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Towing 11,000 pounds with a Ford F-150 Lightning... MAXED OUT! 

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Yeah Electric Trucks are fun - but can they DO stuff? Today we find out how far the Ford F-150 Lightning can tow its MAX payload of 11,000lbs. Huge thanks to Weigh Safe for sponsoring this video: www.weigh-safe.com/jre150 And thanks to Ford for letting me borrow the F-150 Lightning. Sorry for going over the max capacity - i dont count good.
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@SupernovaeTech
@SupernovaeTech Год назад
Now we need the Rivian retested and both the HMMWV EV and Hummer EV tested the same way. A leaderboard of electric trucks with towing range and acceleration would be pretty sweet as more options reach the market.
@kingzach74
@kingzach74 Год назад
He already tested the Rivian.
@SupernovaeTech
@SupernovaeTech Год назад
@@kingzach74 It would be interesting to see how much the range improves in warmer weather
@hazard_209
@hazard_209 Год назад
​@@SupernovaeTech plus tires and figuring the tongue weight in.
@Mr_MikeMikeMike
@Mr_MikeMikeMike Год назад
@@kingzach74 hence the "retested"
@bitelogger
@bitelogger Год назад
Totally agreed
@alkalk8938
@alkalk8938 Год назад
That backup assist is awesome for backing a jetski trailer, those short trailers are a PIA. With the rear camera and the backup assist it a POC...Piece Of Cake!
@davidhuber6251
@davidhuber6251 Год назад
It's nice seeing a test like this with no obvious bias. Good job.
@danieltaylor4819
@danieltaylor4819 Год назад
Try it in the wintertime, when it's snowing and blowing with outside temp of 10 degrees. That would be interesting.
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 Год назад
Yeah with the heater blasting
@Johnny-es1wl
@Johnny-es1wl Год назад
Lol, 5 miles at best.
@bfields1448
@bfields1448 Год назад
Junk
@Ragranos
@Ragranos Год назад
Nah then you guys would just invent some other niche unlikely scenario where ICE beats EV. You search for the conditions that make EVs bad because you're scared.
@lumicolour1
@lumicolour1 Год назад
Only if he tests a fossil powered truck under the same conditions.
@jd5179
@jd5179 Год назад
12 secs while towing 10k lbs of weight is insane
@roosoorschot93
@roosoorschot93 Год назад
While going up!
@XLRSAv
@XLRSAv Год назад
My Honda Ridgeline does that by itself on a dry day! 😅
@chadd587
@chadd587 Год назад
Range: 50 miles
@blue_ig1
@blue_ig1 Год назад
@@chadd587 it had about a hundred
@chadd587
@chadd587 Год назад
@@blue_ig1 lol yeah on a full charge too
@MumstheThird
@MumstheThird Год назад
That's my e-GOLF charging next to you that's rated for 124 miles. It's crazy that you can match my range while towing 10K.
@coldnapalmFJ
@coldnapalmFJ Год назад
Well the lightning was 100k how much was your golf cart ?
@MumstheThird
@MumstheThird Год назад
@coldnapalmFJ MSRP was $31K, back in 2017. But the dealer discounted it $4K, NY state paid for $2K, and then I got the $7.5k federal rebate, so not factoring taxes and registration, I paid $17.5k and VW fiananced it at 0%.
@raysmith4309
@raysmith4309 Год назад
Excellent, honest test of the Lightening. For the moment I had already ruled out EV's, as we have a travel trailer and needing to stop every 100 miles or so and wait 30+ minutes to charge is not practical. Thanks for your report
@stangman962
@stangman962 Год назад
Also have you seen an accessible charger with a trailer attached??
@oldmanrock7542
@oldmanrock7542 Год назад
Same here. Traveling with a camp trailer is not going to work with an EV.
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 5 месяцев назад
The best place I see EV Trucks working is either a local delivery or if all your work with your tool trailer is local. With in this scenario i can see these trucks having huge advantages, but perhaps not much outside that.
@haydenwhite2413
@haydenwhite2413 Год назад
Great video about an amazing truck! I haven't needed to tow anything in mine yet, so this is very helpful info. Thanks!
@shawntoadally
@shawntoadally Год назад
I want to see this done with the Rivian again, under the same conditions (spring weather, road tires). If you do, it would be good to know if Rivian has provided any software updates since your first towing test (perhaps they've improved the range estimations when towing and/or added options to see more data on the screen).
@navithefairy
@navithefairy Год назад
Especially the cold weather makes a really big difference
@zachbendixen21
@zachbendixen21 Год назад
Rivian increased the range by around 20 miles since his test via a software update.
@cruiser97eric1
@cruiser97eric1 Год назад
Also the route followed and the average speed needs to be the same to have a fair comparison.
@SaltySouthTexan
@SaltySouthTexan Год назад
@@navithefairy Not in a gasoline truck!
