TOTAL WAR'S FUTURE: 3 Fresh Settings That Would Innovate The Series 

Honestly I think out of the three, the Age of Exploration Total War could be seriously special. Combining a few different continents together with resources, trade, discovery, unique cultures all engaging each other as a centrepiece + a new engine that maximises fun around Medieval warfare going into Pike & Shot with naval warfare.. it just yeah.. I think it would be brilliant. What do you think lads & ladies? What would you want to see? Any good Total War ideas a little bit more out of the box? Let me know in the comments below and subscribe to the channel for more Total War content, news, campaign livestreams and videos just like this!

just give us global empire 2 with real cannon ball physics, marching bands and 1700-1890

I want a pike and shotte setting starting 1500 and ends after the English restoration. Throw in a global map like Empire and you can make a banger of a game

Total war without slaves is not realistic.

Empire 2 would be perfect. We finally have the technology available to do what they envisioned with the first one.

You put out enough hopium to kill a war elephant

just fucking do the empire 2, damn it.

*Top 3 settings Total War will never cover because CA is too lazy and/or incompetent.

I personally would love a total war game on the scale of victoria 2, stretching from japan to the americas. of course with naval combat but this game would need better diplomacy and better strategic mechanics as well as ai. There was an old game called Genghis khan that allowed myself to play as england while my friend played as japan. this was an amazing experience and really brought me into these games. sadly I don't see this replicated decades later.

No point in a new setting if they cant fix the AI and the depth of the game. I think Pharao, Troy and Three Kingdoms showed that.

“Total war: Age of Discovery” sounds like a great total war: medieval 3 🙏

I really want an Empire 2. I'm even happy with a remastered Empire and mod support for it.

CA Total War has to decide whether they will go back to their historical genre and in a serious way.

I like to add that there are lots of mods where you can kind of play the diadochi wars. My own Alexander Total Overhaul mod for Rome Remastered is one of them. You can play the diadochi as emerging faction, or play against them if you play macedon and Alexander dies afther you conquer Persia. On the larger map (mod has 3 maps), a lot of India is also included in it. If anyone from the Rome modding discord is here in the comments: yeah i pretty much went silent and am currently not in active development with any mods. But that is quite normal for me. I unfortunately kind of get bored or Total War once in a while and then it takes months until I in turn get bored of som Paradox games until i return to Total War. Also i have a fulltime job so if i do develop, progress is unfortunately slow.

I mean slavery should be a factor in a historical title especially wrt the economy but I get the idea of not emphasising it I guess. Slavery is in R2 nobody really takes offence at that now do they?

I love the second idea with America but as you brought up, in a global way. Where you can move your ships through the ocean until America and stablish settlements and discover new world but also with news and better battle mechanics. I don’t know if I’m the only one but I feel that the engine is not working longer, it feels old and has the same issues since 15 years ago. CA needs a new engine urgently

There are Islamic conquests against the Roman Empire and the Sassanian Empire. Also, Total War Empire needs a remaster or a new part.

Total war set in Westeros/ essos is my dream setting if it comes to history setting it would be around 1400-1600

A Victoria Total War would be great, but would require extreme complexity of mechanics and faction variety to work.

An Italian Renaissance or European Reformation era. The Renaissance would allow for winning via culture or war The Reformation would allow for player to create new religions or support the church

i just realised that in TW replenishment is global and flat, so why is it not limited by distance? Alexander couldn't support his army in India and stopped conquering. The players should be limited by a replenishment range from the provinces that can recruit his units... at home replenishment should 200%, alexander in india or hannibal in italy would have 0. Needing to rely on mercenaries.

Wait why avoid slave trade ? I remember in MTW2 slaves were some of the most sought after tradeable goods.

