Dude.... thank you so much for your videos, very informative. After going back and forth with tri band and dual band wifi 6 routers for 2 days, i figured that the x60, with a wired backhaul is my best bet, one little piece of information that i would like to share is that, with the Netgear Orbi systems, i believe that you have to pay an annual subscription for their Armor software, after paying a premium on their tri band system, i think it is unfair to have the customer pay additional subscription for Armor. TP Link on the other hand doesent seem to have any such hidden costs. I have always been a TP link fan, and love their routers...Thanks for all your help.
No problem, yes you are right about paying additional fees. To link gives you a lot for free but if you get the higher end routers like the X68 or X90 there is also a paid subscription which gives more features granted I really think that should be free cause you're already paying a premium price. Asus XT8 takes the cake for free parental controls and extra features cause they literally don't have a paid version at all but the X60 is axing for wired backhaul, it is still my most preferred dual band system.
You make very informative and unbiased videos. By watching several I was able to choose this Mesh router with confidence. Thanks for communicating in a way so that non-tech people can understand and make sound decisions. THANKS!
Thanks for explaining the various connection methods and their speeds/reliability. This is the info that I was looking for and all the other reviews were just talking about the app.
I found that the range - is quite impressive. I have coverage in my entire back yard and can walk out the front door and get 3 houses over and still have connection to my wifi - HOWEVER, placement is key. In my office, I was getting worse speed than with my ISP's wifi - it was quite disapointing. After moving one of the access points to another location, I do now have incredible speed in my office.
I've watched multiple videos about this router and you are the first to go over a multiple of all the questions I had and answered them all! Awesome video!
Excellent review. I've seen reviews by others & none go into as much depth as yours. I'm a newbie & didn't even know the limitations of dual-band Mesh systems.
Thanks for this video made our decision easier; we were looking at the X20 but glad we picked up the X60 - its working great! Have 3 units one on each floor.
I couldn’t decide between the Deco X60 & the Eero 6 until I watched your reviews and comparisons, I opted for the Deco X60 3 pack and couldn’t be happier.
Well, the product is going back 1. have to use their app to use it. 2. No app for Windows and can't use a browser. 3 Have to create an account to use to use it. 4. You need an Android or Apple phone\tablet to set up. Really upset with Microcenter sales for giving me the wrong information ... I asked for a router ... sales directed me to this, and in my opinion ... it's not really a router. I don't see one video that brings this detail out ... they thus get a TD!
Great video, I have this mesh setup but I have the 3 point system and I love it. I just recommended it to a friend and was trying to find more information on how the speeds are on wireless as 2/3 of mine are ethernet backhauled.
Thanks, yeah ethernet is the way to go. Wireless backhaul is not bad considering this is a dual band but there are better ones out there for wireless backhaul like the XE75 or the powerful XE200.
I haven't tested the X20 but judging based on the specs, this will have better wireless backhaul speeds compared to the X20. In terms of coverage, 3 X20's would probably cover more than 2 X60's.
We have ethernet cables running through each room, so I am planning to do a wire backhaul (if I understand the term correctly), use the default router/wifi/modem from the ISP provider, turn off the wifi functionality of the default router (not sure yet how to do that though) and put deco on each room and use 5ghz band. Do you think that will work? The router/modem comes from Huawei. Will it have problem with the Deco units? Can the TV and other small devices connect to the 5ghz band?
Following your excellent review and thanks for the review I bought the deco x60 and I am very satisfied, I just wanted one question from you, do I need to change the encryption to wpa3, or some setting to use wi fi 6 on its best speed .
No problem! You don’t need to do anything to use WiFi 6, it’s automatic assuming your device supports it. Enabling WPA3 may not be compatible with older devices so you can try it but I usually use WPA2 or a combination of WPA2 and WPA3 assuming there is an option for that.
I appreciated that you mentioned dual band vs tri band but do you think for the average home owner a dual band is sufficient? That has been my interpretation but wanted to see you you think. Thank you! PS which mesh system do you use?
Dual band is sufficient in most cases but it all depends on the person. If you're doing a wireless backhaul (Option #4) setup and you don't mind slow downs on the secondary device, then go with dual-band. With wired-backhaul (Option #3), there's not much difference between dual band or tri band. Technically in that case it can support more wireless devices without slowing down as much but most people will not encounter this anyways. I am currently using the eero Pro 6 and the Netgear Orbi RBK752. The last few weeks however I was using the ASUS XT8.
Hello. I really appreciate all your detailed analysis and consistency of all your test to ensure fair comparisons. How does this system measure up against the Google Nest AC220? Which do you feel is the better purchase; primarily focused on range and speed? Thank you.
