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A spicy update for tourney has dropped. Some seem to hate it, others love it. I think it could be something good for the game. What do you think?
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@yashrastogi149 Месяц назад

I highly doubt that they will consider the feedback from the player base. To me it looks like another attempt at reducing the amount of acoins F2P players can get just like they silently stopped doing playoffs which were introduced in place of vault blitz. If they wanted to fill up squads with players then they simply had to increase the player base (which I understand is far from simple) as a lot of us have already experienced that if you play the tournament towards the end of the heat you get almost full squads, why, because more people play during that time. The only thing this change is going to achieve is giving higher sp players easy wins which would cause lower sp players to earn even less acoins, slowing down their progress forcing them to pay for resources and new meta stuff.

@scape211 Месяц назад

I understand this viewpoint, but the biggest things developers have to consider is revenue and retention. What your talking about only covers revenue. If they dont care about the new player experience, then retention will just trend down. Long standing players will not stay forever as the player base grows smaller. New players are important to cycle in groups of players as others age out. So I dont see this as a metric they can ignore. Both have an importance so I think feedback is still going to be important for this. But they will also watch the numbers/data for this to help them make decisions. Thats all internal though so I dont know how feedback gets compared to the data for decision making.

@yashrastogi149 Месяц назад

@@scape211 and the way to improve retention is to put new players(lower sp) against maxed out hangers? That's quite genius mate. But I do understand how reducing resources for F2Ps and limited spenders would increase retention as they would have to grind even more for resources.

@KingdomeBleachers Месяц назад

@@yashrastogi149 I'm pretty sure scape is saying what you are suggesting doesn't quite work as a strategy for revenue because it ignores retention. I don't see this as a revenue grab myself. It's just broken, imo.

@yashrastogi149 Месяц назад

@@KingdomeBleachers I know but what I'm saying is that you don't need experimental data to know it's a shit idea to match 1k sp player against 10k sp player just to fill up squads. And I'm only speculating here when I say this that the only thing this match making is gonna check is how many players would still play the tournament. Best case scenario, this match making is gonna give sp droppers a hard time.

@KingdomeBleachers Месяц назад

@@yashrastogi149 Agreed 👍

@Fensay Месяц назад

Bro this is unbearable. I played 14 matches with my max 2.5k hanger and didn't even win 5 matches 😢 now this is frustrating. I only playing this game cz of tournament but now this is b*lls**t

@c-yr6iv Месяц назад

agreed the sh*t i'm dealing with is triple my SP and MAXED OUT!!!

@feisty8 Месяц назад

its funny whenever Player-Base point out the glaring flaws of the game, PLARIUM'S response is always "OH, THAT'S TOTALLY INTENTIONAL". So i'm pretty sure for this wild 9000 to 11000 SP difference in match-making they'll once again repeat the same old excuse to hide their 1nc0mp1tency.

@scape211 Месяц назад

I get what you mean here and in some ways can agree. Its almost like a train wreck fascination to watch them try and try to figure out match making in this game....

@johnbrownell7715 Месяц назад

You think its really that hard? Have skill divisions with better prizes at the top. Problem solved. Have you or these people never played games before? This is basic shit. Ive played this game for 3 months, i shouldnt be getting matched up in a game with purple stars everywhere, and where i have no chance but to be spawn trapped. At least in COD, when you get spawn trapped its by skilled players. These losers are just sitting back with their maxed out ultra long range weapons, and people like me can't even get to cover before we get killed from 170m away. Its honestly pathetic. I knew this game was pay to win but you have to give newer players a shot or else its just a pyramid scheme. These people make Kabam look like decent people.

@LaddPhoto1 Месяц назад

The inconsistency in matchmaking makes no sense at all. I was playing in tourneys this morning. Before I joined, two of my friends who were playing by themselves running 12k and 15k hangers said they were one-shot killing everything. As soon as I joined running an 11k hanger, every bot was maxed and virtually unkillable. I still haven't seen any easy matches like that and they have way more SP and IP than I do. In addtion, the biggest thing everyone noticed this morning is tourney rounds not starting. We would wait for the round to start and it would kick everyone out to the hanger and refund tickets. Had this happen 4 times in 20 minutes. The internet connection error is still prevalent as well as other bugs. They just can't seem to make the game playable across the board. Every time they fix or add something, two other things break.

