him bias against Tory no chance I let him decide anything he always wanted Sam captain he even wanted to leave Tory off the team from day one! Sorry but Tory is better then Sam in every aspect she is faster and stronger and bigger the only thing Sam has is her daddy last name. Just saying You could argue the six could be Robbie and Miguel , Tory and Hawk with Sam , Demetri or Kenny in last two spots notice I didn't just give Sam a spot she would have to earn it for me Hawk beat Robbie and Tory beat Sam no matter how ya cut it that's what happen in that Tourney we had one bad call by a ref deal with it we see it in every game in every sport played winners find a way to win Sam had not one but two chances afterwards to score that 3rd point and failed so she lost period. To me Daniel Leaving Tory off his 6 shows complete bias !
In this case Johnny was right. They should’ve just let her work through it but let’s be real they were worried about her hurting Sam. She just lost her mom and it looked like they were taking the one thing she has left. I mean look how quick they were to hand captain to Sam. Nobody ain’t even check up on the girl. Winning that captain battle actually could’ve had a good effect on her and feel a bit better about the way her life is going. She’s right if it wasn’t for Johnny intervening Daniel would’ve definitely handed it to Sam because he always believes his way is superior to everyone. Let’s be real even though Silver paid off the refs she would’ve beat Sam because she has heart and karate is all she has left unlike Sam.
Not if Robby gets injured. Then, Miguel could be the captain. Also, there is a leaked photo of Xolo Mariduena wearing the Sekai Taikai captain's headband and in a Cobra Kai gi. It could be a misdirect by the writers of the show, but who knows? Maybe somehow it comes down to Miguels vs. Robby for the championship.
