"There's no innocent, only degrees of guilt." "Those who have proven to be innocents are guilty of wasting my time." - Some old guy on walking throne from a grimdark future.
While it's still not exactly canon Eiki, I still think it's better than how most of the fanbase (or alternatively, IOSYS) portrays her. Also, 'Eiki' and 'Shiki' are separate names.
Sir Yeetus XIV how does most of the fan base portray her? I’ve always seen her as this kind of judgmental scary person. But probably because I love that kind of character
Ok listen Shiki Eiki is a Yama. That's all. Or a Enma if you prefer(for example king enma from DBZ who judges people if they are going to hell or heaven)
@@SaturnSenshi3105 Canon Eiki is one of the characters I have the most respect for in the series, seeing as she's very just and fair, having a mature and responsible personality, no more no less than what's expected of the Yama. All of those powerful characters such as Yukari, Reimu, Kanako, Remilia... they will all meet Eiki in the end, and will be judged accordingly on whether or not they will go to heaven or hell. Eiki will actually explain in details to those who she judges on what their mistakes and sins were and how to lead a better life, giving them advice on how to not end up in hell. She's one of the few characters who, regardless of what perspective you see her from, there's nothing to dislike her for. The role she takes, how she acts... Definitely one of my favorite characters in the cast. And in contrast to the "version" I'm about to describe next, she's pretty tall, significantly taller than Reimu, per se. ...As for the fanon version, Eiki is an angry loli who keeps yelling "LAW! CONVICT! YOU HAVE BIGGER BOOBS THAN ME, YOU GO TO HELL! LECTURE LECTURE LECTURE" *angry loli noises I feel like that portrait of her she's known by completely disrespects and shows no regard for her character. I understand that, for comical effect, the fanon versions of characters over exaggerate their main traits, but in Eiki's case, it just ruins her reputation, since her fanon is how she's mostly known to be and has nothing to do with her actual self.
Shikieiki's quite cute but also isn't someone to mess with or else she'll lecture you all day long about your faults and how you're living your life wrong. While her lecturing is annoying, she does it to help you as she doesn't want people to go to Hell. She doesn't nag at people for fun after all.
Let's find an intermediate point, she is not tall, but neither is she loli, perhaps seeing several fanart and canon art. Shikieiki's stature is around 150 or 165. It is not too tall, nor too short. Also, remember that the stature of the Japanese is quite short ... for them 170 is already very high.
In one of PoFV's endings, you can see her standing next to Komachi and you can see that Shiki Eiki is a bit taller than her. That's the best canon size approximation we have.
@@okguy167 yea, just she's not quite that short. she's supposed to be like, what, half a head shorter than komachi? komachi im p sure was described as intimidatingly tall, shiki eiki can't be shorter than 5'6", almost certainly taller (she isn't tall, but she can certainly be imposing). she's prone to long lectures, sure, but she isn't quite as harsh as shown here, just says "if you died right now, your trial would suck. here's stuff to do so you can make it suck less". she doesn't use her mirror to nitpick your entire life, at the very least if you're still alive. y'know, reasonable. it's kinda sad this is better than many other fan works in how she's portrayed.
@@winsonzhu4427 Actually, Shikieiki is honnestly kinda tall. Like, in Reimu's PoFV ending you can see both Komachi and Shikieiki standing next to each other, and Shikieiki is slightly taller than Komachi. So yeah, she is actually pretty tall, especially if Komachi is described as "intimidatingly tall"
I mean, she really isn't tall, she is taller than most characters, but taking in account that Marisa is 130cm Shiki probably doesn't pass of 170cm (atleast comparing her ending picture), she probably is around 160cm
I find it so sad how the fans ruined her character... The real Eiki never behave like that... She is a calm, wise and nice character who want to help others with her advices. She never push her advices on others nor talking for hours... She is also the same tall as Komachi Speaking of Komachi, she takes her job seriously actually. So i have no idea where the lazyness came from...
Zun only provides the barest of bones as far as characterizing Touhou characters goes, as a franchise it's one of the most fluid and fan-defined out there because so many people end up enamoured with the exaggerated takes people come up with in leiu of the canon versions which barely exist. It might not be accurate but it's why this series is so popular.
@@VRHyoumaru what about Suwako? I don't even know what is her real personality..(canon) I rarely see her in manga and in the game, she is no longer a play character to able see more from her sadly..
@@VRHyoumaruThat might've been true for some characters before, but characters like Tenshi were introduced with quite a bit of dialogue and lore already with them, yet they still ended up getting mangled.
It is unfortunate that fan perception of touhou overshadows the canon. But at the same time I can’t condemn it, because doing so takes away some of the escapism. Regardless fan projects are like boiled eggs, best taken with salt.