@SaltySouthTexan
@SaltySouthTexan Год назад
@@zachbendixen21 20 whole miles??? HAHAHAHAHAHA. I could almost make it halfway out of the ranch.
@camb9319
@camb9319 Год назад
Great content as always. Love the drone shots, pretty cool being able to see portions of your drive from above and following along with Google Maps. :)
@ndafarachaitezvi1139
@ndafarachaitezvi1139 Год назад
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
@bryce6870
@bryce6870 Год назад
Very insightful video! Enjoyed how you showed the reverse pilot on the Ford lighting!
@XLRSAv
@XLRSAv Год назад
Nothing like Zack pushing the limits of every vehicle!
@YAHUWAHISKING
@YAHUWAHISKING Год назад
You mean shilling
@Mr.BobsDog
@Mr.BobsDog Год назад
You mean pineapple
@andrasbrunczel3777
@andrasbrunczel3777 Год назад
He is pushing literally everything to its limits
@kyohiromitsu4010
@kyohiromitsu4010 Год назад
Too much monry
@techs1smh13
@techs1smh13 Год назад
I want the H1 take my DMAX engine trans install.
@jarmis777
@jarmis777 Год назад
You should redo the Rivian test in this same weather. I bet they’re neck and neck! The previous winter drive in the Rivian puts it at a significant disadvantage.
@Aragorn450
@Aragorn450 Год назад
The real question would be if Rivian fixed their range estimates. That was the biggest issue with the Rivian's test...
@jarmis777
@jarmis777 Год назад
@@Aragorn450 that as well
@ericroe
@ericroe Год назад
The weather I'm sure played a big part of it, but remember the Rivian is more aerodynamic than the Lightning, so the Lighting will loose slightly less range than the Rivian with the non-aerodynamic load behind it.
@jarmis777
@jarmis777 Год назад
@@ericroe good point.
@USUG0
@USUG0 Год назад
indeed, as it always comes down to aerodynamic drag, the larger frontal area of the lighting as compared to the rivian, comes in handy when towing a brick like the hummer. Poking out slightly less.
@Marksin866
@Marksin866 Год назад
I love your voice. You have this calm voice during teardown's you don't strain or force words just smooth and and you pronounce you words on key. You make a mistake there is no silent pause no awkwardness like you meant for it. And most people like that seem emotionless when they speak but you're not. You can hear the variations and tone changes. It's a very calming voice. You would make a very good interrogator. While someone is trying to get under your skin to make themselves fire up and become defensive. You remain calm and throw them off their game. It's just WOW! Rare to hear a voice like that.
@camonly849
@camonly849 Год назад
Pulled my 5500lb trailer with my dad's 16 f150 2.7. Towed it 180 miles to the track, towed it back, and still had 100 more miles if not more of range.....man I love gas 🤣
@michaelallen2870
@michaelallen2870 Год назад
AWESOME COMMENT
@eagle25311
@eagle25311 Год назад
I love diesel more. 600 miles of range.
@camonly849
@camonly849 Год назад
@Ryan M ya idk if it's worth it with light weight. You might get 2 mpgs better...which isn't anything.
@alekseyabramchuk6718
@alekseyabramchuk6718 Год назад
I love my Cummins more
@camonly849
@camonly849 Год назад
@@alekseyabramchuk6718 diesel is awesome, but it would upset me if I got the same mpg and am paying more in gas.
@paramotorbrandon
@paramotorbrandon Год назад
1:07 well the warmer temps alone will make the range go up quite a bit. Definitely do it again with the Rivian in this weather for a good comparison!
@SN-hn9zi
@SN-hn9zi Год назад
He says that at the beginning
@kazzxtrismus
@kazzxtrismus Год назад
rivian battery is heated....itll only effect the first few minutes (maybe 20 mins?)
@derteater
@derteater Год назад
​@@kazzxtrismus wanna tell me how they heat up the batteries?
@kingzach74
@kingzach74 Год назад
@@kazzxtrismus That probably actually killed the range from the fact that it had to heat up the batteries.
@wildepawthefox
@wildepawthefox Год назад
@@kazzxtrismusWarmer air is less dense, meaning it’ll have less effects on the car. The drag in hot air is smaller than cold air. Nothing to do with heated batteries
@Caseys_Yaris_that_could
@Caseys_Yaris_that_could Год назад
7:13 so if you switch it to one pedal mode, it actually applies full re-gen as soon as you let off. You can come to a complete stop without using the brake on one pedal too
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything Год назад
I normally have one pedal mode enabled. But when I switched to tow mode it disabled one pedal driving.
@Scott-sm9nm
@Scott-sm9nm Год назад
Good nugget there. thx. -- "SWITCHING ONE PEDAL DRIVE ON AND OFF -- Press CONTROLS; Press Drive Modes; Switch 1-Pedal Drive on or off."