Glad it’s useful. I did a whole mesh comparison and picked this Deco X60 as the winner of the best bang for your buck. There’s less of a difference between them when using option 3 and I haven’t used this long enough to find out it’s reliable but overall it’s better than the nest WiFi
Nice review!! Just bought a 2-pack of these for my 150 sqm house. Still waiting for them to arrive, but I hope 2 will be enough to cover the most important areas. The fiber modem is beneath the living room and dining room so 1 will be downstairs and 1 upstairs. I also have Ethernet ports leading from downstairs to ports upstairs. My question for you is (hang on now). Is this setup possible to not lose much performance: Deco 1 to modem -> Deco 1 to a switch -> Switch to Ethernet port on the wall (downstairs) -> Ethernet port on the wall (upstairs) to Deco 2 -> Deco 2 to another switch -> Switch to different devices, like Apple TV. The wifi will probably be ok, but will I lose performance if I don't directly connect Deco 1 and 2 and instead connect to Deco 2 through a switch? Will the devices at the end (Apple TV etc) lose any performance with this setup? Thanks in advance! :) @landpet
Thanks! You shouldn't lose any performance assuming all Ethernet cables support at least gigabit speeds and the switch also supports gigabit. Mine goes through a switch as well and it's fine.
Hi, thanks for great reviews. I plan to buy this x60 deco. I just want to know if there is significant difference between deco x60 and deco x68 in terms of having all units wired connection. I mean do i really need triband deco while having wired connection! thanks
@landpey Really love your review. You give excellent description of the features. I was wondering, would I loose performance If I were to do the following in ethernet connection: Deco #1 --> Newwork Switch --> Dec #2 The reason is the I want some extra lan ports.
The third band would be used in conjunction with the other two to reduce congestion if it was in Ethernet backhaul. But the benefits would only be relevant if you had a lot of wireless devices in use at the same time
After I saw your review I decided to buy the X60. It wasn't so easy to configure or use as I expected. One thing I was confused about was I ended up naming the X60 network a different name from my existing network name. I couldn't see devices that were connected to my existing show up on the X60. Can I use the SAME NETWORK NAME for the X60 setup as my existing?
on your previous review of the ASUS ZenWiFi AX Mini (XD4) at 15m range test compared to the TP-LINK Deco X60 , the Asus did much beter and it costs less. I would asume you would reccomend the asus over the TP-LINK ?
Depends what you're looking for. I like the X60 cause it gives better wireless backhaul numbers compared to the XD4 and every X60 has 2 ports where the XD4 nodes only have one. They're both good but I personally prefer the X60.
I haven't tested it with those speeds but I imagine it will be a little slower with wireless backhaul. From what I've seen, the internet slows down relatively based on your speeds. Granted this is the best dual band I've tried so it's worth a shot to see how week it does. The weird thing is I got almost full speeds on my xbox (xbox connected via ethernet to secondary router) while in option #4.
Where the X60 fell down for me was that it only has 2 Lan ports (compared to the X55 that has 3) This means that ethernet switches will be needed to ethernet connect the triple set at the hub with the other 2 as satellites (you have the double). That's dumb by TP as that increased the cost instantly as it meant I instantly needed a handful of switches to connect my hardwired devices on the satellites where as with the X55 I could just get away with it. lazy lazy lazy TP I mean what would have been the cost of more Lan ports :-(
Do you need to plug one directly into the modem, or if we have data ports around the house, can we just plug the main deco into one of those ports and set up? Also, to make them access points, do we need to turn off the wifi on the modem? Right now, the main deco is plugged into the wall port, not the back of the modem, and I have them set in access point mode. We then connect to the modem's wifi, and it reaches all over, but the deco wifi is still visible. I assume that's just for set up and I can hide the network if I wanted? I THINK it's working properly but idk how to test that. For reference, modem/router is in the basement and I'm still able to connect with full bar wifi on the 2nd floor, so I think that means the access points are just boosting the signal as I wanted?
It sounds right from what you're saying since you're running it in access point mode. You don't need to turn off the wifi from your modem since you are running the to link in access point mode. I personally prefer turning off the wifi from your modem and connecting these to a modem and running this in router mode but the important thing is, if it works and you're satisfied then everything else is just semantics.