@MechManiaX1 Месяц назад

You're so close to 50k subscribers! You got this!

@yusufaransiola5433 Месяц назад

I've only done one tourney match since this update and I was immediately discouraged. I was at 10K, my entire team was people below 3K while our enemies were 8K and above with only one 5K. As you can imagine, we got rolled. I got a few kills, someone else on my team got 1 kill (the 5K enemy had one weak slingshot) everyone else got 0.

@titan_codes Месяц назад

Matching on SP alone is ridiculous as well. There needs to be a limit both directions that it will match you with. But it also needs to factor in how many mechs you have, each players w/l rate etc.

@lindsmith211 Месяц назад

I did my job in running away new players from this money hungry game yesterday. They will thank me later…..

@Rnuke247 Месяц назад

the game has so many micro transactions do they work with EA😂

@lindsmith211 Месяц назад

@@Rnuke247 don’t know bud

@hohuaze9893 Месяц назад

i think the match making should be based on the average power of 5 mechs

@dvanc604 Месяц назад

Son and I started a few weeks ago, as per the video this match making makes no sense for new players.

@gimbo_official Месяц назад

People who are talking about MA as unfriendly for new players don't really have anything to compare with. Other f2p games are basically pay 2 play (not 2 win), because u'll enjoy them only if you pay on a regular basis. So MA among f2p is super balanced. EMs and railguns are less effective but now you should pay attention to mods with them. It's just even more skilled based weapon. However, the new tournament matchmaking - I love it! I'll definitely try at different lower hangars, but basically all my losses were because lower hangar players were playing support roles very effectively: stasis barrier, aegis dome, orion's mark, zephyr and even cryo jevelins. The only thing it's hard to understand which player is stronger/experienced. So i would suggest adding some identification for friendly to understand who is who. Therefore the more experienced player may command the battle, at least commands from this player would be considered as more effective.

@TatyanaKamenetska Месяц назад

I don't like fighting players bc all of them are either sp dropping or just entirely better then me

@lmeobuh7009 Месяц назад

I downloaded the game to play again after like 2 years offline and oh god :(((, found 3 hackers in 1 day, a bunch of p2w players and unfair matchmaking in Tournament,..etc. The experience was so bad that I deleted the game after like 2 days ,

@e-thanos2335 Месяц назад

What sp are u?

@pogsterplays Месяц назад

Getting almost or full squads is actually a lot of fun, at least when there's not a maxed ember 12 nomad and revoker surge and storm rack seeker on the enemy team...

@scape211 Месяц назад

agreed. I kinda like this way of playing tourney in the grand scheme. Like I said it feels like a small step in the right direction. But it needs massive work to be viable/playable for everyone.

@myleswharton6622 Месяц назад

Begining of the day I play against 3 * when am 4 stars tiea 6 then at night am playing fully maxed players like full mods and maxed pilots maxed mechs 🤦‍♂️🤣 I hate the easy but don't want to be sweating just to get one or two kills feeling like am letting team down 😂

@Absolutan Месяц назад

That usual for me too, 3 star mech mine and 6 star purple mech to every enemy

@qrullgx13 Месяц назад

They prolly thinking the new players would go 'oh noes im so weak, i must spend money to get more powerful weapons/mechs'.🤷‍♂️

@user-nl5ex5cx4w Месяц назад

If the goal is to get new players to delete this game as soon as possible, then id say mission accomplished PLARIUM!! This is turning into utter garbage.

@user-kw8ev2db7f Месяц назад

Что-то у плариума пошло не так. Я вчера сходил в турнир там происходило просто убийство всего что движется . Я со своим ангаром в 10500хр убивал всё живое . Мне жалко было маленьких но не я злой такой так решил плариум. За 2 раунда 44 убийства вот такой результат.🤔

@chriswaddle7450 Месяц назад

Mods haven't improved the meta

@scape211 Месяц назад

This is still up for debate imo. Its more so down to preference of the pace of the game. But the problem is that most dont have many mods and those that do likely face bots right now. So the meta for mods is.....kinda non-existent....

