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Tories face worst ever election defeat | Peter Kellner 

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Former president of YouGov Peter Kellner tells Andrew Neil the gap between the Conservatives and Labour has “narrowed’ but still remains “enormous.”
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@richardgale1287
@richardgale1287 3 дня назад
Stop saying 'supermajority'. It’s meaningless.
@lesterfalcon1350
@lesterfalcon1350 3 дня назад
Andrew Neil has been pushing that words so much. Even when interviewed by the others on Times who have called out the term, they don't pick him up on it
@penderyn8794
@penderyn8794 3 дня назад
People talk about the labour party as if it's the labour movement. The Labour party will now be the biggest defender of the current London focused establishment and it's small group of elites..... There is nothing radical about the modern Labour party
@jmcw9632
@jmcw9632 3 дня назад
supermajority🐒
@TimComley
@TimComley 3 дня назад
No it isn’t
@sirbarringtonwomblembe4098
@sirbarringtonwomblembe4098 3 дня назад
@@TimComley The term has no meaning in UK politics. It was coined last month by Grant Shapps, & is now employed as Tory propaganda.The Tories had a majority of 80, but they did not call that a Super Majority. Is 82+ one?
@damianleah6744
@damianleah6744 3 дня назад
Fully deserved for being toxic and lying. The misdirection and blame shifting from this government as 14 years of their administration has nothing to do with how people feel is ridiculous and jaw dropping.
@jsmcbach5935
@jsmcbach5935 3 дня назад
Why can't the Tories understand how they have come to be so hated?
@richardruff8712
@richardruff8712 3 дня назад
Because they are all in Total Denial......
@GG-hu9dn
@GG-hu9dn 2 дня назад
Because they are pyscopaths ?!
@paulmatley8818
@paulmatley8818 2 дня назад
Why can't voters understand that Sunak and Starmer are Davos Bunk Buddies. Starmer will pick up exactly where Sunak ended. He'll accelerate the rot.
@richardruff8712
@richardruff8712 2 дня назад
@@GG-hu9dn Do you mean psychopaths ? ( just checked on google )... Yes... The definition is remarkably close to our wonderful batch of Tory MP's.... In about 12 hours time, we shall see what the voters have made of all these failures... I shall stay up, in the hope of many ' Portillo moments ' and I suggest we all record the events after 10 pm... Exciting, isn't it ?
@NigelThompson-hb5jg
@NigelThompson-hb5jg 2 дня назад
You have no idea of hate - give it 6 months and see how the public react to Labour
@williamdunn5544
@williamdunn5544 3 дня назад
The drift from Labour to LibDems is a sign of tactical voting and so damaging to the Tories
@mdnickless
@mdnickless 2 дня назад
I totally agree. There are a lot of Conservative seats facing a serious challenge from the Lib Dems. It makes total sense for Labour supporters to help make that happen. It doesn't represent a lack of faith in Labour at all.
@stephfoxwell4620
@stephfoxwell4620 3 дня назад
I think I am speaking for most people when I say ........ Absolutely fantastic.
@theunexplainablecrumbs4387
@theunexplainablecrumbs4387 3 дня назад
If the Tories really do suffer a huge loss it will be interesting to see a different party in opposition for a change
@gio-oz8gf
@gio-oz8gf 3 дня назад
It will take much longer than five years for the British people to forget what the Tory Party has done to them over the last 14 years. Kellner is removed from the hardships that most of us face. In 2019, the Tories received 13.97 million votes from an electorate of around 46 million people. That means that seven out of every ten people registered to vote didn't vote for the Tory Party, or only three out of ten-fewer than 30%-did vote Tory. I don't remember anyone raising the issue back then.
@chrispalmer7893
@chrispalmer7893 2 дня назад
It'll also take a lot longer than five years for the Tories to "get their act together". It's remarkable that Labour have been able to do that, and they did that by electing a centrist leader. The Tories will almost certainly veer to the right and probably need a second thrashing before they'll come to their senses and return to the middle ground.
@coastalsandwich
@coastalsandwich 3 дня назад
Andrew Neil really brought this station down a level, he's an awful toad of a man.
