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Train Simulator 2016 - Route Learning: Norwich to Great Yarmouth via Reedham (Class 47) 

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In this next route learning video we take a DRS Class 47 on a non-stop run from Norwich to Great Yarmouth via Reedham, dragging a dead Class 90 set on the rear. There is a small amount of shunting to be done at each end of the scenario.
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@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 8 лет назад
The 20/60 restriction over a bridge applies to loco-hauled trains because of their weight. Essentially its to do with the amount of weight placed on each axle, this known as the axle loading. For a Class 156 Super Sprinter the axle loading is about 9 tons per axle, for a Class 47 it can be as high as 21 tons per axle so you can see there's a huge difference. To get the axle loading for a train you simply take the total weight of the train and divide it by the number of axles: Class 156 (38 tons/4 axles (heaviest of the two vehicles in a set) = 9.5 ton axle load. Class 47: 124 tons/6 axles = 20.67 ton axle loading. Hope this explains it! 😊
@chrismaley512
@chrismaley512 8 лет назад
Thank you PTG - another excellent video. Hope you enjoyed your holiday and have returned refreshed.
@PTGRail
@PTGRail 8 лет назад
Thanks, Chris. Glad you enjoyed this video. I had a great holiday, America was awesome! I'm feeling very refreshed now after that :)
@clivejones5880
@clivejones5880 5 лет назад
Stunning graphics on this route!
@riversideredz6082
@riversideredz6082 8 лет назад
Great Episode you have a lot of experience of the game. Thanks once again for trying to help me with removing the intercity logo I look forward to that!
@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 8 лет назад
Also, to give a smoother start, leave the train brake on at it's lowest setting (or use the loco brake, eithercis fine), select a low power setting, let the amps rise. Then when they have stopped rising, release the brakes and the train will start more smoothly. On E-G shuttles drivers would commonly bring the train to a final stand using the loco brake as it allows a quicker application and release. The air brakes of the WCML Over Shap operate as in real life; they take longer to apply and release depending on the length of the train.
@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 8 лет назад
Great video, I think you made a good choice going for a loco-hauled train over a unit as I totally agree that driving nothing but units gets boring after a while. Just a couple of extra things about the Class 47s: some have a greater fuel capacity (mainly the 47/4, /7 and /8s being fitted with twin-fuel tanks to improve their range. Also some Class 47s are allowed to do 100mph. The Class 47/7s were specially converted from 47/4s in 1979 to operate Glasgow to Edinburgh push-pull services replacing Class 27s topping and tailing air disc-brake fitted Mk2z sets. For the E-G shuttle they were fitted with TDM (Time Division Muliplex) push-pull equipment and maintained to run at 100mph rather than 95mph. Extra locos were converted in the mid-80s when push-pull working was extended to Glasgow to Aberdeen services in 1985 and Edinburgh to Aberdeen services in 1986. The E-G sets utilised rakes of 5-6 Mk3a coaches and a Mk2f DBSO (Converted from a Mk2f BSO, fitted with a driving can in the guard's van but retaining the gangway connection). Aberdeen services used some Mk3 sets but also used Mk2 sets comprised mainly of air-con Mk2s but with some non-air con Mk2s mixed into some sets. Class 158s replaced all Class 47 push-pull workings in 1990. Also when driving older diesel-electrics such as the Class 37s, 47s and 55s when accelerating the power handle needs to be pulled back occasionally. The traction motors undergo a process known as field diverting, this makes essentially allows the current to rise again every so often allowing greater acceleration rather than the level of current generated by the motors slowly but continually falling. It is good practice to note the speeds at which the ammeter suddenly jumps to a higher reading and to anticipate this by reducing the throttle considerably before this occurs to prevent the train lurching and reduce the likelihood of wheelslip in adverse conditions. Then allow the current in the motors to increase slightly as the motors go through a field divert stage and then once they have then resume full power.
@dramakdic
@dramakdic 7 лет назад
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@dillanmccants4642
@dillanmccants4642 3 года назад
Some people complain about your commentary but it’s truly informative especially without the HUD. Funny thing is I’ve never actually considered the commentary to be the engineer speaking out loud. More of his thoughts! Haha. Really helps with immersion
@Class380Fan
@Class380Fan 8 лет назад
Fantastic video! Think I may buy this pack as I own everything it needs than the Class 153 that I still need to buy.
@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 8 лет назад
Also I believe the Class 47s have an eight-notch power handle. Those used on the E-G push-pull shuttles certainly did but I'm not sure about the other subclasses.