Hi, is it possible to hook each deco device to a switch? I dont want it to be hooked with other deco. I have 4 stories house. I want 1 deco in each floor. Also will the seamless roaming still work? Topology will be like this MODEM>SWITCH>PORT1-DECO 1/PORT2-DECO2/PORT-3-DECO3/PORT4-DECO4 I just want full speed on each floor
You can hook up each deco to a switch however the modem must connect to the deco first,l. Modem cannot connect to switch then Deco. Modem > Deco > from here it doesn’t matter > you can go to switch > deco > switch > deco Or Modem > Deco > Switch > Deco > Deco > Deco > Switch After modem connects to Deco, from there you can place switch or deco
That is what I said in the videos but the X60 was tested in my old place and the X20 was tested in my current place where it's more open so it's easier to get more range.
I would disable the router portion of the nighthawk by disabling or putting it in bridge mode. OR you can leave your router alone and run this in access point mode by changing the operating mode in the settings, it’s defaulted to router mode.
Seems like it will be good since it's a triband mesh system. Very cheap at Costco right now. I just finished the X90 review, should have that posted in about a week but I'm certain the M9 is a much better deal.
@@landpet I am ordering it now at Costco. Surprise surprise, Costco price is cheaper than Amazon for this. There is also a model from TP Link which has the Uplink working through the power line. I am not sure if that model is better than my tri band ot not. Ethernet over power line can go very far but has a speed limit.
@@maxwell9557 I will say the Deco X90 didn't have the perfect tri band speeds I was expecting but that may be early on since it just came out. They may fix it with firmware updates.
Thanks for the great video! Here's my situation: 500/500 Mbit fiber connection, I will not use a ethernet cable between main and satellite unit, family of 6 that uses many smart units + phones, TVs and laptops with a son that play lots of PS4. If it could reach 10+ meters out in the garden that would be nice. Would you recommend Deco x60 or Asus Zenwifi AX XT8. Thanks in advance!
No problem. Between those 2 choices considering your situation, I would get the XT8. Eero Pro 6 and Netgear Orbi RBK752 are also good choices for your situation
great video! thanks verry intersitin. Question, if i have 2 routers with my home modem that is a router as wel do I need to connect one of the routers with a ethernet cable or can I have them both via wifi connected to my own router/moden (like something like a range extender). Let me know thanks
One of them needs to be connected to the cable modem/router via Ethernet cable. You will then want to place them in access point mode so your original assigns IP addresses.
Great video. Do you think this is better than Google Nest in terms of speed and coverage? I’m looking for the best mesh system between 200-300. Thanks for your help
@@landpet thank you! I’m also looking into Asus. It looks like I could get 2 AiMesh compatible routers. These look like traditional routers but I assume it’s the same technology. Do you any experience with Asus?
@@jimindelicato5584 I'm going to review the Asus ZenWifi XT8 within the next 2 to 3 weeks. I had an asus router for years and they were fine but AiMesh wasn't as good as all these modern mesh systems. That could also be that my routers were old (RT-AC68U). I feel like it's better to buy a mesh system than get 2 routers and make a mesh out of them.
@@landpet I found TP-Link Deco M9 Plus at Costco. 3 pack for $170. It’s tri-band so I am thinking it will be better for wireless backhaul vs X60. And the X60 is $210 for 2 pack. The X60 is newer but I feel like the only advantage is wifi 6. I think I’m going to give the M9 Plus a try
Great review! I have 1 ethernet port in the living room and 1 on the 4th floor. Will this go through the concrete so i have wifi on all floors? If i put 1 in the living room and 1 in my room (4th floor). Thanks!
Thanks! It should but the signal may be weak, I would recommend getting one on each floor. Btw, the Ethernet cable is limited to 100 meters, just wanted to let you know, I’m sure your cable is less than that based on the number of floors but just wanted to give you a heads up.
How do you figure out these model numbers.. Like X60 vs AX3000, looking for a mesh system on a budget, wireless backhaul setup.. some places advertise as X60 or XE75 and others advertise AX3000...
AX3000 is the speed rating. X60 is the model number. XE75 is the model number where that has a speed rating of AXE5400. Speed ratings are the WiFi standard followed by 4 to 5 digits (the digits represent the sum of all the max frequencies within each band, the sum is then rounded to the nearest 100) Wifi 6 would start with AX Wifi 6E would start with AXE Wifi 7 would start with BE
I haven't done a direct comparison between the two in the same circumstance. They are both good though, X55 is newer. I would go for the one that costs less.
