Everyone disses the 70 series yet the waiting line for one goes around the world. I absolutely love the concept - IF IT AIN’T BROKE DON’T FIX IT! Long live the 70!
By everyone it’s mining fleets and companies, buying an inflated vehicle price and heaps of them, just adds assets to the company for the shareholders to be happy about.
@@JF-di1nr My neighbour is a mechanic in a workshop for a huge underground mine - 70series is the only vehicle that they will use underground - Rangers only lasted 6 months; Hiluxes similar.
Thanks Adam - our local regional Toyota dealership is taking a number of orders from farmers who want the same ‘utility’ of this model but with a more comfortable drive especially for their partners - I will stay with my Hilux which is relatively comfortable and practical being three vehicles in one - gardening & domestic duties/daily driver/camping & on road touring with my lift-on canopy setup - even in heavy city traffic the auto is just so pleasant and quick compared to my old Landcruiser manual V8 and much better fuel economy - the money I got for the V8 on its own paid for my Hilux with all the accessories & full aluminium canopy installation.
You can’t put the ford raptor in the same class. This will do 500,000km on one gearbox while the raptor would consume at least 5 to cover the same distance 😂
Maybe Aussie need to make cars if you are not happy, I think you guys used to make some cars before, 😅 Every countries are start making cars even India china… Try and Challenging to make car mate😂 We’ll judge for you mate😂
I think it's horses for courses before you can call the 2.8 way better. What about engine braking on steep descents? Smaller engine and auto, it won't be there. I guess if you want a vehicle as a daily driver and 'offroad' for you is gravel to a camp site, it probably is. But for most (at least the one's I know) 70 series owners, we'll stick with the v8 and accept the fuel efficiency penalty etc.
There's a reason why people still wanna lineup with that long *ss wait list for the 70series, and even the 300series, let alone its price compared to its competitors
It’s funny how people want to argue with facts. The V8 is so underpowered that it’s legal for “P” plate drivers. 0 to 100, no one even knows. Yet the fanboys will tell you about all the torque down low😂. The Korean SUV’s have more torque. Then everyone shouts, “it’s detuned and reliable”😂🤣.
If it wasn’t for that v8 engine really the price point is not so attractive. I got nothing against the vehicle it self but for that price they could at least add nicer interior such as softer materials and better quality seat etc. or fix the rear wheel track🤷♂️. Won’t hurt the reliability of that vehicle is it?
@@Andrew-hu1bx Yeah but 2019 was precovid. Paid $73,500 drive-away back then. If you paid the ridiculous money in 2021-2022 then yes - expect a big loss.
As an owner of both the 79 V8 and a 79 auto, I can tell you not to fall for the ridiculous marketing trying to convince everyone that the auto is better. It frankly isn’t. The amount of vibration coming through the drive train shaking and buzzing the snorkel is ridiculous, the V8 with twice the displacement never rattles like the auto. Everything that gives the V8 manual character the auto lacks. It’s honestly a piece of sh!t compared to the V8. I couldn’t sell it fast enough and luckily I did. The V8 is/was the reason why the 70 series was so special. Do yourself a favour and get a Hilux, you can get the top spec GR Hilux for less than one of the new crappy auto 70s. The engine is mated perfectly in the Hilux, while the injection of the small pot diesel in the 70 is definitely an after thought, absolute rubbish.
You are the first to say this as a supposedly owner of both. Everyone else whom has both say the new 4pot auto is by far the choice between both options, and others comment how much more refined the drive chain is, that makes you the odd one out. As a previous owner of a 76 V8 there was simply nothing quiet or refined in its drive, it's a harsh unrefined farm truck that wanders terribly, as hi lighted correctly by journos. Did you really get your hands on an auto and then offload it that quick or are you a disgruntled V8 owner trying to assure yourself that it's a good thing to own? Hmm. As a previous owner, I do everything I can to advise potential buyers to avoid them and the hype associated about them. The V8 motor rumble is the only good thing about a 70 series and now there a superior power plant that disgraces the V8 in every aspect, especially towing.
@@ianweal3081 Lol, I own both and as I said, after owning the auto for about a month now, I just sold it. It’s going on a tow truck first thing in the morning to the interstate buyer, I can send you photos if you don’t believe me 🤣. But I could say the same to devalue your opinion also, are you just pretending to have owned the 76 to make your point? You don’t sound like a V8 76 owner, as even the people who sold and parted with those cars will always praise it, regardless of how flawed it was. Very special are the 76 V8s. Anyway, not sure why you’re getting disgruntled, everyone has a right to their own opinion. I didn’t say it doesn’t tow better, or has more power. I said it lacks any character. I didn’t mention refinement, that the V8 has any, but anything that it had in V8 guise, has been lost in translation through the 4cyl 2.8L auto. I always started the car pressing the second start button feature because unless you lightly feather the throttle, first gear is so clunky off the line it’s borderline unacceptable. Superior power plant 🤣😂 you didn’t just say that did you? Hilarious. What I am saying there is a better alternative with the existing 2.8l and that’s the Hilux and it’s better value in every way. Drive a GR Hilux back to back with a 70 auto GXL and see for yourself. Oh and send me your email if you want the photo proof in the morning 😃 Otherwise cheers and all the best 🍻
@@Joftaky well I accept you have a 2.8 auto but you can easily tell I'm a previous 76 owner as you know well, the 70 series wander terribly & that was my biggest gripe, so yes that's tells you right there I owned one. You're still the odd one out though, as others who have gone to the 2.8 praise it over their V8 in all aspects, just as journos are. You're welcome to keep your V8, the guy you sold the 2.8 to will be so appreciative to have the superior motor, yes superior in all aspects except exhaust note. Yes, I've convinced many to avoid the hype, they have opted to the Prado, I'd always wished I'd brought a Prado instead too in respect. As I said, the rumble was good, there's your praise but nothing else could be praised, Despised the bloody thing. If as you say, those that have sold them still praise them, why the hell did they sell them. I accept & know why, the resented the thing as I did. Further clarification I owned one. When replacing it, wife says, "you replace it with another 76 and you'll be travelling alone", she despised it from the passenger seat, haha. 😂
Yeah it’s my thoughts exactly. The marketing/influencer hype is ridiculous. Toyota should have built a straight 6 and fitted it to the entire landcruiser range.
