Tragic Details Found In Buddy Holly's Autopsy Report 

I remember that day-turning on the radio and hearing the dreadful news. I was 14 years old.

Yup, holly was a great influence

Buddy was my favorite person that died in the crash but Ritchie valens was great too.

On his grave, his name is spelled Holley -- not Holly. I never knew that.

@@humboldthammer yeah his last name was actually Holley instead of Holly.

Buddy was before my time , by 5 years. I remember Jim Croce just released a Hit album. Bad , bad Leroy brown , a smash. And then he's smashed in a small Plane crash. Same sanario, some people never rewarded for their talent.

Agreed!

Nah. Good riddance r4pist.

I feel the same way about Stevie Ray Vaughn. Some people are just old souls.

@@banrap9369 if that’s not true then you’re going to be in trouble.

That's the worst. I've said things that later came true that I deeply regret. There is no feeling like that, even when you know the person knew you didn't mean it.

If i remember rightly buddy's wife told him that what happened to the guys that day was not waylons fault and that buddy would want him to forgive himself. I hope they're all together in heaven again

Survivors guilt is a very hard thing to get through. Believe me, I know.

@@iamgroot6965 yeah, but everyone says that

22 year old banter w Waylon

To David tingley, so with that was said. Buddy had a reel to reel in New York with a lot of new songs and Ritchie only had three singles out, too. They would have given us so many new hits, for sure.

@@thewenik6876 Only TWO singles by Ritchie were released in his lifetime: Come On, Let's Go b/w Framed ; and then La Bamba b/w Donna. Everything else was released posthumously. It's frightening to think that Ritchie's career was only about 6 months long. He was signed to Del Fi in late May of 1958, first recording session was in July. First Single released in September, the next in November and then he was gone Feb. '59. They rushed his first LP out for March of 1959, though it had already been announced it was coming, it didn't hit shelves until March.

@@That_AMC_Guy Sorry. I was with his wrong name. 🤭

@@thewenik6876 Fast Freight b/w Big Baby Blues was originally issued under Arvee Allens, but I'm not 100% sure it was issued in his lifetime. If it was, why wasn't it released as a Ritchie Valens single? As far as I can tell, the final single was issued in 1959, but as to what month? I have never been able to figure out. I'm assuming since it wasn't credited to Ritchie Valens, it did not. LATER Pressings WOULD have the credits changed to reflect that it was a Ritchie Valens single.

@@That_AMC_Guy Sorry for this. But do get that there may not have ever been a single with the name of Ritchie Valens; only Arvee Allens.

And miscarrying when she heard the news

@@misst.e.a.187 But he had a great chance of being elected to Congress

@@misst.e.a.187 experts estimate that the plane hit the ground at least 170 mph 😴😢

Maria was not pregnant. That is a lie. Plus Buddy had already contacted a divorce lawyer. Things were in motion that are not public knowledge. Elena is and has always been in it for money.

@@signeericks5951 A speed like that probably killed them instantly

@Stabswache way before his time. No doubt about that.

The Beatles loved him ,on of the biggest and most influencial bands ever.

Which is also why we can only imagine what the world as well as the music world would be like today had he lived!

Still exposing his abvses too

I'm 30 and grew up with him and the rest because of my parents. I'll always remember them.

Ditto!

I couldn't agree more! Playing the complete Buddy Holly 6 LP box set as I type :)

I was born in 79, his and ritchie's music is so powerful to me. I always play it to my young children. They will live forever ❤️

Same here!!! I have all his music, have the movie THE BUDDY HOLLY STORY, have seen several live theatre shows about him, and let me tell ya, everyone was on their feet just like we really were at his concerts!!! I was born in August 1961 in Lubbock, Texas, but started listening to his music by 11 years old!!! He definitely has my heart for his music❤️❤️🎤🎸🎹

WHY in the H would they go to your grandmas house and play music ??? it doesn't make any sense.....

@@vikeirishman maybe they had a nice garage. Oh, vike -- you might want to see if you can find the movie about the Buddy Holly Story. It starred Gary Busey.

@@phlotographer I'll look into it - Thanks !!

