Trail Etiquette (Episode 1)

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I would like to test the waters to see about doing a random series inside the channel of Off-Road trail etiquette, concerns surrounding land closures, and Offroad issues and ways we can better our Offroad community together, all based off the moab area. Let me know in the comments what you all think as well as topics or concerns you have. Thank you everyone for watching and supporting us.
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@adamdeibel772 6 месяцев назад

Do not apologize for educating people about coming to Moab and using it responsibly. So much has been lost at the stroke of a pen. Thank you for being a voice of reason and an ambassador for the off road community. I would encourage you to continue to use this platform to help promote respectful off road activities.

@redmondjp 6 месяцев назад

Yes, if anything, we need more videos like this, as so many younger people, or people on vacation there renting a Jeep, just plain don't know this stuff! Preach it, Rory!

@launceherron 6 месяцев назад

Absolutely

@SundayDriver-nw9ki 6 месяцев назад

Amen

@elpatudo3670 6 месяцев назад

@@CrackerBarrelkid=🧠dead 🤡!

@theuglytruth8162 6 месяцев назад

Cry me a river 😂😂😂 over beer cans 😂😂😂 let me remind you of what your so called government is doing to other countries peoples land. Grow up cry Babies.

@brookespears5963 6 месяцев назад

As a USFS employee in SW CO and an avid snowmobiler, back country skier, backpacker, wilderness advocate, dirtbiker. I hate to see things shut down. There is plenty of space for everyone to recreate on OUR public lands without any conflict. I appreciate this video and everything you are doing this is the type of thing we need to keep trails open, to keep users in communication with each other to improve the access and relations with all types of users. There is a place for all of us out there and communication respect and education is the most important thing. Thanks again for doing this, absolute step in the right direction.

@07wrxtr1 6 месяцев назад

So then - what is your personal opinion on the United Nations pushing developed nations to remove public lands? It's simple - open a new tab - lookup the 30x30 and 50x50 land plans. It was literally the FIRST thing Biden did on Day one in office. To me - it's simple - we have globalist controls in place that - wish to move public lands into private ownership so corporations can make $$ and rent them back to the working class at a large profit. Now - of course they love to hide behind: "dude bro, we care about the climate and the environment dude bro..." all while - they push to sabotage companies like Boeing while - going right to Davos. This is nothing but corporate / gov't collusion at the highest levels

@petermartin2643 6 месяцев назад

Very good point of everyone is involved and responsible for the trails, we all need to respect the land and not destroy it.

@Brett_Wilson 6 месяцев назад

This, exactly. Please have respect for the land, use some sense.

@orine-dq6bf 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, but you know what they want to do with a lot of that land? Build solar farms, how is that not messing up/destroying the land???

@BitBuhkit 6 месяцев назад

@@orine-dq6bf lol, pretty sure that group (which has no gov affiliation) wants to build solar farms there.

@Brett_Wilson 6 месяцев назад

@@orine-dq6bf Lunar farms FTW

@Animalstyle69 5 месяцев назад

Yep jackasses ruined It blame RU-vid videos for getting people into off-roading and Overlanding. It’s the same with resort skiing. Everybody wants to do it now. Social media has been the biggest advertisement for outdoor sports.

@chrisricciardiello751 6 месяцев назад

Relative to the off-road community I’m nobody. However, I’ve spent the last 35 years as an environmental professional in the west, the Front Range to be more specific. I’m not preaching, but offering a little experienced-based analysis. Moab receives between 7” and 9” of rain a year. In contrast, the region surrounding Knoxville, TN (another off road destination) receives about 6 times the rainfall. The indigenous landscape of the Moab region literally took thousands of years to slowly and incrementally develop. The moment a vehicle strays from designated trails in Moab and disturbs/destroys a portion of the native landscape, there’s a strong possibility that it will never recover. That’s how sensitive the ecosystem is in the desert. I will always stand for the rights of the people. However, stewardship over sensitive environments is everyone’s responsibility.

@07wrxtr1 6 месяцев назад

Maybe so - maybe you're right - HOWEVER - this is NOT about "saving the land" it's about the creation of natural asset companies and turning the land into yet another commodity the beta male losers on wall street can trade in order to buy the nice car in order then impress the girls. Go look up bidens 30x30 and 50x50 plans. To me it seems like everyone in moab has been living under a rock the past 20+ years. People in Moab - news flash - there are GLOBAL influences called the UN, Blackrock, and Non Governmental organizations that do not want people to own anything - no small businesses, no private land ownership, no owning your own vehicle, etc. To me this is so easy to understand: It's communism being scapegoated as "Dude bro, we're like saving the environment bro"

@landonking4282 6 месяцев назад

The entire off-road community has grown so much in the last decade and with it the problems have grown. Our sport is under threat, mostly from within.

