That moment when you realize that all those friends in her "Paradise" were imaginary and devices she made herself to keep herself sane and suppress the pain... The moment I realized that, I just held my head down for a minute or two.
oh man, it was almost as if i didn't want to belive that falcom took it that for, but they did and for the 1st time i could just move on saying its just a game
It's later explained in Zero that (Spoilers) The children were real, but they all died. Renne started imitating them as alternate personalities to save her own sanity. Kinda like a self defense mechanism.
@@chainchomp3500 Yeah, sorry, I wrote the comment right after finishing Sky 3rd. Now I recently got past Zero and Ao, so I realized that, but still a pretty nutty story.
_"What are you going to be today? A sweet doll? A cool boy?"_ ~Owner Oof! When you realize that the clients probably thought she was just doing some kinky role-playing with them.
Very difficult to digest, especially since i really get attached to Renne throughout this episode. I immediately realized that there was something wrong. There was no reason that she was the only one not to "work" and the fact that the children did not have faces emphasizes that they do not really have an identity. For the last scene with her parents, i wonder if Renne didn't imagine the fact that they talk about her that way. It really feels like they're acting like she doesn't matter to them.
Well... spoilers for Zero. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Her parents think she died in a house fire. They have no idea what truly happened to her, and never sold her - she was kidnapped. Seeing that scene with that knowledge, the way they talk makes sense. Seeing it from Renne's perspective, believing what she does, it's... absolutely stomach-turning. I got spoiled from Zero, if I hadn't this scene would've probably hit me even harder.
As much as I love the Cold Steel arc, finally playing the final installment now. The character development and story telling they had in Trails in the Sky, such as this story, is why I believe the Cold Steel arc will never hold a candle to it. Cold steel is great, don't get me wrong, but the stories they made in Sky and even in the Crossbell arc were absolute masterpieces.
@@yourface2464 Is it part of the story of trails from zero? I would like to know where i can find the house ,i just finished the game. I haven't played trails in the sky so i am wondering about which house you are mentioning.
There has always been a dark undercurrent in many Trails games, it's just that they usually sweep the darkest stuff under the rug. This door is so late in the game and so far down Hell/Gehenna, you have to work hard to get to this door, that's when you knew it's not meant for easy viewing.
Trails has always had a VERY deep and dark undertone. With FC and SC, you're dealing with things like the Society, in 3rd you have the realities that the doors show you. In Crossbell you have some really fucked up shit. The Cold Steel games also had that extremely dark undertone, even if it was presented almost like a high school romance sim. From a civil war, to the razing of a town, to the Divine Knights, to the endings of CS 3 and 4, and ESPECIALLY everything that happened in Hajimari, Trails is a very sinister and dark storyline. Of course, to commercialize it better, and to get people into the game, it does get swept under a rug. But once you start to read all the lore... Well
Trails has always been very dark and gruesome, and it will only get more sinister with Kuro no Kiseki (Trails in the Dark). After what was learnt towards the end of Cold Steel IV with Gnosis and the D∴G Cult, and Calvard being a major point of their headquarters, were in for some foul times leading into Kuro.
IF I DIDN'T WATCH THIS MAN, I WOULD NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE STORY WHY RENNE IS IN CROSSBELL... Man... I never paid attention to this doors... looks like im gonna play the game again... Renne is one of my most favorite loli in trails trilogy and ao zero duology... Now i understand why estelle is so fixated on her...
Currently playing Trails 3rd. Just unlocked this door and watched the scene last night. Unreal. Poor Renne! At least Josh & Loewe laid waste to the scumbags running “Paradise.” The way this backstory plays out is crazy. Especially with the text scrolling at diff speeds and changing colors for effect. A few minutes in you’re just like “Ok hope this isn’t implying what I think it’s implying..” then just.. damn. Such darkness under what you think is a wholesome RPG. Falcom is on another level.
@@GiordanDiodato Her hell was slightly different from what I remember, she was experimented to heighten her senses to inhuman levels, Renne already was a genius even before "paradise" and her hell was made up of only a mundane and absolutely disguting evil, sexual abuse for a long fucking time, both had it incredibly fucking bad but at the very least Tio didn't have to imagine her dead child friends to safeguard what little sanity she had left.