@accomuk
@accomuk 3 дня назад
I dont think the Tactical Voting of Labour supporters for Liberals in the South is being taken into account by Mr Kellner.
@stephenwhiddett
@stephenwhiddett 3 дня назад
These people ignore tactical voting - a fair number of people who want Labour in power will be voting Lib Dem as they will be the only realistic competition against the Tories is some areas
@rorysparshott4223
@rorysparshott4223 3 дня назад
It's difficult to know exactly the amount of tactical voting, but the MRP polls do try to account for it
@lovejetfuel4071
@lovejetfuel4071 3 дня назад
Don't get complacent, VOTE! No votes have been casts yet
@tomnorton7817
@tomnorton7817 3 дня назад
Overall polls have narrowed, but there has been plenty of evidence in various MRPs that this is because people are preparing to vote tactically... so Labour voters more willing to vote Lib Dem in particular if it means ensuring no Conservative winner in their constituency.
@MurphyOCP-001
@MurphyOCP-001 3 дня назад
Vote share doesn’t matter, only seats won matters.
@catherinebutler4819
@catherinebutler4819 2 дня назад
In one sense you're right, but a system where "vote share doesn't matter" has a serious problem, at least if it has pretensions to being called a democracy.
@sbrown314
@sbrown314 3 дня назад
The guy whiffles on for 9 minutes without mentioning tactical voting. Could that be the reason why the Labour vote appears to be only 39%?
@JesterEric
@JesterEric 3 дня назад
Yeah, people dont trust them
@fLaMePr0oF
@fLaMePr0oF 3 дня назад
There's no such thing as a 'super majority' in British politics, AS ANDREW WELL KNOWS.
@domm1341
@domm1341 3 дня назад
We are slowly being Americanised. We used to say “Landslide” now we say “Super majority”.
@BJWT1047
@BJWT1047 2 дня назад
Right wing clowns have given us this needless Americanism.
@sirloin8745
@sirloin8745 3 дня назад
Only now do the Tories consider the electorate!
@Stephanie-wf6xr
@Stephanie-wf6xr 3 дня назад
Good, we will deal with the Cons, just like they dealt with the voters Goodbye Risky soon sacked😂😂
@tenniskinsella7768
@tenniskinsella7768 3 дня назад
Oh shut up stsrmer will be a ightmare y for viting fir a dictatorship
@bigchinkid9052
@bigchinkid9052 3 дня назад
Copium dosage is strong with this guy
@JamesRoyceDawson
@JamesRoyceDawson 3 дня назад
Why do you guys never talk about tactical voting? The loss of labour votes is in areas where the Lib Dem’s are the more viable candidates so it’s the anti Tory alliance making it even worse for the cons, not stepping off the gas
@alexvince461
@alexvince461 3 дня назад
You'd have to be delusional to think the Tories can get their act together in 4 years, assuming there's any left
@richardruff8712
@richardruff8712 3 дня назад
Yes, at the moment, I doubt if there is such a thing as a ' safe Tory seat ' any longer... I guess that EVERY Tory MP is running scared of the voters... We shall see how many of those failures survive on Friday morning... I predict lots of the famous ' Portillo moments '.... I suggest we record it all on TV....
@Peepsuk1234
@Peepsuk1234 3 дня назад
It really feels like when the tories benefit from the quirks of the first past the post system it’s never mentioned. Labour seems like they’re going to benefit and all the commentators are tying themselves in knots almost hinting for proportional representation. Be careful what you wish for.
@teacherdude
@teacherdude 3 дня назад
"For you Tommy, the war is over"
@richardc513
@richardc513 3 дня назад
It's just a sign of tactical voting on the centre left. The Labour vote has drifted a bit towards the Lib Dems and Greens - a sort of DIY proportional representation.
@joelthomson8697
@joelthomson8697 3 дня назад
Andrew Neil is like a lesser known Mike Myers character.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 3 дня назад
HAHAHAHA
@bc5295
@bc5295 3 дня назад
@@piccalillipit9211 Even after admitting there's no such thing.
