I asked the dealer the same question. It’s a new car model and is still getting a foothold in the market. Even though it’s been a top seller in Japan, the car in the video is a 2023 model not much difference between the 23 in the 24 year models. They are out there but they are hard to get and they sell quickly. Where I live I’ve only seen three others in town I have the newest one. 2024 the car promotes itself aside from advertisements in videos that are on RU-vid. for me just driving it around town. I’ve had quite a few compliments and lots of looks. But as I mentioned being a new car model, they’re hard to get and they sell quickly. I have the XLe model and it does me just fine. 41 MPG . It does not break any speed records, but is definitely not a turtle.
I picked mine up a week ago and absolutely love it. I've wanted one for awhile but it was the 3.75% financing that got me to pick it up, and I got a 24 Limited for $42,500! I've been getting a lot of nice compliments and some "what car is that??" conversations. That said, I've seen someone else driving one about 3 times in the last few years. Hopefully more people like me were holding out for incentive rates.
@@chrissaylor7137 You got a great deal on your crown. I have a 2023 Crown Limited. I have seen quite a few here in Las Vegas in the last couple of months.
I just bought a Platinum. I love it but for a few minor annoyances. For the amount I paid for it in SoCal I would expect the hood to open up and stay up by itself. The trunk should have the newer feature of being able to open without having to physically lift it up. There are tons of other computerized features that are not the easiest to master and some customizations that the dealership has to perform if the owner wants those features. And what’s up with the colors this season!? It is nearly impossible to get any color where I am except the gray colors with black interior. The colors are meh anyway, but why can’t they offer the classic lighter gray interior? The black interior gets very hot.
you can usually get an aftermarket kit to convert th hood to stay open I've had to install several of these on my vehicles oover the years they don't cost much an work great
Crown has been a leader in Japan. I just test drove the Limited today with my husband. We were looking for a 4 door sedan, hybrid, leather, easy in easy out for our aging and tall family. My husband is 6’2” and fit. His first complaint was the drowning sound it makes when you accelerate- it also felt like it was dragging. He hated it 2 min in! (I should say he’s a Honda dealer ). I tried it, very comfortable! I like the display ease of use, felt like I was hugging the road. I also like the fast back look! Should have been a sports back, make the moon roof open. At the end of the test drive my husband thought the car was too tight regarding headroom and his leg comfort behind the wheel was a bit too tight. I really wanted this to work out. He was pushing for a test drive for weeks. I’m thinking the platinum might interest his driving experience but that price… I personally love the crown and prefer the 1 color. I trust Toyota and their hybrid models.
People are strait laced followers.Everyone buys an SUV---but not me. My Crown limited in supersonic red is a beauty to look at and drive. This is a car for people who live outside of the norm. Best ride I ever had in a car and if you know how to drive a hybrid you can get over 55 MPG in city driving.
Great car I just got a 2024 this Sunday 5/19/24 traded my 2022 Corolla hybrid. My dad got a 2023 crown two months ago. I like the rear trunk emblem on your demo how can I get one?
I drive an ES 350 2019 and saw my first Crown in the supermarket lot, and my reaction was “what is that, it looks so good!!! Had to go look and drive and was not disappointed! Quite for one, and not as quite as my V-6 ES but damn close. Sits higher and asking in and out so much easier. Built in Japan, reputation and track record is good. This is a value for sure, and with the 2025 the heated/vent seats are now standard. Did drive a Crown with the larger wheels and di not ride as well. Hard to even think about trading in my ES that has 28,000 miles and is all paid for, moreover this makes the move more compelling than ever. The Signia should also be a great option too! To trade or not to trade?? What say you Bryan???
Live in the Midwest. Love how it looks, have not driven it yet but no one is willing to deal off the over MSRP. Also lots have one or two (and they are the platinum edition). Would love for this (Limited version) to be my next car, but it is difficult to find and most are over $50k
Price is the main reason; I am currently looking for a hybrid and was excited about the Crown. Hopefully the price comes down or they offer incentives.
We had a 2007 Avalon Limited, which I loved. We test drove a 2023 Crown…no comparison. Loved our Avalon much better. The Crown was smaller inside, noisy and not the best ride. The only thing we liked it was 4 inches higher off the ground. We were so disappointing. We love Toyota vehicles…so we bought a new Lexus.