@sfshilo 6 месяцев назад

Correct! And you get absolutely attacked online for voicing this opinion lol. I've been banned and yelled at for simply pointing out that this was not sudden or overnight. Damage was being done, and the BLM closed trails.

@RGProductions 6 месяцев назад

Every sport is being ruined

@Patrick.Weightman 6 месяцев назад

The problems almost entirely fall on SXS users, specifically the rental companies that let tourists rip up the trails before they fly back home and face no consequences.

@outlawbillionairez9780 6 месяцев назад

Blaming others is a waste of time, and only works against you. Ally with every user now. Every tree hugger. Bicyclist. Dirt biker. Mountain biker. Hiker. Camper. Rock climber. Off-road rentals. Build a friendship with the soldiers next to you, or lay on the battlefield, alone. ☮️

@RGProductions 6 месяцев назад

@@outlawbillionairez9780 🏳️‍🌈

@christopherthompson4359 6 месяцев назад

People always bitch and moan after the fact. Stand up to people if they are doing wrong. Thank you Rory for being such a good ambassador for the sport and educating people.

@joschmidt4951 6 месяцев назад

The fact is this has been going on for ages, I am 68 and I recall area closures taking place when I was a kid back in the late 60's. The closures being funded by the Sierra Club and other like groups. Our only chance of being able to roam the outdoors is if we do it responsibly. Stay on the trails, do not litter and take out more than you brought in. Thank you Rory for taking your time to make this video.

@dirtbeard108 6 месяцев назад

all of those are great, but it won't stop those people from taking away access. they don't want anyone using it at all, in any way.

@NarleyAdventures 6 месяцев назад

Black Rock is another concern as they have been awarded stewardship to Gov. and public lands recently.

@advapp 6 месяцев назад

I would also tell you this I'm from California and there's lots of hiking trails and I've seen hiking trails close because of the hikers tearing it up so it's not just off-road community I don't understand why all of us who enjoy the outdoors can't pick up our own trash put our fires out stay on trail so that stays beautiful for everybody else. If this was back in the '60s or '70s this probably wouldn't be that big of an issue but in today's world with more people and the internet you got bigger crowds. More people more problems.

@Psyco913 6 месяцев назад

@@dirtbeard108They will still try to shut down trails, sure, but right now we're giving them easy reasons to point to. If the trails are respected, trash is picked up, and no one goes off trail it makes it harder for them to make a case against us.

@charleswinner6805 6 месяцев назад

Another huge problem here in Southern California is that idiots bring spray paint cans up the hiking trails and spray graffiti all over the rocks, trees and whatever else they feel like. It’s really getting bad, and it’s unfortunate that a small handful of irresponsible people can ruin things for everyone.

@grannyt6819 6 месяцев назад

That dad hand to keep the kid from tipping backwards with the chair, you both did and neither missed a beat and kept right on talking, awesomeness. You guys are great dads.

@BUILDEMTORIDE 6 месяцев назад

being a dad, i seen it coming, and had the same reaction even though it was on a screen, i felt my hand reach out to stop it.

@user-pt7zg3ym8m 6 месяцев назад

A great dad would not have had the kid on this video in the first place.

@robertryan3263 6 месяцев назад

@@user-pt7zg3ym8mlol, hwhut?

@user-nd7zn6cx3f 6 месяцев назад

you are not privy to the circumstances.

@sh-df1bb 6 месяцев назад

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for doing this. You can influence more people than you know! All of our beloved "offroad" youtubers should come together to support this cause because they can reach millions of people thru videos. STAY ON THE TRAIL & STAY OFF THE THROTTLE & PLEASE contribute to Blue Ribbon. Moab/Utah is absolutely the most beautiful place in this country & we want it to stay open for our children & so on.

@thecapturban 6 месяцев назад

Needs to be speach at the OFF ROAD GAMES! Good job Rory!❤

@steven.h0629 6 месяцев назад

According to Matt, and Rory.. the last event was praised for the cleanliness of the trails afterward. They went as far to actually praise everyone in attendance, and made a big deal about it online for weeks afterward. I'd bet they do it again 👍😎✊

@gpnsex 6 месяцев назад

Hey Rory, Ryan here with Stay The Trail Colorado. THANK YOU for putting this out! We have been having our Colorado OHV grant presentations this week, and all of the presenters echo exactly what you are saying. Machine capabilities far exceed driver experience and the amount of new/first-time users and out-of-state visitors who lack the background, knowledge or understanding of different states environments, terrain, and the even fundamentals of off-road driving itself. It is great having your voice (and your guests) as active members of the off-roading community! Thanks again!