@@esztervarga5431 If you read print material, stuff like Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red(the title is something like that) has characters getting interviewed by Aya, Suwako might be one of them. Or she might show up in other print material.
MEMPhAcEE .___. I doubt it. As a judge she would have high standards, but as long as you're a gentlemanly Christian I expect she would be quite receptive to your advances.
According to gensokyo lore she is stronger than yukari and the oni sisters and the other strongest yokai including some of the gods like the watasuki sisters.You beat avoid her
@@WhatTheDogDoin0493 Honestly can't help but think Junko isn't nearly as strong as many make her out to be. Don't get me wrong though: she's definitely PLENTY up there on the power hierarchy and you have to be some sorta of DEM to try and invade a entire highly militarized Capital by yourself alone without dying, but none of her attempts ever paid off until Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom and that only worked because of a very specific set of circumstances. Hecatia, under the request of Junko, gave her an entire army of fairies to purify into the weakness of Lunarians and agreed to play alongside her revenge plan, effectively trapping all the Lunarians into the Dreamworld. Without these 2 crucial elements (fairies and Hecatia) I can't see Junko successfully invading the Capital at all, which coincides with canon. Yorihime and Toyohime should theoretically be above Junko, considering these two are the mainlines of defense of the Lunar Capital and much probably the ones that foiled her plans on the past (can't see Junko ever losing to any moon rabbits not named Reisen, sorry). Eirin, too, since she much probably scales higher than the sisters. (She's their teacher, they admire her even though she's a traitor, p sure they said she could win against both of them at once, and she's massively suppressing her own power 24/7 not to embarrass Kaguya) so, yeah. Eirin is kind of underrated on these sorta discussions, when you think of it, there's plenty of material suggesting her being roughly the equal to, or easily above, the Watatsukis. And those 2 are monsters YUKARI (a 9 out of 10) is afraid of taking on.
From what I remembered, she’s actually not short at all. 😓 And if she’s really that short, there’s no way anyone would take her seriously if they only saw her and not knowing she’s an enma. 😒
Shikieki's power is actually unknown. She could potentially be as powerful as Yukari... maybe Junko? OR EVEN PERHAPS HECATIA HERSELF! .. Wait, she's like an angel at the gates of Heaven. She judges people. ... she ain't that powerful, is she?
she can beat everyone except for Junko and Hecatia Many people been saying that they have proof of Junko being second strongest and Eiki being the third strongest in Touhou
@@shikieikiyamaxanadu-qh8yy I don't follow much, but according to my sources, that being what I generally have learned about her so far is that she is powerful, but isn't really meant to be fighting people. She act as a powerful guide and judge that can sentence you to hell or heaven, but, who created Hell? Hecatia. In a nutshell, we'll never know how powerful she is because she's not meant to be fighting in danmaku battles. She's meant to be above violence.
There's a canon story from Zun where Yuyuko and Yukari are just walking around somewhere and they sense Eiki nearby. Yukari's response is "we should be somewhere else".
I wonder if it would be possible to get out of a lecture if you told her you weren't a Shintoist/Buddhist, and thus are not bound under her authority...
It would. She judges ALL souls within Gensokyo. The only people truly immune to her judgement are Kaguya and Mokou, as they are hourai immortals, and are therefore no longer constrained by life and death.
Scarlet sisters are not "believers" as far as I know since implications showed that they came from Europe. But I am sure Eiki still has control over them once they died. After all, it is not about "your" belief.
,,Donald Duck Voice" I feel like I could listen to her all night , because I'd either sleep with eyes open or I'd just stay awake the entire time , I don't take lectures seriously , so I wouldn't get bored , even if she talked the entire night about what I did and about what I must change , I would just stay on my regular schedule , which is wake up , eat , play games , eat , help family , play games , swear for 18 hours straight , try to sleep for a good hour or so , actually sleep , wake up , continue with regular shit , also , if anyone thinks she is actually funny with that voice , then , idk , good for you.
isn't eiki very nice in canon though i mean she did scold younmu but usually she's very nice and just wants everyone to be good she had a positive effect on reimu marisa and other characters in the normal endings
Maybe it's just because I'm so used to her voice in Danzai Yamaxanadu but I can't help but think this voice doesn't fit her. She's supposed to sound angry, tired, and meanacing but here she just sounds like an upset child which...fits her appearance somewhat I suppose but not her personality.
Eiki Shiki is that type of person that when sees even the smallest of imperfections she will be willing to give the person an entire long ass essay type paragraph of why is he wrong and why this and that is not correct and many of that stuff XD
Yeah, she seems to think that even the slightest flaw in someone's personality will send them to Hell. She acts like Hell is the default setting when someone is born or created.