@IGmeanwell
@IGmeanwell Год назад
Yep Lightning disables one pedal while in Tow/Haul mode. Can’t really control the regen.
@wolfpack09nh48
@wolfpack09nh48 Год назад
Bro… it’s against physics to keep regen/stopping with a trailer attached..it can get jackknifed for being stupid
@Scott-sm9nm
@Scott-sm9nm Год назад
@@wolfpack09nh48, A well designed regen system will work just like regular brakes as far as trailer towing is concerned. Regen systems can turn on the brake lights and thus trigger the trailer brakes as well just as if you manually were applying physical brakes. In a few electric vehicles I've owned the brake lights turn on during 'harder' regen. In fact, there are laws/regulations related to the G force limits when brake lights are engaged.
@danielholland8255
@danielholland8255 9 месяцев назад
Very cool video, thanks for sharing. I a, 3 days into XLT ownership and LOVE it. I’m also a Polestar performance owner, but this trumps it with range…
@glennlisagore
@glennlisagore Год назад
Awesome content, thank you Ford for the loan. Great interesting video.
@CraigMatsuura
@CraigMatsuura Год назад
Love to see all trucks tow, especially here in Utah. Maybe try something many do where they tow there boat up to Strawberry go fishing and drive back down to the valley. I personally would like to see if a 18 to 20 bass boat (dual axle) can be towed to strawberry and back. Or a longer trip to Flaming Gorge, where you would need to charge on the way there. A boat is a bit more aerodynamic so it would be interesting, and less weight. BTW: Great job Zack!
@motorv8N
@motorv8N Год назад
Fantastic video thanks -must admit it went further that I thought it would. Awesome reverse assist. Been backing up trailers for close on 40 years so it doesn’t intimidate me but that’s a nice feature anyway! Unfortunately that truck is still way too expensive to meet my ROI expectations as a simple weekend warrior…
@davedavenport8673
@davedavenport8673 Год назад
Have you done the Total Cost to Operate calcs? It might surprise you. Most people only calculate monthly payment since many ICE vehicles are the close to the same on other operating costs, but EVs are different. You can have higher payments because fuel is way cheaper and very little cost on maintenance.
@Zappy1210
@Zappy1210 Год назад
I'm not even goin to watch this. My Uncle bought the Lightning 2 years ago... so proud of it UNTIL!!! He tried to tow his 1,100 pound camper 250 miles and it didn't even make it 150 before it died lol. He is now very proud of his new Ran 2500 diesel!
@justinsugay1149
@justinsugay1149 Год назад
Super useful. This is inspiring. Not yet ideal but not as bad as I thought. Much better actually. Same test under cold conditions would be also useful. Thank you!
@kennedy98796
@kennedy98796 Год назад
it would be a lot different in colder weather, even hand held lithium tools have a shorter battery when its cold
@phakyou
@phakyou Год назад
9:53 Goes to show the crazy amount of engineering that goes into making these machines efficient. No one could've seen this coming 20 years ago.
@tschuuuls486
@tschuuuls486 Год назад
Other than GM, that had an awesome electric car but killed it (GM EV1).
@randho5150
@randho5150 Год назад
Elon saw it coming.
@kyohiromitsu4010
@kyohiromitsu4010 Год назад
Yeah for all that money i could buy a semi truck
@Ryan-sw3km
@Ryan-sw3km Год назад
​@@tschuuuls486 that thing was kinda a junker. The battery was crap in anything but super ideal conditions
@ryanvirgil1395
@ryanvirgil1395 Год назад
electric vehicles have always been more efficient than gas ones. This is why your gas engine gets so dang hot because it's less than 35% efficient (all waste heat). EV is like 85% efficient.
@AdamEdward
@AdamEdward Год назад
super impressive, for daily towing a lighter load with landscaping equipment etc, this would have more than enough range to get around town. good job ford!
@lemongavine
@lemongavine Год назад
Around town, you’ll get much more range vs. freeway driving so yeah, it would do great for that. You could probably even have enough excess energy to charge electric mowers, trimmers, etc. from the onboard outlets. If I were starting a landscaping company, I would 100% have electric equipment and and electric truck. Cost savings would add up quickly.
@fastfed
@fastfed Год назад
And yet not 1 single professional bought this truck for professional use lmfao . Evs are useless
@logitech4873
@logitech4873 Год назад
@@fastfed Source: trust me bro
@kyleftw1679
@kyleftw1679 Год назад
​@@logitech4873You're a liberal, so you can't even trust your own assigned gender.
@justing224
@justing224 Год назад
@@fastfed in Madison WI, the city gas sector switched to pretty much all Lightnings
@jacksonsneed7689
@jacksonsneed7689 Год назад
My girlfriend got her Lightning in November 2022, and I think she loves her truck more than she loves me. I'm joking of course . . . . I KNOW she does! I don't blame her, it's absolutely incredible; SO MUCH FUN TO DRIVE! 😀👍 Great video as always Zack! Thanks brother!