@flynbenny 5 месяцев назад

Another Colorado resident, the education Stay The Trail delivers is great. What shocks me as someone new to OHV and 4WD is how many "seasoned" people I come across who have no idea what a MVUM is and why it is important. We have got to do better as a community.

@earlscheets7550 6 месяцев назад

Once they close a trail or area it is usually gone for good, there was a river back home that we use to go hunt and ride 4 wheelers, jeeps, motorcycles, a few bad people were cutting fencing trashing up the area and the whole river was lost to all but boats. Very sad that was 30 ish years ago and my kids will NEVER know the joy and fun that we use to have. Rory, thank you for being a Stewart of the land and fighting to keep the land open.

@SoDogtravels 6 месяцев назад

Love the Dad moment when both grab the chair and not miss a beat.

@MrFandngo 6 месяцев назад

Very well said Rory. My first trip to Moab was 10 years ago and the reckless behavior has gotten way worse in those 10 years. Please keep up the fight.

@stuhayes2010 6 месяцев назад

This is true for hikers, bikers, horse riders, and motorized vehicles. Respect the land, respect each other.

@SpecialAgentJamesAki 6 месяцев назад

12:30 the dad instincts kicked in times two! 😆 you guys rock! 👍

@dezrik 6 месяцев назад

I noticed that too, ninja dads haha!

@stevehetrick2676 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for posting this👍 Keep reminding the public on the right Way.

@JeepAlohaAdventures 6 месяцев назад

No matter where you wheel, there’s always “that guy”. You are so right that we need to police each other to protect against “those guys”.

@timgilbear 5 месяцев назад

And they think that “they deserve to have the freedom to do what they want” in their life.. some will never have the humility to realize what a detriment they are to life, or others, and if we make too many rules, they ignore them. Just like some hunters, fishers, sports fanatics, etc.

@petesanger3041 5 месяцев назад

@timgilbear you're a sheeple

@geraldhenrickson7472 6 месяцев назад

In the 70's the land available to off-road use was shrinking rapidly in many western states. After years of BLM public meetings and hearings we lost much of where we could drive off-road and it brought an end the the "heyday" of off-road recreation . Sadly the multitude of long distance racing events all but disappeared despite the efforts of many interested groups working to keep things alive off the pavement. I am sad to see we are now at the start of another decade of land closure. Thanks for bringing attention to this issue and for spreading the word about the Blue Ribbon Coalition.

@tomhorner9918 6 месяцев назад

Rory, thank you for the PSA. I’m a Tread Lightly member and a strong believer in leave it better than you found it. Even though I’m an East Coaster I love visiting out in your neck of the woods. Hopefully people will get educated and not spoil it for the rest of us.

@Christian76S 6 месяцев назад

Tread lightly is the principle

@oldfart5127 6 месяцев назад

I totally agree with you about taking care of the recreation areas. Each time we as a family I get my kids and grandkids to pick up trash each day. We must take care of our lands and water ways.

@Ethericbikes 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Rory for sharing! We have the same issue in Ontario Canada the lack of respect for our trails is just sad and upsetting! It’s completely unacceptable also! Idk why it’s so hard for people to follow an easy rule!

@shane_7even_ten569 6 месяцев назад

I hear ya bud, they have closed access to so many trails in Ontario because of jerks that tear shit up and leave garbage.

@Tbone-406 6 месяцев назад

Probably because they get drunk and don't care about anyone or anything.

@Ethericbikes 6 месяцев назад

Yup pretty much and every sxs and atv rider can’t respect when our trails are open or closed so so many places are ruined with ruts or fully shut down because of the trail damage!

@shane_7even_ten569 6 месяцев назад

@@Tbone-406 that’s about it, especially the tourist areas of muskoka

@dmclean6003 6 месяцев назад

Alot of people now a days don't care about keeping things clean and not destroy areas everywhere. Wish everyone would treat all recreational areas like it's theirs and you would see a big change in it. Thanks guys for doing your part and then some!

@_Stetsi 6 месяцев назад

FINALLY. Someone who is using the following they have built to raise awareness of what is going on. Good on ya, Rory.

@kendalllewis5449 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Rory. My father-in-law was a forest ranger In Moab, many years ago, and always tried to educate people about this. on many occasions i remember him stopping people and tell them they were not driving on a trail and that it is there responsibility to know before you go. He also mentioned that they pay people to search and find spots that people go where they are not supposed to go and use it in court. thanks again for the video

@07wrxtr1 6 месяцев назад

Except - this is NOT about "saving" the land or any of that old school ideas- it's instead about meeting a broader picture of setting aside 30% of land by the year 2030. You can go search for it since you won't believe me - 30x30 land plan

@Inspector6X2 6 месяцев назад

Rory thanks for taking the time to make this video. People need to be educated and then challenged to behave better or we will all face restrictions in accessing public land. We have to be smarter or be prepared to suffer loss.