Did a test drive on one of this. It's more like a Camry+ than a Crown, size-wise same thing just a bit more bells and whistles. Crown XLE is less premium than Venza XLE , less features, no leather, less room, cheap armrest in the back etc. but the price is the same. I think that's the reason not many are interested in it.
I own this car and am getting ready to ask for a buy back. I have 3 lemon law attorneys to choose from and Toyota sent me paperwork to buy it back. I spent 59,000 and its been in the shop 4 months of the last 15 months they just replaced the head unit, struts are bad, windows make air noise window is squeaking, doesn't get the milage they said, brakes have acted weird, hybrid revs, interior plastic get filthy ( I do have a car washer for every week), had one of may side panel plastics melt, and yea... just overall a beautiful exterior and A JUNK CAR!
My issue is ground clearance. It would nearly theoretically clear the break over of my concrete drive. I demoed a limited and liked it. Why didn't Toyota give it 6"+ of ground clearance? If they f3l it is competition for SUV' s. Also making you take larger low profile tires, which ride rougher by nature. To get the features the package has for $3k is a deal breaker for some of us.
The hood of this vehicle has system that blows it up a foot or so in a pedestrian collision. Usually a body crumples the hood till it hits the engine and causes blunt force injuries. Not the crown
1-its trying to replace a large comfortable 6 cylinder sedan with a higher price 2-luxury price tag its not a luxury car 3-Design is shit 4-CVT hybrid!!!!! 5-under powered + over priced 6-we dont freaking know if its a sedan or a cross its just weird
Price and lack of marketing. The Crown with the smaller engine gets slightly less fuel economy than a 2021 Avalon, but has all wheel drive which the Avalon does not have. I love my 2021 Avalon Limited, but if it weren't available I probably would have gone with a Crown Limited with the smaller engine if it were more affordable. When you go up to the larger engine in the Crown the fuel economy drops so much it doesn't seem like it is a hybrid. A 27mpg hybrid doesn't make sense. I easily get 43mpg in my Avalon, which is better than what I was getting with my 2007 Prius and the Avalon has significantly more power than the Prius had. The Avalon was a somewhat affordable luxury car. The Crown is an overpriced car that isn't really a luxury car or a sports car, but tries to be both and may not appeal to the buyers of either. The Crown in this video is significantly less equipped, but higher priced than what I paid for my loaded Avalon Limited.
It's within a couple of inches of the new Camry. It's essentially a lifted Camry with a slightly nicer interior with a bit more sound deadening. IMO, it is not worth the extra money over a Camry.
It doesn't sell because no one asked for. The Platinum trim has 340 hp and 400 lb/ft of torque and does 0-60 in 6 seconds. The 2022 Avalon TRD has a NA V6 with 301 hp and 267 lb/ft of torque and does 0-60 in 6 seconds too. The TRD also is about $10,000 cheaper. C'mon Toyota!
would like parking sensors front and back on the Xle base... large car would help parking up to cars and curbs.... I did buy a CX50 mazda.... wish I drove this as well as the even larger plastic fenders bug me on the Mazda... 5k more for the base Toyota.... will prob test drive one this year
I definitely think this car is targeted for younger people… not the older conservative folks … because I think this car is 💣 looking into trading my cadi towards the end of the year 🤞🏼 so fingers crossed
As an Avalon owner, I can say it's a disappointment. The bad is hardly any trunk and a very bland exterior. I would spend the extra cash for a Lexus ES 350.
This is a very nice vehicle but it’s too pricey you can get the same features in a new 25 Camry for 7,000-10,000 less and this vehicle has a panoramic roof but it don’t slide back for whatever reason
Dear Toyota -- I would love to spend a lot of money on a beautiful car, whether badged Toyota or Lexus, but all of your premium models insist on the panoramic sunroof which I have a dozen reasons to avoid, and I don't want black leather. Everything is black leather interior. STOP! I live in a very hot humid area of the Gulf Coast and I don't want to burn my biscuits every time I get into my car in between April and October. Please give me the option to have a premium car with light colored ventilated seats and a normal sunroof/moonroof. Not everything has to emulate a Tesla. I don't want a Tesla. I don't want a glass roof. (Sorry to sound desperate at this point, but I've been car shopping for weeks and have been disappointed at every turn. I start to get excited and then find out everything is black leather and glass roof. Gah!)