@Hobbies4Hire
@Hobbies4Hire Год назад
Great job on the video Zack! Thanks for making it.
@investingjim2801
@investingjim2801 Год назад
I am here for the drone shots....and I am not disappointed. Those snow covered mountains!
@gcauldwell
@gcauldwell Год назад
Now, I MUST go back and watch the entire thing again!
@spoolin55psi
@spoolin55psi Год назад
A mild package super duty has lots of those features as well including the trailor park assist which if you can actually back a trailor up the assist is actually confusing
@billpaxton1345
@billpaxton1345 Год назад
Can't wait to tow my boat with one of these. The 3.5 hr trip from St Louis to lake of the Ozarks will only take 4 days with charging. What an awesome future!
@gmquiroa
@gmquiroa Год назад
Enjoy watching your honest review. F150 Lightning Lariat owner and I like the Rivian as well.
@paulsmyers203
@paulsmyers203 Год назад
Thanks a ... 5 tons for making the video! Definitely need to retest the R1T in similar conditions. Tires and temperature make an enormous difference.
@675daytonarider
@675daytonarider Год назад
According to Rivian the A/T tires rob 54 miles of range. As a fellow Rivian owner I’d be interested in those results. Love the content.
@hdvictoryford5329
@hdvictoryford5329 Год назад
Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck
@newscoulomb3705
@newscoulomb3705 Год назад
I'd be really interested to see this run in the Chevy Silverado EV when it comes out as well. If Tesla is leaning too hard on aerodynamics for their Cybertruck range, it could be the most negatively affected EV truck when it comes to towing large, heavy loads. Ultimately, it will come down to battery size, and 1 mi/kWh is pretty much my rule of thumb for fullsize EV truck efficiency when towing.
@goodness6664
@goodness6664 Год назад
Thank you for clarifying this time that the power for towing isn’t the issue, rather range 😎😀
@gregsimpson621
@gregsimpson621 Год назад
I figured 150 miles before you started. Overall, I am impressed with this electric Ford F 150. I can see me using it to tow my favorite antique RV trailer. Great information, as usual!!! Thanks Zack!
@TheOpinionatedYouTuber
@TheOpinionatedYouTuber Год назад
Zach, you are a national treasure. Your videos are always informative, entertaining, and well-produced. I love the way you use drone shots to capture the beauty of Utah, and I always learn something new from your videos. I'm particularly impressed by your commitment to electric vehicles. You're doing a great job of educating people about the benefits of EVs, and you're helping to make the world a better place. Keep up the great work, Zach! I'm a big fan of your channel, and I can't wait to see what you do next.
@-.-..._...-.-
@-.-..._...-.- 10 месяцев назад
I also like all the other films you are in where you are a doctor, firefighter, teacher, action hero etc. You're my favorite entertainer
@SimonPollock
@SimonPollock Год назад
Great vid! THat backup feature is rad. Very much looking forward to your take on CYbErTruCk
@nanooseguy327
@nanooseguy327 Год назад
great video, great info. Thanks for that !!
@craigbucci7950
@craigbucci7950 Год назад
Great video! The lightning did better than I thought!
@robertdoyle8785
@robertdoyle8785 Год назад
I don't understand why the EV crowd keeps under estimating FoMoCo and GMs electric offerings. Yes, they aren't always going to be on the cutting edge of technology like a start up like Rivian or new kid on the block Tesla. But none in the world has more experience building pickups than they do. There is a reason Rivian made a partnership with Ford to begin with.
@rakeemGTR
@rakeemGTR Год назад
I'm not even a car guy, let alone a truck guy, but you've sold me on the lightning 😂
@fjalics
@fjalics Год назад
How much do you know about the lightning? That frunk is really well done, and the power in the frunk sounds really nice. It even has 220V in the back. The pack in the lightning is in a completely different weight class than a starter battery. You don't do anything to it playing the radio.
@REAPEROFTOES
@REAPEROFTOES Год назад
I am really holding out for a Maverick Lighting. I don't need a truck for towing and what not but I'd like a truck bed for my bikes.
@gabrielgalaxygh
@gabrielgalaxygh Год назад
They're around 100k somif you buy it you're a moron unfortunately. A fool and his money are easily parted
@safetylast911
@safetylast911 Год назад
Remember that was starting at 100% you will never be starting at 100% when towing distance. Like taking your trailer camping or boat to the lake. So 100 miles is optimistic. Get gas/diesel for towing electric for cars
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 Год назад
I still wouldn’t get an electric truck for towing. If you’re road-tripping or using a camper an electric truck is useless. 100 miles is nowhere’s near enough for towing applications. Maybe in 10-15 years when some new battery is invented
@svdoinitright7519
@svdoinitright7519 Год назад
I looked at trading my F150 in for a lightning. The dealer asked about mileage when towing and I told him, I go from 22MPG bare to 9.5 when towing my big motorcycle trailer. He told me that I wouldn't get more 50-75 miles when towing. You're test kind of confirms that. My trailer is lighter than your test trailer, but it is a big, flat faced, enclosed trailer, so a huge amount of wind resistance.
