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Toro GTS 6.5 Wont Start How to Troubleshoot and Repair The Engine 

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@tmwmeridian
@tmwmeridian Год назад
Completed this repair today, took less than 30 minutes, thanks to your video. Started on 3rd pull.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms Год назад
That's awesome! Thanks for the feedback.
@joeonejoeone
@joeonejoeone Год назад
I hadn't changed the spark plug ru-vid.comUgkx-6W-PtUzBRTmACHywsECak2ToY2OpjxN in my Toro 20" Recycler in the 6 years I've had it but have been good with all other maintenance. This season I noticed it sputtering a little bit every so often and just didn't feel like it was running as smoothly or as powerful as it used to. Switched out the spark plug for a new one yesterday and could immediately tell an improved difference. So I may have to make this a little more regular than every 6 years, especially for a $5 part!
@ravenlunatic7909
@ravenlunatic7909 3 года назад
know the post is 4 plus years old but truly one of the most helpfull..like 25 or so vid's..two had good input and helpful information..congrat's!..
@dannylinc6247
@dannylinc6247 2 года назад
If you don't have time and money like you did before covid, and you need to cut the grass, remove and clean the magneto with a wire brush. Get the metal surfaces clean of rust and corrosion. Be sure your kill wire is not chafed and grounding out when the safety bail handle is pulled and held. Don't use a plastic tie that has to be cut. Use a spring clamp or tie a rag so you can pull it off quick, just in case you're not of a mechanical or technical mindset. Clean the bosses where the magneto is screwed down. Inspect the magneto high tension lead at the spark plug connection to be free of corrosion. Install the old magneto and use a feeler gauge between .010" and .014". .012" preferred. A good name business card is usually .012" if you don't have mechanic tools. It also easily conforms to the flywheel. Clean the flywheel surface where it's magnet is and around it. Put the card or gauge between and install the screws. Let the magneto be drawn to the magnet with the card between. Tighten the screws hand tight with a nut driver handle. They can be fragile to overdoing it. Turn the flywheel by hand either way, usually clockwise from the top, so the card or gauge comes out. Turn the flywheel around to be sure there's no interference. Now, with the bail pulled and held and the kill wire attached, Retest for spark at a plugged in spark plug, cleaned and gapped at .030". If you have spark? You can put the machine safely together and continue trying to start.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 2 года назад
Thanks.
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be 3 года назад
I hadn't seen this anywhere else but recently I had a problem with my mower starting, running, and then quitting. New air filter, cleaned the carb and linkages. Replaced the new gas with newer gas. Same problem. Long story shortened a bit. The gas tank cap was the culprit. The vent holes had become clogged thus not allowing gas to flow freely out of the tank.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 2 года назад
Wow, that must have been difficult to troubleshoot. Glad you found the fix. Thanks for sharing!
@homelesstrader7906
@homelesstrader7906 2 года назад
So did you clean the gas cap out ?? And did it solve the issue ?? I'm having the same issue with mine ... Fired it up for the years first cut it worked fine for half the yard I went to work I turned my mower over to a buddy of mine he finished up the yard but stated that it had suddenly died on him they cleaned out the cut chamber and went back at it and now I can't get it to stay running
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be 2 года назад
@@homelesstrader7906 Yes, rinsed the cap in some gasoline, tapped it on the concrete, gunk out, air in. The mower has been working excellent now for the last year. I figured it out when I had forgotten to replace the cap and the engine didn't have any problems running. Ergo, the cap had to be the problem.
@homelesstrader7906
@homelesstrader7906 2 года назад
@@DK-ed7be thank you for the sound advice I did track the source of the problem with mine I ended up pulling the air filter out and boy was it nasty so I'm going to go ahead and replace the air filter and hope for the best like I said it was running fine for about half the yard and then died on me
@carrichard
@carrichard 7 лет назад
Thanks, I like your approach straight to the point. Your plane spoken explanation being straight forward with no lengthy dialog.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 7 лет назад
Thank you for the kind words Richard!
@sweetds1
@sweetds1 6 лет назад
Thank you! You explain everything so clearly that someone like myself can actually learn. Usually people explain like you should already know most things. Which I do not. Much appreciated. Thank you!
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
You're welcome. Thanks for the kind words.
@gradyhernandez4699
@gradyhernandez4699 3 года назад
Do a video.on a murray 626 on why self.propelled does not work
@rachelparis2892
@rachelparis2892 Год назад
I agree with this post. I am recently widowed - but ready to figure things out!
