Agreed the last drag race was just utter pointless a BMW 340d vs a Tesla Vs a Modified 3 series Diesel ehh? Think the next drag race will be a 1.2 Vauxhall Corsa Vs a Bugatti Chiron VS That Peddle Powered Porsche from Top gear.
Nice putting TV Screens into cars who needs to watch the road? Set your temperature while driving while taking your hands off the steering wheel & looking down
You can get a fully loaded Dodge Caravan here in North America for the equivalent price of about 16,000 GBP ($27,000 CAD). All the options, and a punchy 3.6L V6, with plenty of room inside. It boggles my mind to see EU vehicle prices. They really want to price regular folks out of being able to afford a car over there.
True - my 2017 C-HR with top trim C-HIC, and 1.2T AWD was 29.000€! And still is the best band for the buck then and now - you get a full AWD car used for unter 20.000€ now.
@@KarrasBastomi Most of the Japanese designs look better on the internet then on the street, and they stale real quick. It tend to be more the other way with German brands.
@@JustinCaseIamStupidLuxury features? Really struggling to see where you are getting that from? Also most luxury cars are designed so you can actually get in and out of them without hurting yourself in the process.
I recently got my hands on the 1.8L self-charging version of this exact car, and overall, it's been a very positive experience, earning a solid 9 out of 10 rating from me. It's incredibly comfortable to drive, and after a month of use, I've been pleasantly surprised to average around 60 miles per gallon (UK). However, there are a few quirks that I've noticed along the way. For starters, syncing trip data to the app requires a bit of a workaround - you have to be in park and click the privacy screen three times, otherwise, the data gets lost. Plus, the wipers on this car are quite noisy, and the rear screen tends to fog up easily, which can be frustrating, especially considering there's no rear wiper. Visibility out of the rear is also a bit limited, and the reversing camera's resolution leaves something to be desired. Another minor annoyance is the constant beeping - whether it's for going just a mile over the speed limit or changing speed zones, the alerts can get a bit excessive. The sound quality from the speakers (in the design spec), particularly in the radio, is not up to par with the rest of the car's tech. Plus, adjusting settings to disable these alerts can be a hassle, and they reset every time the car is turned off. I've also encountered a few issues with the doors opening slowly in hands-free mode, especially compared to my previous car, and sometimes it's just quicker to use the key. And while the car can comfortably fit three teenagers in the back, it does feel a bit sluggish, especially on uphill climbs. On the positive side, the rough material on the seats is actually quite practical, especially if you have kids. Overall, it's a great-looking car with some fantastic tech features, but there are definitely some areas that could use improvement.
That's a useful critique. The lack of rear wiper is a concern in some conditions (drizzle, mucky road/rock salt etc...). Warnings resetting at power off could be annoying. I looked at the Design (UK) model yesterday, the boot floor shelf was not the same as shown in this video. The shelf was higher up (creating a low loading lip)...which made the boot capacity look quite small (less than the Yaris Cross). The sales assistant disliked that aspect, and could not see a way to lower the shelf due to the shape of the side trim (the shelf can be lowered on the Yaris Cross).
The reason I consider to have a lever for changing gears rather than button is that with buttons you have to take your eyes from the road, while with a gear lever not, especially I prefer the lever that changes the position (old school).
@@Dranzell you still need to change from D to R when parkong, turning...and are cases when you have to be quick, in those cases having a lever is more practical (for me at least)...also there are cases when you want to change manually the gears.
I don't get this at all. The button shifters only apply to automatics, so you're not needing to constantly change gears. Also, when you are, typically you're not in motion, so why exactly would you need to look at the road? From Park to Reverse, your foot is on the brake. From Reverse to Drive, I sure hope you're stopped before you switch directions. I don't get it.🤷
@@MysticDragonForce nah, you're just making arbitrary rules at this point. A shift from R to D doesn't need to be smooth or have your eyes on the road because you *shouldn't be moving anyways* if you're sending the car's power in completely opposite directions. I've yet to know of anyone who slams the car into drive while reversing at 2 MPH. And you will eventually learn where the buttons are with muscle memory anyways.
Totally agree, the 2 litre is better throttle response, you loo's 4 miles difference but in town or just intraffic it's brilliant! Would be alot better with awd .
My gf has a 2018 and it’s honestly one of my favorite cars I’ve ever driven. Little lacking in power buts it’s comfy, great on gas and VERY good in the snow.
Good in the snow? I had one living in Massachusetts. Its not awd. Its clearance is less than a camry. yeah it did ok ay best, but its nothing compared to like a Rav4.
@@ryanclune3883 With 5 inches of ground clearance it was more like a plow than anything else. Maybe if you live somewhere that 5 inches of snow is a rarity then fine. Where i live thats a dusting..lol.