@jennifergoodwin5597 6 месяцев назад

Education is critical to keep open space available for future generations to be able to use and use responsibility! Thank you for this video!

@mickeydevey834 6 месяцев назад

Respect for the environment and others is a key element. Thank you Rory

@adamleidy7891 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Rory!! Very well said from a Moab local. I work for the Forest Service in OHV and I’m seeing way too much destruction of our public lands. Thank you for putting this message out there.

@dirtberger4533 6 месяцев назад

Great video, exactly the same problems in Oregon. Glad you reminded me about the Blue Ribbon Foundation. There great.

@Telephony954 6 месяцев назад

We all need to understand that it is up to us to not create problems for ourselves, and to show respect to others. and be careful, so there will be access for the ones coming up behind us. what a gift we have been given, it is up to us to share it respectfully.

@andycaton637 6 месяцев назад

Well done for putting this together and saying what needs to be said! This is a problem the world over. I live in the UK and we have VERY limited options of public access routes for this very reason. Many routes have been abused beyond belief and as a result been closed. Those that are left are over used and abused regularly. We have a small number of private landowners that allow access but only on a limited number of days each year. Our hobby is under threat and unless we all get together and do our part it will be gone forever. Keep up the good work 👍

@keithnichols7926 6 месяцев назад

What is your hobby?

@Mark-cg2bg 6 месяцев назад

Thank you very much. I'm a hiker and have been all over Arches, Canyonlands, Dead Horse Point, going upriver from Moab and into the La Sal. I've never minded vehicles passing on roads/trails designated for that purpose. But the amount of offroad vehicular bushwhacking that goes on in the region is something everyone who loves the area should be concerned about. The only way to make as many people as possible happy is for the business interests and those representing broader environmental concerns to co-operatively work toward a solution that is in their common interest. Rory and others are doing exactly what they should be doing -- dispassionately explaining the issue from their perspective.

@Ragnrok.jeep1972 6 месяцев назад

I am 100% behind all education on off road etiquette! All though I've never been to Moab, it's on my bucket list. Here, in Arizona, we are facing some of the same issues of trail closures. We all, as off road enthusiasts, need to stand together as one voice and let the powers that be know that we do care and want our trails to remain open! Thank you, Rory, for lighting a fuse that will hopefully unite this and the next generation to be more careful with our fragile lands.

@OpieDogie 6 месяцев назад

There are always going to be people who are abusive to the trails and always people who hate people who are enjoying the trails. This is not a new fight and this is a subject that needs to be addressed to inform people. THANKS TRAILMATER

@jamesoncroasdale1517 6 месяцев назад

'Mater x 'Kamel are the new "Trail Avengers". Glad to see you guys advocating unity in conservation and responsibility. I Love your home and am thankful you all care so much about keeping it open for us tourists to come and enjoy.

@jasonpotts6490 5 месяцев назад

Good to hear when you stress how this is a compromise that we need to work together on. Most of us are in the middle on this issue, not at either extreme.

@tedecker3792 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Rory! The community is trying educate new users, but it’s an uphill battle. We went through this with dirt bikes 50 years ago. Hats off to responsible users. Welcome to Moab. The outlaw users? Stay away please. We can’t give the “closers” more ammunition to use against us. PS: loud vehicles suck.

@chrisyork1199 6 месяцев назад

I'm grateful that Rory is bring this to the community and calling out those who are not following the rules this is just adding fuel to the fire of the people trying to shut this down. The fact that he is trying to include other business owner in this just shows how much this concerns him. This is the way he and so many others take care of there family's and there Employees family's this will also effect the restaurants ,campgrounds , Mom and pop shops and the extra revenue generated in this area. Also some of the RU-vid viewers that enjoy watching this content have medical issues where we can't do these things but still get to enjoy it thorough Rory and other channels like his.so pleases step up to this challenge and help these fathers mothers and community out. Also love the channel and what you mike and Sean do.

@zroverz 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for having this discussion. Closures will definitely effect the Moab economy as well as the economy of Utah. Stay on the trails, Be smart, Be respectful.

@iliveinthewoods 6 месяцев назад

It's good to see leaders step up and lead. Thank you.

@jonnylakewood7767 6 месяцев назад

Great job Rory. You'll make a difference!

