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@QuestingBeast Год назад

Knave 2e has 48 hours left on Kickstarter! www.kickstarter.com/projects/questingbeast/knave-rpg-second-edition?ref=d7ipc5 The Hazard System doc from Necropraxis: bit.ly/HazardSystem

@andrewmichaelschaefferXIV Год назад

I'm working on a Homebrew version of a Dark Sun themed campaign and this Hazard die system is going to be priceless Thank you

@davimedeiros4196 Год назад

Where's the actual version for the backers?

@arasakainc 8 месяцев назад

So, I unfortunately missed your kickstarter for Knave 2e, and while I've only just come in contact with this system, I love it and I want a nice solid book of it. Is there any plans in the future for another print run or something? I would love to buy one.

@DungeonMasterpiece Год назад

I've never thought to do this during combat. Brilliant!!!

@DUNGEONCRAFT1 Год назад

Awesome video. Rock on, my brother.

@user-qx9bn3nl9m Год назад

I've used the Hazard die to run dungeon crawls since Necropraxis started using it in his campaign back in 2013 or so. It is a great way to allow for shorter sessions and retain the risks associated with exploration. The fears I see hear are the ones that always come up and come down to "what if it feels weird". It doesn't, not usually. More important this is a table top RPG mechanic ... meaning: 1) We accept some gamification to save time and mental effort. The hazard die (which works best with abstracted time, zonal movement, a strict encumbrance rules) is a way of simplifying and the mechanics and emphasizing the risk of room by room exploration. It does an efficient job at making exploration turns matter while saving time and referee mental load. Some players will feel a that it costs "realism", but like most complaints rooted in verisimilitude this usually translates to "I can't meta-game this aspect of play anymore". Where it's honest, it's a feeling that often fades quickly, just like the various simplification of RPG combat. 2) RPGs still have referees. If the die result feels especially incoherent you can either justify it in the setting or change it. A second torch result in a row can become a lantern result or a bad batch of torches. Multiple exhaustion events in a row could be bad air or one can start using a 3-events before rest/penalties. Systems like the hazard die can be adapted to your setting and table, either on an ad-hoc or house rule basis.

@ILoveEvadingTax Год назад

I think this is exactly the kind of clarification I needed around this mechanic, thank you! Nice to know my assumptions on how this works in practice match up with your real-world experience

@JKevinCarrier Год назад

I like the concept, but I might limit it to things that are genuinely out of the characters' control. Having torches just randomly go out, or rations suddenly disappear, seems a little unfair. I like the Shadowdark idea of tying expiration to real time, since that's something the players can exercise some control over (i.e. by not dawdling around).

@playerextremebr1.027 Год назад

Dungeon Clock

@dbretton Год назад

I think the Shadow dark idea is incredibly stupid. Tying your torch light to real time makes absolutely no sense because the game isn't tied to real time. It's a terrible attempt to address an infrequent problem in an awful way.

@playerextremebr1.027 Год назад

@@dbretton Um, ok

@adamdorris7104 Год назад

@@dbretton I actually think that the torch idea is useful. It allows for a very visible pressure to keep moving, while also eliminating an arbitrary 'time' counter to track. I might even double down and use it for rolling encounters every real ten minutes (which lines up nicely with the d6 method here). During combat, the short time averages out with more hectic conditions and the need for some time to recover especially if you consider rounds as several exchanges instead of just one. Ultimately, if it is an infrequent problem, what's the harm in using real time?

@kolardgreene3096 6 месяцев назад

@@adamdorris7104 I agree. Shadowdark's style of play is also very much linked to real time, contrary to what dbretton assumes. It's just that kind of game. Now for a game built around more high level tactical decision making, I'd use a different system. For example, I run a dungeon crawl that relies on old school rules of using dungeon turns and having the party relay their actions to me through a single player, the speaker. That kind of gameplay is meant to be more methodical, relying on wits and team cohesion. Shadowdark emulates that style of play but focuses on real-time drama with resource management and dangerous dungeons putting pressure on the real-time decision making. It's just a different kind of game, y'know?

