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TRADING IN MY ISF FOR A IS500?  

Jaime Hurtado
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Giving you guys my honest opinion on the new 2022 Lexus is500 f sport. What I like, what I dislike, and will I be trading in my Lexus Isf for one. This is all opinion based and I know not everyone will agree, leave me a comment on if you agree or not.

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@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Wanted to share my opinions on the new IS500, again these are opinions so not all might agree!
@b58forever
@b58forever 3 года назад
My opinion is the is500 is another overprice car. That's all
@RP-vr8pi
@RP-vr8pi 3 года назад
@@b58forever i really don't care i want v8 on IS
@b58forever
@b58forever 3 года назад
@@RP-vr8pi get it then
@bigchocolate8547
@bigchocolate8547 3 года назад
The 0-60 numbers are really from the RCF and the GSF cars. I believe the IS500 is going to be quicker cuz it's lighter than those two cars.
@alwaysiyi272
@alwaysiyi272 3 года назад
I feel like this means that the F brand is going to be much more crazy and it's going to really compete with the other performance brand, if Lexus named it an ISF, people would complain that it didn't compete well with the liked of the M and AMG
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
I 100% agree! I really hope Lexus surprises all of us with an ISF that can not only compete but our perform other cars in its class! That’s the only reason I had gone away and joined the M club and I love it and I won’t be leaving it until Lexus can produce something that compares or is better then my M3 or the new Ms
@ishmaelpeavy4507
@ishmaelpeavy4507 3 года назад
or maybe the f brand is dead?
@warrenstroud3772
@warrenstroud3772 3 года назад
@@ishmaelpeavy4507 definitely dead
@alwaysiyi272
@alwaysiyi272 3 года назад
@@ishmaelpeavy4507 Nah, I don't think they would do that or else the RCF would have been rebranded to the RC500 F-Sport Performance, I think they want to elevate the F brand to really compete with the likes of M, RS and AMG
@blu_is500
@blu_is500 Год назад
Stumbled on your post. You did a great job pontificating the price, weight, and the IS 500’s position in the car world. E.g. Not a full on F product and not a direct competitor to the M3/M4. Well done! 🤘🏽👏🏽
@ISFASTER
@ISFASTER 3 года назад
The IS500 is the Lexus IS Scat Pack! Change my mind!
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
You going to pick one up!!?
@ISFASTER
@ISFASTER 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 - Nope!
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
@@ISFASTER you can change your name to ISFSportfaster
@04tsxpower
@04tsxpower 3 года назад
Ultimate insult, ridiculous comment
@ISFASTER
@ISFASTER 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 - then they’d be getting beat by an F-Sport! 🤣
@d1sturb3d119
@d1sturb3d119 3 года назад
Should be great. Dunno why all the ISF bro's on FB are complaining. Like this just means the F brand will actually compete and have higher power. Overall this is very positive positioning. The IS500 would be a perfect daily with cheaper brakes to service. Perfect car. The F models should now be strong than that. All in all very exciting!
@AliasProductions801
@AliasProductions801 3 года назад
It uses the 8 speed direct shift trans. 1st Gen ISF is 3800 lbs and the IS500 is 3850 lbs. A little heavier but like 50 more hp.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Thanks for the info!
@jamieleanderson
@jamieleanderson 3 года назад
I'm interested in how the IS500 will drive. Sucks because the general public will be even more confused in the difference between F and F Sport products lol. Especially when they see the staggered exhaust that's the same as the RCF. Oh Lexus. Would've been nice to see a new ISF with a forced induction engine along side the IS 500 so people can be ohh I see what your doing.
@Toyota4Life
@Toyota4Life 3 года назад
IS500 F sport PERFORMANCE ! Not just F sport. This is key have to get the correct terms being said. The ISF is confirmed and coming that is why this IS500 was not called a ISF because the ISF is coming and it will be bigger and badder.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
I hope your right so far I haven’t seen anywhere that it is confirmed just everyone speculating
@Toyota4Life
@Toyota4Life 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 Lexus never confirms they just release the speculations are coming out of Japan because of what is being seen and what is being tested. There’s are over five to maybe nine sources all confirming that Lexus is dropping F products this is because it’s happening
@kc9329
@kc9329 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 possible rumors of a whopping 660hp LCF , probably a 500hp ISF
@vvsre760
@vvsre760 3 года назад
Hoping for it to, want to get my hands on this beauty used/ certified pre owned. Thank you Lexus.
@Pepecoin123
@Pepecoin123 3 года назад
I’ll take the ISF
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
18000 and it’s yours it’s for sale
@jacklin2472
@jacklin2472 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 whats the mileage?