For better or worse, the next historical Total War will be set in the year 40,000 AD

Top three settings for me would be total war mongols(medieval setting) Total war empire 2 or tw victoria Total war discovery(featuring spanish conquests of aztecs nd incas) Total war

my top 3 total war suggestions 1:ww1, while yes mods have done this they feel unbalanced and an official CA game in the future of ww1 will have workshop support that can fix any issues future CA has 2: genghis khans uprise: This one has in a small way been added to total war attila with the 1212AD mod but i would like an official total war game that covers most of EuroAsia and lets us bring the mongol empire to greatness 3:Star wars: Total war with its big and large battles could be really cool (in my opinion) with star wars as empire at war while yes is really good is really really old and has several issues with me

did an essay on how ATLA would make a fantastic backdrop for a total war game

We the fans cannot wait for M3TW (just day dreaming...)

Empire 2 with some dlc campaigns for example XVII century Europe where we could play as Ottoman, Austria, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Tsardom of Russia, Sweden, Holy Roman Empire etc. or a French Revolution dlc. Or maybe some new settings like Pike and Shot, Dark Ages, XIX century Americas

Nice video I agree with you I would love a Total War Age of Discovery/ Pike and Shot

tbh no one will care about India in that period thus that game will fail like Pharaoh.

Heres the games i want from CA that i know they most likely wont make. Empire total war 2 or remastered: Era based between 1700 all the way up to the napoleonic war. Fresh new textures and game modes. Especially naval landings and naval port and land battles. Imagine besieging york town as ships fire on the town and forts while small row boats full of british soldiers nake their way to the shores and docks. Ragnarok total war: Basically a total war based around Norse mythology imagine fighting Jötnar or Fire giants in asgard or fighting draugr in Helheim. Or commanding draugr, trolls, Jötnar and fire giants with Loki or Hela as your generals on midgard or asgard. Or be having thor or Tyr as a general leading a army of Einherjar to Jotunheim. And ofcourse having naval battles and sieges. Imagine having a naval battle with longships as Jormungandr is in the back ground frame. Some other honorable mentions they can do collabs with movie and other gaminf companies. A proper Lord of the rings total war with the help of modders. Elder scrolls total war. Witcher total war. And a warcraft total war if they got with blizzard. Even a god of war total war based around kratos war with the greek gods. Alot of potential but knowing CA it will be another lifeless total war. Edit: Alot of mods are already out covering these settings for other total war titles but the modders have to work with what they got or have to make their own tools to make a mod work for the game and run into problems and yet still come out as top notch content. CA should really hire modders and put them in teams to work on these total war games. One group of modders focuses on a lord of the rings total war while the other do a elder scrolls total war. Tbh they have mostly what they need from the warhammer total games. Using those skeletons and animations but it feels like some people will crap on it and call it lazy instead of making new assets.

Even the "16 Mahajanpad era" (prior to mauryan) would be fascinating to see in total war

Total War: Medieval Asia. Map stretching from Constantinople to Kyoto; from Siberia to Indonesia. So many different civilizations, and unit variety, and new player markets to expand to. It would be the historical equivalent to Warhammer 3 map.

I wonder if there is some kind of point about slavery you could make in an Age of Exploration: Total War. Obviously its a bit a-historical given the specific motivations of early explorers like Cortez but surely there is something interesting to be gained in having the player start out with the intention of exploring and then slowly being tempted by game mechanics to engage with the slave trade. They experience, on the small scale, the same lure of higher profits that fueled new world slavery however, because its a modern player, you keep hitting them with real stories of people's suffering and offer them a quest chain towards abolition at every opportunity. I also think that representing slavery is import because it defines many of the relationships between peoples of this period both within their own spheres and globally.

Dont know where you came up with the 15-30 million population but the figures at its peak in 250 BCE were nearly 50-60 million. Note the fact that India had a higher share of population % then than it has today due to large parts of Europe and North America, ex. Germany, not being as popuated as they are now. Also the Mauryan Empire included the whole sub continent, Afghanistan, and parts of Iran. So yeah it had quite a large population. Did a part project on them in COVID and their Architecture so know quite a lot about them

I would love to be able to play the Greek under dogs vs Persia and have battle of Thermopalye

Pike and Shot, 30 Years War, English civil war, the rise of the Sun King Louis xiv, Spanish tercios, soooo much cool stuff to make a game out of - 16oo to 1700 please.