@Modeltnick
@Modeltnick Год назад
The safety switch on the side could also be an issue if the cable stretches.
@RaiseAkitas
@RaiseAkitas 5 лет назад
I find the easiest way is to get some starting spray and spray it into the carburetor and see if it starts. If it does then it is not an electrical problem.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
That's one way of doing it.
@thomasryan4697
@thomasryan4697 5 лет назад
I saw on another site that you can check out the magneto using a multimeter set to ohms. With a bad magneto the reading when connected to the plug lead and the magneto frame will be zero. On a good magneto the value will be more like .5 or so.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
I'll have to try that. Thanks!
@mariechristinapacheco
@mariechristinapacheco Год назад
Thank you you were super great at explaining ❤
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms Год назад
Thank you!
@josephbelczynski5342
@josephbelczynski5342 Год назад
your magnet gap should be the thickness of a business card, hell, your close to spark plug gap!!!!!!!!!!!!
@JohnDoe-pq8yw
@JohnDoe-pq8yw 6 лет назад
Nice video, thanks. I'm heading out to try it this.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
Hope if worked for you.
@djlopov359
@djlopov359 2 месяца назад
Greeting I have one question. I have the same machine (OHV). My pulling rope broke - start. Do you have such a video on how to change the rope? Thank you in advance.
@gtxhunter
@gtxhunter 4 года назад
Found this model used it was in poor condition. I replaced the carb, fuel line, air filter and it fired up but sounded like it was full open throttle when running. Mowed for about 2hrs no issues then I shut it off for a few minutes to go get water came back and it won’t start. I checked the spark plug and I do have spark, smell gas and actually got a little gas thrown on me when I pulled the cord. If I have spark does that mean the safety switch is working? Do you know? It makes full contact and clicks in. The reason I’m assuming it’s the safety switch is because when I let go the motor still runs but at a lower rpm “in noise” .Fresh gas in it. I have no clue what else it can be.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
If you have gas thrown at you, there is too much gas in the cylinder (flooded). Usually let it sit for 10 to 15 minutes and it will take care of itself. You can speed this up a little by pulling on the cord with the spark plug out. This will help to get the excess gas out. If you have spark, your safety shut off is not preventing it from starting.
@WillLockwoodStudios
@WillLockwoodStudios 3 года назад
And if it still doesn’t start get a compression checker
@David-ll8bt
@David-ll8bt 6 лет назад
Put a business card between the magneto. That will set your gap.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
I just learned that trick this year - an awesome hack. Thanks!
@OtayBuckwheat
@OtayBuckwheat Год назад
​@@greatescapefarms Post Card
@gonetodocs
@gonetodocs 7 лет назад
Dude great video and all especially since you fixed it! OOr Wait! Did you fix it? I guess we'll never know since you didn't start it on the video. If you make a 10 min. troubleshooting video in the future it might be wise to show that it truly starts and problem resolved. Still though it probably is fixing my problem so I shouldn't complain. Thnx nonetheless.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 7 лет назад
It did fix the problem and your advice is noted. In the future I will include the outcome. Thanks!
@nathanielfores8847
@nathanielfores8847 7 лет назад
Good video! Where does that Green grounding wire connect? I have been having trouble killing my lawnmower and unnoticed today this Green wife isn't connected to anything. Thanks!
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 7 лет назад
The green wire gets screwed into a the engine block for a ground. That is likely why you are having issues killing the engine, because the green wire is used to short the system out to stop the engine when you let go of the safety bar.
@gonaone
@gonaone 4 года назад
@@greatescapefarms Do lawnmower need green wire for staring the engine?
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
@@gonaone Actually the green wire is used as part of the safety mechanism to shut the mower off.
@Newlinjim
@Newlinjim Год назад
Follow your bale cable down to the mower flywheel. Watch the mechanical mechanism while you pull and release the bale, their is a metal arm that makes contact with a metal tab when you engage the bale. This tab has the wire attached to it and goes over to a spade connection on your coil. Make sure the tab with the wire makes contact with the metal arm when the bale is pulled.
@jonathanlitz2018
@jonathanlitz2018 4 года назад
I had a ariens push mower that wont start what I did is drained the fuel, replaced the spark plug, adjusted the ignition coil and checked the carb jet and cleaned It
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
That will usually fix most things. Thanks for the comment.