@EricfromBloatGames Год назад

I love how simple this is. Perfect for the already busy DM. It keeps play moving, and the timer clicking, without being another task to keep up with. Genius.

@BenWillyums Год назад

I'm just thrilled that someone knows the singular of 'dice'

@mykediemart Год назад

It's a different way to roll for random thing to occur.

Год назад

It seems like a clean system, but it might cause weird results. If characters keep rolling the same number, for instance, a 3 in a Dungeon Turn, their torches go out every turn, or the opposite, if they never roll a 3, their torches last forever.

@Bluecho4 Год назад

The obvious answer then, for the DM, is "okay, don't do that". The DM is the final arbitor of what happens. They can decide that if a result coming up repeatedly would just be unlikely, that it just doesn't happen again (at least for a while). No one said you're slave to dice rolls. It's there to enhance the game and provide uncertainty, not to hinder it. On the flipside, a party finding their torches repeatedly go out could be spun into a "plot point" unto itself. _Why_ are the torches going out, despite being freshly lit? Did they get some bad torches, or is there some environmental effect (ex: gusts of air) or malign interference (ex: a ghost or evil wizard) going on?

Год назад

@@Bluecho4 I understand your point, but if the DM decides to ignore results, why roll the dice at all? The "plot point" idea is great!

@nutherefurlong Год назад

Was immediately thinking of ways around that. One might be to have a card deck system so there's a more even distribution of results (weighted as one likes with certain cards signaling a shuffle), or having repeat results have an alternate result that's more severe, or at least different (storm gets worse, fatigue is a result of an illness, whatever one prefers). I would definitely not do it straight out of the system if it didn't seem to fit, but I like how it encapsulates the major things that can go wrong during an adventuring unit of time

@Bluecho4 Год назад

@ Again, rolling dice is a tool. We roll for random encounters to be surprised. If a tool isn't fit for the purpose at hand, it should be put away and a different tool used. There's nothing wrong with rolling the dice, seeing the result doesn't make for a good play experience, and ignoring it. That's your right as DM.

@kgoblin5084 Год назад

@@Bluecho4 "Again, rolling dice is a tool. " And some tools are better than others, for some or all purposes. Just last night I watched a video critiquing a 'hammer fist' tool, & how in general it was far, far inferior to a good old claw hammer. The promise of hazard dice is it reduces the effort to track stuff... but it fails to do that adequately for tracking finite resources... probably the main thing people want to be easier to track. It is a very legitimate criticism, & just telling people 'well, don't use it then hurr durr' without any actual suggestions on how to fix the problem is singularly unhelpful.

@AdlerMow 7 месяцев назад

I love the using 2D6 roll in each room on the dungeon and in hexcraw. I use it like the OD&D reaction table: 2 Terrible, disaster 3-5 Poor, worse than expected 6-8 Average, as expected 9-11 Good, better than expected 12 Great, unexpected perks After this roll, I roll an D66 table of descriptors. Each room had a function in the dungeon, mostly minor like storage, but some have a backstory tied to it, like a torture chamber, a prisioners' cell, a forge, a treasure room, etc. So, having a short description will prompt roleplay and backstory, and if there repetition, you change the meaning slightly so it weaves in the overall narrative.

@Davholl Год назад

Hazard dice is one of the best things out of the osr

@GUNDAMURX73 Год назад

Every once a while, I stumble on something and have a strong sense that it's going to be a huge game-changer for how I run the game. Today, this is that thing. Thanks a ton for sharing this system!

@themcchuck8400 Год назад

The "overloaded encounter die" has been around for years, because it's a really good idea for some play styles. This is a logical expansion of that idea into every situation. I like it!

@Runehammer1 Год назад

complex, confining,.. i’m baffled by this one

@kyotefox Год назад

Probably because what he shows has nothing to to with the claim or the title "track everything in DnD with one die". It doesn't track resources, it just has a chance of randomly consuming them.