@ste2577
@ste2577 8 лет назад
great video! thanks very much for your efforts :)
@PTGRail
@PTGRail 8 лет назад
Thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it :)
@jakevlogs8418
@jakevlogs8418 8 лет назад
great video like always peter
@yorkshiretrains1857
@yorkshiretrains1857 7 лет назад
Love the video this helped me tons
@danthefryingpan963
@danthefryingpan963 6 лет назад
With the ammeter, the engine revs up into the 'yellow' region at around 22 and 40mph if you are at 2000 Amps. After that you can change the power setting safely to where ever without random jumps in power output. Edit: The speed restriction at 15:15 is to reduce the impulse from your heavy axle load on the old bridge. Sprinters/lighter consists do not need to reduce their speed at these points due to their lighter axle loads. Edit: at 45:51 when you're just a loco, you're meant to use your loco brake only :).
@michaelcampbell9307
@michaelcampbell9307 8 лет назад
Great video
@simonrichardson5077
@simonrichardson5077 6 лет назад
Great stuff :-)
@bulwinkle
@bulwinkle 8 лет назад
If I could choose just one 'improvement' to the human body, I would go for super zoom eyes so that we could do without microscopes and telescopes.
@jakevlogs8418
@jakevlogs8418 8 лет назад
when you drive that loco your ment to pull the power handle back when you approch the speed you want so say you wanna do 50mph pull the handle back at 59mph or 58mph to stop the amp meter from jumping.
@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 8 лет назад
Should also say: I know you did reduce the power at the fiend divert points, I was just trying to illustrate why a driver needs to do so.
@theenthusiast101
@theenthusiast101 8 лет назад
Great vid. Why were you only aloud to do 50mph though when the limit is 60?
@BanditsVCops
@BanditsVCops 8 лет назад
50mph is the max permitted speed due to the Class 90 in tow.
@LeoMartinDJ
@LeoMartinDJ 8 лет назад
Alike when Thunderbirds (57's) are rescuing failed Pendolino's, due to the weight of the train and the engine, 50 mph is the maximum permitted speed for dragging a dead consist in this case. Most likely due to wheelspin possibility above 50mph. I guess this speed is increased when a 57 is at the front due to increase power than that of a 47.
@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 8 лет назад
Hopefully my comment regarding the driving technique of the Class 47 made sense. Sometimes I feel I ramble on rather tgan explain! 😊
@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 8 лет назад
And it's perfectly fine to go well into the yellow zone when accelerating. You shouldn't exceed 3.5kA though, as this is liable to cause the traction motors to blow in real life.
@haddockman30
@haddockman30 7 лет назад
There was someone at Berney Arms and you didn't stop for him. He will be pissed. :D
@am-vm8ew
@am-vm8ew 6 лет назад
haddockman30 berney arms is a request stop only. And it is in the middle of nowhere haha.
@sydneytransportfilms8444
@sydneytransportfilms8444 8 лет назад
Will you do another train guide?
@Haunteddookie
@Haunteddookie 8 лет назад
Are you planning on doing another q and a video at some point?
@modeltrainhubuk9481
@modeltrainhubuk9481 8 лет назад
Can you do the pretendlino to Norwich from London or where ever from you want to go
@xX3alienpjXx
@xX3alienpjXx 8 лет назад
Hello PTGRail. I am wondering, are you a real train driver ? since you are so professional in your videos ?
@patricksmusic3452
@patricksmusic3452 8 лет назад
He's not a train driver yet but he is very professional!
@savage1046
@savage1046 8 лет назад
i am a train driver
@jackcooper5579
@jackcooper5579 8 лет назад
What do you drive
@savage1046
@savage1046 8 лет назад
319 from liverpool to preston wigan manchester and warrington
@xX3alienpjXx
@xX3alienpjXx 8 лет назад
Personally i am planing to become one here in Denmark,
@NiCk-bf1oh
@NiCk-bf1oh 8 лет назад
Great Vid!! Can You Do A High Speed Service In The Acela Express Please?!?
@PTGRail
@PTGRail 7 лет назад
Thanks! I plan to in the future :)
@Brandon-gf2lu
@Brandon-gf2lu 7 лет назад
Please could you link the livery, I've searched everywhere
@malcolmragan1493
@malcolmragan1493 8 лет назад
Maybe that 20 mph at the bridge around 15 minutes has to do with the weight distribution of locomotive hauled trains?
@MrDreamliner
@MrDreamliner 8 лет назад
That's exactly what it means =)
@Slug901
@Slug901 8 лет назад
Correct.