@ty_thejeepguy 6 месяцев назад

Man, you've taken the words straight out of my mouth! Here in the Black Hills we have the same issues. No one listens to the little guy trying to keep thing open. To see you come forward and say what needs to be said is awesome Rory!

@Dirtydeviantjbyrd 6 месяцев назад

I agree with that 100%. This is a common problem when anyone new goes to a new place. I support you, Rory

@robertfrey3607 6 месяцев назад

Not always. I've traveled all over the country and I always treat the land and place with respect. Being "new" is not an excuse.

@Dirtydeviantjbyrd 6 месяцев назад

@robertfrey3607 I agree, but it's up to everyone to do their part and try to make it better than when you get there. Here in Ohio, that's always a problem on trails. People dumping trash and not caring about the land.

@harryg6013 5 месяцев назад

This is important, thanks for sharing

@dlong250 6 месяцев назад

The little girl is so cute she steals the show. Thanks so much for the support, information and trying to educate people to keep trails open.

@user-pt7zg3ym8m 6 месяцев назад

Exactly, she steals the show, which distracts from the content enough for me to move on to another channel at that time.

@JBC-qd5dh 6 месяцев назад

@@user-pt7zg3ym8mwe truly value your opinion, and are bereft to see you go. Be careful out there, kids are scary.

@Me-ew8uh 6 месяцев назад

@@user-pt7zg3ym8m I have a funny feeling they rather have the kid around than you. Anyone that would try to appease a viewer over family aint worth watchin.

@marshallmiller4169 6 месяцев назад

Suwa has been fighting to close trails since the 80s. We have all become so divided amongst ourselves that they finally got what they were after. But now they have that confidence they will never be happy until they have it all.

@ejbenvenuto 6 месяцев назад

You lost me once i saw the guy with the flag and AR. You have stayed apolitical so far and i appreciate that…. Ive had enouth of the wannabe GiJoes...

@07wrxtr1 6 месяцев назад

Who cares... It IS a political thing - it's called the 30x30 land plan - put in place by Biden on day one. 30% of public lands are to be preserved by 2030 and 50% by 2050. So this is about creating artificial scarcity in order to create natural asset companies in order to make $$$ from the public lands. Regardless of which side of the fence you're on - both could agree that the demise of public goods under the scapegoat of "saving the environment dude bro" is the real issues. Remember -"the issue is never the issue"

@klxcountry 5 месяцев назад

90 percents of jeep or sxs drivers are rightwing fktrds.

@Jesus_Christ_is_alive 5 месяцев назад

The American flag and the 2nd amendment is a symbol of freedom and the God given right to protect freedom.

@07wrxtr1 5 месяцев назад

@@Jesus_Christ_is_alive Tell that to Tyson foods.

@klxcountry 5 месяцев назад

@Jesus_Christ_is_alive there is no such thing as God, and you sound like an uneducated child.

@sorenmelchior 6 месяцев назад

Well said both of you. We see bad behavior here in Alaska a lot the last 15 years. Most of the issues come from visitors but we still have some bad actors that live here as well. Here we deal with people going out on the trails too early in spring (before they dry out), and they dig big ruts that ruin those trails for the summer for everyone else, because those ruts fill up and channel water, or tear away the top vegetation so enabling massive erosion when it rains. And then that causes people to “make their own trail” around the mud obstacles, making it even worse by creating mud pits.

@JNMoodyPhotography 6 месяцев назад

I ran what was the largest off-road club in Nevada at one time and what I saw is the closures of trails and loss of access rests completely on the shoulders of the people who forget Tread Lightly. The behavior of people since Covid was one reason I walked away from the off road hobby several years ago and haven’t looked back. It’s not that they don’t understand restrictions it’s THAT THEY DON’T CARE!

@shawnputnam1061 6 месяцев назад

They're organizing and FINALLY, someone like you are now hitting back. Its important everyone else on YT starts uniting and making the videos to bring this to the front. Recovery channels, overland channels etc etc etc.

@Pepschannel 5 месяцев назад

Thanks Rory for speaking out! You are right on target. I came from dirt bikes in 70s & 80s. Then quads, then jeeps and now SXSs. We have to police ourselves and you've inspiried me to start putting something in my videos about trail responsibility too. Thanks again.

@darlalinn6216 6 месяцев назад

This is a problem everywhere. People visiting are disrespectful of our open spaces. Thank you for your hard work to protect it.

@johnpagejr.7628 6 месяцев назад

Hi Rory: An 72 year old motorcycle rider here to say that I agree very much and am so glad you are doing this. I grew up in Missoula MT and back in the 70's our favorite motorcycle trail got closed and turned into a designated wilderness area even though it had been logged and had at one time people living up there. My father took our whole family on a picnic up the logging road to the Rattle snake lakes. first they closed it cars and trucks. Then later they closed it to motorcycle's and then later restricted bicycles to the first 10 miles of the road forcing you to walk the last 11 miles to our favorite lake to fish and camp. So from this old guy who still rides and now lives in Chelan WA I thank you for every thing you are doing.

