Toyota CEO: This New Engine Will Destroy The Entire EV Industry! 

If they do this, the price of water will go to five bucks a gallon LOL. Problem so far has not been that it isn’t possible; It’s that you use far more energy to split water than you get back. Maybe Toyota’s found a breakthrough method of electrolysis but I doubt it.

Not only suppressed, but murdered the ones that developed it.

yes, thanks to Elon who pushed the EV race. These big guys had to cover their asses and bring out all the existing research capabilities

just need to condensate the exhaust steam to reuse always the same water in a lose loop like the gas in your refrigerator@@cdevidal

@@Eh2Solar That's how I planned to build a solar steam engine capturing the output, but for this kind of engine the devil is in the details. Make one and sell it, you can be the next billionaire :)

You got the point!

Yes, like the fundamental principle that energy can't be created.

Exactly

They went straight up conspiracy theory at 08:03 too

@@waqasahmed939 Its true though.

No one is going to buy a car that runs on ammonia. Ammonia is a very dangerous chemical, which is a gas when released. I don't think it was ever used as a chemical agent in war, but it would serve that purpose very well. You don't even need to breathe it, it will attach your skin and eyes. Very nasty. Even gasoline is much, much safer.

We can hydrogen peroxide instead of water but again h2oo2 is toxic

Yeah, this has thermodynamic violation written all over it. I like all the conspiracy theorizing at the end of the video. No mention was made of the source of electricity to split the water, or the size, mass, and cost of the electrolyzer. Honestly, this is the dumbest thing I've seen in a while.

@@incognitotorpedo42 Exactly what came to my mind

Just use a Tesla coil like he did to power a car over 100 Years ago.

And the giant power cord....

If you are aware of that, you probably have taken some Engineering, and have heard of Sadi Carnot and the laws of Thermo. If so you have already figured out that this is another scam, moving emissions from the car to the generating plant, losing energy at every step of the way. Unless the intent is to build Nuc plants to provide the energy, this does nothing. and if it is stalled awaiting a buildout of the H2 handling equipment all over the US/world, it is DOA. A first year engineering student could figure this out. Pro tip: invest when the subsidies start coming in. Take your money out when the subsidies stop. If Trump gets in don't even think of it.

HH+

Just thought. The energy needed to generate hydrogen is nothing compared to the amount of energy to truck, ship, and process the fuel or recharge batteries it takes. I don't see Toyota doing this because of safety liability and can destroy industry sectors (oil, shipping) and governments (Saudi Arabia, Venezuela....)

hydrogen generation would use much more energy than transporting oil. This is a scam of some sort.@@dageevil

At some time, we will have to switch over. And as for efficiency, gasoline energy extracted from the heat conversion into motion is just as inefficient. It's the source of fuel everyone is missing. The efficiency will always be less than 100%.

You mean how hydrogen is obtained from water? You didn't miss anything, it wasn't stated. From what I gathered it happens somewhere between the water tank and the engine. It would need to have battery power since electrolysis is a process in which DC is used to separate the elements (H and O2) from the water molecule. Then the hydrogen is sent into the combustion chamber where it is ignited to produce power.

Yeah... They didn't say if they needed to upgrade the alternator.

@@michaelsnader5028 Probably, as well as needing a much larger battery than a typical ICE vehicle. Not as big as an EV has but definitely bigger.

Go petrol or diesel much cleaner for the atmosphere and gobs more power. Hydrogen is a pathetic fuel to use for cars. @@jamesaron1967

They briefly mentioned hydrolysis to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen in water, but they completely ignored the fact that the electrical energy needed to do that is far more than burning the resulting hydrogen will yield. Hydrogen engines and hydrolysis of water to obtain hydrogen are both real, but being able to use hydrolysis in a vehicle is a pipe dream. It would take a 100hp fossil fuel generator to make the electricity needed to hydrolyze enough hydrogen to power a 25-30hp water engine.

Using the HHO model, then the battery is recharged from an alternator, the same as we currently have. Nothing harder here. Good repurpose of the internal combustion engine infrastructure.

@@Plasmo20 but how efficient is it? it still uses a lot of electricity

Efficiency is negative. The car sits like a lump. Bad science.

There was no mystery about his death. He had abdominal pains after eating a meal with 'business interests' and said, as he was dying, "They poisoned me!".

I thought of him immediately 😢

And he was just one of the most recent.

