TOUR WINNER RYAN FOX GOLF SWING the IMPORTANCE OF MATCH UPS 

Glad you liked it. He has a cool action.

I’m thinking one direction more to this equation, which is the rotation. Body rotation and arms, trail shoulder internal rotation. If you would have the extreme strong grip, there is no need for crossing over the arms in the down swing, but to hold the face angle open instead of closing it by arm rotation. If a high capper or just a beginner grabbed a club like that, he didn’t have to turn at all thru, but to throw the fists at the ball being closed by his shoulders.

Westwood is just fat! John Rahm is the archetype when it comes to big builds.

You're going to want to watch Mike Adams before you do this. Really going to make the match-ups make more sense after you watch him.

I’ve been playing with a stronger left hand grip, mines was to introduce a draw into my game, but when the path defaults to out to in, it’s a double cross, left going left…. The idea of having the shaft and hands so far forward is interesting….

Mark Bull I think…

@@lyntonh2822 Thanks, I scrolled down through this with the same question.

Former tennis player here. You nailed it. I played with a lighter racket. I top-spinned the crap out of my forehand, and second serve. My body was very open, on my ground strokes, with a more strong, racket down type grip. However, I used to play this old guy that hit a very flat ball. He had a heavier racket. He basically hit straight through the ball on his serve, and forehand. You had to control the points early, or that deep, flat ball would get the best of you. lol

@@jamiesloan7259 Every once in a blue moon you might play against someone like this - it was VERY RARE - it was the Jimmy Connors flat stroke that came at you almost unrealistically fast given what looked like a punch-type swing. McEnroe was able to do this on his return of serve when he wanted to take the ball quickly on the rise and follow it into the net. This was my era and I played at nearly that level - part of how they were doing this was they strung their rackets at very low poundage and while it was terrible to use to create big top-spinning shots - it worked remarkably well at punch-type flat shots - they used mid 40s pound string rates. It was really an all-or-nothing style because that type of setup required that type of shot to keep the opponent from attacking

@@wallstreetoneil Yep. Very rare. He was the only person that I ever played, with that type of technique. And you’re right…. That low knuckle ball seemed to get to you very fast. I would almost always win the 30 person local tournament if I got past him. I even beat the #1, and #2 seeds from WVU. But, he was a different animal. lol

Pretty sure it’s Mark Bull he’s referring to, the biomechanics guy.

@@helenabonhamcarter3224 thank you that’s spot on

I think it is Mark Bull. Bull3d seems to be the RU-vid channel.

@@austinblack6702 thank you sir

It's Mark Bull. Bull3D golf

@@stevecernuto740 Thanks, much appreciated. Must be the accent loll (I'm a kiwi)

@@nakilad37 I'm and American and I couldn't understand him either lol. I found it in another video he did with Mark Bull.

great post - I've done all the same experimenting. Being a former tournament-level tennis player and an ice hockey play, I've converted 1/2 way to this Ryan Fox-type style - which is also a Trevino-type style. It can be done with a weaker left grip (Trevino) if you are able to really bow your left wrist. For me the big thing was to use Midsized +4 grip, convert to a baseball/tennis grip, and the feeling is much more tennis-like with the right hand delivering the speed and face angle control into the ball as the hips open as they do in tennis and while taking a slap shot in hockey. In hockey, we hold a weak top hand so the bowing was easy for me, but I have converted to a slightly stronger right hand to give it more of that tennis feeling - and the 10-finger + bigger grip is what really makes it work for the right hand

@@wallstreetoneil That’s interesting. Being athletic, and playing other sports is very helpful. I play golf with a weak/neutral grip. My stock shot is a fade. I hit it by flattening, or slightly bowing the left wrist, and turning hard. The hard turn kicks the club out a bit, giving me the path I need. Then, I simply just hold the face off with some right side bend through impact. My tennis, and ping pong experience has definitely helped me with golf. I never played hockey, but I can definitely see the correlation.

@@jamiesloan7259 being that you were a tennis player, you can instantly be decent at golf if you just convert it to your tennis feels. Sounds like you have a perfect gameable setup - weaker bowing left grip to control the face and reduce face rotation & then just power into the ball with the right side in a slight hold-off sort of way - total gamer setup. As you were a tennis player, if you want to get a 'feel' of the modern young PGA tour swing, which is really just a top spin tennis forehand, and really a throw-back to Trevino's swing, then at your next range practice session, try a 10-finger grip to really make your tennis feels dominant, and then practice hitting tennis looping top sping forehand type shots, which is really the Matt Wolff golf swing, where you take the club back in a quite toe-down fashion, just as we do in tennis, like Morikawa, Hovland, Keopka & Wolff, and then keeping it toe-down/shut, hit a looping topspin tennis forehand delivery, all while thinking entirely about your right hand dominated tennis swing. I find it also helps to play the ball slightly more forward than maybe you usually do so you get that tennis feeling of moving into the ball. It is this mini-looping action, followed by firing the elbow as we do in tennis, with a strong face to offset the firing elbow (also like in tennis), that you see now all over the PGA tour in the young long hitter.

@@wallstreetoneil I’ve actually fiddled with the Wolfe motion before. I managed to hit some low draws, but I could tell that it would take some practice to make the strike, and direction “playable”. I could definitely produce some speed with it though. I have lower back problems now, so I can’t always swing the club the way I actually want to. On days when I feel stiff, and immobile I’ll actually stand tall to the ball, break my arms in a very relaxed backswing, and then just approach the ball with a narrow, steep swing. I just add left side extension to shallow it out through the hitting zone. This isn’t very powerful, but I can manage it around the golf course, with a predictable high, weak fade. I’m pretty creative when it comes to the golf swing. You sound like you are too. lol

@@jamiesloan7259 yup - if your right side bend isn't on that day, the Trevino style, big head drop, rotation for speed isn't happening - a nice, high hands, gravity-golf swing is better - many ways to skin a cat and still shoot par

Spot on I agree

Mark Bull. Bull3d

@@MarkCrossfield thanks👍🏻