Having leased both, I liked the CHR more. It had more positive steering, more bolstered seats, more suspension travel and compliance. It was much easier to get in and out of, as it was raised obviously, but mainly bcoz the door covered the sidesill. It also had more trunk space and room for rear passenger than the hatchback Corolla. I thought the CHR would be shite to drive, but the suspension is actually better for spirited driving imo. It actually rotates a bit and because of long suspension travel it has this nice flow.
They should have increased the wheelbase on this by 2 inches to improve rear seat space… they need to do the same with the next gen RAV4 so the two don’t overlap. The Corolla Cross could have also done with being based on the sedan wheelbase not the hatch
@@ebridgewater As a VW driver you have just made my day. Audi is VAGs premium brand, VW are competing against Ford and Toyota so they are all similarly priced.
Thing is, a cvt pretending to shift gears totally defeats the point. The point is being in the best rev range for power or economics, depending on what you want at all times.
Had the previous generation top spec heated steering wheel the lot. The 2.0l had plenty of power but if I was to get one a again the plugin sounds ideal enough to do short journeys on electric only and the engine for pain free long journeys like my 330e
I saw it on the road, checked out the price and omg...absolutely absurd. The GR sport trim is more expensive than GR86 or bigger and sportier cars from other brands.
When you were road testing for cornering and acceleration, did you change to sport mode? You didn't even mention mode shifting in your review? Or does the new version not have it? My 2020 CHR drives quite differently between eco/normal/sport modes.
I recently rented a C-HR while on vacation in Croatia and absolutely loved it. I believe it was a 2023 and thought the car drove smoothly and had some nice kick on the motorway especially when you got up to speed, the only drawback I would say was that it did get kind of loud as you were trying to get up to speed and working the engine a bit harder but that's nitpicking on my part.
Hi Mat, great review as usual. I love this CHR but I feel Toyota should have only made the 2L hybrid and 2L PHEV. Also, the high price of this new car is a deal breaker for me. I am now looking at a used Rav4 PHEV for a similar price, that, has more to offer like - more HP, and boot space.
Why does it bother you that it has a 1.8l 140hp option? For example I think that when you have two very efficient hybrid options the phev it's pointless and probably you will be better with an EV and also you will need 100.000miles to start saving money on fuel going just electric.
@@DK07x Although, I haven't driven the new CHR but my experience with this outgoing CHR was that, the 1.8L was a bit slower than the 2L HEV. I heard that Toyota does not have any plans for bringing the new Prius in the UK. This upgraded CHR is meant to replace the old CHR and also the Prius 1.8L HEV/PHEV. Carwow has reviewed the new Prius with 2L in the US and I noticed the Prius HEV has 194Hp/196HP as FWD/AWD and the new Prius PHEV is 223Hp. So why can't they do this new CHR just like the new Prius in the UK?
@@andreiarama8745 It bothers me because the outgoing CHR 1.8L is much slower than its 2L alternative. Carwow did review the current CHR 2L in 2020. The 2L CHR has a bigger battery and it is a bit more efficient than the 1.8L. I am sure I won't be better off with an EV. I would always choose a PHEV over an EV because, the cost of ownership (insurance, Depreciation, out-of-warranty battery replacement, unscheduled maintenance & repairs) of a PHEV is lower than a comparable EV.
@@dayoadeosun1520 The new Prius will come to the UK, but exclusively as a PHEV 2.0. The CHR features that same engine. The previous gen CHR 1.8 was well underpowered, but still most people chose that over the 2.0. The new 1.8 is sweet, the power is just about right for this car - the 2.0 is still nicer and much better on acceleration, but it’s debatable whether it’s worth paying the extra money for it. Another really good thing they did with the new 2.0l C-HR is that you don’t really lose any boot space by going with it, whereas you did lose space in previous gen.
Hey Matt at the end after you say if you should buy/shortlist or avoid it, could you also mention the other options to consider. I feel that would be a great help.
Matt i love these reviews and good that you like the C-HR. Just to clarify the brake light monitor in the driver display is there so you know your brake lights in the back are on when the pro active drive assist or adaptive cruise control slows down the car without you using the brake pedal.
Very good point. Do you have this car...if so, how does it cope without a rear wiper? I expect it would be poor rear visibility in some conditions, light or heavy rain, sleet, mucky road surfaces (winter/rock salt on roads)?
@@zoid9969 The exact opposite actually. The UK is still in line with European fleet average regs on emissions which means a 4wd version would eat into that and since most people in the UK don't really need 4wd they just don't offer them. If you want a 4wd you aren't going to be able to get it in this small hybrid so you're going to have to go buy something which is most likely much more filthy instead because thats better for the polar bears apparently.