He had the idea before time

As an aside, Dr. Steven Greer MD acquired the equipment from the Meyer estate and said that Stanley had very cleverly left out some of the components, even from the plans, that made his device work hyper efficiently. He died with his secret apparently. This is what happens when you think you can commercialise it. It is revolutionary and iconoclastic, don't expect to get out alive, let alone commercialise it.

Haha, I caught that too. I think he meant “distilled” I liked how later in the video he said if you know basic chemistry you can distill your own water. 😆 that’s so basic I didn’t even realize it was considered “chemistry” I really do hope this engine takes off, I’ve been wanting to build an HHO engine for years, but the risk of doing it wrong or getting in a wreck scares the hell out of me 😂 Haha, cheers man

Begins with certainty… EVs are about to become a thing of the past, courtesy of this new water fueled engine… Well maybe… Actually probably not right now… maybe never. Never mind. The end.

Beats me, we only have dehydrated water around here

Saltpeter and baking soda.

Diluted ? With water? Sounds too good to be true! The engine would be the size of a house? Let’s throw water on the fire. Lots of conspiracy theories around

Koh mixture simple 🙂

Anti freeze

@@vader94 Mix water with 20-30% Koh and it will not frreeze!! normally 10% summer this also helps with the electrical magic 🙂

Not too far from there. I wish I could have met the guy. I didn't know anything about him until a few years ago.

@@Jralls3 I still live right up the road!

Depends if you're a yank or not

Well since it's ran off hydrogen -400 degrees f....

0C 32F

Why? Wanna make an ice-car? 😂

Elon Musk will release an immersion heater upgrade for it.

Stan Myers 😢 ⚰️

So, we will go to ww3 and the innovation goes away?

Educate yourself before saying something,read about Yull Brown

google Stanley Meyer and water powered engine. It was covered in many magazines such as Scientific American an Popular mechanics. It really existed and yes, he did suddenly die. Petroleum corporations crushed those inventors. not a conspiracy theory. It was going to transform the gas engine industry.

its not free energy you can use electrolysis with a battery which will recharge back in running

I view hydrogen as a way to store energy. Which wee need, for solar and wind power. It can be stored just as efficient as lithium batteries too.

@@mpb9671 OMG, seriously? Meyer is still referenced? I remember first getting spammed by Meyer water engine info almost 15 years ago. It is 100% a conspiracy theory because he was never able to demonstrate, nor communicate how he was able to generate enough HHO to run an engine while using the engine to create the electricity he was using to crack the water and generate the HHO. He wasn't sued by the gas engine or petroleum industry, he was sued by two of the investors that he sold sales right guarantees to. He had agreed to have an electrical engineering professor inspect his vehicle and fuel cell but then made up excuses as to why it couldn't be inspected when the time came. His car was ultimately examined by experts via Court order and determined that he was simply using conventional electrolysis to create HHO, and there was no way his setup could generate enough HHO to even drive the car, let alone also create enough energy to split more HHO. If you think Meyer had it figured out, go build his fuel cell. All of his patents have since expired and are now in the public domain. Why hasn't someone else successfully used his design? Since gas engines are on their way out anyway, why wouldn't Ford or Toyota use Meyer's designs (freely) to create vehicles that had all the benefits of EV's but did not require the complicated EV charging network or extremely expensive Lithium batteries? It's because Meyer was a fraud...

You are 100% correct.@@racerex340

Sleep at home perhaps😂

Stan Meyers already solved that problem - used an electrical process to keep the water from freezing.

Ya it’s called antifreeze, can also have small heaters that will run a a D battery to keep the tank above 32 degrees

Yg diperlukan adalah reaktor nuklir portabel, untuk memanaskan air😂😂😂. Apabila masih membeku, perlu kayu bakar untuk membuat api unggun dibawah tangki air plastiknya😂😂😂

@@tuesdayderelictsandfriends8135 Which you can power by "burning" the water!

Yep, they kind of glossed over that bit. There are no free rides in physics, so my guess is that they plan to have electric eels living that tank of water, lol.

​@@dimitriosfotopoulos3689electric eels? Well, that could work. Lemme back to my lab and run a test. Start Countin your money from royalties, my friend.

u could get power thir the water pump like in hydro electric dam just scaled way down in size it might need battery to start the process but I think it can be done jmo

Thermodynamics cannot be avoided. No free lunch

​@@mattjohnson4944So you think you just invented the world's first perpetual motion machine? Breaking all laws of physics, creating more energy than the energy put in, eh? Funny how internet is full of scams based on people believing in this impossibility.

