Fr man. Had an uncle who got let out of prison and he said there was a p doe file who got practically tortured by the other prisoners until the guards had to take him to an isolated cell. I hate how the system protects these people
Here's a fun fact about this scene: it's actually a clever reference to Superman Lives. The giant robot spider you see is a nod to an infamous request made by one of the producers, who wanted Superman to battle a giant spider. Additionally, Toyman has a design that's reminiscent of Tim Burton's style. Interestingly, Tim Burton was originally supposed to direct that movie.
@@cosmicsanders4319 Yes it look a lit more ant like...but it have 4 pair of legs... ants like all insects have only 6 legs...so this robot was a spider robot. I assume this more friendly look that it look more lik an ant was a simply choise by toymaker to let it look lesser horrible.
Police report: Superman took the suspect known as Toy-man for interrogation, the suspect proceded to move erratically until somehow he got loose from Superman’s grip. Due to the fact that Superman was still in shock, he was unable to rescue the suspect, who landed on the Crown Victoria patrol car. That patrol car will be missed. Metropolis Police Department, City and State of New York will proceed to collect payment from “Toy-man” assets to recover the value of the bus, patrol car and to cover the funeral expenses and retribution to the victim’s parents. His body is will be used for medical research and the remains should be properly cremated and dump in the toilet.
Not just any alien. SUPERMAN. The embodiment of optimism and the better person. There’s a reason you don’t want supes killing people. Just ask the Elite.
To be fair, that fool was a known maniac that just got done murdering a child. Were I that superman, rather than dropping him I would have squashed him slowly, like one of those pressure machines that slowly add power to crush stuff, so that all criminals know wha'sup in metropolis.
@@maxburrill6192 I think people don't realize that humans are great at getting used to stuff. I mean we forget about pain and fear super easy even if it is horrible or completely terrifying. Kill a few villains in public this year and the next year people are talking about how hot superman's wife is and wonder if super shrex is any good.
@@markhunter3533 Thats not a good thing lol. Being used to bad things isn’t how people should be acting. Just look at how normalized schül shütings are now, and the sort of mental damage its had on kids and adults alike.
Yeah I gotta say He even says he only did what he to do because he cared As far as I know too he ONLY killed Toy-Man, he didn't kill any of the military that fought him
This one wasn’t tricked into killing his own family. When ppl critique injustice superman they neglect that key turning point or make it seem like no big deal cause its a comic…but realistically an event like that is enough to change anyone
@@alecjones4676 But as far as I remember Toy Man was really the only casualty though I could be wrong, but even then this clone actually did try his best to help around, he didn't go all dictator mode either
@@indumatipngtuber2790 Superman didn't understand the love that Toymen and his kitten had. All toyman wanted to be was happy with his underage groomed girl a day superman had to ruin their beautiful romance.
@@angelin4027 for a bit in the 90’s, they made Toy-Man a child killer, which was weird considering that up until that point, his whole thing was that he was a bank robber who’s whole thing was not hurting kids. Anyway, the version of the character we see here turned out to just be one of his robot duplicates malfunctioning. Currently, The real Toy-Man is a guy who’s main thing is that he’s a killer of killers, who again, doesn’t hurt kids.
They also could have casted differently as well. It just doesn’t sound right having the voice actor for Rath from Ben 10 playing as Toy-Man. Maybe a biker gang member or a rogue wrestler or somethin, but not this Toy-Man. The character just doesn’t match the voice at all in my opinion
@@fireandice9738Because he is lol. He voiced a lot of people, especially cartoon characters such as Schnitzel from Chowder, Dr. Drakken from Kim Possible, and Jake from Adventure Time
"Lemme tell ya somethin' Toyman! If Rath catches you or your puny toys near kids ever again, Rath will tear out your instentines and knit them into a sweater!!!"
He took multiple children hostage, threatend to throw them off a building, before that killed a young child and he has the audacity to say that he has rights? Luckily he´s out of continues.