@simonbird8093
@simonbird8093 3 дня назад
I assessed palliative care cases, who knew they were going to die alone, whilst the Tories held parties, and when caught out, proceeded to lie through their teeth about it. Point is it has reached the stage where you can't support the Tories and continue to pretend that you're a good person.
@sparkuuu
@sparkuuu 3 дня назад
This is a strange conversation. 4 in ten reject the two parties. Labor is at 40% (per their numbers) by itself. It’s the Tories who have fallen so far. If labor and tories were equal, then they’d have 8 in 10 voters supporting the two main parties. So it’s strange to say that people aren’t enthusiastic about labor and group them together with the tories as if the public’s apathy is equally split between the two.
@bigmol1633
@bigmol1633 3 дня назад
I love you ve the fact everyone is going on about "ah its cos reform are splitting the vote" - as if the elft vote hasnt been splut for decades.
@JoeWedgwood-ik9zo
@JoeWedgwood-ik9zo 3 дня назад
Bye bye thanks for nothing 👋
@TimComley
@TimComley 3 дня назад
You won’t be missed
@alexvince461
@alexvince461 3 дня назад
Andrew Neil is talking about a supermajority like a good little tory
@Jim90117
@Jim90117 3 дня назад
"Ancient" is abit much, what were the Tories canvasing when Tutankhamun was knocking around?
@DaleHanson-nw9yc
@DaleHanson-nw9yc 3 дня назад
Good
@onenote6619
@onenote6619 3 дня назад
Only one poll matters and that happens in the voting booth. Don't assume the outcome. Get out there and make it.
@AntonyBall-hm4jo
@AntonyBall-hm4jo 3 дня назад
This country has been going backwards throughout my 64 yrs due to very poor government by both the Tories & Labour - it will continue for the next 5 yrs....and we will be in more debt. We are about to see parish councillors run the country .....what disaster looms?
@richardruff8712
@richardruff8712 3 дня назад
Yes, agreed... I am 67, and can just remember the Wilson and Heath years... I also think that ALL the politicians have been getting worse and worse in quality, as the decades have gone along... These Tories are simply NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE...
@disasterarea9341
@disasterarea9341 3 дня назад
i would note with the 40% shunning the two main parties... that number would be higher without FPTP, as yougov has shown around 20% of voters voting tactically this election - under a more proportional system the greens could be getting around double what they are on now nationally.
@chrispalmer7893
@chrispalmer7893 2 дня назад
The narrative Labour need to focus on is very clear. They just need to say "It took the Tories 14 years to do all this damage, it'll take a long time to fix it"
@mickyredeyes6220
@mickyredeyes6220 2 дня назад
Toty bellemd that's disillusioned and praying for the tory gifts that they had for the last 14 years
@martinb2213
@martinb2213 День назад
Labour haven't nearly bankrupted the country for quite a while now, its about time we gave them another chance. Just make sure you set up a fixed rate mortgage very quickly.
@barriewilliams4526
@barriewilliams4526 3 дня назад
Liebour should take note of what is happening to the Conservative Party, as it very well might be their turn for the same treatment next time around. Ignore the people at your peril! We need a strong opposition to keep Liebour half honest, and the only party capable of doing that is Reform. Vote Reform👍
@oldgreybeard2507
@oldgreybeard2507 3 дня назад
It wuz the Sun wot won it for Labour
@sirbarringtonwomblembe4098
@sirbarringtonwomblembe4098 3 дня назад
Phew!! They left it a bit late this time!
@vincentvangogh8092
@vincentvangogh8092 3 дня назад
noone reads the papers anymore thats a problem the tories have
@delinquentinparadise
@delinquentinparadise 3 дня назад
No doubt in my mind that the Conservatives are going to get what they so richly deserve. But will they learn a lesson from their defeat ? Somehow I doubt it. Vote Reform.
@czarekp3552
@czarekp3552 День назад
Neal in mourning
@MightyCraicDJ
@MightyCraicDJ 3 дня назад
tactical voting - hello?