Pike and Shot is probably the most obvious setting people would want for a "new" setting, combining that Late Medieval/Early Gunpowder warfare. India Total War would be pretty cool, its certainly a UNTAPPED setting for Total War. 15th Century to 17 Century would be pretty cool as well, witnessing Columbus discover America, the Colonization of Africa. That being said, allow me to throw this wildcard down. The "Orient" Total war, essentially a Middle East Total War in a gunpowder setting. As for a more "Fantasy" Total War setting though, Steam Punk would be pretty cool. Clockwork Soldiers, Airships, Steam powered Vehicles, that classic Gunpowder weaponry. Its certainly a Setting I can see people being receptive to, as opposed to some of the more Sci Fi rumors we have been hearing lately.

Total war Mongols

Unrealistic expectations, but I still think we need a Total War: Genghis with a map going as far west as the borders of the HRE, Italy (specifically cause of the Pope) and Constantinople, as far south as the Middle East, India and Egypt, as far east as Japan and Indonesia, and as far north as the wastes of Siberia. If CA ever pulls itself together (which I have my doubts about) this would be the perfect game to prove it. As it’s basically a crossover between some of TW’s largest games (Rome, Medieval II, Shogun 2) whilst adding things we have wanted. You’d have knights, romans (sorta), Mamlukes, Indian kingdoms such as the Ghurid and Delhi Sultanates and perhaps the Chola Empire, you’d have the warriors of Indonesia, the Jin Dynasty in China, the Samurai of the Kamakura Shogunate, and off course the Demonic hordes of the steppe who are to be united under one great Khan. I obviously don’t think CA in its current state can pull off something like this, I honestly think the modding community will make something of this magnitude before them 😂. But if they do, they (in my eyes) will have officially redeemed themselves. Even if the game is buggy and scuffed, I will again be confident that the modding community could fix whatever CA could not.

I don't mind if CA will stay with Attila graphics, but will make Empire 2 total war, WITH naval battles and WITH naval bombardment. Not a remaster, not a remake, I'm talking about Shogun 2 success, a game that people will love and will buy to play with friends.

For Age of Exploration it would be great for it to start in the 1400’s. You would start in the medieval era and see all these events unfold especially with the hundreds year war with the English and French still going on, the reconquista of Spain, maybe it could cover some parts of the Holy Roman Empire and give mechanics to how it was run similar to 1212ad Mod, the fall of Constantinople and leading up to the spark of the renaissance, the Italian wars. Then you can have the lead up to the age of exploration and it would be interesting to include different parts of the world like India, the americas, the Caribbean, Japan. It would be interesting to also play as like the Japanese or the native tribes of these places and I mean there’s room for playability being the Aztecs or the Japanese and deal with the mechanics of diplomacy with the factions discovering you. A lot of work should honestly be put into the age of discovery if CA decides to pick up on this. Theres so much I could bring up but the message gets through I hope .

All of these ideas sounds really good , I’d buy all three and as a Babylon fan, in rise of Persia you could play as the neo Babylonian empire and defend your empire of Mesopotamia and the levant against the Persians while having hostile relations with Egypt

I would like to see a game based on the rise of the Mongol Empire. Starting with Temujin as a struggling youth leading a small band of loyal warriors. The player would have to defeat rival tribes in order to advance to the leadership of the Mongol Horde. The you could enter into a worldwide campaign battling Chinese Kingdoms and Empires, Khwarezam, Kiev, Volga Bulgars, Georgians, Armenians, and of course the Caliphate. India, Tibet, and other Asian kingdoms could also be included. One of the first PC games that I ever played was Genghis Khan by Koei. Very primitive by today's standard, but I spent many enjoyable hours trying to unite the Mongol tribes under my standard. The sky really is the limit when it comes to historical subject matter.