CVT tranny groans terribly to 35mph even though it's E-CVT...I turned mine in at 3100 miles, Could'nt take the noisy acceleration. Got a Hyundai Tucson 6 speed hybrid, shifts are seamless and no groaning to gain speed. Love the car. Sorry Toyota...bring back Avalon!
Bryan, Let me start with some good news for you. Everything that is wrong with the Crown sedan will be RIGHT with the upcoming Crown Signia. 🥳🥳🥳. The Crown sedan is a classic example of a great car company having a bad day. Maybe the folks at Toyota HQ were afraid to say, 'the emperor has no clothes' when some upper ranking executive approved this bizarre Toyota tribute to the Honda Crosstour. Besides the wonderful Signia, Toyota also has a very sharp Crown Sport CUV and a very good looking Crown sedan over in Japan which would be much more appealing. Let's revisit the whole Crown conversation this time next year and see how things are going with the 👑. BTW I will be shocked if the Signia XLE will be anywhere near $50K. 😉
I'll come back to this comment in a few months and revisit that pricing estimate. The Venzas are going away which are already $45-$50k. The Crown Signia is AT LEAST going to be priced the same, if not more.
@@AskforBryanTo be fair, we cannot include mandatory 'options' piled on by avaricious regional distributors in the MSRP. I think Toyota needs to look at top spec Outbacks as a way to gauge pricing. Judging by very, very positive initial reviews, I expect a lot of excitement around the Signia launch and that will contrast directly with the 'confusing' Crown sedan. Finally, there is no Hybrid Max drivetrain or Platinum trim level offered with the Signia just XLE and Limited. That alone signals more realistic valuations. For the record, Subaru sold over 160,000 Outbacks in the US last year which proves there is a market for raised wagons from Japanese makes. Stay tuned....😉
I was very interested when I first heard about the Crown but I was hoping for a station wagon. Now that a wagon is coming in a few months I'm waiting for that. My concern is that the slow sales of the sedan may make Toyota rethink making the wagon available. My current vehicle - a 10 year old E350 wagon - is on it's last legs so the Signia can't come soon enough!
Very unique but expensive.. This vehicle needs to pay attention closely to the Camry hybrid. From driving 1980-83 Celica’s, 1986 Corolla & 1997 Avalon and for the last 20yrs a 2005 Toyota 4 runner, I’m looking for another practical Toyota. The Camry hybrid is seducing me. The rava prime as well. CVT is anoying, especially at these inflating price points. So I believe for now the camry hybrid would do the job. It’s just price like u said. I remember buying a 1980 tercel for $125.00 😢 i missed those days..
I test drove it and loved it but it was not was I was looking for. I was looking for a roomy sedan or wagon, not a taller sedan. Camry wagon would have been an easy buy, if only it existed... I was hoping for more room in the crown, and it sits too high.
I saw one for the first time yesterday. Honestly it’s ugly to me, much like the Lincoln, when viewed from the rear. Personally I’ll take the Camry any day over the Crown.
It's pretty much a very expensive Camry with the same drive train. Why pay thousands more for the same junk? At least you could still get good engine in a Lexus.
I sell Toyotas at Tufankjian Toyota of Braintree in Braintree, MA. I purchased a 2024 XLE in Oxygen White in early February, and our dealership has sold several of these. It really is a vehicle you have to show to the right customer. One issue we have is that we are not getting many XLE's or Limiteds, and some customers do not want everything that comes with the Platinum. AWD is standard on this vehicle, which may make it more popular where we can get the slippery white stuff, and TSS 3.0, with Proactive Driving Assist, which virtually makes it impossible to rear end the vehicle in front of you! The interior feels like a quality tweed cloth and personally I prefer cloth to leather, and the sides of the seats are bolstered and covered with Softex. Don't forget that the mileage #'s are phenomenal, because of the hybrid system.
I ❤ the crown sedan & want one. I want the platinum in the heavy metal solid color. I m waiting on 2 things.... lower interest rates & for Toyota to cut the price like tesla did😮. It's a waiting game !
I got my '24 Crown XLE a few months ago and have been loving it. Incredible milage for city driving - I get over 50mpg in gridlock conditions and 41 under normal circumstances. Feels very smooth and premium for a Toyota. And I personally love the exterior. I'm not sure why they're getting passed over either. In fact the dealer I got it from had adjusted it down to 37,500, which made it a no-brainer for me.
