@@msw7021 nobody can afford downtown city centers anyways i dont see the problem- its not like gentrification of a poor or poc neighberhood its the business/office district 🗿
Everyone agrees on this, except the people making them. The developers and architects that are make more money off the cheap glass box's that make are skyline all green and blue then nice stone and brick/concrete buildings.
Is this outpacing New York? I realize New York has height on its side but WOW. This is just the CBD of Toronto. Very impressive to say the least. I'm interested to know how long Toronto can keep this up.
In terms of units under construction, yes outpacing NY. It'll continue as long as immigration keeps outpacing housing supply, which based on current projections, it will
Finally a youtuber who focuses on Toronto Condos. I've been telling my friends for years that Toronto condo boom hasn't even begun! Subscribed and Liked!
@@Longliverock-qx4hf i highly doubt that cities, especially Toronto, will lose population over the next few decades. This is the top destination for immigrants in north america and that hasnt changed. The people just wont be physically here due to the pandemic in the short term, but that will turn around. You live under a rock if you think that.
I like Condos but having too many condo only buildings become boring over time like Vancouver good to have mixed buildings with commercial the ones TORONTO has are too old newer super tall are needed to balance the skyline.
Geez from a practical liveable stand point I don’t want to live in a building where my windows look on to another person’s unit a few metres away. I also despise the trend of merging the kitchen and living space into one where couches face stoves. At what point do developers actually make liveable spaces or is it all for wealthy people to park cash?
@@sonicfan82 , do your homework. Move to Russia or China and you will figure it out. We don't need you here. There's lots of countries doing this already, I suggest u go try it out.
john taylor yeah,I did made a pretty rude comment about that.honestly I don't want communism here in Canada because after a while the power will get to our head.
@@johntaylor-lo8qx you do realize how developed china is in terms of urban infrastructure. It makes toronto look like a village lol. Their cities are futuristic af.
I would be interested to see what goes ahead and of the existing projects how many will remain empty given current and future market conditions....the rental market in Toronto will be saturated given the number of people who are "moving out of central" rentals and commercial which is suffering greatly.
If you look at global historic patterns, core cities always recover first from disasters, pandemics, recessions etc. The temporary shift in demographic preferences due to Covid 19 and have started reversing and upcoming immigration targets + workforce requirements have already bought the tide back to Downtown.
The newer condo market in the 905 ("Downtown Markham" , Richmond Hill, etc) will get hit the hardest and see property values decline 50-60%. A condo in Markham would have never been considered feasible 15 years ago but it's only recently been propped up by the fake bubble economy and cheap money. If a small 1-2 bedroom condo isnt close to a subway line, it's going to see a huge decline
Great video! It's like a real-life version of Toronto in SimCity. If even some of these developments occur, the Toronto skyline will become even more impressive.
Great presentation, but let's face it, this is unsightly... city planners have ruined the city... no more culture, clubs, restaurants .. green space,, everything is one big condo.. thanks.. no thanks.
I could go on and on about how much $ the city of Toronto takes in the form of development levies, cash in lieu of parkland, etc, etc - and how rarely it ever gets deployed in an efficient or meaningful way to benefit the public - but thats for another video.
@@Precondo whether city cashes in on this over development or not, it does not take away from the fact that city is ruining the landscape.. in 10 years from now .. when we have no where else to build, we are going to kick ourselves about how we ruined our city...and what we are leaving behind for our children
@@nbmanifestations3699 there's a loooooooooot of transit being built or going through planning right now. Crosstown is being built. It will also have extensions to pearson and scarborough. Ontario line, Waterfront East/West LRT will all serve the downtown area. On top of that there's still the GO RER which will remove some pressure as it's essentially doubling the GO capacity for most of the city. It just takes so much time because the more built out an area gets, you have to work around more things, take more precautions and relocate more infrastructure.