@Chris2jz
@Chris2jz 2 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 still got it?
@dpowell468
@dpowell468 3 года назад
It competes with the m340i and m440i,c43 and audi s4. The isf comes later
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
I think pricing is what will determine how successful it is
@bigjdm5460
@bigjdm5460 3 года назад
other than brembo brakes and seats , what’s actually missing cause i doubt any of u guys are circuit racing and using those brakes anyway....
@KantstandlamGarage
@KantstandlamGarage 3 года назад
Great video man! Valid points for sure.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
I watched your live stream 👍🏼 definitely agree with you specially on price that is the big question right now
@batch8144
@batch8144 3 года назад
You are correct IT'S beautiful.
@ravenstylea2
@ravenstylea2 3 года назад
The IS500 F Sport on a set coilovers will be a show stopper.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
100% I really like the styling
@ravenstylea2
@ravenstylea2 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 it's not an F car, but I like it though. Maybe you could review it when it comes out? That would be sick!
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
@@ravenstylea2 I hope I can get some seat time in one!
@IntegraDIY
@IntegraDIY 3 года назад
It can run with the dodge, Chevy Ford muscle cars and not break a sweat, but to be brutally honest.. it’s nothing special.. they should have added more aero and even more aggressive styling.. they should have done something outside the box for 2022. I know it’s the engine that’s the best part, but it looks like all the other Lexus vehicles
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
I agree that’s why everyone is really hoping there is still and ISF to come! With all that’s stuff you just mentioned
@seinundzeiten
@seinundzeiten 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 yes, it is a start to something...or perhaps, a last gasp at the V-8.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
@@seinundzeiten I feel like a last go for that V8 personally and I wouldn’t be mad
@khalilhenderson4082
@khalilhenderson4082 3 года назад
Definitely trade it in. Enjoy the different power trains Lexus never fails
@miguelsalazar3239
@miguelsalazar3239 3 года назад
Finally....u noticed the fenders too.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
That’s one of my favorite features of the Isf/rcf/gsf
@TheLexusIS250Dude
@TheLexusIS250Dude 3 года назад
I definitely want to test drive one when it's out in dealerships
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Same! I am very excited for it and I’m sure many ppl will love it
@TopRawMen
@TopRawMen 3 года назад
Dealer sales people, I'm sure are very excited about this.
@ChristianC-gy1ym
@ChristianC-gy1ym 3 года назад
I doubt they'll let ppl test drive them
@thehuangbros
@thehuangbros 3 года назад
Valid points. Good review.
@808G8GT
@808G8GT 3 года назад
Everything looks great about the is500.....except the rear trunk, hideous. I hope they make a spoiler to make the lines of the rear wider. The 2is is still the best looking of all generations.
@BoogieBoyBronx
@BoogieBoyBronx 3 года назад
Subjective opinion
@82godoy
@82godoy 3 года назад
New ISF needs to be 5.0 aspirated
@qnunyuh8417
@qnunyuh8417 3 года назад
I think the car is "ok" although putting an F motor in an F sport takes away from the"Fs" if someone gave me one I'd take it, but I wouldn't trade my F for an F sport
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
I agree it’s not worth the upgrade unless you wanted the newer technology and features but to pay that much for only that doesn’t make sense coming from and F
@2ZZGE100
@2ZZGE100 3 года назад
​@@jaimehurtado356 It also does not have a lot of the F hardware. Just the RCF 472 HP engine and that is it. It is still using the IS350 8 speed auto. Does not have all of the other bells and whistles, which is why it is not an ISF and an F-Sport.