I think you hit the nail on the head in the video for reasons this car won’t sell 1. Lack of promotion 2. Price point 3. Lack of ability to stand out The Avalon made you feel like you were driving a Lexus. To me this crown is more modern than luxury. Why would I pay for this when I can get all the features and a similar power train in a loaded Camry
If you don’t want an SUV, like every other car on the road, but you still want comfort, all wheel drive, and 40 miles per gallon. The crown is a great option with virtually no competition in the marketplace
I'm on the fence between the Crown and a Camry. I like the Crown better, but as you stated, resale value is a concern when it comes time to trade it in.
It’s all about the price. I fell in love with it I. The showroom; looking at an LTD. As a retired corporate director, it suits my taste. But hard to get up off of $47 - $50K.
I like the look of the crown. I wish they did make this a hatchback. The signa looks nice but wish they offered the macadamia leather interior option. Also the price is a factor because you basically have to compare to Lexus. I definitely think there is a market for this car and suv ( and saw a cross sporty model) but need to market it more, and adjust price to fit between Camry but under Lexus as it is not one. Great video.
Test drove the Platinum a couple weeks ago in Japan. Its nice, smooth and good ride but seems basic for a Crown. Starting to think more along a Lexus 350XS now.
1) Too expensive 2) Too ugly. The price has to drop about 15-20K on these and that takes care of #1. Number 2, it has no identity. It wants to be 3-4 vehicles in one. So it does not fit anywhere and that makes it ugly. So honestly, Toyota needs to kill this Crown, update the Avalon and bring it back.
My husband and I were out yesterday to test drive a 2021/22 Lexus RX350. (We’re looking at these particularly for the V6 engine). I already own a 2015 Nissan Murano which I love but really wanted heated seats. I was never considering a sedan or passenger vehicle bc I prefer to sit up higher. My husband pointed out a vehicle someone was driving and asked what I thought. It was a Toyota Crown (couldn’t see the name but my car-savvy husband knows most vehicles) but I was smitten. He suggested that we go to a Toyota dealership and test drive. They only had the base model (forgot what it’s called) so we test drove that. I flipping LOVED it. From the moment you sit behind the wheel, the seat felt like warm hug. My husband’s seat was the same. The only drawback I could see when test driving was that you could hear the engine when you accelerated at a fast rate. The pick-up was quick, the steering very responsive, and this ride was so smooth and quiet feeling virtually no road bumps. (We test drove a new Venza last year and liked it until we drove on a bumpy highway, then it was loud inside the cabin and not impressive at all). This was nothing like that. We’ve been looking for the better part of a year for just the right vehicle and this is it. Ps. It turns out, my husband showed me a picture of the crown last year and I said, “Ew. No.” LOL! The photos of this gem do NOT do it justice. GREAT video, by the way, Brian, thank you so much!
I bought a 2023 Crown and I love it. I like the height, styling, and reliable hybrid system. I drive country roads averaging over 45mpg, you can't beat it for a full-size car.
OK Bryan, let me tell you a story… My wife wanted to look at SUVs so we went to a nearby Toyota dealer to look at the Grand Highlander for her. In the lot next to it was a Crown. I had no idea what I was looking at. The salesperson gave me the basics, and I was intrigued by its looks. I went home, researched it, and went back a few days later to test-drive it as a car for myself. They had a Limited and a Platinum ready for me. I brought a friend who was a real car guy. He’s been driving luxury brands for years, and he’s always up for car shopping. We took the Limited for a ride first. It stickered in the $49,000 range. My impression of the engine and drivetrain was that it was very buzzy. I hadn’t spent much time driving with a CVT transmission, and after a few minutes in the Limited, I determined it wasn’t for me at all. It did not feel anything like what I thought an almost $50,000 car would feel like. When we got back to the dealership, I was ready to leave. My friend suggested we go ahead and drive the Platinum because it was right there waiting for us. As soon as we started driving, I couldn’t believe how much better it felt than the Limited. That Hybrid Max system with the conventional 6-speed transmission and 340 hp turbo engine/electric motor system was wonderful. We drove the same route and I felt the difference between the $49k Limited and the $55k Platinum was like night and day. He felt the same way. Back at the dealership, we sat in the car and started to critique the interior. The best word we could find to describe it was that it was “fine.” Fit and finish was excellent, but it didn’t feel like a $55,000 