🤓 only if a combustion engine would be as efficient as an electric 😂

its sarcasm?

It's a pity the same can't be said about their announcements.

Bz4x

I think Toyata may have started in 2024 !

Remember the L200 fan bloody tastic

As what I heard in the video, the electricity comes from the engine itself when it runs and charges the battery (so yes, a battery is still needed in there like an ordinary car does, and yes, Lithium mining companies will still operate). The challege for water-fueled systems is: can water produce enough electricity to operate its electrolysis? If water can really produce enough energy to sustain its own electrolysis, this will have a HUGE, MASSIVE, TREMENDOUS implication to humanity because it can be used to create a perpetual motion machine. Because what do you get after you combust the hydrogen? You get water again, which you can then split and explode over and over endlessly.

Bro this is embarrassing as fck that people don't understand that basic laws of physics contradict any of this in the video xD

The air powered car is not feasible because it takes more time to refuel the air tanks than recharging EVs. The air compressors that fuel air engines use electricity so it takes more electricity to fuel the air tanks.

air powered cars are all over Mexico city.. when I was there last most of the Taxis were air powered..

This is complete garbage...

Erreur ce moteur a trouvé sa voie chez le constructeur indien TATA

Or probably greedy patrolium companies fought against it.

I will tell all my friends

"He didn't want to tell details how it works", That's because it's bull.

its actually not :/ @@fractuss

ALready at that time it was a scam. Nothing more to say other than: anyone with some basic knowledge of physics and chemistry knows that this does not work. Only people lacking this knowledge believe in rainbow farting unicorns like cars running on water.

YOur friend saw it with his own eyes? What exactly did he see? I do not say he is lying, but sometime we want to believe things.

By Magic or Voodoo, powerd by the ether or nowadays quantum fluctations ;-)

Electrolysis!

Oil probably.

@@sheshotjfk8375 Yes I know that, but electrolysis requires electricity... Exactly how are they generating that electricity? Typically using the electricity to power the vehicle directly is more efficient than first using it to separating the hydrogen from the oxygen. There have been many claims of increasing the efficiency of electrolysis with the introduction of radio or sound frequencies. But most of these claims have never been verified.

If engineers create a way to pick up the water ejected from the car, probably every water bottle company will go bankrupt 😂

😂😂😂

Lol I’m not buying either… now that the Arabs are selling oil at a high price and refuse To lower it a lot of these different engines have been coming

Ev industry will destroy itself,its a shit stop gap

It will batteries are dumb.

@@AskHack It cost $$$$ to replace eV capacity. Today there is plenty of eV capacity and shortage of $. Legacy Auto like Toyota have the biggest debt piles in the world. They are not going to be able to build capacity for any eV killers. No money, no honey.

Hydrogen cools down at -230° which is not even available in antarctic so chill out

My same thoughts. This article said nothing about cold weather operation. The engine requires pure water, so no type of antifreeze can be allowed. It gets much colder the further north one goes.

Adding Antifreeze or Glycol or Alcohol would lower the freezing point, but I'm not sure how it could impact engine performance.

It doesn't seem to matter what technology comes up with, Japan has had so many engineers improving so many products from cars to cameras to engines and the better options to make them perform better for less. Reliable products begin in Germany, Sweden and surpassed in Japan. Smaller, lighter, higher performance with lower costs which brings me to wonder how China intends to compete if they begin with lower costs and end with cheaper products ? Sony is one of the exceptions with fewer products to compete with LG, Samsung although Huawei has a few leading products worth considering.