I know he's a clone, but this Superman made the right call. Killing innocent people is bad enough, but the moment you harm a child, you no longer human
The moment you start dehumanizing anyone, you make the idea that someone can be less than human a possibility. Even if you start with child murderers, less virtuous people will make that hole in human rights bigger until it becomes your neighbor Jerry, who's done nothing wrong other than be a part of a group people in power don't like.
@Frank Reynolds superman and another superhero were having a similar conversation. He asked superman what about gun owners, then people who smoke around kids, what about running a red light? Then he said once you cross that line there is no coming back. Once you justify one murder. Then rest soon follow
I like how this Superman kills him without imposing some sort of tyranny onto everyone else, like the Injustice Superman. This one has a moral code that he follows and understands that there are certain things that you can't let people get away with. He saves who he can without becoming insane and trying to dominate the world. The moment a tragic event occurs, like a child dying at the hands of a villain, he doesn't hesitate to show the world that he won't allow crimes of that magnitude to go unpunished
For those who think Toyman deserved worse : He is falling to his death, he knows he is dying and can't do anything about it, he was terrified and the psychologycal torture must have lasted longer for him because of how the mind work.
@@Voldrim359 that's not how velocity works.Even if you fell from the tallest building,it'd only take about 20 seconds.Would that cause a lot of psychological damage?Sure.But that's still a mere 20 seconds,and that's not enough suffering for scum like that
Despite all of the people Superman has saved and all of his power, that only makes it sting even harder when someone happens to get hurt or killed and he wasn't there to save them.
Yeah the most unrealistic thing about Superhero shows, movies, games, comics and etc. is to throw the criminal in jail, or an asylum, and expecting them to learn their lesson about why their actions are bad.
that's kind of the point, no matter what there is some level of red tape keeping them from being killed. Gotham is in New Jersey, which means that Joker would likely have to be tried under their state laws. Currently New Jersey actually abolished the death penalty. Which means that Joker can only be tried for a maximum life sentence. Joker likely won't get away with pleading guilty by reason of insanity too many times. However, he can have Clinical insanity play a factor into his sentencing. The two prisons available in Gotham are Blackgate, and Arkham Asylum. Given how manipulative Joker is, putting him in blackgate is a bad idea because then he's legally allowed things such as visitation from loved ones, lawyers, etc., which can lead to him either starting a riot, or breaking out. However in the Asylum he's guaranteed no such things as protective measures, he instead has to corrupt some poor girl interning and becoming a rather famous harlequin.
Just reminding everyone that Superman doesn’t “like” killing. But he doesn’t have a code against it. How much it effects him varies greatly depending on the version and writer. Killing him after he was captured is still something supes would definitely not do but he’s killed monsters in the past. Look up the 1941 cartoon, he was blowing up ships and busting up nazis for a very long time.
There are a million different iterations of the character, sure. But the ideal Superman very much has a hard rule against killing. They've done a million stories like this, even ones where he goes against other versions of himself from alternate dimensions who do kill, and the TRUE Superman is against it every time.
Apparently it was a reference to an unmade superman movie. The producer infamously wanted superman fighting a giant robot spider, hence the robot Ant toyman uses and this version of Tolman was a tim burton style, who was supposed to direct that movie
The fact that the guy who voiced a child murderer and an evil transforming robot is more famous for voicing a stretchy magical yellow dog and a talking space tiger with anger issues.
@@SuperGreatSphinx no! Why give him free food and a place to sleep? Best just throw him in a hole and fill that hole up. Keep in mind that toy man is still alive while in the hole
@@SuperGreatSphinxsome people think this would be a fate worst than death but it’s not. There are people with life in imprison glad that they didn’t get the death sentence
@@SuperGreatSphinxif there was an actual chance he would stay captured maybe but guys like this stay in their prisons for maybe a year tops and then proceed to do the same sort of crimes over and over and over.
Somehow, I like how toy man looks like in this movie. He looks scary, a child molester, a child killer, and has a knack of building toys into weapons. Yes, Superman did what was wrong killing them, but I believe it was the right thing to do. In reality. Toyman is a monster.