@chriswaddle7450 Месяц назад

The mods have made javs and helixs useless, my maxed out 16s take 3 full shots from both to kill anything with the overhead shield.

@PyroRobo Месяц назад

It's nice to go against players but the balance is currently all over the place. I've had players 2k to 6k above and below me all in the same match. It's a new and mostly welcome change that needs some tuning. I'm at about 7k and I don't like seeing 3k players with paid stuff mowing down everything though. The best battles are usually between fellow F2P players where we trade thumbs ups as we try to out wit one another. Those are the best battles. Some true fun and painful mutual understanding.

@beholder1972 Месяц назад

Besides all this, I've noticed way too many freezes in the game experience. I find it very frustrating when you are behind a few kill points and the game goes out. They need to fix these bug issues asap.

@KingdomeBleachers Месяц назад

It's terrible for new and low sp players. Awful. That being said, I used this time to finish the Solis event by getting the 25 mvp's with Solis (for 300 a coins), and also finished the Eclipse Helix Rack kills achievement (which was my final Eclipse achievement to do) because killing bots with mods makes helix racks very weak. So in that sense I've enjoyed the change. 😅

@wiggy8912 Месяц назад

Just the fact that they’re testing this horse 💩 on live players is insane. They’ve lost their damned minds.

@Onepiece-is-real--whitebeard Месяц назад

How the heck can be there progress when someone cannot even stand for 1 sec and get killed 💀

@staltus Месяц назад

As a 4.4k sp player I gotta say this sucks. All 12 matches for the day had at least 2 10K+ players in them. Not fun when one or two guys kill you in your spawn before you can turn around 4 times after they smash you on the initial clash.

@swatiagarwal4282 Месяц назад

Hey Scape, I'm very interested in the best hangar now in 2024 as the last time you uploaded that type of video was almost 1 year ago

@codeonexz3813 Месяц назад

From what I noticed usually the mismatch teams are in balance when clan members invite their way too high or way too low members into their teams

@andrewgordon4770 Месяц назад

Legitimate question here. What were they even testing? They said fairness in matchmaking and I'm hoping they address SP dropping; but from this experience it's clearly not and massively flubbed. Games have beta test servers for a reason so this kind of thing doesn't make it to live servers. Had this tournament been conducted on test servers with volunteering testers sure no problem. The fact that it was done on live servers speaks of ineptitude.

@drewe7710 Месяц назад

I was wondering why I was facing maxed mechs while using 4* and 5* mechs… Wow!

@eboubaker3722 Месяц назад

Instead of crying like others here. I noticed that usually when there is high SP player on the oppomnet side all his team mates are squishy so I just leave him do his thing and I use my eclipse and go hunt his squishy team mates, yes we lose but I get a lot of points more than him sometimes. Also if it is a single player i will use my hemlock and keep him dazed all the time(I have ability reload implant) and use EM to kill his teammates

@corwynmanning Месяц назад

Do u have any advice for getting aegis bluerints? I need to rank him up to get him on the power level i need hes still good but not what i know he is capable of

@brandonjackson9047 Месяц назад

I'm averaging 30 kills per match. Previous to this, when mods came out, I was averaging 8 kills per match. Previous to this, before Plarium started meddling, I was averaging 12 kills per match. What. A. Mess.

@eddiejo3337 Месяц назад

It's relatively okay to monetize access, that just ends up being a time and overall interest thing. However, the way that this game is monetizing skill is absurd. They coddle the spenders so much that the access being bought is compounded with soft targets they are matched with. Even spenders should have a little pride as gamers to not be okay with this

@ash_vortex Месяц назад

I tried it it feels good to not struggle for once but it's probably going to get harder as the each day days go by until the tournament ends

@WickyMA Месяц назад

Platinum did a video showcasing a few of his matches. He got 50 kills in one of them... I don't know what pay-rium was trying to do but I call it a failure so far

@TatyanaKamenetska Месяц назад

And there is also a bug that if one of your mechs don't have any weapons u will fight really high level stuff

@ZiOn-wu6wh Месяц назад

Escupe me scape do you prefer disrupter 6 or chain gun 6?