@eagle25311
@eagle25311 Год назад
Yup electric trucks aren't even close to getting to the hunter crowd either. You have to drive to the woods in the cold, spend several days out there, then drive back. It's gonna be a while before an electric truck can be used for hunting trips.
@thebigdogsmac11
@thebigdogsmac11 Год назад
I own a mini electric vehicle myself! Very fun to drive! It's a hoverboard! It has some power!🤣
@reversedon8698
@reversedon8698 Год назад
I want to see same test 15 years later and 250k miles on the dash how it had effected the range
@hdvictoryford5329
@hdvictoryford5329 Год назад
Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck
@MrTophr
@MrTophr Год назад
Looks like a spring time test is needed with the Rivian, for a more even comparison
@KevinRDunn
@KevinRDunn Год назад
thanks for the test. I would love a Ford Maverick Lightning. Just don't need the fullsize truck anymore.
@Yielar1
@Yielar1 Год назад
Thanks for the towing test video. The Lightning is an impressive truck that's for sure. I know it's more interesting to push the limits and it's nice to see but people aren't buying a Lightning to tow 10,000 lbs typically. Of course, it's nice to have the option for around town. Since most people drive 30-40 miles per day they would charge maybe once per week or so. I'm currently driving the F150 Powerboost Hybrid and I'm reallly enjoying the extra power of the electric powertrain. I may pick up the 2nd Gen Lightning when I'm in the market for my next truck. Exciting times!
@hdvictoryford5329
@hdvictoryford5329 Год назад
Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck
@Yielar1
@Yielar1 Год назад
@@hdvictoryford5329 strange post. Crazy high repair bills happen every second for ice vehicles as well. Guess that's what insurance is for hey
@WSW0424
@WSW0424 Год назад
Have you seen the new 2024 Toyota Tacoma? They moved away from the V6 to the hybridized 2.4-liter turbocharged V4 engine. Should be around 25-29 MPG (depending on if you get the TRD Pro with all terrains and other mods that effect mpg) but, they haven't released those figures yet. The TRD Pro looks badass.
@colbygarrett03
@colbygarrett03 Год назад
I pulled 10k behind a 2003 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3L and it did hurt the milage, but it didn't hurt the range that bad
@kosiranze
@kosiranze Год назад
you do realize though that mileage and range are EXACTLY proportional to eachother?
@brawnto
@brawnto Год назад
IF that ever comes out, zing! Nice work, I love my Lightning Pro although I haven't towed with it yet.
@markcluff7104
@markcluff7104 11 месяцев назад
Great review dude!! Good job
@ninostephen
@ninostephen Год назад
Damn that's impressive!
@brianbaker9893
@brianbaker9893 Год назад
So, this confirms, again, towing with an EV any considerable distance would be a complete pain. Great to see a station where you can tow without disconnecting the trailer though. The torque is insane and superior here, but not realistic for vast majority of regular haulers. Will be cool to see when the energy density of batteries improves!! And that 12 seconds, nuts.
@hedleypepper1838
@hedleypepper1838 Год назад
Awsome job Ford, that reverse assist is incredible, want it for my caravan 😊
@paulmortensen6294
@paulmortensen6294 Год назад
That back up assist system looked pretty cool.
@KAALA432
@KAALA432 Год назад
Those Drone shots are good 👀👍
@rasberry4739
@rasberry4739 Год назад
It’s cool that your maxing out the towing and giving us the results. But most people that buy an electric truck are not towing this much. It wouldn’t mKe sense. I wanna see how far you can tow a 4000lbs travel trailer.
@cherrytreepermaculture756
@cherrytreepermaculture756 Год назад
Honestly aerodynamics matter much more than weight with an EV. Check out All Electric Family.
@rkan2
@rkan2 Год назад
​@@cherrytreepermaculture756Not just EV :P
@kevinpolito1529
@kevinpolito1529 Год назад
Most pickup owners (ie, not people who actually use them for work), who are all hat and no cattle, won't be bothered by not being able to do work with a truck. That's why most pickups are family station wagons with a vestigial bed that won't hold sheets of plywood or drywall.
@uglycouzin
@uglycouzin Год назад
So glad you made this video. I put my order in three weeks ago.
@Aragorn450
@Aragorn450 Год назад
I wonder if Ford will/does disable the second motor when you're at speed? It seems like it'd help give even better efficiency. From an outside view of never driving any of these, I've been happy with what Ford did with the F150 Lightning and it's great to see their software is doing so well since that's an area I'd expect an older company to do worse in actually.