For years, people spread the rumor that Buddy Holly played at the Community Hall in the thriving metropolis of Vallican, British Columbia. (Population at the time would've been like....3) I once got into an argument with a Supervisor I worked with as he was always trying to prove how smart he was. He claimed Buddy played the Vallican hall in 1961 or 1962. I burst out laughing. I asked him many, many times if he wanted to recant that statement which only made him angrier. Should've seen his face when I told him that Buddy HOLLY died February of '59. What everybody confuses him for was we had a local musician who used the stage name of BUDDY MARR, who had curly hair and dark glasses (because he was blind) and they toured around our little armpit of the world through most of the 1960's. Buddy Marr was actually Nick Keraieff.

@@That_AMC_Guy well, I have travelled all of BC, born in BC (Okanagan), raised in BC (W. Kootenay) but have to admit I have never heard of Vallican. Somewhere bigger might be of help although I will check out Google maps etc. Always nice to meet up with another true westcoaster. Always had to chuckle when someone from Winnipeg said that they lived out west. Well, blow me down. Go one direction after New Denver and hit the Arrow Lake and there is I would be or later go the other direction and stop at the Pulp Mill and don't run me over. Long time ago though. Delivered the Nelson Daily News for 7 years as a kid. Just had not heard of Vallican but have driven the Slocan Lake highway many times as well as many crossings of the Monashee toward the Okanagan.

Probably punk But not Rock

@@toonarcadeentertainment5828 Not rock?!? He brought a Texas element into rock and roll that was different than Chuck Berry, Elvis, etc. I think the addition of Buddy Holly's DNA into rock music changed the soundscape from that point on.

That's how I learned about Elvis. Never mind - I was in Air Force Basic Training at that time.

Sam Cooke…another tragic loss. He was before my time, but I knew about him because my dad liked to listen to “oldies”. I always wondered why Sam Cooke didn’t produce more music. Then one day I found out that he was shot and died. Much later, I found out the whole story and I cried. No wonder police say that domestic violence calls are the worst! RIP Sam Cooke and RIP Marvin Gaye!!

@@YvetteArby it's really messed up the way Sam Cooke and Marvin Gaye died. Both died tragically. Sam Cooke's death is still controversial to this day. Was he set up to be robbed? We will probably never know.

That song sucks

From a perspective of how today’s world operates it seems like your times were the best.

God bless you

I was 2 years old the Day the Music Died. My favorite song then was "Come On Let's Go" by Ritchie Valens. I still have the 45 rpm record of the song that my mom bought me. Still playable, but scratchy. I liked Buddy's and Big Bopper's music also. (Jan Griffiths).

😊

I didn't know that. That's so sad.

@@leesashriber5097 his son is alive I think

@@thebeatlesandqueen8817 Jay Perry Richardson died August 21, 2013.

When his father’s body was exhumed, that very son was there to see his father in person for the first time. Fortunately, the body was in pristine condition

@Nigel -- pretty sure so they were checking the body because of an investigation. think there was a rumor of foul play involving a gun owned by buddy holly or something but it was disproven. because his body was shown to have blunt trauma from getting thrown out a plane no bullet wounds but holly's gun was fired once... mystery is nobody knows why.

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Its unfair that so many old time celebrities got away with r4pe

@@banrap9369 he never raped anyone.

@@samanthacole4395 ur going around this whole comment section trying to convince me this guy doesnt have accusers when they are all in print. Lmao. Celebrity worshiper 🐑

You're a liar! Nobody has ever accused Buddy of doing any of those things.

@@rsmith8434 it is indeed.

I know he would

38 here I also listen to Buddy Holly. Never knew he died this young.

We know what your parents like to do.

The Big Bopper was a DJ. Not sure what you are saying?

@@StanSwan all into music and still a tragic loss.

@@StanSwan He also sang.

@@lyndaoneill7813 He did indeed!

the recipe for the BEATLES is in Buddy's music. 2 years in the Rock & Roll tin pan alley, and still, his influence is felt. whenever I hear 'Here comes the Sun' by George Harrison, I can hear Buddy. I'm not the first to point that out, but y' can't help it. when George sort of whispers the title, he's doing Holly, whether he realized it or not, and I'm not making an analogy to 'My sweet Lord'.

@@rman52 It's a pretty subjective thing. Genius isn't strictly defined as pure technical skill.

@@rman52 none of the people you mentioned could write a song that moved millions at 20 years old. Buddy Holly was a genius.

@@rman52 STOP CALLING HIM A POP STAR, IM TIRED OF SEEING IT, BUDDY HOLLY WAS A ROCK STAR

@@rman52 wth is the difference

Buddy Holly set the stage for John Lennon and the Beatles.

Amen.

He influenced the Early Beatles I would love someone to do Holly's songs with Beatles later sound

Agreed!