@@rosstaylor1111 this is nonsense. wanna know what's ruining the city? single. family. homes. each of these towers take up what? the equivalent of 4-8 single family home plots? you think it's the towers that are the issue and not the houses? we spend so much upkeep for pipes, electricity, garbage disposal, roads for homes relative to towers where it's all centralized. you only take issue with it because they're over 2 floors in height. We have what? 300 towers? How about the single family homes? 850,000. You want to talk about ruining the landscape, start there.
That is good, cause honestly, Toronto just had way too many land wasted per one household before, and it’s totally understandable cause it wasn’t really a huge city back in time. But now since Toronto is getting more and more population whether to be immigrants or locals from the country, Toronto is definitely witnessing it’s mage city transformation, and such a city building method just isn’t applying anymore. That’s the reason why properties are getting more and more unaffordable in the city. It probably won’t be long before GTA region hits its 10 million population soon, and getting more high residents can definitely help with the current situation.
Dude you have no idea!!! The transit investment, especially in the east end is crazy. Welcome to the gr8 reset. We will double our population by 2030.... this is crazy..
As implied in your comment, it's going to be dangerous. The snow is going to add extra weight and given how all these high rises are being built within close proximity, damage may be more extensive than we can imagine. The collapse in one of the green roof buildings in Illinois and Hong Kong wasn't as tall as the proposed Toronto condo
Green roofs are mandatory on any new large buildings in Toronto, as a way to reduce storm water run off and lower the urban heat island. There have already been over 500 installed, and no collapses.
As a planner and urban designer, it's pretty sad to see the dt become an undefined cluster of unimaginable glass condos that do nothing for the skyline backdrop. Massing is also poor in graduating heights. There's no long term vision.
It's already such an urban mess, no character, ugly and massively overpriced. Cities that cost this much need to give something back, Toronto doesn't, it only erodes at the already low quality of life.
You know, I am not an Urban Planner, but I can, as a casual amateur with interest in modern architecture, tell you that you should not be an Urban planner. All cities of success reach skyward. I'll assume that you know why. Look at Manhattan. Wow. The Seagrams building was one clear example of arteeting science. 24 ct Gold flecks are burned into every pane of her window glass. Mies Van Der Rohe designed FCP and also, Chicago's Aon towers. And from a casual pov, they might look like soulless white marble monoliths, but in reality, they were so far ahead of theor time regarding earthbound force-resistance, Eco-frienliness, and artful construction.
We need a megatall building, that'll respect the CN Tower and other historic downtown buildings, something with a little modernism, and a gothic 1920s-1930s style. Something that'll put Toronto, Ontario, Canada back on to the map. Something that'll dwarf any and all upcoming super/mega tall buildings.
Your spot on, the 1,000 footers are not going to cut it. You need to have a couple of 1,200, 1300, footers, that will complete the transformation. Think Chicago.
@@Acccountable my thoughts exactly! I love old Chicago, but I'm thinking more on the lines of 5200 ft. There's some people saying that the Jeddah tower may be a mile instead of a kilometre
It’s cheap credit by central bankers. To make things affordable we need to stop making credit so cheap. The system is flush with money it inflates things like real estate.
@@Etaoinshrdlu69 Canada is my country and my home. I am Canadian, and its not about being happy or unhappy with real estate, its about my right as a good citizen. I make more than 70k and I find it sad even with a good salary like that I can't buy a home in my hometown yet. And now, I don't want to move anywhere, I love my country... don't sleep... you sound so simplistic.
@@cara1111 I agree with you 100%. Your average Canadian who even makes 150K a year is still going struggle buying a property. I agree with what you mean. As a good citizen, you pay your taxes to the country where you were born and raised in, yet despite doing well , unable to afford a property. It is time the Federal Government needs to evaluate who do they serve? Good citizens who were born and raised here, who built this country.