@Tbone-406 6 месяцев назад

Man I wish I was around back then. I would take my jeep up there. Only decent offroad trail Missoula has now is blue mountain. I've lived in the Bitterroot for 30 years and have never made it to rattlesnake lakes. Are they awesome?

@johnpagejr.7628 6 месяцев назад

@@Tbone-406 Yes they are awesome. If you are still healthy enough to back pack it would be a great trip. I don't know if they will still let you ride a bicycle in 10 mile still or not. But if they do you can probable make it in and out in one day. If you have time there are lots of things to take in up in those lakes. Check them out on Google Earth. The fishing is great if you are a fishermen.

@dccheek7495 6 месяцев назад

Excellent video and hopefully it will get shared a million times over and help people understand what we are losing!

@MtnHound 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for creating this video. It is so needed. As has been said, these are not new issues, but with such a large influx of people without experience drawn to off-roading by the ease of getting into it with the vehicles available today and by social media, who did not grow up around these hobbies with mentors to teach them how to properly respect the land, having respected social media content creators spreading messages of proper etiquette will hopefully help. I’ve been visiting Moab since the 90s and every time I go now, I just shake my head at the amount of poor decisions being made. Moab is one of my favorite places on earth, but it gets harder and harder to go there and see what is happening to the area. It is getting so tore up and abused. If it continues like it is, even if the trails stay open, it’s not going to be worth going there.

@builtbypottsy-byrdkrap 6 месяцев назад

So glad you are talking about this.. I am out there about 3 times a year.. I always pickups trash and drag it back.. It's so frustrating to see where people have blasted a trail.. Keep up the good work.. Pottsy

@cbcowart933 3 месяца назад

Important info ... good show Rory. I grew up in FL and if you don't fight for your right, they will close it down. You have to fight for your right to nature, we have few spots left from when I was younger, but too many are disrespectful, like you mention and it just gives them ammo to use against us.

@utahpubliclandsalliance 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Rory, you told the story very well about what’s causing us to lose our access for so many types of users. We are working on a strategy to be more effective at stopping the shutdowns and should have it ready before comments on the San Rafael Swell open in May. Thank you for your role in encouraging people to get involved.

@rkc8216 6 месяцев назад

I was in Moab in Ocotber 2023. Took the Utah OHV course, rented a side by side and a guide because I had never been there before. I thought the course wsa very important in alerting people to the cryptobiotic soil. I didn't see any in the Moab/Arches/Dead Horse Point area because even the hikers/tourists on foot are going everywhere. I noticed it right away when we visited Hovenweep National Monument. I think it's imperative, like Rory said, that everybody get together and educate people to stay on established trails. And Rory, I'm from "Back East" and there aren't many places to raise hell in a Jeep/ATV/SIde by Side without paying to go into a private park. Apparently, there is a perception that the West is wide open and people can just go where they want.

@07wrxtr1 6 месяцев назад

I think this is a function of people being trapped in large cities - which - then create added pressures - so people dream of "just leaving" and "just" doing whatever they "feel" like - and - you take a fatherless son with zero impulse control = society then has to babysit. So to me this is a bigger function of low trust societies, fatherless families, little to no enforcement of rules/boundaries due to the breakup of the family - then - you give some kid in his early 20's an ATV with a GoPro = "dude bro, anything for the gram dude bro, it's all about ME dude bro" and boom.... they're going 45+ in our 25mph zone... and then going off trail and leaving garbage. I think overall - the ATV issue is just a symptom of a bigger problem - a lack of intact families, lack of values - where are the values when the religion of the day is "just" do whatever feels good dude bro

@seant2808 6 месяцев назад

I encountered Moab youth during the 90's that were ripping live scrub brush out of the ground with thier vehicles and dumping gas on them for a Camp fire. Moab should be the leader and start an off-road certification to allow people to use trails and hold them responsable. Starts at home.

@bigchevy350boy 6 месяцев назад

Even up here in Maine 🇺🇸.. There's so many trails that have been shut down due to this same thing.. It's sad to see some of the favorites get gated up.. 😒 Sadly people ruin it for others that stay on the trails.. Great video bud

@brianm9467 6 месяцев назад

Deal with the same thing here on the East coast for snowmobiles and losing trails. Lots of folks feel they are entitled now a days and do whatever they want. Keep up the good fight and keep the trails open out there for the next generation. Educate as many as you can and get folks involved.