You’re only saying that because he died so young. The same phenomenon happened with 2pac, Kurt Cobaine, Elvis, Biggie… etc All mediocre artists who died young. If you want to have a legacy in the music industry you just have to die young

He didn’t know what hit him.

Rock ‘n’ roll, which is been in ICU since Elvis‘s entry in the army early 1958, died that day in 1959. It wasn’t until February 9, 1964 when the Beatles first appeared on the Ed Sullivan show that rock ‘n’ roll came back to life. This time it stayed alive.

Rip legend

@@shackdaddy7106 I don't know that I agree with that. Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys is another musical genius, imo. He influenced the Beatles and when he came up with Pet Sounds, that was what sent the Beatles into doing Sgt Pepper's. I mean, I love Buddy Holly and will listen to his music for as long as I'm alive and I think The Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens were both good but we lost someone that would have continued to change music in losing Buddy.

@@kfemme68 Brian Wilson was great but he was nowhere near what Lennon and McCartney were. He had too many issues in his life. Drug addiction, paranoia and an abusive father. Pet sounds was inspired by Rubber Soul. So Brian Wilson was influenced by the Beatles. And then Sergeant Pepper was inspired by pet sounds. So they were trying to outdo one another for a while there. But in the end the Beatles won. I will say this about the Beach boys. They were the only thing that was keeping rock ‘n’ roll alive at all from 1961 to 1963. And I do mean the only thing. But when the Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan and started the British invasion that’s when rock ‘n’ roll really took off again. And this time it did not die in a plane crash.

Hendrix did quite a lot too in a relatively short amount of time, not as short as Holly but still

@@nugsymalone1247, I don't disagree, but I give the edge to Holly, he even inspired the likes of the Beatles, The Stones and many other rock stars, again not saying Hendrix didn't provide his share.

13 huh, just his type

@@banrap9369, coming from somebody that has never met his father.

@@JMK1998 lmao i really cant tell who ur reffering to, if its me I WISH i never met that b4sturd.

Imagine if he lived through his day. Then met Beatles during their Get Back recording (as shown in Peter Jackson documentary). Jamming together, alongside Billie Preston. How magical moment could that be?

Is it true that Paul McCartney owns the publishing to Buddy Holly's music??

@@rucianapollard4057 yes he does and he used to do a buddy holly festival every year. Makes sense when he owns the rights to the great man’s music.

I'm so sorry 💔

@@momiamarichman7527 thank you

Sorry for your loss.

@@kathp6689 thank you

So sorry for your pain

I have to agree. Buddy was such a great performer.

Last gig on 2nd month 2nd day

A full autopsy was never performed. There really was no need. I have read it several times, it is only 1 page long.

I believe they were all already dead in the plane before it hit the ground due to impact including Valens. They didn’t have much time to feel anything.

Being pregnant and finding out your husband died that would lead to losing the baby

There are pictures of crash online. Not smithereens

Buddy Holly...The Big Bopper...Ritchie Valens...all were thrown from the plane..their bodies were on the ground (Big Bopper was on the other side of the fence)...the pilot was crushed within the plane wreckage...I have also read the Waylan Jennings regretted(to say the least) about what he said in retort to (I think to Buddy Holly) about crashing...I read it as Buddy said to Waylan "I hope the bus freezes..(cuz it constantly broken down in winter weather) ..Waylan retorted back saying "I hope the plane crashes" ...

Hello Lara, I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it?

Really? When did he buy it?

@@2degucitas Paul McCartney bought the publishing rights to Buddy Holly’s songs way back in 1976.

♥️

Idk if it still true or if his kids sold them but Michael Jackson owned Paul's earlier music. And he wasn't interested in selling.

@@GingerMaster6875 Jackson bought the majority of the Beatles publishing rights in the 80s. He was in so much debt to Sony that he sold 50% of those rights over to them in 2008. Several years after his death Sony bought the rest of the rights from MJ’s estate. McCartney then sued and reached a settlement with Sony to regain at least a portion of his original copyrighted material. Clear as mud?

Oh that's beautiful!

She lost the baby too.

@@absolutelyalice1754 Horrible the description of what they found 😕 Holly's body.. How frightening.

@@samthunders3611 Look at 2:37. That's Buddy in white on the ground. His head is exposed to the right.

@@rotunda57 can't see ugh.dont want to

The Beatles didnt off the ground until thdh were 22

I think “immortal” is a bit of a stretch. He was an entertainer.