I don't think we'll get to that point in Toronto :( most buildings above 350m are build as a status or ego display, since the effective economic height for a skyscraper lands somewhere around 350m. Lots of (economically responsible, not Gulf) countries will build 1 or 2 above that height MAYBE, with many not doing so. Toronto doesn't exactly need a status/ego display, since we built ours in the 1970s! The CN Tower will forever be Toronto's "built in excess" landmark.
@@edgarsantos2550 Maybe but New York and Chicago both have many buildings 350-400 meters, I think Toronto could pull it off too if the stars align right.
@@edgarsantos2550 the CN Tower was not "built in excess". Not sure where your getting that from. The tower had to be that high so the t.v and radio signals would not be blocked by place like First Canadian Place.
@@C-mac_in_the_6ix Yeah Chicago has 15 going up with another seven planned, But yeah even if there weren’t any new buildings going up at all in Chicago 30 new buildings in Toronto once completed would make it slightly smaller than Chicago currently, Chicago has about 125 skyscrapers currently, Toronto has about 77, add another 30, still not bigger than Chicago, eventually it will pass Chicago but it’s going to take some time
@@augustusx82 For all it's crime problems, Chicago has an excellent lakefront , park and beach system which many in Toronto envy. The Chicago skyline remains superior to Toronto despite all the growth in the Canadian city in recent years. At some point, I think Toronto will rival and perhaps surpass the Chicago skyline but I don't think it will happen in the next 20 years.
@@jeffneptune2922 Toronto has 30 skyscrapers in construction and also being planned, Chicago has like 15 I believe, this would put Toronto skyline a few buildings ahead of Chicago upon completion
As a Montréaler, I am jealous of Toronto's skyline: we're having a skyscraper boom here too, but there's that municipal rule that says that no buildings should be taller than the Mont-Royal, which basically means no skyscraper should be taller than 200m...that's so ridiculous!!!
@@ashleyfaminial964 It still is.. that's why no building can be built higher than 350 or 400m rather. The recent Mirvish condos were 94 and 82 floors and got shaved down to 82 and 72.
Woulda coulda shoulda. At one time Montreal was Canada's largest city and economic capital but Quebecers voted for a separatist party in 1976 and all those corporate headquarters and economic capital left in droves. It's unbelievable how incredibly self destructive a people, province and government can be. Montreal could've been a world class city rivaling Paris, London and New York in economic and cultural status. Sadly Toronto took that spot and we're left with a American wanna be with no culture.
@@randymoyan4754 Yeah Montreal shot themselves in the foot with that move. They were way ahead of any Canadian city at the time. Remember, Montreal is older than Canada. The minute Toronto built the CN tower, it was a wrap fro Montreal as far as trying to be a major city again.
Toronto's rise hurted Detroit way more than it hurted Montreal: Toronto has a large uneducated but well paid labor class due to its automobile industry, which led to Toronto's rise as a financial hub,all of that at the expense of Detroit. If Québec separatism hurted Montréal, it has long recovered from it, and most real Canadien companies are still headquartered in Montréal, such as Air Canada, Bombardier, and of course, CN!!!!! And there's never been a time when Montréal was close to be in the New York-Paris-London-Hong Kong league.......
*He completely missed the fact that Rogers (prior to covid) was/is planning on demolishing the Rogers Center (Skydome), moving the Blue Jays to the site of the now-canceled Google (Sidewalk Labs) smart city location, and sell the Rogers Center property for condos !!!*
@@D.Bunker None of that is certain. While the Blue Jays were tossing around the idea of building a new stadium, there are no concrete plans, certainly none that involved sidewalk labs canceled location.