@inosurrender8327
@inosurrender8327 3 года назад
I’d wait maybe until they release a new IS F if that’ll happen anytime soon 🙏 I heard it could be a twin turbo V8
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
If that comes out I’m getting it forsure! Lol
@TheOlds350rocket
@TheOlds350rocket 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado3564.0 tt
@zhijiawang5304
@zhijiawang5304 3 года назад
Maybe the new ISF will have the new TT4.0v8 that Lexus is developing, don't know how long we have to wait. but I'm glad they are making this is500. even though it's not a full-on F car, I think it will drive better than the old isf. at least 08-10 model. maybe better than base RCF which has a Frankenstein chassis and drive like a boat
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
I hope it does drive better! Lexus needs to focus more on the performance then just the engine, the don’t seem to car about weight either
@violaw8149
@violaw8149 3 года назад
Pls do a video about the fog light delete for the F
@Andrew-kr2qg
@Andrew-kr2qg 3 года назад
Not sure how long you’ve owned your ISF & M3, but could you compare and contrast the maintenance requirements “or” cost of ownership? Basically, are the reputations for reliability legit, or are they exaggerated. Thanks
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
The newer bmw M cars are much more reliable then older bmws and the Isf has its share of issues just like any car
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Repairs on BMW M cars are more expensive and often times need mechanics specialized in m cars
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
The battery replacement on my F80 M3 is $1,800 and can only be bought from the dealer it required coding so other battery’s can’t be used that’s an example of where bmw is more expensive but that is only the M models
@Andrew-kr2qg
@Andrew-kr2qg 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 oh, wow, thanks for sharing! Just discovered your channel today, so I’ll watch some of your other videos for more details.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
@@Andrew-kr2qg no problem thanks for checking out the channel! With that being said the M3 had way more potential then any Lexus will, just depends what you want out of a car. My M3 is at 550whp over 600 to the crank and will only get faster
@s2kgpwcrlee126
@s2kgpwcrlee126 3 года назад
They will eventually drop ISF so just wait I'll probably lease IS500 and wait
@xavierespana3011
@xavierespana3011 3 года назад
Damn I was thinking you could buy one and then tune it with a turbo or super charger after owning it for a few years
@GohanBurner
@GohanBurner 3 года назад
I have an ISF and cannot afford a new one. So...for the sake of my car's value...I hope they DO NOT release another ISF.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Same lol I wouldn’t be able to afford a new Isf would probably be close to 75K
@petergazarek4238
@petergazarek4238 3 года назад
NEW LEXUS IS500 😀👍🏻
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Great looking car!
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks 3 года назад
Yes you'd be dumb to trade obviously same same but 3X price ISF
@IReahpZz
@IReahpZz 3 года назад
So you think a non f is gonna be 70-80k 😂 you're high. Cars gonna be mid 50s to start more than likely there trying to undercut the 340m
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks 3 года назад
@@IReahpZz $20k multiplied by 3 is $60k ok? When you take in account otd and interest you paying every bit of that or more. I'm definitely high every minute of the day 🤣
@IReahpZz
@IReahpZz 3 года назад
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks can't find an isf for under 30 without 150k miles on em now. Better interior, no miles and better tech. Well worth it. Or wait for the new f that's soon to come
@IReahpZz
@IReahpZz 3 года назад
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks also assuming someone with an m4 and an isf modified is making payments? 😂
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks 3 года назад
@@IReahpZz you better check harder my area ones with around 100k miles go $20k 2010+ are premium of course. Where do you search? I picked up one beginning of year 08 179k miles $12.5k deals are everywhere. I've literally bought 6 all under $15k 5 of those being great to me. If you wanna go to a dealership get one with under 60k I can see paying that higher 20s but please be smarter
@theylive2749
@theylive2749 3 года назад
Dude the IS500 is almost 4,000 pounds - like 50 pounds less than the GSF. The GSF gets same mpg and 0-60 times. It’s going to flop.
@ewwitsdavid97
@ewwitsdavid97 3 года назад
3800 pounds actually
@theylive2749
@theylive2749 3 года назад
Grown man Issues wrong. It’s reported to be 3,900-3,980.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Yeah I believe it’s close to 4,000 that’s a heavy car Lexus never takes weight into consideration it’s a shame
@Kona61
@Kona61 3 года назад
Lol the G80 M3 weighs just as much...
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
@@Kona61 yeah it does that’s one of the complaints from the bmw community, they also offer awd tho and both auto or manual
@davidtranmedia5112
@davidtranmedia5112 3 года назад
I like it, I welcome it. But I'm waiting for the actual F variant. This just means that a really really fast F is coming. But for now. I'm buying a CT5V BLACKWING. OR A CHARGER HELLCAT REDEYE. For basically the same price for alittle higher. Then add 3k in mods and make an extra 200hp. Vs Lexus 20k+ for for supercharger kit and gain about the same. That's the only thing I hate about Lexus. No Performance shops no aftermarket part. Like all the other brands. We have 1 choice and thats it.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
The Blackwing is sick! I still need to do more research on it but looks great
@davidtranmedia5112
@davidtranmedia5112 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 bro 4 door. All the tech gm has to offer. New and improve lt4 6.2 v8 supercharged. With a 6 speed cant beat it.
@davidtranmedia5112
@davidtranmedia5112 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 even a CT4V BLACKWING is gonna be sick with that v6 twin turbo available manual too
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
@@davidtranmedia5112 CTSs always sound good too
@davidtranmedia5112
@davidtranmedia5112 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 but great car nothing less. Glad Lexus is moving up
@TheOlds350rocket
@TheOlds350rocket 3 года назад
You won't be able to tune it plus doesn't have the track stuff the isf has..