Hello Brett, I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it?

Elvis is the pioneer of RnR!! Buddy didn’t release anything until 1957. Elvis released his first songs in the summer of 1954. Elvis released the first RnR album in 1955. Even Chuck Berry didn’t release his first song, Maybelline, until June of 1955.

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The Buddy Holly Story was full of inaccuracies. The surviving band members wrote about their disappointment in the movie.

About the most memorable line from that whole movie. 💔

@@lauramalek3128 That movie was loaded with great lines and great talent.

@@mt.shasta6097 Absolutely right. I must've seen it in theaters at least 20 times.

Yup

Don't forget the other 3 men who lost their lives

Crashing a plane at 170 mph straight into the ground and you're telling me everybody didn't feel a thing? Sure.... buddy. 😏

@@MrMJmusicLover Study “spacial disorientation” as it pertains to IFR flight. You obviously don’t understand it and have no knowledge whatsoever how the inner ear works. You can’t see the ground. 170 to zero is instant lights out……buddy

@@nordicpride9708 You said they didn't feel a thing...... well crashing into the ground at 170 mph isn't exactly like landing your head on a pillow. You're gonna feel something, might be a split second, but you're still gonna feel something.

@@MrMJmusicLover Pain in the nervous system doesn’t work that way. If you flip the switch in a millisecond in the medical field it is referred to as “died instantly”. Many studies show no pain is felt at certain velocities due to your brain being “instantly”eviscerated. The Brian feels the pain through the bodies nervous system. No brain no pain.

@@nordicpride9708 So is that why they tell you to put your head between your legs in an emergency of the possiblity of a crash? So that your head can be cracked opened like an eggshell and you won't feel a thing? I heard that was a myth and not the real reason they want you to put your head between your legs. The real reason to do that is to prevent your head and neck from whiplash from the G forces.

I seee you threw cliff in there. Randy was a Legendary as well.

@@erikolsen1333 him too

Jim Croce, John Denver, Ricky Nelson,Patsy Cline

Sam Cooke and Patsy Cline as well.

Don't forget Stevie Ray Vaughn

If you ever find yourself in Lubbock there is a very cool Buddy Holly museum there too. Small, but a lot of very cool stuff, including the Fender Strat that made the trip on the bus and waited at the other end for an owner that never arrived.

Well put there by your father

For a VFR rated pilot, when in doubt don't. My Dad was a pilot, he only flew light planes, but emphasized if you see the weather isn't what it needs to be, stay on the ground, or you can get yourself killed. He only had a VFR rating. IFR, or I think it's called IMC, is a different story, and a experienced pilot with an IFR rating could've probably successfully flown that route. Who knows, perhaps the pilot got a little cocky, wanted to pick up some extra cash, and fly some celebrities around gave him the incentive to take this unnecessary risk.

The guy was one of the worst pilots who ever lived. Only JFK JR. was worse!

I always figured it was ice on the wings causing a stall on climb out. And yes, the young pilot was probably 'star struck'.@@kevinmalone3210

60 years ago and you still think of this??

@@vikeirishman why not? to we 'elderly' it was just yesterday.

@@rotkatzeredcat4284 - that sentence doesn't make any sense... your age IS showing

@@vikeirishman when something moves you, you will always remember it like it was yesterday, no matter how much time has passed. lighten up and don't be so rude

@@vikeirishman it makes perfect sense.

Karma

@@banrap9369 that’s enough!😡

So erotic

@@banrap9369 For what? Buddy was, by and large, a good kid. He had a kind heart. He was going to form a recording studio of his own and take budding artists under his wing. He planned to help Ritchie Valens take his career further, after the winter tour.

Hello Amber, I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it?

Who’s?

@@jeandixson5610 Paul McCartney owns the rights to Buddy Holly's music and this catalog

I heard Micheal Jackson and his estate own buddy Holly's music,the beatles including Paul McCartney, Eminem, and other musician contracts and songs.

@@alexcholagh8330 no Paul McCartney owns the rights to Buddy Holly songs and Carl Perkins the bottom back in 1983 I believe so Michael Jackson own the rights to Sly and the Family Stone songs

@@josearriola3087 Michael Jackson and his estate does own the beatles and there music contracts. Michael did bought various artists music and there music rights and contracts from 1981 till his death. The Beatles including Paul McCartney,Elvis and Eminem are one of his famous possessions, but I'm pretty sure he owns or partially owns buddy Holly as well. McCartney himself owns other musician record deals as well same with Micheal Jackson and his estate.