The age of discovery would maybe be when Sweden was a mayor power (if it’s in the 1600th century)

Your last one is my number 1 overall. "Rise of Empires: Total War"

I wouldn't mind a Total War Game, possibly a Total War Saga game, based on the Taiping Rebellion. Also, maybe the Imjin War.

For me the biggest missed opportunity the series ever had was not making a Game of Thrones: Total War during the insane hype for the last couple of seasons of the HBO show. It would be interesting for fans of both historical and fantasy settings. ALSO: The issue with Total War games is that their formula/mechanics work best with eras/settings that have grand and organized armies.

Could do with a total war spanning the period between the end of napoleon through to the end of the victorian age. You have the wars like the franco-prussian and crimea, the conquest of africa, the ton's and ton's of technological advancement, like the stream trains and ironclads. You can include india into all that too with the british rule. For DLC you could include the Opium Wars as a mini campaign, and of course, the biggest one being the US civil war. We had a taste with Fall of the Samurai but let's be honest, it really isn't the same.

About India, if you go ancient India that include the Selucid as part of diadochi war then you should add Egypt, if you add Egypt then you should include also Greece then there must war between Epiros vs Rome and Cartage. The central point on this period is always in the West. You can have India as dlc but its no more than add on in global scale. Its like Egypt in Bronze age. Ok we focus on it during that period but then people ask why isnt there a Mezopotamia and Greece and so on.

An Age of Discovery/ Rennaissance game would be awesome.

Check out "By Fire & Sword" tabletop wargame by Wargamer Poland. That is the sort of era that would make a brilliant TW game.

You can play as Mauryan's (India) in Rome 2 with Divide et Impera mod. War Elephants, amazing bowman and shock troops make for a fun campaign.

About the Rise of Persia, if you go through the history in period you meantion you have 2 high points: from start to persian wars with battle of Salamine or Marathon as end point and Peloponesian wars to Alexander conquest of Persia. Each starts with big diversity in the region, many factions quite weak fighting for supremacy, gather the strengh, minor wars which at the end leads to final showmatch between two powers. I cannot image how you could go from the coalition of Greek states after Xerxes, to the split of it into small city state squabbles and again ending with Alexander. I think as much as you cannot tell the story of rise and fall of Rome in one game the same applies to Persia. You have to pick one. We already had (very, very poorly made) Peloponesian war and as atractive as it is from strategy point of view, the battles, faction designs and unit roaster was very poor because they all were very similar - i think rework of this era would be hard.

4:24 why, it would be great to see

3:48 imagine this in the style of Warhammer TW so three seperate games which you can merge into one China and India have huge player bases and the Diadochi would be perfect for getting the old historical players back in also anything Alexander related will get noticed by a lot. Start with India, if it makes enough money go from there.

While the medieval period is my favourite, for something more unique a WW1 game would be the most interesting. Would be cool if it carried on in to WW2 as well.

Man a pike and shot total war game would be so cool! Also I wanted to ask what movies did you use during the age of discovery part of the video?

A rise of Persia Total War would be amazing. But it would have to include a big map of Asia, India and Europe. No one wants another Saga title or another Pharaoh like cash grab. It would have to include several starting dates. The rise of Persia with Cyrus the Great, The Greco-Persian Wars and Alexander the Great Conquests. At least those 3. But i doubt CA would make this.

I think you should do one that is about the 1st modern wars: the American Civil War or the Wars of German Unification, Franco Prussian War

HEY TERMI,is a mod out there who tried to do the East justice,and is called Broken Cresent set in to the Medieval Period but a Modern Total War with the new setings will be cool indeed,i liked the idea of multi cultures colide each other,with diferent religions going on...and will be so immersive,what you think about that?

Should do a Victoria Total war covering the world post 1815-1914

Finally someone who wants a Persia Total War That would be great!!

I’d like an Empire 2 with more focus on the great northern war. In empire the regions were too big, Swedens unit tree was boring and didn’t include Charles the twelfth as a general or the caroleans 😢. It will never happened but I still want it to.