@PResmejor
@PResmejor 3 года назад
Ever thought of porting the manifold and throttle body? To make more power ?
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
No never, I don’t think I would do it
@PResmejor
@PResmejor 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 i seen some people port their throttle body from 76mm to 80mm and gain around 21whp. Which is alot. The manifold i would expect to add alot more.
@TheOlds350rocket
@TheOlds350rocket 3 года назад
@@PResmejor rr racing tested it and it wasn't worth it lol
@PResmejor
@PResmejor 3 года назад
@@TheOlds350rocket i wouldn't just go off what they say tbh(i hear that they contradict themselves). I like to see things for myself and test it out. I seen an is350 port his lower intake manifold and gained around 13whp with just the lower. I would assume the IS-F would be more since it's a big 5.0.
@nascarniko2244
@nascarniko2244 3 года назад
Good review man
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Thank you 🙏🏼
@jaz5059
@jaz5059 3 года назад
50 kgs heavier and no torque vectoring
@Caymanec
@Caymanec 3 года назад
It has! Lsd
@eijiroinouye4115
@eijiroinouye4115 3 года назад
Can an IS 500 F Sport Performance be converted to an ISF?? Is it possible or too different?
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
It’s definitely possible it wouldn’t be too difficult
@001spring
@001spring 3 года назад
You're not getting an ISF. This IS500 will be limited and probably only be sold for a few years, before they transition to EV's imo. And I predict this IS500 will start around 60k
@gtojay9607
@gtojay9607 3 года назад
Dammit!! Now I'm going to have to sell my charger!! Would you trade in the M3 for the new IS500?
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Hell no lol my M3 has way more power, faster trans, lighter, better breaks interior etc doesn’t compare
@gtojay9607
@gtojay9607 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 🤣🤣🤣, Yeah I didn't think you would.. Styling wise the M3 looks so much more aggressive too!! But glad Lexus is moving in cool direction.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
@@gtojay9607 same I agree I’m glad they didn’t abandon the Lexus enthusiast they could have easily not gave us anything
@dreday77764
@dreday77764 3 года назад
Jaime Hurtado What about reliability?
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
@@dreday77764 reliability only takes you so far when you want a performance car and the new bmws m cars are proving to be very reliable
@retrokid62
@retrokid62 3 года назад
Yea man trade it in for the is 500. It’s newer and maybe has way more potential
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
I really doubt it, no one can crack the 17+ Lexus F ecu yet which is the same one that’s in the is500 but for the enthusiast sake I hope it is better!
@dettalife9226
@dettalife9226 2 года назад
2gen IS is the best tho no🧢
@CAPERCHRONICLES
@CAPERCHRONICLES 3 года назад
Lexis is God
@xxraverxxonxtacy
@xxraverxxonxtacy 3 года назад
Yea I would just wait it out till the real deal comes out.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Let’s all hope it does come out!
@xxraverxxonxtacy
@xxraverxxonxtacy 3 года назад
@@jaimehurtado356 Do you think this IS500 replaced the GS model (discontinued) in their lineup?
@Earache.
@Earache. 3 года назад
Welllllll I wouldn’t say it’s a 3is I’d say this is a whole new generation
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
It’s a 3is facelift same chassi same interior just different looks and its not that different from the 3is
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
And aside from the IS500 the rest of the f sports of this style have the same engine as the first 3is
@Earache.
@Earache. 3 года назад
I had no idea the used the same chassis but I agree with you, they barely changed the interior, the Powertrain is definitely the same in the base models, but a facelift might be an understatement. We just have to wait and see if Lexus ever mentions it either being their 4th gen is or their 3rd gen facelift
@be4stm3
@be4stm3 3 года назад
What year is your ISF?
@be4stm3
@be4stm3 3 года назад
My brother has a 2018 GSF. And that V-8 sounds awesome with gt haus exhaust he has on it! Eventually, he wants to supercharge it!
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
@@be4stm3 nice! GSF are really nice specially when supercharged it will be beast! Mines a 2008
@darrenthomas5541
@darrenthomas5541 3 года назад
Correct it’s not a true F model.