@Runehammer1 Год назад

@@kyotefox I guess every method has a home, but at our table things just unfold naturally with time, Not sure why it would need presets… that said, every table has its go-tos 😊

@kgoblin5084 Год назад

@@Runehammer1 Problem is they're taking a good core idea - a multi-function encounter die you roll ea. turn; & overloading the crap out of it because they have a hammer & want to use it on every nail, even if it's a screw. Drop the expiration & fatigue outcomes, & the weird combat turn table where you can randomly stub your toe; & it's just a more frequent encounter check with more variety... and ain't nothing wrong with that.

@yzfool6639 7 месяцев назад

@@kyotefox Not a charitable interpretation. Instead of DM tracking resources directly, the PCs remove a resource under random conditions. PCs track their resources, any or all resources, not the DM. In this way, any and all resources get tracked.

@KA-ct8zf Год назад

Absolutely using this for my homebrew. Can't believe I never thought of this before. Excellent!

@jasonGamesMaster Год назад

Reminds me vaguely of a system the Angry GM came up with a few years back, but it was a pool of dice and it could be rolled early if the players did something stupid. I wouldn't use these because its too random (things like torches, spell effects, and rations have a logic that this violates) but like usage die, which i also don't like, I'm glad they exist for the people that do

@kyleharder3654 Год назад

Very interesting, never heard of this before. Thanks for explaining it!

@lucasmarquesdecamargos4298 Год назад

I like the granularity and the agency characters can have if they track their stuff and act to preserve it. However, I really loved how this system can improve a "downtime", or a for city adventures in general. Even for the Dungeon turn, maybe just taking away the ration part, I can make it really useful too. Thanks for sharing! Can't wait for Knave 2e!

@mistergoats4380 11 месяцев назад

I was having trouble running OSR games before this video but this has completely transformed the experience. Thank you.

@valterink8997 Год назад

Awesome system! I'm going to implement this one to my Shadowdark RPG games

@TheEzekiel113 Год назад

I love this and will try it in my campaign soon

@AyarARJ Год назад

What is it, D6 appreciation day? PDM's vid today says D6 endlessly too. No matter, really appreciate the intro to this hazard system. And while I have this preference for something non-D6, seems easy enough to adapt to D8 (Dbyte) or whatever. Thanks.

@stefanocasella7076 Год назад

I think I'll do that in my PbtA fantasy games, sounds like the perfect "not-so-hard hard GM move" 👍🏻

@Mantorp86 11 месяцев назад

This is perfect! A super compact system and also a D6 roll which is my favourite 🙂

@mythadology 3 месяца назад

Oh, ya stealing this and twisting it to my own ends.

@ahtech1990 Год назад

Yup, I've used this since I read it off of necropraxis blog years ago. Simple, easy to use, and easy to make a short list for everything. Context helps when winging it. Super useful.

@coldwarrior78 Год назад

Interesting concept. I can see its utility but I don't find tracking time difficult for issues like torches, spells and food. Having been a soldier and backpacker, I have loads of experience carrying (and running out of) stuff. I encourage my players to pay attention to these details (in the beginning they never do). After running short of food and water a few times (and suffering thereby) players pay much more attention. I also try to get my players out on a hike or backpacking trip so they internalize concepts like encumbrance and water.

@Dizerfullpower Год назад

realism is a mental illness

@HouseDM Год назад

Can’t wait for my Knave premium book! Go Ben, go! 💪🏼🔥

@jobobminer8843 Год назад

I love this so much

@Joshuazx Год назад

Meh, it's fine. I think it's too busy. I prefer Angry GM's Tension Pool / Time Pool mechanic. Put a d6 in your time pool each turn (exploration turn). This helps you track time / the number of turns. You create tension by adding dice to the pool because of what happens when you roll the pool. When you get to 6 die in your pool, you roll all the dice. If you roll any 1's, something bad (an encounter) happens. Then clear the pool and start over. If the player characters do anything stupid as you're filling the pool (less than 6 dice in the pool), roll the pool, throw bad thing at players if any 1's are rolled, and return the dice to the pool and resume tracking turns.

@yzfool6639 7 месяцев назад

Talk about 'busy'.

@Bluecho4 Год назад

I like the "Fatigue" result in a combat encounter, reflecting the PCs having their sword arms get tired from swinging them so much, or exhaustion from heat built up from running around in heavy armor. Though I'm inclined to make the "Advantage" result give the PCs actual Advantage in the fight. Like one of their foes trips and falls over, leaving them open to being attacked while prone.