I do not think you are comparing apples with apples. We have a 2018 top spec C-HR with a couple of extras, cost £30k with a discount. Just ordered a top spec with the same extras £41k with a discount, but 2l engine with plug in instead of 1.8l, plus a lot more tech and it is 6 years later. If you compare it with a VW T-Rock equivalent spec without Hybrid facility about the same price and the difference in long term running costs between 3 year and 10 year warrantee works out at around £5k. It is not cheep, but all costs have gone through the roof, energy, food, cinema etc etc
I agree re picking the 2.0 litre + hybrid engine for CHR. I would not recommend the 1.8 litre engine, this car is too heavy for it. I own mechanicaly identical 2023 Hybrid Corolla Cross AWD with 2.0 litre + hybrid engine, it does 0-100kmh dash in ~8 seconds so about 1.5-2sec faster than the 1.8 litre hybrid. Interesting to note that 1.8 litre hybrid engine fuel economy is almost the same as 2.0 litre hybrid variant because the 2.0 does not need to work as hard as the weak 1.8 litre engine. I don't know why Toyota even bothers with 1.8 litre hybrid variant (which is already far from cheap).
I was really interested in this CHR but only issue is back seats. It's not comfortable at all and another thing is small windows made me feel sick like I was in a cave. So not for me.
@@loranger6447 They are not going up, they are skyrocketing. The Corolla I bought back in 2022. was 30% more expensive than the model from 2018. Now, it's 50% more expensive.
@@loranger6447 That is exactly what I'm talking about. And we are getting cheaper and cheaper materials and worse and worse build quality. Products went crazy downhill during and after pandemics.
Motorway driving in the rain and car spray everywhere from wet roads and you can't see out the rear window because there is NO rear wiper available on this car.....dangerous.....
it was interesting how some of camera lenses selected worked for the car, but distorted you face @mattwatson. Regarding the car, I like the style, just wish it was a little bigger. Oh, and good idea to have the airbrakes out to steady the car before the 0-60 run ;)
Even though MG4 is cheaper, for someone like me, that does at least 16k miles per annum, my 5-years and 10-years cost of ownership of CHR 2L hybrid would be less than MG4 Trophy.
@@dayoadeosun1520genuinely, how does that work out? If you can charge at home on an EV overnight tariff at 2p a mile, there's not a hybrid in the world that could match it for fuel cost. I did 20k miles in my first year with an Ioniq 5 - a vast vehicle compared to the CH-R - and it's cost me peanuts to fuel. Easily cheaper than Toyota's little hybrid fella, here.
@@timaustin2000: The cost of ownership includes: insurance, Depreciation, cost of wall box along with cost of fuel, annual service, unscheduled maintenance and repairs. All these matter than just looking at the cost of fuel alone. Hybrids may not get it, but some PHEVS can. If you are talking about cheap electricity tariff, like 7.5p/Kwh with octopus go, a phev could also tap into this. I have a prius Excel 2020 phev. I charge it at home and i have a £7/mth BP pulse subscription. It does abt 30 - 33 miles in summer and abt 26 - 28 miles in winter. It also includes highway driving. I drive abt 260 miles per week. I could restrict myself to the bp pulse subscription only per year or use this subscription and only fuel my car 4 times a year and still less than 2p/mile. We know that Toyota is more reliable than MG.
I thought car companies did research on what users want? If so then why, not this car though, do so many put the climate control etc into their screens and not as physical buttons and dials?
@@trickster9000me Yes. ten years ago you could buy a tablet like the one slapped on the dash of the Volvo EX30 for £100 in Tesco. Why waste money on additional switches 🙂
I’m so sad this isn’t coming to the US! I WANT IT! I have the 2019 CH-R and it’s perfect for me. The only thing I’d say the 2019 car needs is a sunroof. I’m glad to see the new CH-R has one, but I can’t get it. ☹️ Damn Corolla.
Interesting how this will stack up against the LBX which is in a similar price segment. I would consider the plugin version of the C-HR as I can charge off my solar panels at home. Looks like the boot volume when be similar to the LBX then. Decisions, decisions...
Love it in and out, so I ordered the exact same configuration as the one shown to replace our 7 years old 1st gen C-HR, which was flawless ! Good job again Toyota !
I may be in the minority for my region, but I really wish Toyota would have brought this second generation C-HR to the States! I agree that it looks great. I would have loved to have been able to own one here in the US. The original C-HR was not a good seller in the USA, but that was at least partially Toyota's fault. They only gave us one version with a weak 1.8L engine (no turbo) and a CVT. (It was slow.) Also, we never got the hybrid. And it was assembled in Mexico for cost savings, which no doubt contributed to it being the least reliable of the Toyota models sold in the US. If Toyota would have offered this in the States with typical Toyota reliability and either (a) excellent fuel economy and/or (b) a greater level of sportiness from the driving experience, (maybe even with a manual transmission!) it almost certainly would still be around here in the US. As Mat suggested, a GR version of this would be epic!
Hi Matt, following you and Rebecca from Spain since carbuyer. Both my favourite, you are thougrough and yet entertaining. I use your vídeos to show my students how communication and storytelling is properly done. Hats off! Sir Lancialot.
I love the exterior, it is the kind of car you go driving while space theme ambient playing in the background. No overly sporty design, just pure futureistic.