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 3 дня назад
Conservatives get there act together pfffffffff don't make me laugh The Tory Party Brexit's latest victim
@brianmarshall7833
@brianmarshall7833 День назад
The lesser of two evils is evil . labour will be so bad they will be back to Tories Who would have thought.
@jonesyjones7626
@jonesyjones7626 3 дня назад
Those people who put Sunak into his safe seat which has had no cultural, geographic or professional link to and then imposed him as leader are to blame. Sunak has never won a political fight or real vote. They are getting their just rewards now for ignoring their voters and backstabbing their way to the top.
@rde4017
@rde4017 3 дня назад
Bring it on.
@thehealinggame
@thehealinggame 2 дня назад
Tbh i like Starmer and would never vote Tory ever again
@mikkelclemmensen381
@mikkelclemmensen381 3 дня назад
Here we go again. May I remind you that the numbers you are referring to show Labour getting 40 percent of the votes and the Tories getting 20 percent. Not much to argue about, I would say.
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 3 дня назад
Rather than have forty percent of voters votes resulting in zero representation, a decent form of PR would allow the vast majority of electors votes to count for something.
@ScruffyTubbles
@ScruffyTubbles 3 дня назад
The Tories wil be back quicker than one can say "Lets have a Downing Street party during COVID". Trust me.
@annarichardson7794
@annarichardson7794 3 дня назад
Dont care still voting for Reform
@alanpartridge1385
@alanpartridge1385 2 дня назад
Not sure why people think it matters that, for example, Labour have dropped below 40% and fhe Tories have risen above 20%. This isn't a national election. It doesn't matter what the overal national vote share is, the only thing that matters is the vote share in the individual seats. As an example, how does the Labour vote dropping by 2% affect the outcome tomorrow in Tower Hamlets, or Sunderland Central, or Wigan? It isn't relevant, which is why we've shifted to MRP modelling, which is slightly better but still takes more or less no notice of any local factors. As an example, which MRP poll would have predicted Martin Bell's 1997 win in Tatton? None. So excuse me for taking this with a huge pinch of salt. The UK isn't even a single country, and within the four countries that comprise it there's very little cultural similarity between a stockbroker from Surbiton and a taxi driver in South Shields, or a lawyer in Edinburgh and a bricklayer in Glasgow.
@gullygullible9774
@gullygullible9774 3 дня назад
Native's tonight will be running to the public toilets to shore up their position the land beneath them has shifted 😊
@GarethMachin-rb2sg
@GarethMachin-rb2sg 3 дня назад
When will Andrew Niel stop using the expression "super majority " ? As a die hard tory he will spin for them to the bitter end l suppose. When the next election comes it will be totally different. Votes at 16 easier for younger people to vote. No voter suppression tactics etc
@Jimbo878
@Jimbo878 3 дня назад
I really hope in this GE that the english can find a way to get over themselves 😢
@mcorbett01
@mcorbett01 3 дня назад
Peter Keller needs better broadband!
@pataleno
@pataleno 3 дня назад
I’ll never vote Labour again. I’ve never voted for the Tories Reform get my vote.
@Lynnefromlyn
@Lynnefromlyn 3 дня назад
So you want Fascism then. We don’t.
@paulbrewin6453
@paulbrewin6453 3 дня назад
all planned
@clivemcquire7686
@clivemcquire7686 3 дня назад
The Tories are finished, maybe for good. We need to start a movement for change. Vote reform tomorrow.
@simonbird8093
@simonbird8093 3 дня назад
No, I'm not a racist.
@utwhaleandash
@utwhaleandash 3 дня назад
Tories wont be back for a generation, expect long painful years in the wilderness. We probably wont see them until the 2040's....................HAPPY DAYS.
@alexvince461
@alexvince461 3 дня назад
Maybe we can get over our habit of doing whatever posh people tell us to do
@tenniskinsella7768
@tenniskinsella7768 3 дня назад
People are nuts to vote starmer. Parents dont conplain about what your children are taught y voted for it. Women dont complain ablut less womans rights y voted for it.savers dont complain when your savings are taxed y voted for it
@andrewneill4279
@andrewneill4279 3 дня назад
The IFS says you must vote GLOBAL REVOLUTION PARTY.