What’s the difference between this and the deco x55? I haven’t been able to figure that out, it seems that the x55 is the better option since it has an extra Ethernet port at the back (3 in total) and also has “ai driven mesh” which isn’t mentioned on the x60 page, also covers more area according to the Amazon page. It costs a bit more but I’m not sure if these are the only differences, on their website you can compare products but it also doesn’t show anything major between the 2
I can’t remember off the top of my mind other than the obvious additional port. I think the X55 also has 160MHz channel support where the X60 does not but I may be confusing it with another mesh. Generally speaking they are pretty similar to each other.
@@landpet thank you so much for the reply, I think I’ll get the x55 in that case since it seems to be the better option, not sure why the number is lower tho since, well usually the higher the number the newer/better the product and considering their both almost identical they could’ve named it the x65 but it is what it is
If the decos are as close as 1 meter to each other, would it be a problem?Actually, there is a small distance in between, but it is covered with walls. And I want to buy 2 separate decos for that area and set up as a wired backhaul. I have already some decos in my house. I want to add more.
Any thoughts on the M9 plus vs x60. The M9 is Tri band, but not WiFi 6. X60 is only dual band, but does support WiFi 6. The x90 is too expensive for me.
I don’t have the deco m9 plus to compare and I don’t have the X60 anymore either. I don’t always keep all the mesh WiFi’s I review otherwise there would be no space in my place. Between those two, I would go with the X60 because lots of devices support WiFi 6
Hi, first of all I find your reviews very helpful. I want to buy tplink deco x60 2 packs. I want to connect the main deco and the other with ethernet cable. Do I have to use a switch every once in a while? If I connect it directly as in the 3rd option, will I have a problem? Thank you.
Thanks for the feedback. You don’t need a switch, you only need it if you want more Ethernet ports. You can connect the decos to each other directly via Ethernet which will give you a great connection at both nodes
Hey brother, im confused between deco x60 and engieneous access point for my 4 storey home. Every point will have seperate ethernate connection from modem
One Deco X60 router connects to your modem, then from that main Deco X60 router, you can go to the other X60 or you can go from the main Deco X60 to an unmanaged switch, then from that switch, you can go to all the other Deco X60's. I'm going to do a video on the Deco X68 or Deco X20 on how to connect them, whatever I say in that video can apply to the X60. If you want to see something now on how to connect it, you can watch my eero 6 setup video and every time I say eero 6, you can assume I'm saying Deco X60 because the connections are the same. Here is my eero 6 video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s-_oHljF3pg.html
Do you have any troubleshooting tips for intermittent internet loss, I have trouble staying connected during wifi gaming sessions and work meetings. I've tried changing alot of the settings in the app but honestly i dont know what im really doing, although turning off beamforming definitely made things worse, despite the tp link FAQs recommending trying it. I am only in a 2 bedroom flat, there is alot of wireless connections around me from other flats, i don't know if that has any impact or if there is a way to combat this?
I didn't have issues when I was using it, I'm assuming you tried restarting both your internet and this mesh? Other than that, I can't recommend much else. If you have a switch, check the switch as well, bypass it and see if problems disappear. Also check your ethernet cables, the ones connected from the modem to the router or both if you're on wired backhaul.
I have the deco w6000 2 pack. If I wanted to add a third to my system, what is compatible that will connect to my existing set up? Does it have to be a mesh or will one of my TP-Link extenders connect at all? I can’t seem to find a single w6000 anywhere. Thanks
Yes you should enable bridge mode. I don't believe this will change anything since the MoCA is going through the ethernet port. If it gives you issues, you can connect it from the 1st X60 like so: Xfinity Gateway > X60 > 1st MoCA > 2nd MoCA > X60. Since now you're internet source is coming from the
considering that google nest access points go offline when the internet is down.....meaning internal network between devices goes off line for ones using the access points.... does this happen with these ? its a test that no one is doing
I don’t have these anymore to test but u don’t need the internet to have devices talk to each other on the same network typically. I think nest is the same from what I remember.
It depends on your setup, how many walls you have, how far the deco's are from each other, how fast your internet speeds are, among other things. If you're going for a wireless backhaul setup, I would get something more powerful like the Deco XE75 if you're at 1Gbps or under. That should be better than the X60 for wireless backhaul, for wired backhaul, they should all work great. Streaming also depends on your upload speeds, even with the best router if your upload speeds aren't that fast, it still may cause lags.