@samandrew5643
@samandrew5643 3 года назад
we was thinking that they will finally after all those years something to compete with the new M3 and the RS4 like a V6 twin turbo or V8 super charger like you can spend 7k in the old IS-F and get the rr-racing super charged and get 750hp from the stock engine like there is a lot of potential in this engine but noo lexus don't want to us it like they did us so dirty it was a cheap come back in my opinion like they just took the same engine that they have and put it in the “is500” we were hoping that they will finally compete against BMW M3 with a TwinTurbo engine but no they just put Engine that they already use without even tuning it and 🎩a new car And another thing that makes me mad that they use the weirdest name ever F sport performance like what the fuck is even a spot performance there is only an f sport that is like a sport kit or the car or the F that is a fully different anima, But still, I'm happy that they bring it back, of course, it will not kill any M3 or RS4 anytime soon like it's the middle child like it always have been :3 like the old IS-F but still cool to know that there is a performance car that even after 10+ years it will still run like new ❤️
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Yeah definitely, I think for the most part everyone feels the same way. It’s nice to have the is500 but we were all hoping for more or something groundbreaking like they were saying not the same engine they have been using for years. And I also don’t get the is500 f sport performance name it was way to long and confusing I think just is500 would have been okay
@mixmixktv6021
@mixmixktv6021 3 года назад
I think the IS 500 has Torsen LSD.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Yeah it does I mentioned that in the video 👍🏼 that’s a nice feature
@CAPERCHRONICLES
@CAPERCHRONICLES 3 года назад
The F interior is tacky
@patricksoon85
@patricksoon85 3 года назад
It's also got nuluxe seats. Not real leather or alcantara.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Oh man I didn’t know that
@Kona61
@Kona61 3 года назад
I like the NuLuxe honestly. Would never know the difference if I wasn’t told.
@patricksoon85
@patricksoon85 3 года назад
@@Kona61 Yeah I'm sure it wears better but I can definitely tell real leather from fake. It also doesn't breathe as well on hot days. It's a major reason I haven't considered Tesla vehicles.
@Kona61
@Kona61 3 года назад
@@patricksoon85 Well, the Lexuses have ventilated seats, so I wouldn't care.
@kibo5000F
@kibo5000F 3 года назад
おはようございます。 LEXUS ISF 👍😊
@Jonathan-xn3rp
@Jonathan-xn3rp 3 года назад
I’ll give you 19k for yours
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
$18,000
@fixhead562
@fixhead562 3 года назад
4th gen IS
@meterdoogles
@meterdoogles 3 года назад
The transmission is the same 8 speed as before. Read the press release they issued
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
That’s unfortunate but not surprised it’s a decent 8 speed
@alexaquino1399
@alexaquino1399 3 года назад
All that weight and power with no stopping power I wonder how that's gonna play out
@natnut2008
@natnut2008 3 года назад
IS500 F-Sport has bigger brakes front and rear and improved brake cooling. And also larger but lighter 2 piece brake rotors to reduce unsprung weight.
@fixhead562
@fixhead562 3 года назад
@@natnut2008 people swear it has to say Brembo to be "legit" like bro these companies invest tens and hundreds of millions in technology/engineering like come on my guy Lexus knows what they are doing lol
@arabiggy12345
@arabiggy12345 3 года назад
Love the video and love the car but the new is500 is a 4th generation not 3rd
@geoh8241
@geoh8241 3 года назад
Lexus IS500 fsport will be 60-70k
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
That’s too much smh
@jodypalacois
@jodypalacois 3 года назад
It wouldnt be anything over 60-65k fully loaded since the IS is a lower end model than the RC F. 70k is approaching GS F range (RIP) and that car was built with many more features than the IS. This car is going to be in the 50s to mid 60s for the most part; I'm predicting
@Caymanec
@Caymanec 3 года назад
Definitely not! Is350 cost 43k, so is500 around 55k
@josegonzales8445
@josegonzales8445 3 года назад
Not happy with how they took the F engine and put it in this car and put fsport on it basically ruining the real Fs imo.
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
I definitely think it takes away from the current RCF/GSF specially if they price it much lower most ppl will go for the IS500 then those
@josegonzales8445
@josegonzales8445 3 года назад
Ruins all the Fs rarity now they’ll prolly produce a lot of these.
@nemesisc4926
@nemesisc4926 3 года назад
They may put a TTv8 in the true F if the come out with one
@alwaysiyi272
@alwaysiyi272 3 года назад
This means that they are going to elevate the F brand, I don't see how people see this as a bad thing
@josegonzales8445
@josegonzales8445 3 года назад
If you own a F you’d understand they should of left that V8 in the real F line up and make it better with the new Fs.
@nicholaspinedo9675
@nicholaspinedo9675 3 года назад
first
@jaimehurtado356
@jaimehurtado356 3 года назад
Damn you beat me lol
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