@markgnepper5636 Год назад

Great stuff friend 👏 👍

@JohnSyrain-uz8ow Год назад

Adding to this concept: can lead into linking dungeons or adventures via adverse results plan to use this simple whatever it is...

@messenger3478 7 месяцев назад

Oooo, I could so use this with Mythic or a little off shoot I got called GMER. When rolling for Choas I can roll the hazard die when I roll equal to or less then the Chaos Level!

@dearbornsavoy Год назад

If it fits, I'll be using the usage die mechanic within the hazard system.

@SoloBattles Год назад

Backed! When I design a campaign, I have an order of events (this npc, this clue, this encounter, then this, etc.) My players can do whatever they want, but whichever way they go, whatever they decide to do, I modify the encounter to happen in their situation. Do they meet the next NPC in a tavern, on a ship, during combat, on the road, etc. This saves me time since I am not creating encounters they never see, nor do I ever run out of what happens next. They have no idea I run it this way, it feels natural to them. This works really well with the Knave creation tables. I can put together a really cool and original chain of encounters in a short time. Much easier than glaring at a blank page while blood droplets pool on my forehead trying to dream up the next encounter!

@petsdinner Год назад

As a big fan of Stuff Happening/Random Shenanigans, I like the look of this.

@rpgladob Год назад

This is awesome and I will bring that to my Brazilian audience, of course mentioning all involved! :)

@trioofone8911 Год назад

What a great system. Hey, looking forward to K2e. 😊

@jamesbarantor7094 Год назад

I already have my players roll for random encounters so having this in front of them would be an interesting concept too.

@artistpoet5253 Год назад

Sounds familiar but I really can't say from where. Still a great way to spice up turns and I can see this being a neat asset to solo gamers.

@HydraBTW 9 месяцев назад

My favorite 5th grade robot

@noahswanson3564 9 месяцев назад

Same

@pierluigimadau Год назад

Great stuff as usual! One question: have you ever found an alternative way to deal with HP?

@kalleendo7577 Год назад

Awesome!

@majorfallacy5926 Год назад

I generally like structuring your game around randomness but things like torches having a 1/6 chance of expiring right after you light them is a bit too immersion breaking for me. You could go more granular but imo the opposite is almost better. I like having a luck dice that either the players or the gm can roll whenever they feel like it (within reason) that can make the current situation better or worse proportionally to the result, by whatever means that make the most sense at the time

@drillerdev4624 Год назад

I love that fate dice idea. I can see players trying to escape an impossible foe with it, but I'm curious about how the GM can invoke it without it feeling petty or bossy on his part. Maybe it's something like rolling it for one of the three chests that the party just found?

@ILoveEvadingTax Год назад

doesn't necessarily have to be torches, and nothing really stops you from giving the players a free pass I suppose. I think the general spirit of this is to abstract all resource tracking to a single rolls and keep the game going

@majorfallacy5926 Год назад

@@drillerdev4624 You could combine it with a meta resource, but as a GM it's most useful reactively. If the game slows down too much and you don't know how to improv your way out of it without it feeling completely arbitrary you can let jesus take the wheel and see what the dice say. Works great with a fortune teller aesthetic too. But really rolling straight dice for random stuff in your world is just an age old rpg thing that everyone does to some extent anyway, not really a proper system

@Squirrel-Hermit Год назад

Resource dice is a great one...

@spaceturtle8 Год назад

I would love to see these hazard results on a Knave 2e GM Screen. 😉 😉

@semajsivraj Год назад

It works but I also like a progressive danger/hazard/event die. Keep rolling bigger and bigger dice until the players do something to make things calm down, something happens on 4, 6,8,10,12,16,24,30,50,60,70,80,90,100 with you rolling 1d4 first and a 1d6 next time and upward (with the events being much worse for the larger #s, the 4 can be as simple as "torches blow out").

@lockedlake Год назад

Random comment, I really like your Random Dungeon Creator poster behind you!