We need empire 2 or medieval 3

the real future for total war is an official NTW3 game. seriously the only reason why im still playing this one total war title is because of ntw3 mod. probably the best total war multiplayer experience. Downside is the game is very old, match making and hosting multiplayer lobbies are very outdated, and quite unstable. So imagine a newer and more stable NTW3 from a new game engine.

Why avoid the slave trade? It’s a part of history. There were other slave trades beyond the transatlantic slave trade. The Arab African slave trade was in full flow before and after that. Rome II had a slavery mechanic (a pretty bare bones one in the form of edicts and mods). Im fairly certain though it’s the reason that we haven’t seen an Empire sequel (which is ludicrous)

i do like the idea of china total war set during the warring states period, maybe just maybe one day CA will do make the game again maybe

They should do Total war warhammer 40k biggest innovation hands down

Persia Total War with Xenophon, then Alexander, then the Diadochi for the Western side, but especially Xenophon, just make it happen.

Hey, love the ideas. I don’t think though that slavery should be ignored in the discovery era. For one it would be historical revisionism to exclude slavery since the global success of Europe pretty much based (and still bases) on slavery and the exploitation of other countries. It also would make an ecellent game mechanic. Hence you could possibly play without slavery it would make the game a lot more harder though, giving it a nice reality touch and replayability. Also it could give different incentives to early, mid and late game.

Personally i think its time for a new engine. Make a game with very small focus which focuses on making the new engine work well. The setting needs various different units, weapons and formations, as well as working out realism aspects. Like if a soldier is surrounded by 3 enemies, they should not patiently wait for their turn, but the surrounded guy would be attacked by 3 soldiers at the same time. Like in original Rome Total War, but with more advanced animations. It also needs to work out mixed formations like tercios, or multi-unit formations. Firearms in line formations are propably easiest to implement, but it also needs to make sure it works with those. So i guess game that starts in early era and receives different eras in expansions like in Shogun 2 would be best. Now i know that engines themselves don't make bad games, engines are just building blocks so you don't have to code every single thing from scratch. But Total War engine, modified as it is compared to one that was launched with Empire TW, is still old and some developers have said its holding them back a little. You should not be changing engine every year, but its been 15 years, i think its time for a new, improved engine. Even if its just heavily improved based on current one.

Tbh if they build a new engine, that isn't clunky and has competent AI, i will be fine with almost any scenario they whip up.

Very surprising on India. I will give my thoughts soon

CA Doesn't know how to not FAIL enough to make any of these games.

1. Neat saga idea but adding china is too much of a stretch because that’s a different warring states period than the 3 kingdoms era, maybe as a dlc add on 2. Would be a nice return to naval warfare, 3. Sounds like a Rome 2 dlc or another saga title

I’d love to see a new empire total war or a Victoria era game

Rise of Persia could be a good Pharoh Dlc I also think Gengis Khan total war would be great

If they did the Maurya, they would need to add the Yuezhi-Sakai (who became the Kush) and Wusun, so even if they didn't do China itself at all (late Warring States period) we would get a little taste of if. Aside from Seleucus I, Antiochus I the Diadokhoi didn't ever actually directly face the Indians, as the Yuezhi-Sakai and Wusun, then Kush were in between them, but the Greco-Bactrians, Greco-Indians and the the Greek Ferghana breakaway that the Chinese called Daxia. The period in Chinese history would be...it is incredible dense. Like, I study the Diadokhoi some, and that stuff is hard (also the lack of sources), but China from ~320-220 is just a million different coups and upstarts and fractions and Wu trying to rebel and the Yan and Zhao dealing with the first Xiong'nu, and the Wei, Han, Zhang, Qin embroiled in crazy wars. I would LOVE to see it, but to do it justice would take a lot more work than CA seems competent to do as is. I would love to be wrong. You would also be facing the rise of the Parthians at the same time (if it wasn't focused solely on like the 320-270's) and the Galatoi, which would make the western part of the map FASCINATING to play (if also really frustrating because everyone hates horse archers!). God what I wouldn't give for a Chinese TW set in the Warring States, or maybe the end of the Spring and Autumn period through the early Warring States. ~500-350BCE or so. I would also love love LOVE to see the rise and fall of the Sui, rise of the Tang, and the Korean Wars between China, the Korean Three Kingdoms (though there were 4 at first) and the Yamoto Japanese.