@matthewstevens3665
@matthewstevens3665 8 лет назад
What would be the consequences of increasing the power before the rear of the train passed the speed board?
@BricksForDays
@BricksForDays 7 лет назад
Matthew Stevens It would show as speeding
@mallard9756
@mallard9756 8 лет назад
@PTGRail could you please do a route learning video on the freeware south west wales route from oakwood shed
@PTGRail
@PTGRail 8 лет назад
Hi there. I don't usually cover freeware routes, unfortunately. But I will consider it :)
@mallard9756
@mallard9756 8 лет назад
ok thanks for responding anyway, its my local route and seems like not many people know about it, the guy who has recently updated it from whitland to pyle does it for nothing and would be nice to get the route known
@rossssd4969
@rossssd4969 8 лет назад
So do they actually run the Class 90 set from Norwich to Great Yarmouth, because that's very unusual?
@BanditsVCops
@BanditsVCops 8 лет назад
It was a summer only service last year but this year it hasn't run.
@LeoMartinDJ
@LeoMartinDJ 8 лет назад
Hi Ross, as far as I'm aware, this service is run in the summer months to cater for extra demand in the Great Yarmouth region, and it's run very rarely even in the summer months. Not sure if this still occurs today under AGA.
@BanditsVCops
@BanditsVCops 8 лет назад
+Leo Martin last time it occurred was when Class 47s were on the Wherry Lines.
@williamjohnson7699
@williamjohnson7699 7 лет назад
The 90s DONT go to Yarmouth at all Because they are too long they go to London Liverpool Street or Liverpool lime street the 153 the 37 and 68 go to Yarmouth not 90s
@TrainclipsHD
@TrainclipsHD 7 лет назад
How many 47's were converted Ito 57's?
@joelharris1335
@joelharris1335 4 года назад
33 Class 47's have been converted into Class 57's?
@bahnspotterEU
@bahnspotterEU 8 лет назад
BERNEY ARMS!
@TicTacTrolleyServiceTico
@TicTacTrolleyServiceTico 8 лет назад
YES!
@mrtrainexpert327
@mrtrainexpert327 8 лет назад
my FOV setting doesn't work
@neymarmessi6434
@neymarmessi6434 8 лет назад
Okay
@Haunteddookie
@Haunteddookie 8 лет назад
Can someone tell me why certain stations are often shortened or partly unused?
@BanditsVCops
@BanditsVCops 8 лет назад
Keeps the costs down.
@Haunteddookie
@Haunteddookie 8 лет назад
thanks
@R9naldo
@R9naldo 6 лет назад
The coupling into the class 90 is not realistic because you wouldn't hit the class 90 that hard and there's always men helping so you wouldn't cause accidents
@szymongorczynski7621
@szymongorczynski7621 8 лет назад
Why would a class 90 diagram be used on the service?
@Luke_Tayler
@Luke_Tayler 8 лет назад
I believe (although I live in the West Country!) that it is because the direct high-capacity express services used into London from Norwich sometimes have their journeys lengthened to Yarmouth via seperate locomotives due to the lack of electrification. Saves folks the bother of having to switch trains!
@BanditsVCops
@BanditsVCops 8 лет назад
+Luke Tayler and the fact they have more seats than a 1/2/3 car DMU!
@BenF1Fan2011
@BenF1Fan2011 7 лет назад
where did you get the greater Anglia reskins for the 90?
@Brandon-gf2lu
@Brandon-gf2lu 7 лет назад
Did you find it?
@BenF1Fan2011
@BenF1Fan2011 7 лет назад
Brandon Wilson no
@am-vm8ew
@am-vm8ew 6 лет назад
You get it in a scenario pack from www.armstrongpowerhouse.com for the wherry lines.
@contrapunctusmammalia3993
@contrapunctusmammalia3993 6 лет назад
Do you know which one?
@am-vm8ew
@am-vm8ew 5 лет назад
@@contrapunctusmammalia3993 Not sure, but I have both. It's 1 of them.
@gamingtyler3517
@gamingtyler3517 8 лет назад
Hello if possible could you please do a London midland route Birmingham new street to liverpool lime street please thank you
@46harry
@46harry 7 лет назад
i live at Norwich i saw this train at Norwich
@TicTacTrolleyServiceTico
@TicTacTrolleyServiceTico 8 лет назад
Hi, it would be nice for you to drive a Class 143 Pacer from Cardiff Central to Cheltenham Spa.
@PTGRail
@PTGRail 8 лет назад
Unfortunately the route to Cheltenham hasn't yet been modelled in train simulator.