Although toy man is a fictional character, I believe anybody who wants to do evil or criminal acts can rig up any toy like remote control car and that and use it for an explosive or something like that. I remember seeing him one of the dirty Harry movies in which this remote control car was running toward dirty Harry's car. Eventually, it would underneath the car in blowing up the car up but not killing dirty Harry
Clark is no Homelander. This ain't The Boys. We're deep in "grey areas" when it comes to superheroes fighting against supervillains. It stops being about quotables when an average person or more dies.
@@ameyskulkarni you guys dont get it superman doesn't kill unless it's necessary the only reason he killed zod because he had no choice if he let zod and decide to get in his way to save that family zod would jusy turn his head quickly and kill that family
@@maxdam4059 Yeah, but I don't think this should have been done in the very first movie. The first movie is supposed to establish Superman as what he is: a symbol of hope. Just look at captain america trilogy: the first one was black and white and really established him, then in his third movie (after CATFA, Avengers) they tested him
People tend to forget that superman isnt actually against killing, he just doesnt really like too but he has threatened joker and others in the past with it only really batman has a code.
Why does John DiMaggio voice evil and evil sounding people so well? Also, he voices people who are dicks too... Maybe his way of getting it out through art?
Even if this is Supes' clone the thing that's telling isn't just that he yeeted Toyman. He only did so AFTER he found out what he did. He was still on his moral code by preventing his death in the spider mech but the moment Toyman got out and....did just that. No mercy. It was like going through regret and divine anger in half a second.
@@SifGreyfang It was a joke you libtard. your acting like a edgy anime character no one likes. also by your logic that means people who protect us from killers like officers are worse than the murderers they shoot
I can see a lot of people are praising the clone for vigilante justice, and while I understand let’s be real, even if the clone hadn’t killed him, does anyone here really think Toyman would have survived prison. I mean even the most heinous criminals don’t go easy on kid killers and p3d0f1l3s. And where not just talking gangbangers and murderers, we are talking full on supervillains, so for Toyman, the best case scenario for him would have been getting shanked in the shower, who knows what someone like Atomic Skull would do to him.
Bruh this is DC. Jails are like revolving doors. Toyman would have been out in a week killing more people. Like yeah sure in our world he'd be killed on the spot, but in comics where jailbars are made of foam and paper-mache, killing toyman was the only way he's never gonna kill anyone else.
Considering he just broke out of prison to do this killing, yeah. it's why DC just isn't that good to me. Realistically, the heroes cause every death the villains are responsible for, because they just send them to jail only for them to break out and kill again and again and again.
@Eridian The whole supervillain getting prison instead of the DeAtH penalty is more of a problem with comic writers then the in universe reson. Like say the Joker, if he was in the real world he would be sentence to D e a t h but in the comics the reason he is still alive is because he is a popular villain.
@@iskanderwulfstein7731 Almost all of the DC heroes have at one point or another went on to monologue about how killing is always wrong and shit and how they can't kill etc etc. So yes, while it is because of the writers, that is boiling it down to the base foundations of it, and that's not what is being talked about here. If it was then literally every discussion about anything could just be boiled down to "because writers" and end any conversation. But in universe there is a lore reason as to why they don't kill, and the whole discussion is about how that is stupid.
I’ve never understood how these super villains have escaped death row for so long. You have the joker that has literally killed hundred of thousands of people and keeps getting sent to the same asylum that he easily escapes from and the DC universe justice system let’s him off. It’s just like Superman’s villains doing the same thing. Has always boggled my mind, and is why when a Superman that starts to kill people are all up in arms. I mean im cheering him in to wipe out all of these killers one one fail swoop and then call it a day.
