It could be likened to Metra. I guess. The thing about GO Transit (acronym for Government of Ontario, and was funded 100% by the province for 30 years.) is the tracks aren't loops, like Chicago. Also, I think Metra was probably built specifically for this transit purposes, where as most of the track GO rides is owned by CN rail (yes, like the CN Tower... and I just found out, is majority owned by Melinda Gates (thanks to Bill transferring her all his stocks, which is 10.4%, and thus, th e largest single shareholder!)
@@I_am_Allan Metra doesn't have a loop. Your probably thinking of the CTA subway which has a loop in downtown. Also most of the track that Metra runs on is owned by either Union Pacific, BNSF, Canadian Pacific, or Canadian National.
@@Absolute_Zero7 If I remember correctly, most of those tracks were only acquired after 2006, the only exception I can think of being the Stouffville line north of Scarborough Junction.
The Niagara Falls service basically killed a faster and much comfortable VIA Rail service to the city. Once the Maple Leaf resumes, Niagara Falls will only have one VIA train in each direction. Many people do not realize there is a better option than a hard GO train seat for two hours to Niagara Falls. I'm hoping that when the new VIA passenger cars start arriving next year, VIA will restore the previously cut second daily trip to Niagara, possibly using the Budds still in service.
I'm totally fine with the GO train seats. It beats the alternative (bus). It's also so much more affordable than a VIA ticket. Can just tap a PRESTO card. There's also talk of bringing back the Port Dalhousie ferry to the city.
VIA left the corridor years before GO started running regular service in the corridor. The only exception was that VIA still operated the Canadian portion of the Amtrak Maple Leaf service from New York. GO has been far more successful than VIA ever was because they offer fixed, affordable prices, regardless of when you buy the tickets. And you don't need to decide in advance which departure you will take. They also achieve much lower operating costs per passenger because they don't have a needlessly tedious boarding procedure and they have fewer staff per train.
@@OntarioTrafficMan many people don't know about VIA, thus they only think there is/has been only one train option. Hard seats/small nasty washrooms/more station stops/no snack and drinks for sale versus VIA doing all of the above 200% better and getting families there faster so they spend more of a full day there before coming home (and faster), I'd take VIA. The thought of up to two hours on a GO seat each way is a huge deterrent for many people.
@@havenot3893it is frequent in the GTA. Not all service has been restored. NF is infrequent. It is also cheaper by planning ahead, just like an airline.
VU's general rule is that he only lists projects that have had the construction tendered. Unfortunately, a lot of projects that GO is building currently is hard to put on a map. Double tracking and Grade separations? Maybe you can add a 2 tone line to represent "frequent service"? Even then, just because the line is double tracked doesn't guarantee that the service expansions will happen upon completion, especially if the current staffing shortages persist. So much of it would just be speculation and assumptions that it's probably not worth it.
@@JasonParis I'm talking about timelines as in when they will be implemented. All Metrolinx has revealed is what they're planning on running when all is said and done. Even then, the planned frequencies are already known to be outdated. With the introduction of DB into the mix, it seems the plan is to run trains as frequently as every 6 minutes during rush hours, even 3 minutes on the LSW line.
I came across that in my research, but it only ran on a 3 hour frequency to Erindale. I didn’t feel that was enough to justify the “regular service” category.
@@VanishingUnderground Oh shit, it was that bad? Ew... Luckily there is a lot of interest from the Canadian and Provincal governments to get all-day, true all-day service back on the Milton line. It'll make my day trips to Toronto so much easier cause I normally have to drive 30mins to Clarkson GO rather than 5mins to Meadowvale GO
@@coastaku1954 Ye, if it did count you could arguably colour in the entire Barrie Line since (at least on weekends) it runs every 3 hours to Allandale Waterfront
Is Bart or Muni next? After that based on another comment Philadelphia. The only two cities that can cleanly be split into more than one part left are Chicago and New York.