@kenlee5376 6 месяцев назад

I’m from Arizona and just came to Moab recently. It’s like being allowed to drive around in the Grand Canyon!! It is such an incredible experience, it is such a privilege to do.

@chicnwing4519 6 месяцев назад

It's being done in steps, each group at a time that way they only fight a small group.so you sit back and say let them shut it down for that group it doesn't bother me .well your group will be next.years ago we formed a group,a trail association. Hikers ,bikers,motor cycles, atv, buggy and jeeps. What happened? Everybody blamed everyone else and nothing got done, these closure groups know this and they use it against us. You are spot on Rory United we stand divided we fall

@matthewwilson1017 6 месяцев назад

There's a lot of versions of this quote out there, but "freedom without responsibility is just selfishness." As a resident of southern Utah, and a frequent visitor to Moab I appreciate the message you're trying to spread in this video. It's just so sad to see these beautiful wild places disrespected and trashed and then ultimately closed.

@BP-kg7ti 6 месяцев назад

Rory, kudos for bringing this subject to the forefront. I live in Az and am seeing really bad actors out in public land not respecting the rules of any trail whether it be motorized or non motorized. Where I live we have off road bicyclist cutting new trails in state trust land. At night I hear the side by sides running up and down the washes in our area. The mentality is rules were made for thee but not for me. I stopped hiking the state land I mentioned because I got tired seeing the plants and trees branches cut because the bicyclist didn’t want to get scratched.

@cvhoway 6 месяцев назад

Much needed video. It’s pretty dispensable how people treat public land. Great to bring this to the front of everyone’s mind.

@JP.Danny007 6 месяцев назад

we need to be educated and updated about the real situation in order to maintain an enjoyable environment!! thanks Rory!!

@chriszimmerman4500 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for talking about this Rory. It’s a real problem West Coast East Coast everywhere in between I’ve been riding for 35 years. There’s places that I used to could not ride in a week now I can ride in a day because of the closures is really pathetic.

@joshbuck5877 6 месяцев назад

We had a big issue here in California about you're issue with closures. Well it took time to get it across to people but it worked. Hold club meetings get it out there meet at a steakhouse or a gym or something. We have still the yahoos but it has gotten smaller. Our biggest issues here are bathroom usage white flowers everywhere garbage broken vehicle parts left behind. We have volunteers that hit the trails 2,3 or 4 times throughout the year helping with cleanup. So meetings videos state park rangers will clean up your issues. Wish the best for ya'll...

@scottparker3329 6 месяцев назад

These people that leave their trash on the trails are the same people that do the same other places. Unfortunately a lot that people that care are afraid to call these people out for fear of repercussions from the guilty party. Keep hounding the guilty and pounding your point across and never apologize for caring about keeping the trails open !!!! Hound and Pound!!!

@RobertClontz 5 месяцев назад

Appreciate your sharing this for this who are unaware happening as well as those people who are oblivious to the consequences of their tourism stupidity.

@ronaldbirdsong8267 6 месяцев назад

Trail lightly is an organization that I’ve been a member of for over 10 years, and it explains everything that a trail rider needs to know about off Roading and that is basically do you know harm if you get stuck you leave ruts fill them back in move stones back where they belong do not tear up the trails because as you can see, you ruin it for everyone else!

@Pearce94YJ 6 месяцев назад

Side by sides are like jet skis, just super anoying. Lol. Both messing it up for others. Education for both, appreciate your video getting a positive message out the right way for all to enjoy together

@rogerspencer2292 6 месяцев назад

I am surprised that you can take your vehicles where you do. Here in the UK we have many Sites of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI) and other environmental designations, where there would be no chance of ‘wheeling’, so I applaud you for trying to make everyone aware of what they have and to not abuse it. The many and varied environments and landforms (not to mention the sacred side of things) in your part of the world should be enjoyed by all but in a respectful and responsible manner.

@ChaosAura 6 месяцев назад

I'm fairly new to off-roading in general, but based on everything I read through the local 4x4 club emails, this problem is everywhere

@Uncledonkeystales 6 месяцев назад

I shared this video on my personal website/blog

@angerbauerm 6 месяцев назад

Great message - love your channel and cherish my experiences riding (pedal and dirt bike) in Moab area. And Thank You for even inviting SUWA - we don't have to treat others with an opposing view as enemies - you could teach our politicians a thing or two. A frank discussion with those folks could go a long way towards finding alternative approaches or adjustments that would benefit everyone. Good for you for being a mature adult - I shouldn't have to say that though. We need more people like this.

@jennifergonzales3164 6 месяцев назад

Im from florida and i want to go check-out moab one day. Lets all use a little common sense and do it responsibly

@mikebradford7780 6 месяцев назад

Absolutely. Its a beautiful place.