therefore you are commanded to perform harakiri

Damn straight. They might single handedly save the superior driving experience and acoustic pleasures of internal combustion engines, AND beat the four wheeled kitchen appliances otherwise known as EV's at their own environmental delusion. BMW deserves a worthy mention too, though.... In the late 1980's - early '90's, BMW had a fleet of E32 7 Series Sedans built to run on Petrol OR Hydrogen, which could be alternated at will by a switch on the dashboard. Similar to the "Dual Fuel" vehicles of the past that could be driven on Petrol or LPG, many of which are still in service. The Hydrogen 7 Series were sent around the world as concept demonstrators, driven by industry experts, journalists, and anyone interested, performing faultlessly at all times. There were industry rumours at that time that Hydrogen would soon begin displacing Petrol as preferred fuel for internal combustion engines, which BMW was enthusiastic about embracing & encouraging, so decided they would be one of the first to present fully functional vehicles as proof of concept. Unfortunately, they were too ahead of their time, as the anticipated shift to Hydrogen never came. In the end, the petroleum industry didn't want their cash cow disturbed, so killed Hydrogen off by declining to invest in the infrastructure it needed through their service stations. And at that time, pressurised Hydrogen still needed to be stored in specialised & expensive cryogenic tanks, both in the vehicle and at filling stations, in addition to requiring special hoses & fittings to transfer the Hydrogen during refuelling. All of which presented costly barriers that were even more expensive then, when the technology was still in it's infancy. Now, such tanks would be cheaper, and they definitely didn't have the potential to "run on water" stored in a simple tank, converted to Hydrogen on-board by the vehicle as it's transferred to the engine. Which is bloody genius. Kudos to Toyota for staying committed to and investing heavily in keeping Internal Combustion Engine technology viable for the future, when almost everyone else has taken the easy way out, and sold their soul to the EV Devil. Toyota's CEO personally loathes EV's, and is a major fan of REAL men's engines, not glorified food processors with the acoustic appeal of a Dentist's Drill, so is a man after my own heart. Toyota already has the Hydrogen fuelled Yaris and a cracking, stonking V8 of about 5 litres in production and for sale in more enlightened markets. Toyota is definitely leading the way down this road, now. And I bow to them in gracious gratitude. BMW were them, 33 years ago, with a commendably good product, but were cheated by that era, which wasn't as ready to accept Hydrogen as the world is, today. However, that still deserves to be acknowledged. Perhaps BMW's prior experience has made them wary about leaping into and investing heavily in Hydrogen again prematurely. I hope as they notice Toyota's enthusiasm & contemporary success with it, they re-engage, and use their past experience with Hydrogen fuelled vehicles to get a jump on the rest of the Europeans. They should really try to collaborate and share experience with Toyota in a partnership project to help each other evolve the technology and share the development costs. They would make a formidable collaboration team, and get a MASSIVE jump on the rest of the market, many of whom have already bet the farm and their future on EV's, with some like Volvo having stopped building cars altogether. REAL ones, anyway. Now producing EV crap, exclusively. If Toyota & BMW can show REAL car enthusiasts they don't need to give up their soulful, internal combustion goodness, to "whirr" around in soulless, battery powered, limp-wristed, gimmicky nerd-mobiles built to please squares, the rest of the market would take years to change their whole production strategies & facilities that they spent so much time & effort transitioning evermore to EV production, back to internal combustion, and then catch up on Hydrogen fuelled internal combustion know-how, that Toyota & BMW will have long since perfected.

No-one is able to make this reality. Simply because it breaks the basic laws of physics. And people should know this, this is basic knowledge of physics.

@@johnscaramis2515 Lol, even though multiple inventors have already successfully created water powered cars and motorcycles around the world? Riiiiight

Purely speculating on this one but i imagine it would probably need something like a modified oil pan heater we use in extreme cold conditions, as for heating the vehicle cab, nothing needs to be modified from a traditional internal combustion engine, as they use a ' heater core' which is essentially just a miniature version of the radiator your engine uses, it just sits inside your dash board and blows heat when you provide power to the fan.

I don't actually know but maybe it could possibly be heating wire?

If you can figure out the resonance of the water molecules, the breaking of the bond will be a lot easier and doesn’t require that much energy to splits H and O.

@@alitatunertc1775 lol

You seperate water molicules by electrolocist. Any voltage will cause hydrogen to evaporate. The more voltage the better. People do this with a 12V car battery or 6V battery. Alternators recharge batteries. A water powered car can run about 800 miles on one liter of water. 6V is not a lot of power. Electric cars explode, and water powered is safer, and zero emissions also.

Extra power provider's 1)alternator 2)mild hybrid 3)solar panel 4)small wind turbine 5)heat in engine

@@sleepwalker29 "electrolysis". What he is saying is that the energy required to get hydrogen gas from water is greater than the energy recovered when the same amount of gas goes through combustion. This probably means that we will have to use water and electricity from a power supply. Needing to manage both the battery and the water supply.

The video skipped the part where they tell you, that a battery 3x larger than an ev battery is needed to power the electrolysis.