When I saw the the first conversation In star door no. 15 "Which number would you like today?" "Fifteen" "You've been nominated, Renne. Be sure to treat our customer with care" I immediately fell silent, because I knew what's the meaning behind this. And yes, when I saw Renee's body, which is full of scars, damn. It hit me like a truck. It's just a game, but this time. No
This has sooo many "OH SHIT" moments in such a short time. And in every one of those, things get worst. But it's so damn PERFECTLY done. I hate you and I love you, Falcom
What I love about Trails is that it lures you with the image of a happy, twin-tailed girl and the expectation of a funny adventure, but eventually it all leads to...this.
To be honest though, I'm on the third chapter of Zero no Kiseki and this is the only instance of something so dark, twisted and frightening. The series has never delivered something like this again, at least not where I am at. I also played Cold Steel 1, to be precise.
@@kreios6871 Finished. I'm into Ao no Kiseki right now. I've beaten 5 out of 8 games (excluding the temporarily Japan-only Cold Steel IV) of the series and nothing has ever been like that. Honestly, if the series hasn't managed to do so in so many games, one cannot say that such is one of its features. And there's nothing wrong about that, the Kiseki series has other strong points. We don't need to make up that psychological horror and raw brutality like Berserk is one of its features to be supportive.
@@tatsunakyo As far as I remember Zero connects to this moon door - even if not discussing the event in its full emotional potential as in 3rd. What I agree with is, that 3rd probably is the darkest of the games given its (albeit short) main story and this particular moon door. Its also the reason why I actually prefer it to FC or SC.
This was genuinely a jaw dropping side story for me. I understand from hints that Renne had a horrible past, but opening the door to this and experiencing it made me feel a tad bit sick. Man, this game is a rollercoaster of emotions.
@@lalalalisa41 Hamel was dark and so was the revelation of Kevin's secret, but Renne's door trumps everything. This is not the kind of story i expected sexual abuse of a little kid to show up in.
@@Scytherman Or that it would be handled with such simultaneous honesty and grace. One minute your replacing lightbulbs in park lampposts, the next you're watching the most skilled artistic depiction of one of of the worst subjects of all of humanity that you will ever see. What a game.
@@Scythermani wish they hadn't retconned the hamel incident as caused by the erebonian curse of ishmelga. There are people who could actually pull something like that if tempted by greed. But no, they wanted some magical curse like power to be responsible for everything instead of dealing with humanity's evil side.
Just started this series of games this year. Just saw this door 10 mins ago. Then came straight on RU-vid to see if everyone was as horrified as me! Great storytelling for sure though.
I just got into the trails series and heard about how bad this is. I got curious and looked up 3 minutes later... I’m only three minutes in and I can already tell there’s child labor and abuse involved. I wanna puke
This is why she is my favorite character in the series. Literally, I only want to play Zero to know more about her. CS4 didn't have enough scenes with her. I just want to see her happy. :(
"Zero no Kiseki" will shine the darkest destiny of this poor little girl.... I was sooooo touched when Estella caught this poor little girl with warm embrace in the end. I was just Crying like a baby... Falcom made the best JRPG in the game history.
A friend sent this to me after we chatted a bit about playing Trails. He said that out of the scenes in 3rd Chapter, this was one of the more important (like, in regards to understanding backstory). ... This is fucked up. I already felt bad for Renne after SC, but this just makes me feel even worse. No person, let alone a child, should go through such things. 13:01 This was where I just started screaming "OH GOD"
But wait... in her introduction in SC, she's 11 years old, and she was saved by Joshua and Loewe... and by the point she first appears, Joshua has not been part of the Enforcers for 6 years (officially at least)... so that means that Renne was 5 years old when all of this happened to her? My God.
Literally finished Zero no Kiseki 30 minutes ago. This specific Star Door was what got me interested to play the Crossbell games. It just makes you overthink man,how fucked up all these things are and it horrifies you when you realize that some part of that is indeed happening in real life. Seriously the Crossbell games are underrated asf.
@@sheridanmovieguy yes point taken but the fact that they left her in someone's care just becuz of a huge debt isn't really reasonable enough considering wat kind of hellish shit renne's got through becuz of her parent's foolish decision
@@reno9571 they didn't know. And frankly, nobody could have known. You don't generally expect someone to burn down the house and abduct your children when you go to work, for example. Hayworth needed time to handle their debts and they had to keep their daughter OUT of danger. Because debt collectors could hurt her. Nobody could know that what happened when they did leave Renne would happen.