@@artvandelay3840 "The two companies would build a new stadium half the size on the southern part of the current site and use the remaining land for residential towers, office buildings, stores and public space, the Globe said, citing unnamed sources. Brookfield declined to comment on the matter. The Globe also reported that Rogers and Brookfield were exploring the possibility of building a stadium along the waterfront if the development plan falls through on a slice of land called Quayside, *where Google affiliate Sidewalk Labs* once hoped to construct a tech-savvy neighbourhood." ontarioconstructionnews.com/rogers-centre-owner-pauses-plans-for-toronto-blue-jays-stadium-amid-pandemic/
I am a commercial electrician and I looking at the Office Towers as this is good news for me as I could make it to retirement on these towers :) Currently I am on the CIBC project but we are in a Lockdown at the moment !! which you didn't mention in the video :)
What’s the time line on this Video as you would have to think Covid might have adjusted some of these projects , personally I like some of the High rise buildings in this town but maybe not for me to live in . I think this so called rush to the country is going to cool off plus Zoom meeting phobia is going to be a new medical condition very soon . Toronto is going to grow hard to argue that point and once Canada gets back the regular immigration numbers big Canadian cities will certainly see the initial input .
Too bad that no one can afford to live in these wonderful developments, well other than the wealthy and well connected... But great to see the compilation!
I was born here in Toronto in the late 60s, and I’ve watched my city slowly be devoured by ugly glass and steel boxes, with no aesthetic appeal, but most importantly, far too short. City Council, for whatever reason, is absolutely terrified to approve anything over 300 m tall, and given how precious land is, I will never for the life of me, understand why they constantly reject proposal after proposal, simply because they’re over 300 m tall, claiming that it might cast a shadow, of course it’s going to cast a shadow! That’s part of living downtown, if you want to see the sun, then live in the suburbs, this is one of the biggest cities in North America, we cannot allow such a stupid, irrational, and pathetic excuse to stop us from taking full of advantage of what little space is left available to build upon. Yet every single time a beautiful proposal for a super tall building, which is defined as any building over 300 m tall, is submitted, they instantly reject it, terrified it’s going to cast a shadow on a park, or a street...DUH! Of course it is, almost every skyscraper downtown already does just that, it’s an embarrassment on the international stage to have a city that is terrified to build over 300 m tall. They claim that the CN Tower is supposed to be the focal point, that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard in my life, every other city in the world doesn’t hesitate to build taller buildings around iconic structures in their own cities, yet our idiotic, antiquated city Council, remains in the dark ages, it’s time we got rid of the fossils that are holding us back, and bring in someone with vision, who can actually make Toronto a world-class skyline, perhaps even regain our title of having The worlds tallest structure once again. Unfortunately, that’s not going to happen anytime soon, because God for bid common sense actually takes president over blind ignorance. Frankly, I’m amazed they actually approved “the one” at Young and Bloor, because it just barely exceeds 300 m, I don’t expect too many more like it. I guarantee you, anytime an incredible proposal is put forth, city Council will, without fail, turn it down, and demand but they shorten the proposed building, and it drives me absolutely nuts! When, if ever, are these people going to realize that this is not a small hicktown, but a major metropolis?! Idiots!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Yeah it's very annoyinh and frustrating how they've gotten this far with cutting down almost every super tall tower in Toronto to just under 300 or 289m. It's absolutely ridiculous that shadowing is the excuse.
seriously - that is your main complaint? there were several towers in this video over 300 metres. the cost of building above that height can not be justified in Toronto - not enough customers could afford the prices.
I would love to see a 900metre monster on the opposite side of the dome from the CN Tower. One that is earth friendly with built in turbines and solar panels. Two giants standing tall.. Sadly, I don’t see it happening. The face of Toronto is the CN Tower and city council would never pass it. But I can dream...
thanks for all the effort putting this together... amazing that office buildings are still being constructed now that they want everyone working from home. I absolutely hate the Gehry buildings. they are completely out of context in that location and destroy that block of King in my opinion. and not sure what the chances of 1200 Bay actually being built are... I like the height and the slim profile but its just too close to the neighbouring proposal.