Why buy for the name! Reliability in present day is no different in essence between other brands. For the price lacks basic safety features (airbags etc). If you put a 6 speed with the V8 then you would get all the wow everyone talks about with the 2.8. Then if they put some effort in the V8 probably would double that of the 2.8.
this vehicle maybe good for offroad and towing but normal people wont go offroad everyday or tow everyday. not worth 85k i would rather spend more and get landcruiser 300 series. dont buy without test driving it . you will know what u after
Don't buy the 4 cyl auto because of fuel consumption. I get better fuel consumption out of my V8 manual Troopy. The manual transmission makes a big difference.
@@fathomtheundertaker4356 Yes, can see no reason to go for a 2.8L auto when it is no better on fuel in real world conditions. Only reason I'd get one is if someone cut off my Left leg and I couldn't work the clutch.
I drove Landcruiser FJ45’s (the Landcruiser 70 is very reminiscent in design of those older Cruisers) and also drove FJ55’s in PNG. They were super capable in that tough driving environment, and I’m sure the ‘70 is a perfect vehicle in the right place. It isn’t an urban car, it’s made for the bush, and where it’s used in the right environment it would be an extremely effective vehicle. It is a mistake to think this vehicle is made for everyday drivers. It’s made for specific rough country use, outback farming, jungle driving, all places where the fancy add ons most of us expect in the modern world are totally irrelevant. It isn’t a family car, it isn’t a supermarket run around. It has a definite rough country purpose. An interesting review of a vehicle that’s made for a very specific set of limited purposes. The new engine is probably a bonus for the new model. The old V8 was fabulous. Thanks for the review.
Throughout my life I’ve driven so many, and owned 23 many different vehicles over the years until my Tesla EV now. In PNG Govt owned Land Rovers failed in high mountain areas due to carburettor issues, so Landcruisers became the norm. I broke the chassis on an FJ45 in the PNG Highlands neatly behind both sides of the cab, so it briefly became an articulated LC. The chassis was welded back together with iron bar reinforcing.
Get back to us after you’ve done 100,000 k’s lol timing chain is going to f your life lol. And not to mention, did you see just recently Toyota had stopped production of these four-cylinder 70 series because of the engine😃😃
However, there is actually nothing wrong with the 2.8, just some dodgy claims reported by Toyota regarding emissions hence production grounded until resolved. For an alternative vehicle (as he suggested), buy the Mahindra, far more cost efficient & proving mega reliable hence his referral to other channel that has just covered how good the Mahindra really is. Aside from that, buy the Hilux.
This is the car that wealthy people buy to feel like a working class man. "I paid 90k on this car to save money on parts!" "It's reliable and simple but I also added 40k worth of addons" "I can play all my favorite cassettes!"
Actually they haven’t. It is still part of the range. But whether that means a dealer will take an order for a V8 is another matter. They may only produce as many as they had orders for before the facelift came.
my dad has a Fortuner 2.4L 2GD engine, its about 7 years old now, and no issues whatsoever, just regular oil changes, still powers up like a dream that engine is identical to the 2.8L 1GD which is on that LC70 series
They still ride like a farm truck and still have the narrow rear axle. The same engine in a Prado towing heavy caravans in hot weather reportedly they have cracked piston at the gudgeon pin. Might stick with the LC 200.
They are a farm truck. Out of interest, I traded my 200 for a Troopy - to each their own, but I love the Troopy so much more than the 200. Its old school and iconic.
@philg2468 No worries, Phil, I hope the Troopie is a ripper and takes you on great adventures. After a few trips, it would be interesting to compare the fuel usage from the 2 vehicles.
@@iandibley8032 I do mostly outback trips. On the Canning Stock route, not towing, the Troopy used 15% less fuel than a similarly loaded 200series I travelled with. We tow on GVD trips and similar difference. Skinny tyres and manual transmission make the difference. The 200series was always revving harder and the torque converter never locks up at lower speeds.
@philg2468 Yes,holding 6 gear is a challenge with the 200. I tow a 2500kg atm van 200 does the job reasonably, last September we where in Kimberlies, WA & N.T. great trip. That Canning is a challenging trip ,I have been watching Jaffa adventures certainly demanding. Safe travels in the Troopie.
@@iandibley8032 We also have a 2.5T offroad van and a 1.3T Tvan and have towed both with both the 2013 200 and 2019 Troopy. The 200series auto was not good - I towed mostly in S4 because it wouldn't lock up in S5 and in Drive it would change gears unnecessarily. I also found myself forever watching transmission temperatures. With a manual trans, I don't have to worry about any of that - just select the correct gear for what is ahead. The Troopy has less power and is not quite as stable as the 200, but I still prefer to be in control with a manual trans.
@@radod6147 envious!! 😂, I just bought the new 76 🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿, wouldn’t catch me with one of those vdj show pony p1ss weak v8’s, we had them in the gold mines hence why I didn’t buy one, 1 year old cars in the graveyard, they are the sh1tbox of the century.
@@therightcar the VDJ they/them 70 series owners are butt hurt now, couldn’t give me one, I could have bought one from any of the gold mines I worked at for $5k, dusted motor central.