@mikeymike9616
@mikeymike9616 2 месяца назад
What is the purpose of that small rectangle hole on front right side of mower body? Mine used to have a black cover, but it fell off.
@WillLockwoodStudios
@WillLockwoodStudios 3 года назад
Thanks! I got one for free and I’m playing with it. The drive system is all messed up and stuck on. Can you make a video about that? Thanks!
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 3 года назад
Hi Will, I no longer have this mower. I gave it away about a month ago.
@amd65ak47
@amd65ak47 Год назад
If you want to know what the gap is between your ignition coil and the flywheel is a well-made business card paper of course stick it in between the coil and the flywheel push The coil against the flywheel with business card in between tighten the bolts that's roughly your gap I've been building lawn mowers from scratch and parts for 20 years It isn't rocket science It's common sense I do want to say these GTS Toro engines always do have a coil issue something about manufacturing when making the coils they seem to die. Never had a problem with a Briggs & Stratton coil One other thing with these Toro GTS motors is make sure your primer bulb on the carburetor is not torn or have a hole in it because of this happens the motor runs like s*** or won't run
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms Год назад
Thanks!
@jbossnack
@jbossnack 5 лет назад
Got this same issue...thanks
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
You are welcome.
@Dc423holly
@Dc423holly 4 года назад
I have the exact same mower and it has always given me a hard time starting it when its cold. It will run if I spray starting fluid in the carb and it runs fine after that but the initial starting is difficult. I put a brand new carburetor on it, new spark plug, air filter, and clean gas but its still hard starting. Could this also be the electrical part you changed giving me the same trouble? Let me know your thoughts, thanks!
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
I doubt it. If it works with starting fluid, then you electrical should be ok (you could still adjust the gap in the electrical system). I'd get fresh gas (not just clean, but new) and try that.
@andrewpope3920
@andrewpope3920 2 года назад
What model is yours? I need new drive wheels and need to make sure I get the right ones , I have that same exact personal pace mower!
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 2 года назад
I'm sorry, but I no longer have this mower. I made the video 3+ years ago and have since moved and left the mower with the house.
@mikeymike9616
@mikeymike9616 6 лет назад
What is that small square opening at front of mower body near the wheel for? Mine used to have a black cover but it fell off.
@mikeymike9616
@mikeymike9616 6 лет назад
Chris Dionisio Do you think missing this cap weakens the air flow? Please share info when you find replacement part. Thanks.
@rogerjoiner2271
@rogerjoiner2271 5 лет назад
its for the pulleys on the front wheel drive on a self propel lawnmower.........its all missing here, so now its a push mower
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 3 года назад
They used the same frame for both self propelled and push mowers. Mine was a push mower and it did have a cap, but that fell off years ago.
@jophillips2868
@jophillips2868 2 года назад
Ignition coil that connects to the spark plug.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 2 года назад
Yep.
@RussellBooth1977
@RussellBooth1977 7 лет назад
It could've been an issue with the kill switch wiring shorting to ground !!!! I picked up an old Victa Powertorque lawnmower which had no spark & it ended up being caused by the 2 kill switch wires inside the carby were getting shorted out. Someone on here was showing that a secondary resistance of 13 K ohms was no good & 9 k ohms was o.k. The one I've got measured at 14.85 k ohms & still ran the mower briefly because I have a fuel issue with the carby (it leaks & needs rekitting). That maybe because that coil is the newer style with the inbuilt ignition module rather than the older style coil where the module was external to the coil.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 7 лет назад
All good points. Thanks for sharing.
@marselolopez266
@marselolopez266 6 лет назад
Russell Booth gracias Tijuana BC México
@abdou6003
@abdou6003 5 лет назад
Good video , i have the toro gts-xl motor . from 2001 i took the top parts off to clean it all for matienece. when it starts it runs like someone hitting a hammer to tin any suggestions?
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
It almost sounds like the gap is to close on the flywheel. You may want to double check that.
@stevesmith6058
@stevesmith6058 6 дней назад
You don’t need a feeler gauge just get a business card I just done
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 5 дней назад
Thank you!