@Draslyn Месяц назад

from what I have seen this most likely wont be liked, due to both making it so tankers dont even have to try to tank, as well as the fact that people want players in normal matches and bots in tourney so that people can farm for tournament points, while having competition in normal matches so that they are fun.

@JLPSlegal Месяц назад

Worst change ever. Totally uncalled for, when most of my mechs are 3-4 stars fighting maxed out mechs in every match.

@LorneWilson-x4i Месяц назад

So this is what I came against. One Mech killed 41, really 41? I have 2 level 12 and three with 16 and he had a maxed out vertex with maxed out booster and maxed out mods with weapons if 32. I quite

@titan_codes Месяц назад

As a solo player mostly, i should not be seeing people that are more than 1k power above me. Playing against actual players is nice but its been a steamroll one way or another

@TheAirwky Месяц назад

Assists are broken. I've worn mechs down completely and gotten zero credit for it. Needs to be addressed...

@bluepaladin9630 Месяц назад

Quickest way to fix tourney would be to link the rewards to where you place per BATTLE, rather than per day. You get first on your team, you get more Acoins. Course, that would wreck their business model. But that’s how F2P games go

@user-kw8ev2db7f Месяц назад

На мой взгляд нужно менять систему подсчёта очков в турнире. И пробовать формировать подбор не от силы предмета с которым игрок идёт в бой а от силы всего ангара который он имеет. Вот тогда игрок не сможет занижать свой ангар и ходить обижать новых игроков. Вообще пока не устранится проблема с снижением ангара на котором игрок идёт в турнир проблему не решить. Так как старый опытный игрок понизил свой ангар и пошёл в турнир где попадает с новыми не опытными и как правило слабыми роботами и оружием игрокам .😂

@scape211 Месяц назад

Ive always thought tourney should be a set number of matches you play and your overall score then gets calculated. But I assume they wanted it to be a mode where you arent gated off to number of matches so people can play to their hearts content. Also, some players rely more on the grind than pure skill. So its trying to accommodate all. That said, Id agree with something to more to what you or I prepose.

@Peulut Месяц назад

@@scape211 I would prefer a set number of matches actually, this can also help players that don't have a infinite amount of time, like you for example. It also makes it more skill-based.

@user-kw8ev2db7f Месяц назад

@@scape211Верно друг! Турнир это хорошее соревнование. Но в турнире должен быть 1- уровень игроков одинаковый хотя бы с не большой погрешностью. 2- таблица у этих игроков должна быть своя . Это на мой взгляд должно быть так игроки сражаются к примеру в 1 лиге и таблица должна соответствовать 1 лиге. Если игроки 2 лиги то и таблица так же 2 лиги. Но так как у нас многие игроки ставят роботов с более низкими звёздами и идут в турнир пытаясь попасть в низкую лигу заранее зная что там им нет равных но имеет общую силу ангара гораздо большую но боятся там сражаться. Значит нужно сделать так что бы данный игрок имея большие возможности но делает себе маленький ангар ходит бить маленьких . Значит такому игроку делать зачисление очков с минусом к примеру 50% и пусть ставит нормальный ангар и идёт в свою лигу. Ну вот как то так было бы желание а уровнять что бы все были довольны можно.😊

@AtifPatel-zy6dx Месяц назад

Helo scape which one should i get ember 12 or MR 12

@ACE_2.00 Месяц назад

They really need to continue full player match making. This makes the game significantly more enjoyable however not at the expense of playing 2.5k to 11k. I suppose time will tell if it gets changed as they said each day the matchmaking will be significantly harder and harder. This is the first time I just played tournament only yesterday, as it was all 5v5.

@scape211 Месяц назад

agreed. I kinda like this way of playing tourney in the grand scheme. Like I said it feels like a small step in the right direction. But it needs massive work to be viable/playable for everyone.

@cldude691 Месяц назад

Yeah as he said, if you are

@sleepycCh Месяц назад

I do not actually care about high sp and low sp players in the same matches if it happens due to random matchmaking. It doesn’t exactly seem random tho and I’ve seen a few lopsided matches where 1 team has much stronger players. Also I thought in lower tournament brackets like novice I would see a lot more lower sp players overall

@scape211 Месяц назад

Yea I thought it was going to scale more based on their wording in the game news too. Seeing this makes me wonder how it will go for the week.