@Silver-st2zq
@Silver-st2zq 3 дня назад
👍😁🎉
@robc7162
@robc7162 3 дня назад
Way oversimplified commentary. Tactical voting is going to be massive this election with Labour voters lending their votes to Lib Dems to help oust the Tories and vice versa. Whether the Greens will also do the same remains to be seen but there are many marginals where the Labour/Tory vote is very close and the Green vote could save the Tories.
@tenniskinsella7768
@tenniskinsella7768 3 дня назад
I dont hate them Our economy is better inflation is down. Do you hate rishi for saying children under 9 shoulnt have sex education at all Covid would have been more lockdowns under. Surely you u derstand tbst covid effected waitingisys Seei g worst nhs is in wales run by labour what makes y think labour will improve the nhs i dont hate sunsk i hate starmer
@In_Paradiso58
@In_Paradiso58 3 дня назад
"That's the CON Party DEMOLISHED...NOW for those with Ears to HEAR and Eyes to SEE, LISTEN UP: SET MY PEOPLE FREE, that they may be FREE INDEED to choose to follow Me or the 'other guy', as they so DESIRE", thus sayeth the KING of the HEAVENLY HOST... OVER n OWT...
@Silver-st2zq
@Silver-st2zq 3 дня назад
🙄
@seethrough1207
@seethrough1207 3 дня назад
Between bad and worse ,I vote for Conservative. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't (SHARIA LAW ,NO WAY)
@martinvairy5587
@martinvairy5587 3 дня назад
Vote reform.
@richardmarsden5610.
@richardmarsden5610. 3 дня назад
NOPE. I'm voting Labour the peoples party. #MESA #Make_England_Socialist_Again
@CaptainAutizmo
@CaptainAutizmo 3 дня назад
@@richardmarsden5610. PD File
@john8451
@john8451 3 дня назад
How’s Brexit going? 😂🤣😂
@DiRtYLaWs2007
@DiRtYLaWs2007 3 дня назад
NOPE 😂
@nigelhard1519
@nigelhard1519 3 дня назад
Nope
@johnnyhock
@johnnyhock 3 дня назад
R E F O R M ✔️
@Hariharan24982
@Hariharan24982 3 дня назад
Vote Tories, vote for Rishi Sunak.
@bevkaveri3916
@bevkaveri3916 3 дня назад
Vote Reform people 🎉🎉🎉
@Paul-md8de
@Paul-md8de 3 дня назад
Ah "deform" ...pootins puppet 😂
@Paul-md8de
@Paul-md8de 3 дня назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@boota1979
@boota1979 3 дня назад
@bevkaveri3916 We have had 14 years of misery why on earth would we want more of the same?
@richardmarsden5610.
@richardmarsden5610. 3 дня назад
I'm voting Labour the peoples party. #MESA #Make_England_Socialist_Again
@john8451
@john8451 3 дня назад
Scummy racists play no part in a modern Britain!
@johnpaultrainer8086
@johnpaultrainer8086 3 дня назад
I won't be voting for blue or red Tories.
@Gramsci
@Gramsci 3 дня назад
Then you’re voting for Blue Tories
@richardmarsden5610.
@richardmarsden5610. 3 дня назад
I'm voting Labour the peoples party. #MESA #Make_England_Socialist_Again
@johnpaultrainer8086
@johnpaultrainer8086 3 дня назад
@richardmarsden5610. It's also a general election, so it doesn't really just effect England now does it?
@eightiesmusic1984
@eightiesmusic1984 3 дня назад
Tories out, red Tories in. Thatcherism is safe in the hands of the vacuous Starmer project. Thatcher would be delighted with a Labour victory because her legacy is guaranteed.
@richardmarsden5610.
@richardmarsden5610. 3 дня назад
I'm voting Labour the peoples party. #MESA #Make_England_Socialist_Again
@Rick-xp5sy
@Rick-xp5sy 3 дня назад
I don’t want to see raynors smug face! Labour is a nightmare we can do without!
@mr_sher1749
@mr_sher1749 2 дня назад
Get out hindu!!!
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