How many Canadians can afford to rent them? Who will pay for the new water pipelines? Plan's are in the works. Good thing the city councilor that looks after the downtown core happens to be connected in high end Real Estate Realtory. If Canadians cant afford to rent maybe we can bring in people who can. That failed. To much entry tax they went to somewhere they don't have to pay entry tax. Fact that people in Dubai are buying rooms. A win. They own out here it's considerd entry tax. That means $ still. Canadians can live to the side of the road or Fitch we were thrown to. Allot of Older Canadians that know the changes feal like this. But behaive polite and bear with it. Pretty sure if Vets from world war 2 new for most of their familys it would be like this now. Most would have put down their guns. And I think my father would have been one of them.
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I’m in Toronto after 20 years away and WTF is up with all the condominiums that litter the queen west/waterfront areas. I am so disappointed in Toronto. These buildings are an eye sore and some are built so incredibly close together. JUST GROSS. Where are they finding people to live in these buildings, there are so many being built right now.
Fastest growing city in North America The GTA grew by over 125k people in 2019 alone The hard part is getting enough units for our clients - not finding the clients for the units
@@Precondo I live in the area and so many of these units are EMPTY. I am presently in the process of buying in Toronto and have seen first hand how EMPTY these new condos are and yet still more buildings are being built. The Toronto skyline is now UGLY. I still can't get past who "okays' these projects as the buildings are so close together. Its so strange, who wants to live in a building with your another building just feet away from your bedroom window. NOPE!
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I can’t disagree with the assertion regarding Harbour 60 😉. Says a lot about a place when it merits a mention in such a sweeping analysis of upcoming projects. Also, I’d much rather live in a city that’s in such high demand for space than one suffering the opposite. Detroit, anyone? NYC has Central Park and it’s permanently off the table. We need to redevelop Ontario Place as an extension of the outstanding and exceedingly popular Trillium Park rather than a 9-story amusement park. All these new residents need a place to stretch out.
Chicago is just more interesting in architecture and it’s skyline is legendary. It’s lakefront, beaches and parks nonstop for 26 miles. Toronto is nice but you look at it and meh. And it doesn’t have a real people lakefront trail or feel. Disjointed.
@@Longliverock-qx4hf amazon, shopify, google and Netflix all leased more space in the last 12 months in Toronto Moreover McKinsey surveyed 800 executives and found most of them don’t see a contraction in their office space requirements
Honestly Toronto condo skyline I feel will have a huge pivot in the next 2 years. They will move away from smaller condos to luxury condos for the baby boomers.
To get the real feel of Toronto you must take a walk in the downtown core. The bums sleeping in doorways, the bums with their tents under the Gardner overpasses, the bums panhandling, the smells coming out of the sewers and people elbow to elbow on the sidewalks.
Have you not seen the area around Yonge and Eglinton recently - ridiculous amount of high rise condos/luxury rentals going up - horrible. I’m in a boutique condo, 8 storeys high completely surrounded by 32 storey buildings now, I can no longer see the shy in any direction!!!
Hi Jordon, since these towers are tall and will be very dense, from an investment perspective, I thought you prefer boutique projects targeting end users e.g. Freed AnX project
@@Precondo true. So from an investment thesis on the developments, would you consider any of these towers over the boutique builds or would you still direct your investor clients towards the boutique builds? Thx
Nothing concrete. I believe Covid put the kibosh on the Jays building a new stadium. It's possible something will happen in the future, but for now, nothing is imminent.
@@Precondo How come? Official city planning is also done in metric and there is a shift in real estate and architectual journalism in Canada such as urbantoronto.ca in sticking to using metric. Also, if customers buying into Canadian real estate are from abroad, wouldn't they also be more familiar with metric?
@@algonquin91 no idea, but until the avg person switches from using square feet as their indicator for size of a condo, I’ll be sticking to the accepted norm
Not necessarily. Mark Shapiro has already publicly stated that there were no definite plans. Plus, since there are no concrete plans, it's understandable that they wouldn't be mentioned in this video.