No that is originated in philippine inventor.

EV cars are not the future because they go flat faster a combustion engine car lasts way longer my car is 32 years old and i use it every day a ev car needs a lot of copper and cobalt for the battery this all needs to be mined and is very harmfull to the enviroment. A water fueld car only exhausts water vapor similar to boiling water. Oh and the battery (as any normal car has) is charged by the alternator.

never trust a guy that can't pronounce diluted properly

Use a Tesla coil.

​@@gatecrasher1970 And the reference to "diluted water" was the final straw! Like, um, how do you dilute water? By adding more water?

@@HartmutWSager Distilled I'm guessing, not diluted. Tap water would probably clog up the works.

And... this AI generated video is featuring the Toyota experimental Ammonia engine ( not the Hydrogen engine)

Definitely in the negatives.

If the engine could run on salt water then this wouldn't be an issue.

​@@darylc9332Salt water freezes at -1.9c⁰ instead of 0c⁰ So then that problem is solved.

50/50 with anti-freeze 😅

Easy solution would be a ceramic heat plug . Low energy solution that heats the water , but electrolysis itself heats the water slightly too so there is no freezing problem that can't be solved.

Good question but not a problem for many countries. Many countries many😅 varieties of cars can run

Wrong

​@@ankhenaten2you cant be this dumb

Sir Isaac Newton would like to have a word with you about entropy.

Why should it equal?

Catalysts can chemically speed up the reactions in electrolysis, so can reduce the amount of energy required substantially at the cathode/ anode for "x" volume of gas produced.

It is NEVER regarded as a fuel. Because it's not a fuel, and no engine ever ran on water. (No, steam engines runs on coal)

@@calysagora3615 Well water is comprised of 2 hydrogens and 1 oxygen; I'm no chemist but hydrogen is very flammable and oxygen could be used as some sort of oxidizer for the hydrogen.

lol

You build a fire to heat the water tank below your car😊 Lemme know if u want a step by step guide, comment below 🥴

Special additive can be added to water to avoid freezing

Jethro Bodine

Silly old myth.

News headline!!!: The US just made up a reason to go to war with Japan!!!! 😂

There are plenty of people around who will get rid of your catalytic converter for you. Just most people find it annoying when they return to their car and the coverter has been nicked.

I would say that it definitely would get rid of catalytic converters!

@@c2757,🤣😂😂

Exactly!!! This engine doesn't run ON water, it runs WITH water. The water is simply a medium. It runs on electricity. All of which begs the question, where does it come form?

From a giant battery. You could just use an electric motor, but this is faaaaar less efficient so you habe maybe the 10th of the range. Isn't that cool?

Perhaps it's powered by the imagination of somebody longing for either an energy utopia where Boltzman's 2nd law of thermodynamics has been repealed by wishful thinking, or perhaps a cash cow video that plays to common ignorance of physics.

Simple...add a water heater...

@@steven-nb6rtHow does a water heater help water storage in hot climates??

@@CurtisCT where do you live that that climates would reach near 100 degrees celcius???? Now the cold part, THAT is a valid point, especially since the guy mentioning the water heater disn't explain how that would be powered while my car is sitting for 16 hrs in a parking lot with no power access while I'm working.

@@brianbenoit6883Water doesn't have to reach 100 degrees to evaporate. In any country located in the tropics, water left in any tank evaporates within mere hours.

yes, that would the water in your radiator ...

"When will Toyota do what they actually say , Toyota is just talking, but no actions" == So do all other companies.

Toyota is a public corporation that needs to keep its stock price pumped up, so they're always going to make bullish announcements, just like Tesla and other companies do.

@ChickensAndGardening Toyota is talk and no action

@allgoo1990 lol, that's the best excuse you can come up with

@@lynkmartin Maybe, I guess we'll see in the next 3 years.

No, you need a toroid that exerts a quantum effect on the electrolysis process, which breaks the second law of thermodynamics - I can guarantee that Toyota hasn't reached out to the guys who are still alive in Michigan that bought Meyer's estate and tried replicating his work. Otherwise they would corner the market.

I have broken the second law of thermodynamics. Nature is an open system, this whole idea of closed systems is so 2000-and-late. My tiger kung-fu is better than theirs.