@naarealy
@naarealy Год назад
IIRC Ford uses PM motors for both front and rear. There is no disconnect or freewheeling clutch, so essentially the motors must be powered 100% of the time. The reduction ratio is different front to rear, so the power output is shifted (slightly) front/rear depending on which motor is most efficient at a given speed/load.
@dylandero9069
@dylandero9069 Год назад
Great video test like this must be done on these electric trucks and comparisons between different brands is super important. Honestly my only issue with any of it is idk how anybody can justify waiting 40 minutes to get a full “tank.” Would drive me insane.
@crashedking1931
@crashedking1931 Год назад
and then only another 100 miles
@gumshoe-tech
@gumshoe-tech Год назад
it would add another 3 hours to a 5 hour trip for me......
@leerjet1868
@leerjet1868 Год назад
How about eating, and then take a shit. Read a magazine while shitting.
@aw9085
@aw9085 Год назад
kills me too.... maybe with the tesla chargers it will be better
@FGLKPaul
@FGLKPaul Год назад
Love finally seeing a good towing test for the lightning! The parking situation at the chargers highlights the one single issue there is with towing long distance with an EV though... We need better charging infrastructure for towing with trailers!
@fremue9312
@fremue9312 Год назад
Only getting ~100miles is also not great for long distances. Of course it can be done but it will get pretty difficult and annoying if you have to stop ever 1.5 to 2h to charge for at least 30min. I think it’s mainly worth it for people who mostly tow stuff close to their home.
@jailor1869
@jailor1869 Год назад
“One single issue?”…there are too many to count
@jeremyogburn732
@jeremyogburn732 Год назад
Cyber truck for sure. I've been saving and will trade in my WRX STI when it drops. My brother has a model 3 and will do the same. So stoked for it to come out!
@MichaelSinz
@MichaelSinz Год назад
With out F150 Lightning and the 4-hour trailer (which is basically a big 25 foot long, 8.5 x 8.5 foot box (height and width) box (with rounded front), the big cost is aerodynamic drag on the highway. We get around 1 mile/kWh when doing long trips (just did 110 mile round trip yesterday) I do wish that we could get a bit more range - would need more batteries. But when you consider than the batteries in the F150 has the energy equivalent of just under 4 gallons of gasoline, that is really not a bad range while towing nearly 10,000 pounds of bulky trailer. (PS - aerodynamic drag is much more of an impact than weight when traveling at highway speeds)
@roosoorschot93
@roosoorschot93 Год назад
Exactly! It's efficient. And refining the oil also costs a lot of energy, because it happens at a few hundred degrees.
@lesstevens2370
@lesstevens2370 Год назад
I would say it has the equivalent of 7 gallons of gas because of the inefficiency of gas motors only being around 30% the rest of the fuel goes out your tail pipe and your engine bay by heat
@MichaelSinz
@MichaelSinz Год назад
@@lesstevens2370 Well, you can say that but that is not right either. Would be more like 8 if you want to count the inefficiency but then my 2500HD only got 8 mpg when towing the horse trailer which would be 64 miles with 8 gallons and yet the Ford will do 120 with the trailer at highway speeds. (Ok, the 2500HD is older and has a massive v8 gasoline engine, but still) The physics of gasoline is that 1 gallon of gasoline is around 33.7 kwh of energy.- thus with getting around 1 mile per kwh, the Lightning is around 33.7mpg equivalent when towing at highway speeds with that big trailer.
@lesstevens2370
@lesstevens2370 Год назад
@Michael Sinz I agree with your statement yet it is being manipulated by big oil and gas because of the usd being based on oil and not the gold standard so evs threatens the very thing that drives the American society and now because of corruption and greed the very thing that made America great is gone and now it's an empty shell living off its had beens for the last 50 years and that is an empty tank that is full of nothing but gas fumes that could explode any minute there is a spark of opposition
@Scott-sm9nm
@Scott-sm9nm Год назад
Incredible variety of camera angles and displays really put these videos over the top. Love the content and explanations. One thing was unclear and that is why 2 stalls needed to be taken up. Seemed like one would have fit OK.
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything Год назад
I probably could fit in one stall... If I was more confident in my backing up skilz.
@jackpmeadows
@jackpmeadows Год назад
Always great. I kept waiting for you to do a teardown like on the phones.
@erickjuarez4074
@erickjuarez4074 Год назад
Great vid! Can't wait for the test on the CyberTruck.
@johnclesi3758
@johnclesi3758 Год назад
I personally would have used chain lanyards not ratchet straps. But I would say a good review on this video.
@austinvanderberg3748
@austinvanderberg3748 Год назад
he used a backup bungeee. all good.