@rangaswamytc7486 Месяц назад

Bro when is the next main account play of mods ?

@scape211 Месяц назад

tbh, I dont cover my main account as much since I need more daily play on my alt. Also, I dont have many mods on the main account so it doesnt really cover mod play. I dont spend money on this game right now so I likely wont have mods on that account for a bit.

@brentp.4090 Месяц назад

And I've solo qued as well as teams

@seanokhoo5930 Месяц назад

Just got on my alt account 650 sp got matched with two others with 10k sp

@brthk Месяц назад

Don't get what they are testing. Had some tough ones, but the majority I get like 40 kills. I don't sp drop, just matched with weak opponents, bots and player alike??

@scape211 Месяц назад

I think they are trying to more aggressively deal with SP droppers since thats most prevalent in this mode. Not sure though.

@brentp.4090 Месяц назад

Playing against roided out bots is getting boring because they can't think. It's like playing a 2 year old

@itsaom5152 Месяц назад

Bro, this game is a shit now, is that a fair matchmaking? Lol😂😂this tournament is not for us, its for maxed player😢2500sp Against max 12000 sp😅

@MechManiaX1 Месяц назад

bruh, watch the video

@itsaom5152 Месяц назад

@@MechManiaX1 yap, watch😊 I am poor at English, so just see😊

@prajwalmahale1738 Месяц назад

But i got bots specially weak bots

@c-yr6iv Месяц назад

i'm sorry but i absolutely HATE THIS i'm around 2K but i'm fighting 8K+

@c-yr6iv Месяц назад

my teammates: puma,slingshot,lancer,juggernaut and a M.D my enemies: MAX redox,panther,nomad,surge and gatecrasher

@kinmaamnik Месяц назад

I straight up uninstalled last night because I dont have maxed out mechs like the wallet warriors

@brentp.4090 Месяц назад

This is not true. I've played 12 games in a row with no real match ups

@kurtkahn8781 Месяц назад

I play games where I waited 2 minutes to start a game that way they can pile the best players with each other. This whole 30 seconds then you start is there a worse problem

@scape211 Месяц назад

I have asked them about this before. I know they have done some testing with longer ques and result didnt change the outcome much. That was a while ago though. I wonder if a longer time with the current algorithm would yield better teams. Not sure.

@kurtkahn8781 Месяц назад

@@scape211 thank you for the response. I tried to get ahold of developers myself but they don't want to talk to me lol

@Argonaut80 Месяц назад

Today after either getting obliterated, or being the obliterator, I decided to hang up this game. I’ve spent a good amount of money playing this game in the past year. It was justifiable, because it made up almost 100% of my downtime entertainment. I’ve consistently held a 76% win rate, which isn’t amazing, but made me feel semi competitive. I’m done. I’m not wasting anymore money. Mods is a joke, and almost had me quitting a few weeks ago, but these miss matched tournament games the past two days is the straw that breaks the camels back. I’m headed back to WOTB.

@ShirishSutharsanan.M Месяц назад

SP dropping was farcmore better to this 😢

@dudditz Месяц назад

They killed fast paced pvp with shields and now tourney

@natertots17 Месяц назад

I’ve been getting wrecked, new changes are lame so far

@gregr916 Месяц назад

17 mechs destroyed with seeker + em, really fun for me, but really cheated, completely bad useless update for small levels and f2p. EDIT : plarium should smooth out the power, all mechs and weapons at the same level. Big hangars and max hangars will still have an advantage because they will have a build with heavier weapons, but at least it gives a chance to the small level

@scape211 Месяц назад

I have similar views, but it depends on where the put the smoothing out of levels. I dont know how easy this is to do or if the algorithm will tighten this up naturally. Its hard to tell at this point, but gating off SP levels seems like a reasonable area to begin with. Its just including everything right now.