i really hope metrolinx releases plans to expand outside of the golden horseshoe. i would love a GO service (bus, train, or boat) serving London, Ottawa, Sudbury, Sault Ste Marie, Bruce, etc to fill the gap left by Greyhound
@@vincentng2392 not frequent enough to be considered reliable, either VIA provides more frequency or Go should consider picking up services, thus removing some vehicles on the road
They have already started service to London, the issue is they can't build their own trackage or station platforms right now so they need to adapt to the current rail infrastructure. This currently means that the trains will have to slow down considerably, GO transit will need to manage freight delays and it will be very difficult to increase frequencies.
With the speed limits, a regular service to Ottawa doesn't make sense since its a 6h+ trip, so it can't really be used by commuters or anything. The dream is to have high speed rail which could cut the trip to 3 hr or less, but it'll be tough to get funding for that.
Etobicoke North is planned to be demolished and replaced with a new station at Woodbine Racetrack (Highway 27). That station is planned to have UP Express platforms and the city is considering to extend Line 6 there
VIA Rail, once the Maple Leaf portion of the line resumes, will have this service again. It was temporarily cut during the pandemic to allow infrastructure work. It had run for over twenty years. Much faster option to NF than a hard GO Train seat, has bigger and cleaner washrooms, and a cafe car. Wi-Fi is also available on the US portion of the route, all the way to New York City. No need for GO to cross the border as that's beyond a regional service mandate. Let VIA handle the national and international train services as they're been doing for years.
@@TrainMike2013 except for the amount of trips provided, 2 times a day really doesnt connect well, where for example Windsor Transit crosses over every 30 mins, it would be nice to see better connections so you might be able to watch a Sabres/Bills game or be able to visit Walden Galleria, either Amtrak needs to increase frequency or Go should certainly look into picking up the service even if just by starting to go to the Bus Terminal in Buffalo, as Greyhound is offering less service to Canada
@@gracos1989 if you follow rail news, Amtrak has announced they are working on Chicago to Toronto through Windsor vs the previous Sarnia routing. This would likely at least have a Hamilton stop where a transfer would be possible. VIA should be watching GO's demand and pricing and then come up with a value brand service to compete. Many European railways are doing this; they have their premier brand and then an economy version. I would bet that if VIA had an economy brand and ran trains to tourist spots, it would have a large number of riders, plus be an at par competitor to GO as they would have faster service due to less stops.
@@TrainMike2013 yes, i am aware but once again is frequency adequate enough to rely on this route, it should be if not every other hour, and it will probably have the frequency of the Maple Leaf twice a day
@@archivek4 GO is getting frequent, electrified service on most of its lines though. Euro style. Same with other NA agencies like CalTrain. It's not all doom and gloom.
@@archivek4 GO Transit will have all day frequent electrified service in the coming years, with trains every 15 minutes or better on the LSW, Kitchener, Barrie, Stouffville, and LSE lines. The current plans call for trains every 15 minutes to Oakville, plus some express services to Burlington and Hamilton, 10 minute service to Bramalea on the Kitchener Line, 10 minute service to Bradford and 30 minute service to Barrie, 7.5 minute service to Unionville and 30 minute service to Mount Joy, and 15 minute service to Oshawa. So no, I don't feel sad living here.
You missed something very important also October 2021 there was a New commuter Go train line that begin operation between Toronto and London Ontario On October 18, 2021
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My family frequently rides the go train to travel to Downtown Toronto. It’s very convenient because the travel time and the cost is significantly reduced and the experience of walking and the train is infinitely better than driving.
(9:34) I believe West Harbour was and still is a stub-track station. Thus, do Niagara Falls trains still have to enter and back out (to Niagara Falls) and back in (from Niagara Falls)?
Yes the trains drive past the starion and back in. It is incredibly frustrating and time consuming. Here's a video onboard a train doing the manoeuvre: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y7GhnSfsr-g.html
Yep. The tracks are planned to be extended onwards with the construction of Confederation GO, however while the construction contract has been tendered in early 2020, it has yet to be awarded.