@draggo69 Год назад

Nice!

@keithkannenberg7414 Год назад

To me, systems like this feel too random. For instance, having the same negative effect pop up twice in a row just because that's what you rolled. Sometimes you can come up with an in game reason for what happened but often I think it would seem arbitrary and lack verisimilitude. I see this as more of a board game mechanic than one for RPGs. I'll continue to track things like this personally.

@vntHrzn 9 месяцев назад

I am looking for a broad table system for creating settlements which allows me to make a simple village to a major city. Any suggestions?

@awboqm Год назад

Wouldn’t the main source of food in the wilderness be foraged or hunted? I thought the whole point of rations was for use in a dungeon since you can’t get food any other way

@ILoveEvadingTax Год назад

I sorta think this is one of those "bad by design" rules, because I think inspiring referees to creatively make contextual rulings around a die roll for their table is the fun and correct way to interpret it. If you're out in the wilderness and the party wants to spend some of that time to look for game at the expense of travel time, you can factor that decision into your die roll.

@trollge3712 Год назад

im surprised this video didnt get many views i thought you were bigger than ever because of knave 2e

@dirigoallagash3464 Год назад

Dude, it had been live for like 5 minutes when you wrote. Oh...wait...username....

@trollge3712 Год назад

@@dirigoallagash3464 yt videos usually get more views in the first day than the next two weeks after it drops. yes hes getting bad numbers on this video

@dirigoallagash3464 Год назад

@@trollge3712 nom, nom, nom

@aaronsomerville2124 Год назад

Since the laws of probability tend to hate DMs, I predict that I will roll '3' like 5 times in a row, depleting their supply of torches in the first hour and ruining the adventure. It's a neat idea but in practice I feel more comfortable just tracking everything manually. I guess another way would be to have the list printed out, and put a check beside each result rolled. You cannot double up results until you roll a 6 to reset the chart (or until that's the last one left). Though that would make encounters too infrequent. That or maybe break '3' out into a sub-table, which would mean that I would only roll "3, 3" four times in a row instead of 5.

@iojgoro Год назад

the most simple way is to just go up a point if you roll doubles, or maybe just straight up count them as advantage

@ILoveEvadingTax Год назад

I think if you're running the risk of ruining someone's adventure, you should probably let your better judgement come in over a piece of plastic. Not to say they should always win, but just to let your empathy be your guide where it's appropriate

@aaronsomerville2124 Год назад

@@ILoveEvadingTax I understand but I find fudging dice so odious that I just prefer to be judicious about when and for what I roll.

@ILoveEvadingTax Год назад

@@aaronsomerville2124 Yeah, totally fair! I guess my ultimate interpretation is: "The referee should be regularly prompted for mundane but sometimes important stuff to happen at regular intervals, even if they choose not to act on it", which can be fully abstracted to a die roll if you want it to

@rpglazersharks7045 Год назад

Guess today's D6 day!

@GRIMSVOLT Год назад

Hey, Ben. I just checked out the PREVIEW of Knave 2e I didn't know where best to reach you. Where do we report typos?

@WittyDroog Год назад

Certainly depends on game, I could see this doing really well in a rules lite game, just get to the table and slash. I'd caution it against a B/X adherent game as time and resource management is the real meat and potatoes of the game, but I think at that point you're not looking at these kind of clean speed mechanics in the first place. You could allow for some weird "fate" effects that could modify these dice, like maybe allow a reroll as a twist of fate, to represent the "strangeness" of the setting, if GM's are worried about how the randomness could affect the flow. Maybe make that a player option to allow them to have agency on that

@anthonybernardo2214 Год назад

I like the system! But if you are rolling 6 times in the wilderness, what if someone rolls a few weather changes? How much will the weather actually change? How would you adjudicate that? Or since it says "local change" would you only do weather once and if it happens to come up again, you would maybe change the setting or something i.e. woodsy area to fields? Genuinely curious how you do it in your game.

@yzfool6639 7 месяцев назад

Intensify the weather. Diminish the weather. You change the system to 2d6 and make weather changes a 5 or a 9. You use this system as a time saving aid to your imagination and common sense.