TOSEVEN DM01 ASI BAC855 Time - CYC Photon is back from repair. 

but if it works more watts and performance than the stock CYC motors

Yeah. Right now the focus is to get something really good as stock. The update process needs to be streamlined. It's no where near as slick as the CYC app is. You are right in terms of price. It's too early to say. The CYC motors also seem to break alot so if these are reliable at high power.... Its all speculation until its on the bike. If might only last five minutes.

So why they would buy in th first place. Just buy a hub or bosch and don't stick out.

@@eXTreemator do either 'a hub or bosch' have torque sensing?

@@claverton Bosch? yes, always! Hubs sometimes but rarely.

If you want one it can be direct arranged via the companies thread on Discord. Ask for Olekz. The first US dealer is West Coast Electric Bike. I think the network will grow soon. In terms of the BBSHD it's the same number of stages as the TOSEVEN it's just different tooth counts.

Thanks for the Discord reminder @@HighVoltageKits - I need to "try again" to establish skills in using it. Looking at the image of the DM01 motor at 0:34, it really looks like a double stack - I guess that's not the case however. Regarding the CYC (I have two) it is really nice to ride "down low" speed-wise, which I've done with a Bosch owner, down around 10-15mph, and still have refined assist.

Yeah! Reliability is the key!

@@HighVoltageKits I got it 4000w out of a bbs02, but not for very long 😁

It should be interesting to try!

Cheers mate

I will be going over that in the video which will likely be Sunday

It’s to cold here in Canada at this point so I probably won’t be using it much for the rest of the year. I will definitely keep up with that channel and give my feedback with the CYC photon also. Definitely wanna put the thing through it’s paces. So far it’s been a fun motor but definitely sceptical about longevity.

I have had a hard time with my CYC photon. In order to troubleshoot the motor, I have had to buy various cables and a big solder gun, and I am going to learn to solder, so that I can remove all other possible causes of failure besides the motor. My 2 bits of advice are (a) don't buy a CYC motor, and (b) if you're really stuck on buying their motor, buying from a seller in your own country with a very clear warranty policy. I'm going to post this again in the upcoming CYC video, because people really need to understand how unreliable the CYC Photons are.

@@larrym2434 Just curious. Did you use throttle? How much power did you use for assist? 250W or way more?

@@ataksnajpera 95% of the time I used pedal assist, not throttle. And generally I would use power between 250-750 watts. In race mode, you can access a little more than 1,000 watts power, I believe.

I passed on quite a bit of feedback including this. They seem pretty responsive to input although I was not given any kind of timescale.

I’ll try and slot in a general update. The stock ts has been improving of late on the DM01 / 02 but we have not been able to get it to work with the ASI yet.

30 is the max and it's firmware locked to this.

I'm not going to use the Flipsky they tend to break. Plus I have access to all the ASI stuff already. There is a reason why they are $100. There is a guy on discord running 60 volts on the DM01

@@HighVoltageKits maybe they break... i can't find... i saw a 60v video from another guy.. This beats sure bbshd 1.5kw at 60V..... 60v vs CYC photon - both 2kw...... this i want to see one day!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah this will wipe the floor with the Photon as it's bigger and can handle the heat for much longer

@@HighVoltageKits Omg!!!

We would need to have one made. It's not the same as the bbshd one. Pretty close but not close enough.

Never ran with a 48 volt on an ASI as the BMS on those are generally not enough. You are looking at 9000 ish unloaded max rpm at 40% field weakening.

I have not ridden a TSDZ2B so I cannot speak personally. I never wanted to because of all the issues with heat. There are people on our discord who have run both though and have posted about their experiences. From what I gather it is a superior motor in terms of being able to manage heat as the motor core is pressed into the casing allowing for direct heat transfer. There are a few other differences as well which I look at in this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0N_X0pQhWjk.html

I'm tempted to try an igh. There will be an option hopefully soon but can't talk about it right now. You can email greg@highvoltagekits.com for kit information or contact Mr High Voltage on discord with a pm. I'm listed as Captain Codswallop. We ship Aus for sure.

@@HighVoltageKits i've tried sturmey archer and others but went back to the shimano inter3, the others broke within 800km, shimano now has an ebike designed 5speed now too i'd love to try but i'm sure you'll be happy once you try IGH .... thanks i'll email you soon

Yeah. I will try and get it on ASAP. Design of the part today!

@@HighVoltageKits 🤣👍🏻