car. Headliner, black. Dashboard, black. Seats, black. Just a thin line of contrasting bronze trim. There wasn’t a lot of padding on the dash and doors. The Camry XLE next to it had an as nice or better-looking interior. My friend felt that the Crown’s interior did not match the price point. I had to agree with him, but I still really liked it and wasn’t ready to give up. We were now inside the dealership looking at the model on the floor. I pressed the trunk release and heard a click, but the trunk didn’t go up. I was confused. When I went to the back, I realized that I had to manually lift the trunk lid. When I’m leaving Costco with a box full of stuff, I shouldn’t have to think about how I’m going to get an elbow under the trunk lid to pop it up. Next, I pulled on the hood release. The latch was easy to find and when I pushed up the hood, I was expecting it to stay up, but no. I had to look around for the metal stick to pull down from the hood and place it in the slot in the frame. Are you kidding me? Toyota’s quasi-luxury car that’s replacing the Avalon has a freaking hood prop? It's not a Corolla. But I still liked the car and even brought my wife back with me to drive both. She liked how the Platinum drove, but she said the inside looked like a “tomb" and thought $55,000 was a lot of money for that car. She wasn’t wrong, and the cheap feeling trunk and hood still bugged me. My buddy suggested I look at a one- or two-year-old “real” luxury car. Maybe something German or even a Lincoln or Genesis. I never buy used, but I opened my mind up to it. Four weeks later I bought a two-year-old Genesis GV80 with 16,000 miles. It still had 3 years and 44,000 miles left on the bumper-to-bumper warranty. The car is beautiful inside and out, has a huge list of features, and an incredible ride. Taking advantage of the fact that luxury cars depreciate quickly, I got it for under $47k which was more than $21k under its original sticker. I think Toyota blew it. I was so close to buying that Platinum, but for the money, it fell short. They made me reconsider my options. In my opinion, this is what Toyota should do. Start the XLE at $35k. With a cloth interior and that buzzy powertrain, that price feels about right. The Limited with its standard upgrades should start at $41k, and make the Platinum a plug-in hybrid and start it at $48k. Give us some kind of contrasting interior colors. And for god’s sake, spend a few extra yen on a gas spring for the hood and some kind of cheap, mechanical spring mechanism for the trunk. The value just isn’t there for the Crown. I really liked the car and want Toyota to be successful with it, but right now with the total lack of promotion and the previously mentioned shortcomings, it’s going to be tough. One more thing, that sexy, new 2025 Camry is going to directly compete with those Crown buyers. Maybe that's why a dealer just offered me an XLE for $2k under the invoice for my son. At that price, I'm thinking about it.
We are looking at a limited and they will do 44k for it. That seems reasonable but I still think the Avalon had a cooler-looking interior. I personally like the Crown's odd exterior- looks better in person than on screen. It makes more sense to get a 25 Camry than a crown. Spending about 4k less and getting very similar features (except maybe heated rear seats), more MPG, opening sunroof, etc. I would still rather have the Crown because it looks different- and that is the only reason.
I got a written quote on a limited crown for $42K plus tax through Costco buyer's program. I suspect dealers would go down to $40K on a limited plus 3.75% interest for 60 months
I believe the main reason I've never seen one of these on the streets is the price. Very expensive! A car that starts at more than 40 thousand dollars and doesn't even come with a leather seat? Minimal things that the competition offers for less. This is the real reason. This shit is very expensive!
They didn't advertise well enough, but the online presence had me intrigued.From day 1 I wanted, but when it came out it was hybrid only.. would love to see a TRD all gas version.
We bought a Crown Limited last month. It's our first Toyota and first hybrid. Love everything about it. Handling is fine, power is great and the gas milage is excellent. We traded a 2015 Mercedes E350 Wagon for it. We loved most of the attributes of the the Benz, but we never loved the seats and the technology was starting to show its age. We have put over 600 miles on the Crown so far, and have no complaints.
If I saw correctly, the sticker says 236 combined horse power. Not too different than Camry? There is another Crown model with turbo, that one has over 300 hp and stands out from other models.
Yes, I heard of it, researched it and actually was in the car. I sat in it. I hated the seat. It is a sport seat. On paper thought I would love it. I'm 60-65. A previous satisfied Toyota owner. If they changed the seat to a luxury seat, they would probably sell rapidly. Toyota missed the mark on this. Unless the target market was young sports minded.