That's generous

@@2degucitas if it’s true that was a great way to honor Holly by McCartney

Yup

Respect Paul McCartney for this generous gesture in honor of the day the music died.

Oh wow...now thats a story to be told right there. 👍

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@@jessicawiley5797 Perhaps. Where and when do you think this may be the case? I get friend suggestions all the time. Most of whom l have no idea who they are.

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@@jessicawiley5797 I doubt that you know me from anywhere. I'm a Journeyman Electrician in Houston Texas. I was a military brat. I Grew up and went to School in Germany.

The same happened to Valens, Richardson, and the pilot, not just Buddy Holly.

@@A_Final_Hit no shi Sherlock

So what would you expect from a plane crash

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@@jessicawiley5797 Don’t think so not sure why I would be on your friends list.

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He didnt write Raining In my Heart

I wonder why she didn't go to the funeral or at least visited his grave though? Then again maybe those aren't the facts

Many grieve in their own way. She had also just had a miscarriage.

Probably couldn’t bear to…..made his death real.

Yeah

I’m not even sure if any of them felt that. Peterson flew the plane into the ground, after midnight, in a snow squall. It is possible none of them ever knew what happened. Just “BAM!”…done. One would hope anyway.

@@kato64 Wow. I have such a hard time conceiving of sudden "nothingness". Death scares most, if not all of us. We pray, or at least want to believe, in some sort of life after death, whether that is logical or not. So much of what we are is ties to the physical brain. The loss of self-awareness, or consciousness is a concept that we, or at least I, can not conceive of or imagine, nor do I want to.

Being alive one moment and facing your demise in an instant is very hard to comprehend most definitely.

@GetDatPromo Also, I want to apologize, this is not a proper forum for philosophical discussion.

Yes

Sorry for writing you, just out of curiosity your page come up on my suggested friend lists so I was just wondering if I knew you from somewhere???

Weird as I heard his face was completely in tact

Sad any of you believe rumors.

Wow if any of you look at the pictures you can see the big bopper was thrown over the fence,and Ritchie valens was in the black coat on the ground visible in close proximity with Holly and take a few minutes to read the faa report which is online the pilot was only one in the plane still and I agree 170 mph into the frozen ground is definitely lights out if not dead immediately at ko'd

"Holley" was the actual spelling of his last name. It was shortened to "Holly" when Buddy started performing.

Well then you don’t truly love them then. There’s absolutely no excuse whatsoever. . She’s a gold digger

People grieve and deal with death differently and for his wife who had also lost their unborn child, this was a huge blow. She didn't have to publicly grieve for her love to be true. No one does.

@@andyrob3259 Agreed.

@@andyrob3259 What absolute ignorance. For your own good, don't ever seek employment in the field of mental health. You will be sued into oblivion for incompetence.

@@andyrob3259 Maria has said that if she would have gone on that tour with him then he wouldn't have gotten on that plane. She blames herself for his death. Like Curwin Sphere said people handle death and grieve differently. Some people can't handle funerals. I didn't go to my great aunt's funeral because I wanted to remember her like she was before she died. I went to her viewing though. Even though I didn't go to her funeral, it doesn't mean I didn't love her less.

And "Running Bear" for Johnny Preston.

@@jerrybrownell3633 Yep-he did the sound effects also,on the record.

@@peterpiper482 -J.P Richardson and George Jones did the Indian sounds on the record.

Yup

Richie Valens career only lasted about 9 months

@@rucianapollard7098 Richie was of one song note and was more to Mexico than USA. Holly's work went onto influence many... Richie very little. *Earthquake compared to a little Tremer. A Tremer that could not be turned into an Earthquake due to Nationality.

SRV died in a helicopter.

@@SydneyGreenstreet1227 I know….so did Troy Gentry.Still aircraft related.

...Really? Someone needs to explain that to you?

Too young in my opinion to be flying in such conditions, not enough experience. But they were all young

WW2 pilots probably weren't much older if you think about it.

@@jeffgordon8346 the weather conditions was brutal. Blizzard type weather. The little plane could not tolerate that condition.

A British band called The Quarrymen changed their name to The Silver Beatles, as an homage to The Crickets-Holly's band. Later, they dropped the "Silver." The rest is History. The Crickets are often thought of as the first Modern rock band. Before them, it was all Doo-Wop.

True!!

Yup, and the drummer for the crickets is so underrated