@magnusgunn1911 Месяц назад

Game is trash lol. Killuminati

@TatyanaKamenetska Месяц назад

So I miss bots

@EgZhiGen1949CD Месяц назад

Good evening Scape

@scape211 Месяц назад

good evening

@vgaming5034 Месяц назад

Not even funny im 4k sp matched vs bunch of 2k sp people. So the more game progresess the less fair it gets😂

@silviomelesi Месяц назад

I uninstalled the game today…

@________________________9 Месяц назад

let me guess,another useless update?lol

@misterdot6923 Месяц назад

years of playing this game the fact ive never seen more than 2 real players in a match says something

@rahulrajkunar Месяц назад

I love this thing

@firethunder5462 Месяц назад

Try free to play

@clays_carvings8359 Месяц назад

Way better than it was in my opinion

@Thunderbaylivegoogle Месяц назад

People need to stop crying or complaining, while it sucks atm it is a scaling difficulty algorithm. Everyone used to have a basic match making rating, it was reset for everyone tho previously it was more sp power/winrate based. While the sp swings are crazy atm for alot of people it will level out and scale as you lose/win more games. Was it a rough implementation 100% yes, but it will be a effective way to slow sp droppers down to a certain extent lol. All you can do really is get your games in bad or good and get your adjusted mmr(Match Making Rating) it is obviously what Mech Arena intended to do to slow down match making abuse. Example if you score alot of wins and high points/kills your bracket will get harder and harder till it levels you out. I wont explain the full mechanics since it will give sp abusers a basic idea of what they are doing, but it should def slow them down and get people with similar skill into more games together. They are really just rebuilding you a new Match Making Rating and sadly sp abusers use low and mid level hangars hence the pain for lower hangars, just grind out your games get your basic matchmaking rating set and it will swing back to normal.

@Inqurzion Месяц назад

No I got destroyed by a player with a fully maxed out hangar when I'm just in mid game and while in the lowest tournament rank!!

@scape211 Месяц назад

I hope you are right and this gets reigned in. But it doesnt mean we should deny talking about this experience. Its clearly going to be bad for a lot of players and overall retention. That said, I do want to see how it progresses for the week. Hopefully it gets better.

@Mech_arena_1 Месяц назад

@@scape211it is so terrible I am battling maxed out people with 3.5k power

@feisty8 Месяц назад

@Thunderbaylivegoogle What are you talking about? You wrote a whole paragraph of "Nothing-Burger" depecting an exact opposite picture of reality - Why should a player with legit 3000 or 4000 SP during Early or Mid-Game face a player with 11000 or 12000 SP just because he won his last 10 or 12 games? How is that a logical reason to say "you were put against an unfair opponent just because you were doing well and you had to lose a few now". You went on-n-on about SP droppers while the main complain of players is that they are being put against players 3 or 4 times of their SP (NO ONE said - THEY'RE PUT AGAINST SP DROPPERS).

@tsrmmercy836 Месяц назад

@@feisty8EXACTLY, I shouldn’t have to battle maxed hangars just because I beat out my competition! If a skilled player is winning consistently, they should be rewarded, not pushed into a lobby that out gears their own hangar. How about we place limits on the range of star ranks everyone has. Match the weapon and mechs! Not the win/loss ratio.

@animasaha9499 Месяц назад

The thing is that ....pvp mobile games already have a low player base with regards to number of players required to have a single match. And in MA is really low ....and getting worse. The thing is ..i am not complaining but its important to note down that yout typical 13 year old player isnt a WHALE who will spend chungus ammount.....nor is a player like us who are here from the dawn of MA ...and will play in any situation. They will simply get frustrated and leave. Yeah ruffels was correct about game developing is not a childs play its requires money. But again your typical 13 year old isnt a WHALE.......BUT........that 13 year old is sure participating in making this game a PVP game and not PVBot game. Thus supporting the game by keeping it interesting and motivating the WHALES 🤌🏻 ...to spend more 💵✨. Also its just not matchmaking....its about the resource system...the irregularities of the events........also new player's destroying the hell out of match making with bought nomads💀✨. (Match making considering f2p and p2w players is a real deal) ..also the balance between the legendary and epic stuff ...its all over the place.

@animasaha9499 Месяц назад

Ok that's a lot to read😂🤣. I don't even know if u will read this scape....but I hope the game states alive ...there are way to memorise to loose🙂. Also ...me mentioning "WHALE" is just a sarcasm I don't hate them .. peace ✌🏻🕊️