I brought the xle trim level. Didn’t want the panoramic roof. It sits a little higher than the Camry making it much easier to enter and exit the vehicle. The main reason I bought the car is that it is manufactured in Japan. The Camry is not.
I test drove one of these and a Camry. I thought they were both great vehicles. At this point, I am leaning toward the Crown but am waiting to drive a Crown Signia.
In the market for a car, now. Test drove the Limited, yesterday, and I am impressed with the vehicle. But I've never seen an ad of any type in any media for it, and I live in the NY metro area, where ad placement was invented! The car has comfortable seating, especially for the driver; great acceleration, thanks to the electric motors; AWD,; it's quiet enough; very eyecatching; leather seats; but the trunk thing is weird---even the salesmen couldn't find how to open it. There is significant body roll, so it's not a sporty car, though it looks like stylistically, and it is a very comfortable ride, and you are elevated compared to other sedans out there, thanks to that semi-crossover design. I'm going to next test drive a Lexus ES, which is similarly priced, and I can get as a hybrid with similar range and gas mileage. But the Lexus has no AWD (only in the 250), and no split fold down seats in the the rear of it, either. Being in the Northeast, that AWD may tip me back toward the Crown. You can NOT find better gas mileage in a hybrid that what this Crown has to offer. Given that it also runs on regular gas, I think Toyota should be trumpeting the fuel efficiency, incredible range of nearly 600 miles, and the ease of driving and comfort of this car. If they were to just tweak a few things (like that trunk opening!), invest more in some targeted promotion, they could move the needle on getting this car out the door and into customer's hands. Also, I undestand they have a Crown Signia coming, which will be an actual crossover, and that might be more appealing in today's market. Good luck!
I looked at both the Crown and Camry, and when you look at the features list of a fully loaded Camry vs the base Crown, not only is the Crown more expensive but it's missing a lot of tech that's only in the top trim. I haven't driven a Crown so maybe it just rides that much better, but features-wise this thing is really overpriced I feel in comparison. I like features like the HUD and on the Crown it's only in the top trim even though the base model costs more than the optioned out XLE Camry that has it. Also subjective but I think the new teal on the 2025 Camry looks incredible as well as the redesign styling, I think it's just a better looking car (to me). I can honestly see why dealers are having to cut prices on these to even a bit under MSRP, I wouldn't buy one at sticker price either. At the price this thing is I could start looking at the Lexus ES 300h for example and I think a lot of people in that price range are going for Lexus instead. It feels like a car without a market for it IMO.
Fifty thousand plus dollars for a luxury car with 225 or 235 narrow tires!? Says a lot about the practicality of the car in a world of SUV’s sporting 245 wide and above tires for less. Kia’s for example. 🤷🏼
I just bought 2025 Crown Limited with packages in Brown age color. I must say.. It grabbing people attention. People stop and look back. It has smooth and luxurious ride.
I just discovered it about 2 weeks ago and went to see it, I will be trading my Lincoln mkz in for it......Toyota is not advertising it, I saw it on RU-vid by accident.
I like the look of the Crown much more than the Camry OR prior Avalon. Toyota engineers did a great job with styling. I also like the 4" higher stance as well and AWD. This is a car I definitely will consider. Besides not promoting this car, the cost is also an issue. And, at a $41K new price point, most people expect Leather Seats. The high end version can run over $55K, and makes it higher than the average buyer wants to pay. The Toyota Venza 2024 is a great SUV, which Americans love, and costs less to buy. When it is replaced with the SUV version of the Crown next year, I hope they keep the cost down.
I was looking at the crown but it is over $4500 just to get adequate speakers and they force you to get it with modifications like 21" wheels, I litterally don't want - no thanks Toyota. It would be like going to 5 guys and saying I want fries. Sure no problem $20 additional please. $20 for fries seems steep. OH but you get beets and Lutefisk with it! Umm can I just get the fries - NOPE!
Trying to decide to buy a new 2023 XLE for $35k, yes dealer still has 2023s on the lot or just keep my 2019 Avalon Hybrid which is still flawless. AWD and little higher seating is telling me yes, but seeing so many different opinions. Trade in value for Avalon exceeded my expectations.
Trying to decide to buy a new 2023 XLE for $35k, yes dealer still has 2023s on the lot or just keep my 2019 Avalon Hybrid which is still flawless. AWD and little higher seating is telling me yes, but seeing so many different opinions. Trade in value for Avalon exceeded my expectations..