My guess is that the writers don't want to end the story or kill off the most iconic villain. For example, The Joker is one of DC greatest supervillain and there are tons of alternate versions of him they're pretty much milking the whole thing with endless comic book stories. That's why I think there are a couple of well-known villains that will either stay alive or keep coming back for more stories to tell or something
@@tatsuostatic8567 Nah right I think most of us get that. It's more so that as these villians become more and more violent in the series it became less and less realistic to see society's not properly deal with them. I mean, imagine if we had some real life criminal who kept escaping and robbing and killing folks over and over... Although, with places like CA and NY just letting criminals out I guess it might happen...
We all know it's because the writers want to do more than one story with the character but in-universe there's also the fact that the government frequently prevents them from receiving the death sentence so that they can be used for experimentation or forced to do various tasks without having to get their hands dirty
Think a better punishment would’ve been to paralyze him from the neck down, so he couldn’t play with his toys for the rest of his life. Brief physical pain followed by long agonizing psychological torture.
Well done clone Superman, that wretch didn't deserve to live after what he did to that poor girl. I personally like superheroes who kill criminals, because there is always a cycle: the villain on duty causes chaos, the hero stops him, they take him to jail, asylum or whatever, the villain escapes, causes chaos again and the whole cycle is repeated. And here it reflects well with Toyman, he was causing chaos by attacking some children, Superman stops him, they arrest him, he escapes, kills a girl, they arrest him again and that would be repeated more times so clone Superman made the correct decision, those kind of people don't deserve to live. Seeing that there are criminals like him and worse, there must be tougher heroes like clone Superman. Seeing that there are criminals like toyman and worse there have to be tougher heroes like clone Superman Clone Superman did the right thing, change my mind
@@rapatacush3 turning Jim Gordon and the entire police force against him. Embolden misguided people like Damian Wayne and Jason Todd. Alienating close allies like Alfred and Barbara Gordon and dick Grayson. Having to resist the temptation to do the exact same thing to every villain.
Y'know, guys like batman drop criminals and catch them last second pretty regularly as an interrogation technique. I bet it would have a way bigger effect if every few weeks they had someone like martian manhunter shapeshift into a bank robber and stage his own death by another league member
Propably the better ending for toyman. I dont know how some supervillains feel about each other ,but im quite sure atleast some have a red line. Like slade, caine and deadshot. All of em are ruthless mercs ,but also fathers. Dont want to imagine what would have happened to toy man if deathstroke got into hands reach of him after this.
2:14 that is the anger of a gentle man Killing a child is one of the most heinous crimes ever and there should be no getting off easy, you kill a kid, your dead
@@nicktroisi6347NO ONE wants to see Superman angry. You tick him off and mess with the wrong close one. Well... You’d just end up with an Injustice situation on your hands.
@@jvanimation9520 Only because he is being a hypocrite about it, "We can't take the law into our own hands!" But that's exactly what he does every time he puts on his suit and spends the night beating up drug dealers and gangsters, instead of just reporting them to the police which as a civilian is what the law says he must do.
He deserved that and honeslty, Superman as a superhero was already working on the edge of the law and often beyond it so more than judicial system he was under moral code and killing such a scum like Toyman was morally right. With great power comes great responsibility. It doesn't mean avoiding hard choices, but to make hard choices. Each case is different. It's not like all the killing villains is a solution, but superheroes are as much competent judges as so called legal professionals, but the latter are more inept for corruption than the first.
This scene always makes me wish DC made a Superman who can still be a symbol of hope but is willing to kill villains that just can’t be redeemed either that or make a whole new Kryptonian character that wants to be an Anti Hero the closest I got to that was a version of Lois who became The Eradicator and Superman from Gods and Monsters
Is it bad that "Superman" killed someone? Sure. I think I'd prefer a super powered invincible alien not to be taking justice into his own hands regardless of the situation, if I shared the planet with him. But am I going to cry that he dropped a pedo-child murderer from the stratosphere? No. It's like if a drunk driving teenager accidentally runs down a serial killer or someone shooting their firearm indiscriminately puts a bullet through a guy in the process of abusing his wife. Yes, we have to address the bad behavior, but luckily nothing of real value was lost.