@jeffr6357
@jeffr6357 2 года назад
I have a toro recycler, 6.5hp GTS. I believe it is a techumsa engine, but no label anywhere to confirm. But I cannot get it to start no matter how many pulls I try. I have replaced the entire carburetor assembly (which includes the fuel jet bolt and new bowl), new spark plug, new air filter, and using fresh gas. I have used a spark plug tester to make sure I have spark, and I do have spark. I have ordered a new ignition coil, but not sure if that’s gonna be the fix since I am getting spark. Any thoughts on what I can do next?
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 2 года назад
If you have replaced the carb (assuming it was adjusted properly from the factory) and you have spark, the only other thing I could think of is bad gas or no gas. If the gas is older than 3 to 6 months, try draining it and putting fresh gas in. Also, check to see that you are getting gas into the cylinder. Do this by removing the spark plug and pulling the cord several times. You should smell the gas coming out of the spark plug hole. If not, see if you can find the obstruction.
@jeffr6357
@jeffr6357 2 года назад
@@greatescapefarms i appreciate that info and unfortunately I did start with fresh gas after putting in new carb. And I do smell gas at the sparkplug, so I feel like its getting gas moving thru it, but still does not want to start. I appreciate ur response.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 2 года назад
@@jeffr6357 Hmm. That sounds like a difficult issue you have that I have not run into before. If you figure it out, please let me know so I can continue my learning. Thanks!
@jeffr6357
@jeffr6357 2 года назад
@@greatescapefarms I would certainly do that, however I have exhausted all efforts and suggestions from others and nothing has brought this back to life, so im afraid it will be going to that great lawnmower graveyard in the sky. Thank you.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 2 года назад
@@jeffr6357 You are welcome. Sorry it didn't work out.
@M.Esfahani
@M.Esfahani 6 лет назад
Good job! I learned a lot. Thank you.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
You are welcome!
@thenolans7146
@thenolans7146 4 года назад
I paid $73.00 at a lawn mower store, lol now I know check Amazon
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
Yea, I love Amazon :)
@thomasgarrity2226
@thomasgarrity2226 6 лет назад
What is the electrical piece your replaced?
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
It is the coil.
@strategicservices9906
@strategicservices9906 Год назад
What is the name of part you replaced?
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms Год назад
It was the Ignition Coil for Tecumseh LV195EA LEV120 LEV100 34443A 34443 34443B 3443C Toro 22 Inch. Here is the Amazon link: amzn.to/3LGhJJK
@gradyhernandez4699
@gradyhernandez4699 3 года назад
A.local lawnmower tech said to.put a credit card for the airgap measurement
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 3 года назад
Awesome advise. I've also heard that a business card would work as well.
@gradyhernandez4699
@gradyhernandez4699 3 года назад
@@greatescapefarms yes a business card !
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 3 года назад
@@gradyhernandez4699 Thanks for watching and commenting!
@gradyhernandez4699
@gradyhernandez4699 7 месяцев назад
Business card*
@jbear1990
@jbear1990 7 лет назад
What year is this mower
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 7 лет назад
I don't have it in front of me, but from memory, I'd have to say it is a 2003.
@RaiseAkitas
@RaiseAkitas 5 лет назад
It's a coil.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
Thanks
@journeyquest1
@journeyquest1 6 лет назад
Poor design. Have one and nothing but trouble.
@jayryan7473
@jayryan7473 6 лет назад
journeyquest1 This is the easiest starting mower I have ever used. I'm not sure if this is Toro's design because I've used quite a few walk behind mowers and I've never found one that you could pull start with a pinky finger, and it's already 7 years old and we've never had anyone else do our lawn so obviously it's been put through the paces. Other than the bearings that we are about to replace this mower has held up great for us.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 3 года назад
Wow. I have had little trouble with mine over the years. 15 years and it ran great - only broke down twice.
@MrTvt9797
@MrTvt9797 2 года назад
No good. You don't know which part caused the problem. You said the old magnetic is good. Not smart
@lexitraughber4178
@lexitraughber4178 6 лет назад
how to srart
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
?
@Trackhoe075
@Trackhoe075 2 года назад
This was completely lacking quality
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 2 года назад
Yes, and I checked out your channel and saw "0" videos. Guess that makes you a real expert on video production.
@proyectocambio2689
@proyectocambio2689 5 лет назад
I don’t think it’s right to start a video explaining to fix something and don’t do it.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 4 года назад
Gotcha.
@marylynn6928
@marylynn6928 5 лет назад
Very dumb video. It would be you when you repair a engine to let people hear it run.
@greatescapefarms
@greatescapefarms 3 года назад
ok
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