The problem is people are stupid. You could make the perfect house for human inhabitation that’s carbon neutral sustainable self sufficient etc etc and people won’t live in it because it’s ugly. You could make the perfect car and people won’t buy it because it’s not cool. When dealing with dumb emotional creatures there’s no predicting nor explaining what works or not and why.
I own the Crown Platinum max in sonic red with black. Good car, drives Great, love how quick it can get to 100 whilst barely feeling it😈🤗 BUT for $56k it sucks!! Hood is oldschool manual asf and the center bar between headlights don’t light up! The roof doesn’t open and for the so-called PANORAMIC roof isn’t tinted at all! They rushed tf outta this Platnium and I want my money back. Can’t even see inside the trunk at night and it’s oldskool asf too, can ONLY be opened from keyfob or button inside the car. For a Hybrid it drinks gas like a mofo! Dual hinge center console is literally a small rectangle box with no lights. Face sensors acts up ALOT! There’s an unavoidable glare in both side mirrors and of Cruise control and lane assist sucks especially in high winds/rain. I was really wanting a hybrid Tundra but this current body style ain’t for me. I’ve been a Toyota fan since I first bout a Tundra in 2010 but these past few years yall been slacking!
I own the Crown Platinum max in sonic red with black. Good car, drives Great, love how quick it can get to 100 whilst barely feeling it😈🤗 BUT for $56k it sucks!! Hood is oldschool manual asf and the center bar between headlights don’t light up! The roof doesn’t open and for the so-called PANORAMIC roof doesn’t open at all! They rushed tf outta this Platnium and I want my money back. Can’t even see inside the trunk at night and it’s oldskool asf too, can ONLY be opened from keyfob or button inside the car. For a Hybrid it drinks gas like a mofo! Dual hinge center console is literally a small rectangle box with no lights. Face sensors acts up ALOT . Cruise control and lane assist sucks especially in high winds/rain. I was really wanting a hybrid Tundra but this current body style ain’t for me. I’ve been a Toyota fan since I first bout a Tundra in 2010 but these past few years yall been slacking!
The price as you mentioned. They should have just put the V6 Hybrid engine or plug-in engine in a Limited and the hybrid Maxx engine in the XLE for the price Toyota is asking. People can sense were Toyota went cheap and decided to cheat the people in terms of horsepower. In a 4300 lb car you need a V6 hybrid non-turbo. This goes the same with the Crown Insignia wagon. They need a V6 hybrid in that vehicle if you are asking for that kind of money at least make it an option. They should not have gotten rid of the Toyota Venza for the Crown as there was room for both. All this talk about taking sales away from Lexus Lexus needs to keep their hands off of Toyota products in upscaling them. Lexus is cannibalizing everything Toyota has.
It's seems to be overpriced and not enough space in the rear seating. I do like the style because I do not want a suv and did not want a car lower to the ground
I have owned Toyotas for over 20 years and never even heard of the Crown until I started researching the 2025 Camry. I just bought the 2024 Crown XLE last week because I got a great deal since they aren't selling. I absolutely love it! I think they aren't selling since no one knows they exist. Also, there is such a large price difference between the different trims, mentally you might feel like you are getting a bottom of the barrel car wuth the XLE when that is not actually the case. I just didn't see the value in paying extra for the Limited or Platinum features.
I bought a new 2023 Crown XLE in February 2024 after my wonderful 2014 Avalon Hybrid was totaled. I actually had never seen or heard of a Crown before I bought 1. I never even seen a Crown advertised before! The Crown is very stylish with a very comfortable ride. I only test drove an XLE. I didn’t want to pay for the more expensive models. My Hybrid Avalon had more horsepower than the XLE Crown but it has a good amount of power & it has a great tight ride. I’m happy with it, though it does not come with a CD PLAYER. I have so many CDs so now I usually only listen to SiriousXM Radio. It has a very roomy truck. All Crowns are AWD & are Hybrids. The XLE is great on gas. I would prefer leather seats but the cloth seats have grown on me. The Avalon gave me more for my money, but I’m now happy & satisfied with the Crown!
@@djplonghead5403 the 2014 Avalon hybrid had 200 horsepower, the 2023 Crown XLE has 184 horsepower. The Avalon had so much power, it was powerful in Eco mode. Don’t get me wrong both have a very comfortable ride but I enjoyed driving my Avalon more & it definitely had more power.