@TicTacTrolleyServiceTico
@TicTacTrolleyServiceTico 8 лет назад
oh right.
@neymarmessi6434
@neymarmessi6434 8 лет назад
Can u do a Chatham mainline gillingham to London Victoria class 375 4 coaches
@PTGRail
@PTGRail 8 лет назад
I will be covering that route between Sheerness and Victoria in a Class 465/466 in the near future.
@everythingbyjanetdullaghan5122
@everythingbyjanetdullaghan5122 2 года назад
W
@LupusAries
@LupusAries 8 лет назад
Which driver version are you using?
@PTGRail
@PTGRail 8 лет назад
I always keep my Nvidia drivers updated to the latest version. The problem has existed since March 2015 if I remember rightly.
@LupusAries
@LupusAries 8 лет назад
PTGRail Strange I am on driver version 368.22 and I don't have this problem running on 2x SSAA. I do use the FXAA elminitator mod with the off setting though.
@LupusAries
@LupusAries 8 лет назад
PTGRail Haven't had that problem since the 365. drivers.
@HariPaudyel
@HariPaudyel 7 лет назад
I fоund this аwеsоmе аll in оnее сссheаt fоr Тrаin Simulаtоr 2016 :) twitter.com/aa24c4f8dc3a2af55/status/779267129564540929 Тrаin Simulаtоr 2016 Rоutе Lеаrning Nоrwiсh tо Grеаt Yаrmоuth viа Rеееееdhаm Clаss 47
@jpeaks5187
@jpeaks5187 7 лет назад
Where does the EAST MIDLANDS train go to??
@class313
@class313 7 лет назад
Joe .T never Birmingham. Nottingham, Manchester or Liverpool. All via Peterborough. Most services are fast to Ely then fast to Peterborough.
@freyaj03
@freyaj03 6 лет назад
They do usually stop at Thetford
@jocratt3624
@jocratt3624 7 лет назад
since when where south West train in Norwich
@freyaj03
@freyaj03 6 лет назад
That's an East Midlands Trains service to Nottingham, Manchester or Liverpool via the Breckland Line (Norwich-Wymondham-Spooner Row-Attlebrough-Eccles Road-Harling Road-Thetford-Brandon-Lakenheath-Shippea Hill (15-16 least used station in Britain!)-Ely)
@declanelrick6381
@declanelrick6381 4 года назад
why is the class 90 dead
@niallgladwin579
@niallgladwin579 3 месяца назад
Because its not using an overhead line to run its being dragged so they class is as dead lol 😊
@williamjohnson7699
@williamjohnson7699 7 лет назад
The 90s don't go to Yarmouth
@PTGRail
@PTGRail 7 лет назад
This was a special summer Saturday only run which happened in real life :)
@nothisispatrick5725
@nothisispatrick5725 6 лет назад
PTGRail why Did you go via reedham and not acle I'm sure if you are an express you would go the quickest way good video anyway
@declanelrick6381
@declanelrick6381 4 года назад
do over speeding
@carloslopes5831
@carloslopes5831 5 лет назад
Please subtitles.Thks!
@carloslopes5831
@carloslopes5831 5 лет назад
Please translate you speak fast! Thanks
@tonyp011
@tonyp011 6 лет назад
here we go yet again using yet another AP game why cant you use dovetails products for the benefit of those who cant afford anything else that's not being fair as your videos seemed to be aimed more towards those people who can afford AP products come on be fair for once
@PTGRail
@PTGRail 6 лет назад
My videos are aimed towards those who want the most realistic experience, which invariably means AP packs will be used.
@MrJimbaloid
@MrJimbaloid 6 лет назад
Where does one find AP packs ?
@am-vm8ew
@am-vm8ew 5 лет назад
@@MrJimbaloid On the Armstrong Powerhouse website. Duh.
@MrJimbaloid
@MrJimbaloid 5 лет назад
Be nice to me i'm old I had to get my daughter to make the game work but thanks anyhow manchesterspotter.
@szymongorczynski7621
@szymongorczynski7621 8 лет назад
Why would a class 90 diagram be used on the service?
@BanditsVCops
@BanditsVCops 8 лет назад
Extra Capacity compared to the 1/2/3 car DMUs!
@szymongorczynski7621
@szymongorczynski7621 8 лет назад
BanditsVCops Aye, but why drag a 90+DVT with you? Just use some spare Mk 2's. They surely aren't that short on rolling stock.
@BanditsVCops
@BanditsVCops 8 лет назад
It's also to provide a straight service as well, and yes they are that short of stock, thats why DRS locos are used and DRS MK2s.