@4ee
@4ee Год назад
The low range is a killer for EV trucks especially when you use it usually in rough conditions
@vidznstuff1
@vidznstuff1 Год назад
30MPGe in this truck while towing 10,000 is not a killer at all. Most contractors drive 65 miles a day tops and fuel is a huge expense.
@JamieGuzmam
@JamieGuzmam Год назад
Evs qre trash absolutely trash
@cliffordmontana4562
@cliffordmontana4562 Год назад
@@vidznstuff1 Fuel is a big expense, but you can get a gas xl trim f150 for 45-50k and you have LOTS of money for gas. 10 years worth approximately. And in ten years these batteries will be toast. I’m not against electric vehicles, I’m against democrats shoving them down our throats. If you tow, take long vacations or don’t have a garage with a charger to park in, then electric vehicles are terrible.
@francismarion6400
@francismarion6400 Год назад
So do people charge those trucks in their garages?
@Subwolfer7564
@Subwolfer7564 6 месяцев назад
@@cliffordmontana4562 You're against EV's. Tired of people coming out saying they hate them because of politics (nonexistent laws based on republican fearmongering tactics), then turning it around and claiming they're neutral. nobody has forced anything. 10 years is a very low number based on real world statistics (its cited on the right with nothing factual behind it). 45-50k is a stretch with these stealer ships
@timothyallbritton1961
@timothyallbritton1961 Год назад
I am 62 years old and have bought a new Ford truck every two years since the age of 28, I have owned a considerable number of them. I also used them in my business but those were only replaced as needed. Last year a lifelong friend (Rodney) and I decided to order two Ford Lightnings at the same time, boy was that a mistake. Both trucks had terrible electrical issues from day one. Sometimes they would not take a charge, other times the battery monitoring systems gave faulty readings, and the list goes on and on. Finally, my local dealer ask if we wanted to return the trucks for my usual F250 diesel, in which I did and Rodney just returned his with a full refund. Thanks but NO THANKS :)
@H20-Water-Pro-LLC
@H20-Water-Pro-LLC Год назад
Should tow a bumper pull camper of the same weight. The wind drag would be interesting to observe.
@mendelmarozov888
@mendelmarozov888 Год назад
Obviously we would want to see it for the cyber truck 😜 if it ever comes out
@santanat.7206
@santanat.7206 Год назад
That unibody truck ? 😂
@davedavenport8673
@davedavenport8673 Год назад
@@santanat.7206 We will have to wait and see what the design changes do to the original spec of 14k towing capacity for the tri-motor. Guessing that goes down.
@jeffdroz5294
@jeffdroz5294 Год назад
This is wild. I started looking at how to convert an old HMV to electric just 3 days ago, and found your videos. I’ve got the Lightning and identical trailer and was imagining hauling the old beast exactly like you’ve done here. Thanks for all the good content! I’ll let you know how mine works out.
@chriso847
@chriso847 Год назад
Great job. Very informative without bias and BS. From everything I’ve heard the lightning is a great truck.
@wordreet
@wordreet Год назад
OMG! Love the reversing with trailer function!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@vincentfauconnier1460
@vincentfauconnier1460 Год назад
would be worth repeating the rivian to have a fair comparison
@angeltysonswe
@angeltysonswe Год назад
You know, the Nissan Leaf shows the temperature of the batteries.
@JosephBeltran48
@JosephBeltran48 Год назад
Great video love it from start
@Jon-kg6hm
@Jon-kg6hm Год назад
The backup assist is badass!
@moosenuckle88
@moosenuckle88 Год назад
Time to haul the Electric Hummer with an Electric Hummer 🤔
@antiLGTBQ
@antiLGTBQ Год назад
"its not sponsored, but its completely sponsored"
@cactustweeter2890
@cactustweeter2890 Год назад
Great video. Yes do the cyber truck if and when it comes out.
@GetGoodGaming69
@GetGoodGaming69 Год назад
Very impressed by what Ford has built i need that truck
@TheRealLink
@TheRealLink Год назад
For some reason I thought the Lightning might do worse but still pretty neat. Please tell me you'll repeat a test like this once the Cybertruck comes out since that's really hyping up the towing capability!
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 Год назад
Cool hitch (although I guess it should be for several hundred $)! That backup feature is super slick too!
@Crazyreseller
@Crazyreseller Год назад
Definitely test the CT…and it will come out, eventually, hopefully, fingers crossed, 🙏🏻.
@USUG0
@USUG0 Год назад
indeed, as it always comes down to aerodynamic drag, the larger frontal area of the lighting as compared to the rivian, comes in handy when towing a brick like the hummer. Poking out slightly less.
@GraingerProductions
@GraingerProductions Год назад
I love your truck videos. Heck yeah to the cyber truck.
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 Год назад
I used to tow large loads with my diesel Duramax, over long distances, but an electric parts truck for in-town runs would have been great.