@justinh7099 6 месяцев назад

Preach! These trails shouldn't require volunteers to stay alive. People need to respect the land and be responsible. There's way more than just a couple bad apples, and it needs to change.

@coloradomallcrawlers 6 месяцев назад

I’m glad you two are talking again! About those 317 miles of trails… I recorded most of them before they closed. I have hours and hours of trail cam showing no trash, no off trail marks, no overcrowding. Those trails were pretty unproblematic. I agree 100% about trail etiquette, but it bothers me they shut these trails down especially since there are truly problematic trails in Moab. I worry those trails are next.

@TheDavidjakeson 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the great conversation, Rory. I really hope that the Blue Ribbon coalition is successful. I'm a mountain biker and don't jeep or anything like that and all I can say is that if motorized travel is restricted in Moab & surrounding areas mountain bikes are likely next on the list.

@DakotaOverlander 6 месяцев назад

I agree with you Rory we need to get those that don’t understand the can’t just do whatever they want and they need to be educated on the rules so these iconic trails don’t get shut down

@campy9712 6 месяцев назад

People who never have gone four wheeling in their lives are buying side by sides and don’t know how to responsibly go out and drive the trails. Just because it can go there doesn’t mean it can legally or responsibly go there. Training should be a requirement and the punishment for going off the marked and mapped trails should be extreme. Thank you for posting this video Rory.

@archangel7673 6 месяцев назад

I have never been to Utah,but it is on my list. I have driven with some southern boys,and you are right! Faster is the only way!!! We got separated a LOT! I paid hard earned money for all of my off road toys,and I don't want to have to pay to fix them!!!! I have picked up trash on the trails, I even had to call a guy out for bringing bottles out!!! I always carry an onion bag for trash.

@dwal2165 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for making. Sounds like some big problems. It's a big problem with people now days. Just because you are you does not mean you should not have thoughts for others.

@mastervoni1285 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Rory, this is very important, you can't fix stupid if you don't try!

@brianshields5307 5 месяцев назад

Great video - I commend you for doing it. I am a multi-use advocate and regardless of where someone stands on these issues it is important to listen to "the other side" and try to find common ground. Extremism only breeds hate, discontent, and more of the same - thus endless law suits. There is room for all of us to recreate but we will never figure it out of we simply sit in "our camp" and bitch about the other side. Again, good on you for taking the time to calmly talk about some of the issues.

@archivegarage7638 6 месяцев назад

Thank you. Sad that some people are so dead inside they are throwing garbage out on the trail, and don't care they are ruining it for everyone

@craigr6763 6 месяцев назад

So sad to see people disrespect the land with garbage and not staying on the trail. I’m always packing out someone’s garbage! Thanks for the education on this.

@dananderson2786 6 месяцев назад

My name is detail dan. I have been working out in moab for the last 20 years. It really has changed, the helping hand and brother hood I knew is gone. I love that place but it's a privilege not a right to be there. U must show respect and love and compassion. Not build another hotel. . I can't even go there anymore. The cocky traffic jams are 2 much. Such a privilege to go work there every spring out at bfe and to be apart of it. But those days are gone. Really appreciate what u do . And keeping people safe out there is a big deal. Thanks I hope we can all play in the sand box together.. before we lose the privilege.

@4knanapapa 6 месяцев назад

We have the same problem in michigan, much of the trail system goes over private lands through lease agreements, what happens particularly since the arrival of side by sides, people just wont stay on the trail causing damage to property and the reaction is,"I'm not leasing my land for your trails anymore", lack of self control is the is the biggest enemy of the rec sport.

@incognitoalias2808 5 месяцев назад

I have never understood how a person enjoys the Tranquility of Nature with music playing Loudly......

@suspicious_white_van 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for helping to get the word out.

@jimsdimideas5383 6 месяцев назад

It is really great that you put this video out. I have only seen side mentions of these closures and wish the off-road RU-vid community would be more active raising awareness. Keep up the great videos

@samuelarsenault5484 6 месяцев назад

I come from the east coast of canada on a little sand bar. We see issues around land use here as well and it can definitely be a hard issue to sit down and have a level headed converstion about. Kudos for doing that.

@davidhillbrand2302 6 месяцев назад

Spot On Rory! Thank you.

@terrellpettijohn3952 6 месяцев назад

Good discussion Rory. I ride with a group from our local community her north of Tucson on side by sides. Most of the areas that we ride in are pretty remote and very seldom do we encounter jeeps, but we never leave any trash behind and all are stock machines in regard to exhaust systems. If we see trash, we pick it up.