I would like Age of Exploration(1453/1492 onward), I WILL LOVE IT! But CA NEVER WILL DO THAT because in that time Spain is the Superpower, is the Rome of their time. CA are Anglos so will never do a game that praise their hated enemies(Spanish) sadly... I hope one day CA leave their chouvinism and do that period for a Historical(not saga) game.

I would be most excited ot see an age of discovery total war as I do quite like the native americans especially in total war (too bad we only got medieval 2 americas which is kinda iffy and also we don't talk about empire it sucks for native americans) the contrast of muskets and metal vs spears and clubs it such an interesting one and I think both factions could be a blast to play since shooting down the hordes of enemies with muskets would be satisfying and finding the right mix of cavalry infantry and artillery to go along with it aswell as pikemen we could get some pike and shot woohoo and having to use strategy to not get mowed down by muskets with archers and infantry, and eventually unlocking muskets and cavalry we could also get back good research and other mechanics in empire getting new weapons and technological advancement for said weapons aswell as tactics, new buildings, and some buffs too for research would be a dream come true villages in provinces are good and also like empire to reinforce the fact that they are colonizing for wealth and trade opportunities also please make it like the medieval 2 engine i'm begging you i want so much from total war but i just cant get it cuz my brain don't wanna play total war anymore even though i do and also CA doesn't seem to be the best at making good games rn

What is the name of the movie used in the video 3:59 ? :-) Great id, like this Periode of Discover!!

What movie or tv show scenes were used for the exploration of America section?

Man you do realize empire total took place during the transatlantic slave trade and so did napoleon. You shouldn't play historically theme video games if that upsets you enough.

I dont want another TW thats fixated on one region. I want to see more grand scale like Rome like Empire. Focusing in on small areas takes away from one things that makes TW great

Why doesn't CA hire you on their team⁷ You have come up with many insightful and interesting ideas in your past videos and CA could seriously use some help in getting back on track and pumping out some great historical titles.

I am against your idea ,no new setting are required . Empire rework would be the safest option

You shouldn't be playing historical games if certain parts of history bother you. Even though empire and napoleon took place during that period of particular trade.

It wish there was a total centered around the americas, what i mean is there ntw 3 with america, within the mod though i wish there was mexico the only time we see mexico really in etw i think it would be fun to play a campaign of the mexican American war or when france invaded mexico or even when spain came to mexico to conquer it.

The time period between the Civil War and WWI...

A game set in the early 15th century around the colonisation of the Americas that doesn't touch slavery... Who's gonna tell him? xD

TW has to be historically accurate. So it has to include slavery too. If one wants to avoid bad things in war/history games let's make one called "Total Peace".

Medieval 3 [Late Middle Ages]… with Age of Exploration DLC

It seems to me that CA and Ubisoft are twins who were separated in childhood Nothing will change in TW, everything will be the same milking due to useless DLC for the Warhammer series In order for really new high-quality games to appear, it is necessary to completely reconsider the concept of development and first of all get rid of the rudiments - developers

good video, though i dont think there should be an aversion to the TAST. its a part of history and these games portray history. id love to see a saga game set during the english civil war though. that would be an absolutely phenomenal setting for a total war game. it would have to be a saga game too, as it would only be set in the british isles and i cant justify it being a full title. really though, the next historical total war game should be medieval 3. we are long, long overdue. its been almost 20 years since medieval 2. medieval 3 or bust. just do it CA.

The Incas vs the Aztecs.

I would sell a family member for an Age of Discovery: TW :)...and Age of Persia TW, for that matter.

Age of discovery/pike & shot yessss please!!!!

3:00 Total War: Baratayudha

To 330 it's too much. 400-420 more realistic. BUT. We can get Alexander DLC.