@forrest225
@forrest225 Год назад
Yeah I could see an electric Nissan frontier / ford ranger equivalent being fantastic for parts store delivery trucks. They usually don’t haul much weight and typically just make a lot of short trips. Honestly I would love an electric car to daily, I drive 100 miles a day commuting for work. Hopefully when my civic dies electric cars will be a bit cheaper for something with some decent range. It’s an 18 with 100k so hopefully it has quite a bit of life left 🤞
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 Год назад
@@forrest225 I live on a 5 mile long island now, and ride a nice, 850cc motorcycle. I wish I had a zero fxs electric, but big shock, they hold their value too well for a used one to be affordable.
@Emolokz
@Emolokz Год назад
You should definitely re-test the Rivian in similar weather conditions! And the Hummer too, for giggles.
@scottgridley477
@scottgridley477 Год назад
I happened to be eating lunch with my wife the day this was filmed and happened to see you from about 100 yards away. I didn't even realize you were in a Ford Lightning. Cool video.
@whiteknight1246
@whiteknight1246 Год назад
I would love to see if you can engineer a trailer with a regen braking system for the trailer wheels, and a full solar bank on the roof that feed the EVs batteries, and see if you can significantly improve the range while towing. Because the range to charge time is a barrier to switching over from a diesel.
@amphedroxyn4251
@amphedroxyn4251 Год назад
If the wheels are charging they're dragging..
@DinDooIt
@DinDooIt Год назад
@@amphedroxyn4251 I see a lot of people not getting that point.
@davedavenport8673
@davedavenport8673 Год назад
@@amphedroxyn4251 I believe he means regen when using a trailer brake. Trailer brake probably not used enough to justify the weight of the motor, controller and batteries though and then max load is lower with those items added to the weight of the trailer.
@eagle25311
@eagle25311 Год назад
There's a reason electric vehicles don't have solar panels on the roof from the factory.
@whiteknight1246
@whiteknight1246 Год назад
@@eagle25311 i get that but the roof of my trailer is 28 feet long x 10 ish feet wide.the roof of the rivian is 6 feet long, and i understand that regen always isnt a thing, but i assume the e trucks have a brake controller stopping the wheels on the trailer which is energy lost to heat.
@Levi_Holiday
@Levi_Holiday Год назад
It would be cool if you could do it with the cybertruck. Can't wait. How many people looked at you while filming on the top of a hummer?😂
@kpl9439
@kpl9439 Год назад
If they ever going to make it.
@Levi_Holiday
@Levi_Holiday Год назад
@@kpl9439 they will, just wait.
@kpl9439
@kpl9439 Год назад
​@@Levi_Holiday waiting, that you most definitely will do.
@DaHaiZhu
@DaHaiZhu Год назад
Bend Test and Teardown!!!
@garysgarage.2841
@garysgarage.2841 Год назад
This is the most unbiased review of a none sponsored product I've ever seen.😂
@GREGHOLUB
@GREGHOLUB Год назад
156 miles of range … and I think these are running around $100,000 😂 that’s incredible what a bargain!
@robbobcat7286
@robbobcat7286 Год назад
love it!
@richardbrimage983
@richardbrimage983 Год назад
Think I’ll keep my F350 diesel for my 12000 lb fifth wheel.
@davidroman1654
@davidroman1654 Год назад
@@richardbrimage983 Just replaced my 2021 Chevy 3.0 (only because it was stolen) with a new 2023 Chevy Silverado 3.0. Last summer's trip was about 3,500 miles of towing a 32' 6,800lb trailer from west Texas to Colorado Springs, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico. Averaged 13+ mpg towing. Range is about 250 or better and 10 minutes to fill up. Thanks by NO thanks with the EV for towing. And highway driving mileage was around 26-28 so the range was 600+ miles and again 10 minutes to fill up the tank.
@allaboutroofing2
@allaboutroofing2 Год назад
​@@davidroman1654that's great milage for towing, especially in Colorado springs and all the elevation gains. I wasn't aware they had a 3.0L, do you have any comparison to how it performed vs a V8? I'm shocked you could tow that much with such small displacement!
@duradim1
@duradim1 Год назад
You have to be kidding.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 Год назад
Definitely need to retest the Rivian in the same weather, so it's an apples to apples comparison
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv Год назад
Also maybe the Rivian wasnt switching many electric motors off while already driving! With more electric motors only used for launching the vehicle they mostly use one or two while already at speed
@michaelmackey754
@michaelmackey754 Год назад
Great video…I’m waiting for a F-350 lightning
@MarcFutoran
@MarcFutoran Год назад
Good video. I've seen a few that didn't turn out as well.
@TrailTime.
@TrailTime. Год назад
Come on Jerry, you need to share the screen time with Zack! You’re always making him film!
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything Год назад
I see what you did there
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