@@Kishanth.J I may just have to visit some more. I do not recall York before construction, but remember Bay well, but now I know York better. Doesn't help that Bay looks like 40% done not complete.
Except for retail, the concourse is fully open. I don't use Bay as they don't have elevators for all platforms and I commute with a bicycle so it's York for me. I did pop in once, looks exactly like york concourse, not much except it takes the load of York concourse during rush hour.
Whats with the numbers you gave the routes, and why is Lakeshore East labelled as Route 9 even though there is no Route 8?. For the record, all of the lines used to have letters, with LSW being A, LSE being B, and Milton-Stouffville being C-G respectively. Maybe you could've used those instead?
I Refer to the line by their colours Lakeshore West-Crimson Lakeshore East-Scarlet Milton-Maize Kitchener-Pine Richmond Hill-Cyan Barrie-Indigo Stouffville-Tawny UPExpress-Olive
@@JustYannKun Way longer. It was made in like mid 2020, so its been over a year. That first video had a few mistakes, was only 720p and VU's production quality absolutely improved since then (it was his 2nd evolution video ever).
Those numbers aren't official in any way. This video is great, but I have no idea where VU got the numbers from. They do have a historical lettering system, but that's about it.
I have to say that I was shocked when I noticed how small the subway system of Toronto is. I have lived in Sydney and Melbourne on Australia and was impressed by how advanced their transit is down there!! On top they are also adding a metro line like in Paris (underground and yes it comes on top of the current transit that already exist in Sydney). On transit side, I am sorry to say but Australia does a much better job than Canada, even Vancouver! Now 2 years ago, I have been to Santiago de Chile! You know what??? They had 4 lines of underground trains! It is really not bad knowing that Chile is still a developing economy!!!!! Canada should do way better for wheee it stands now! It just shouldn’t be happy with “good enough” when it comes to transit! Even the French speaking Canadians in Montreal seem to be way better than Toronto in terms of transit system! And you know what is the worst or… the best???? Even AFRICA has some acceptable transit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HuNRmsF26_U.html
Excuse me, the guy is only talking about the regional trains and NOT including the downtown subway lines and streetcar (tram) lines. Furthermore, 2 more light rail lines are under construction. Plus 1 more subway line (relief line) under proposal stage.
The guy is only talking about the regional trains and NOT including the downtown subway lines and streetcar (tram) lines. Furthermore, 2 more light rail lines are under construction. Plus 1 more subway line (relief line) under proposal stage.
It's so odd to me to look at double level trains as they don't exist in the UK. Funny though how we have double decker buses and alot of other countries don't have them
It’s cause cn freight trains out west operate on the northern section but I agree at least make it all day service to old cummer which is just south of where freight trains run
GO/Metrolinx is making a big mistake by adding more and more stations to existing lines. For example, two new stations are going to be added to the Barrie line. One at Innisfil, the second I can't remember right away. Travel times from Barrie to Toronto keep increasing because of this, and are even longer in the winter. As someone who lives in Barrie and used to take the GO train to Toronto for events and such, I won't be using it any more. It now takes 2 hours or more to use the line. I can be at the northern most terminus for the TTC subway in 45 minutes (by car), and it's another 25 minutes on the subway to get where I need to go. Or, I can drive all the way into the downtown core. The parking charge is still less than the $31.00 round trip on the GO train.
As GO increases service they are also increasing the variety of service. There will be express trains from Barrie to Toronto and local trains from Aurora to Toronto. The express trains will make limited stops south of Aurora
Something to consider is the fact that GO is being electrified which will SIGNIFICANTLY improve travel times on the line. With electric traction, trains will be able to accelerate MUCH faster than they do today, and as such even with all of the additional stations being planned, travel times should still improve over what we see today.