@NEWS-WisdomTheater3000-bx7ys You're only halfway there. The toroid exerts an effect on the subquantum kinetic level, whereby it accelerates the electrolysis process to a degree that ordinary (unassisted) electrolysis could not achieve, thereby increasing efficiency beyond what would ordinarily be possible. The best way to describe it in non-subquantum kinetic terms would be to think of it as electron-spin resonance on a much lower level process having nothing to do with imaging. The field generated by the toroid exerts an effect on the water travelling through the pipes inside the toroid, splitting the polyatomic structure of water into monatomic components, and more hydrogen is generated as a result of the effect the field exerts via a subquantum kinetic process, which changes what we would ordinarily expect with "molecular", "atomic" and "subatomic" processes. This is what I have been able to determine with my systems of understanding that I know, using Meyer's toroid, which I obtained the plans for and built and tested. I can guarantee you that if Toyota had that, the industry would be transformed in a major way. I believe that Meyer was killed because he had figured out something revolutionary about physics, and the proof is out there, obviously others know about it (including me), and several people have died over it, including Meyer. I will attempt to roughly translate Meyer's print on his water car, "Jesus Christ is Lord", to “With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Just think about winter

@NEWS-WisdomTheater3000-bx7ys e.g. "Splitting alcohols into H2 and corresponding aldehydes or ketones with high selectivity under mild conditions can be achieved by heterogeneous photocatalysis." No idea how you would implement this alongside an internal combustion engine however.

They didn't - hence Prius :)

No-one can build such a car, even Toyota is not able to break the basic laws of physics. And if you would ask one of the engineers at Toyota (or any other ICE producer), you should prepare for being ROFLed.

I was thinking the same thing although, you have to remember what happened to GM when they launched the first production EV car in the 90's. They confiscated ALL their customers' Evo cars, hauled them down to Arizona and crushed them all, even though they worked perfectly and all their customers loved them. Never underestimate the power and ruthlessness of big oil to defend their market monopoly. With all that said, I still believe that Toyota would have the best ability to force this technology into the mainstream and I hope they do.

How much do you pay for a litre of water from your kitchen tap? Bottled water is a Scam.

@@user-ml8dm9fz6l thanks mate. If it gets to be a major contender you will suddenly see major companies investing in ways of catching water like we never have before, due to profits to be made.

U have a serous water problem

You buy water? LOL!!! Beef farmer, NSW

@@mcdougal0 An even bigger scam is how much you pay for a teeny tiny can of Red bull. Target wants $2.39 for a single 8.4 oz can. That works out to $36.41 per gallon. Some gas stations want $2.99 for that same can, which comes to $45.56 a gallon. Now that is a scam...

Water is not that difficult to keep from freezing.

Im sure there will be some special stuff you can add into the water for winter blend.

What do you mean? He died or something?

that's as true as saying i know a guy, who knows a guy, who blah blah. the stupidity...

Yeah that's my point too true story. And the car he invented is disappear too.

the goverment killed him. I remember that story. They killed him due to if that would of got out to the world imagine how much that would of messed with the people who control the gas.

I heard a similar story to that

A second gas engine 😆

It's a scam in the way it's presented here. Anyway, the sequence electricity-> hydrogen -> combustion engine is very inefficient compared to electricity -> electric motor. So, if there is electricity onboard, drive an electric motor.

That is the 1 Million dollar question. And according to this clip, all it takes is a little bit of magik :)

Anhydride

You are talking about metal hydrides.

I see chemists are present

Platinum?

Thera are may possible ways to store hydrogen and they are all inefficient 😂. Also: producing hydrogen with electricity to then fuel your car is far less efficient then just using electricity in the first place

Given rising sea levels, why not distill sea water which would obviously desalinate it in the process of distillation. Or am I missing something that makes this too expensive or difficult?

@@MasterCedar the cost of distillation and/or reverse osmosis is quite high in energy. Claiming you will solve the issue that way, means you are also solving an energy issue at the same time if you plan on succeeding. That then leaves you with a brine (concentrated salts) problem, where if you just dump it back into sea, you are locally disturbing the ecosystem to a point it will probably not survive, or it's gonna be a costly 3rd issue to solve by dispersing it over a much larger area. I'm not an expert, just regurgitating from memory.