What's the router model number? It should work if you put it in bridge mode. OR you can run the TP-Link in Access Point mode which just expands your existing network and your current router remains the router. More info here: www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1842/
Hi buddy, been going through ur videos doing my R&R to zero in on a router that meets my requirements, but Im still confused :( can you plz help me, I have a 500mbps ISP connection, and I need fast Internet with extremely low latency/data loss, the issue is I can only connect a router to my modem and I need the strong signal around 10-15ft away in another room that has walls obstructing, and Im only able to get 70-80mbps as of now, what might be the best possible "WIRELESS" solution as per you?? I am considering Deco X60, Asus AX6600 (single unit) or TPLink Archer AX73
It also depends on the device you're running the speed tests from. From those choices, I would go for the AX73 for your situation. If the device you're using has an ethernet port, I would get a mesh system, connect one to the router and just plugin in the second one in that room so it can wirelessly talk to the router. Then you can plug in your ethernet to the wireless node you placed in the room and that should get you great speeds. Check out the ASUS XT9 (2 pack) for that. Here's an example video of the Deco BE85 where I run a test off the wireless backhaul node via wifi and via ethernet from the device and show the speed differences. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y9fiQqi_egA.html
I don't know how to get it to detect the device with the correct name, some stuff it shows up generic other stuff it shows up correctly. It's the same with other mesh wifi's I test, I haven't pursued this.
Is there a way to separate the 2.4 and 5ghz signals? Some of my devices only connect to 2.4ghz, and the 5ghz has to be totally disabled when those devices try to connect.
Funny you ask, I’ve ordered it but it’s on back order from Amazon, expected to arrive in 2 weeks. I should have something posted by next month, hopefully early next month. I’m gonna do a tri band router comparison between the eero pro 6, Orbi rbk752, X90 and XT8
Something must be wrong, did you check the status on the deco app to see if it’s sewing it as wired? Did you verify the Ethernet cable works? Are you using at least a cat5e (not cat 5) and above like cat6, cat7?
@@landpet so I checked directly at the eth port on the main deco which is going out to the node deco and that is where I see the speed drop. Funny that when I run the node units over wifi I get better speeds. Checked the cables all are cat5e . I think i will return the unit, any suggestions what to replace it with?
@@soheilshah1 That is strange. Best bang for buck is the TP Link Deco X68. Best mesh wifi I've tested is the ASUS ET8. Can't go wrong with the eero Pro 6 either.
@@landpet unfortunately the ET8 is currently unavailable in Sweden. I will take your recommendation for it being the best and wait until it is available. I returned the x60 today and have gone for wired connection in the offices
And moreover I wanted to thank you for the time you take to reply to comments and give advice. It is highly appreciated. I have subscribed and will keep watching your tech reviews.
What do you mean cloud based? Are you asking if you can access it even when you're not home? I believe you can, I don't have it any more to test but I believe you can
If you're doing wired backhaul, I would go with dual band wifi 6. If you're doing wireless backhaul and the tri-band wifi 5 is cheaper, then I would get tri-band wifi 5. I'm assuming you're asking X60 vs M9
@@landpet I just got myself a M9 3 pack for 299, but the x60 was on sale for the same price, i was wondering the same thing, i am doing wireless backhaul and thought about switching to x60 for future proofing my devices (wifi 6 compatible), but then again dual-band vs tri-band is huge with wireless backhauling. Internet speeds over 500 is no use for me I have another option to opt out for a x68, but i cannot find it anywhere on Europe
@@priyankmaheshwari If you're doing wireless backhaul, that's when triband will have the greatest benefits. If you're doing wired backhaul, there's going to be less of a difference. But I will say, this dual band mesh is the best I've tested compared to other dual bands.
@@landpet appreciate it. Yeah, buy by doing wired, I loose option of hooking up a switch for stationary devices, so was debating in my head. Getting my 3 unit setup today, can't wait to power them up and try!
@@priyankmaheshwari Well you can hook it up to the switch, then wire from the switch to the other TP Link router. That way you can still get extra ports. But good luck either way. Let me know how it works for you. Thanks!
I just finished the X90, will have that posted in a week or so. I sort of have a feel for the X20 based on its specs. Which option do you plan on using and how big is your place? I can recommend something based of that. X20 will not be great for wireless backhaul (option #4), I'm predicting speeds will be cut by about half.
@@landpet thanks for asking. After it happened like 5 times (Id have to turn off modem & router) I decided to switch one of the satellites to be the "main" and I updated firmware. That seemed to fix it for now.
Well, ironically, it disconnected the Internet last night and required both modem and router to be powered off and on. I emailed TP Link the situation. Have a great week everyone!
I use the speed test app on my phone. The deco speed test would measure the speed at the router which would typically be your advertised speeds. A real test is when you get the speedtest app on your phone and do the test over wireless which is what I did here.
You can use VPN software installed on your computer and that would work fine going through this. I don't believe you can run the VPN directly on this to encrypt all traffic.