Thank you for your reply. I come from a small town on the west coast of Scotland, this town actually owes its name and indeed its very existence to the fact that it was extracting salt from the sea for hundreds of years, this involved natural evaporation of the water. The only difference is the condensation and collection of that water, if this can be done in Scotland with its climate, imagine what could be done in a warm climate. To my way of thinking it boils down (no pun intended) to location, location, location. As far as the byproduct goes, there is a ready made market for salt (otherwise it would not be mined), should there be an excess of salt, it could easily be dumped in the mines that are currently used to supply the salt or indeed any of the many thousands of mines no longer in use open cast or deep. As I understand it the extraction of hydrogen is or will be done in the actual vehicle, so the main problem is the distillation of the water, surely this cannot be more expensive than the drilling for, extraction of transporting of and refining of crude oil. Ps. Like you I am no expert so may be far off the mark with my way of thinking.@@PlanetJeroen

@@PlanetJeroen Already solved by Dean Kamen, the inventor of the Segway. It's called the slingshot. Makes pure distilled water incredibly fast, almost instantly, with very little energy input. You can look it up. Interestingly, it isn't allowed to be sold in any first world countries. Wonder why?

@@sheshotjfk8375 whats slingshot about it? Seems to be just a distilling machine. Probably banned cuz it seems to lack safety features that are required at the pressures mentioned. As it distills, it cant be fast nor ever hope to efficient and cost effective for application in desalination. (or anything)

No one has ever carried out such a conversion, it's just myth that has been claimed over and over again.

Yes, Stan Meyer did it a long time ago.

@@gnosphotos Stan Meyer was a fraudster. You'd know this if you'd checked. He's up there with Ron Wyatt who claimed to have a sample of the blood of Christ he make available for testing and then lost it. You people are so gullible.

@@gnosphotos No, he did not. He claimed that he did it. Everyone with basic knowledge in physics and chemistry knows that this was a scam. Only people lacking education believe in this rainbow farting unicorn. You need to split up water into H2 and O2 and the amount of energy is known. Also the efficiency is known, it's about 50%. So you are losing 50% energy already in that step. Already at that point people should recognize that this does not work. And then on top comes the efficiency of an ICE, top efficiency approx. 40%, mean value around 15-20%. So you are losing energy again. Or let's take another approach: let's assume that electrolysis would work with 100% efficiency. Recombining H2 with O2 cannot create more energy than you hacve to use to split it again. So even without losses, splitting and recombining is a circular process, without any spare energy. And moving a car forward definitely requires energy. If you still believe that this modification was real and worked as Meyer claimed, I wonder how you manage your life with this lack of basic logic.

@@gnosphotos And Denny Kline, Daniel Dingel, Arturo Estévez, a guy in Iran more recently, Bob Lazzar...

Nice

It's better than a kick in the teeth I guess.

What power in water? There is no power in water 😂. Ever tried burning water?

It would need to be a higher compression engine which would burn the majority of the fuel.

In the past there was a Japanese car manufacturer that had coated the piston cilinder head and cilinder walls with ceramic coating that made it 60% efficient and didn't need cooling.

No such thing as a "water powered" heat engine, they are all scams going back to the infamous scammer Stanley Meyers.

That's NOT how patent offices work or ever have. They only want DOCUMENTATION, not samples or demonstrations!

And bonus issue: Water freezes under 0°C / 32 °F. So how to keep it from freezing in the tank? Or is this technology just meant for the warm counties? :D

Right

Lack of knowledge can be more disastrous than zero knowledge

google Stanley Meyer and water powered engine. It was covered in many magazines such as Scientific American an Popular mechanics. It really existed and yes, he did suddenly die.

How much would filtration through a membrane even cost? Almost peanuts compared to crude conversion and so on.

Would you still love it when you find out you would need a battery 3x larger than an ev battery to power the electrolysis?

@@robertjw3325 :) we don't need batteries for electrolysis it can be done other ways too

@@airdevil21 really. Educate me. How are you creating hydrogen on board without electricity

@@robertjw3325 I did not mean without electricity but with resonance you can split the cells also and that would take much less electricity. And you could also amplify Stanly Meyer used a toroidal coil for that. The PJK Book is also an interesting read.

@@airdevil21 this method can at best under lab conditions yield 14% higher amounts of hydrogen per kwh at roughly 26% higher efficiency. This is way below the 300% more efficient an electric motor is in using the electricity directly. I'm all for alternatives. But until you can do this process with less energy than just using the energy directly from a battery. And yield the same range. It's pointless.

I was going to ask the same thing. Antifreeze might work.