Train Simulator 2018 - Mallard V.S. UP 844 (RACE!) 

The FEF-3 is actually programmed to break if it reaches above 140 MPH. For it to have broken mid-race means that for some time it exceeded 140 MPH, quite impressive for such a big old steamer.

Some things I would like to mention is that the 844 does actually have a higher top speed on level track. Something did happen with 844 in this video, but I’m not asking for a rematch. 844 also had to slow down much sooner because it weighs more than double the Mallard, Mallard being 104 tons and 844 being 223 tons. I’m just happy this race happened even if my all time fav engine lost the race.

Basic engine physics: -Larger loco with larger wheels= longer acceleration rate -Larger loco with large wheels at high momentum= more speed -Larger loco with a lot of momentum= Longer stopping distance And whatever happened to 844, I'd say she blew her steam chest. The wide open throttle with probably the most minimal of valve cutoff increased the steam chest pressure which was too much.

Mallard: we’re in the lead! 844: Hold my Beer

The 844 had the vtec kicking in 🤣

6:13 - “How do the physics work?” Still a lot more realistically than in the “Trainz” one. That’s for sure.

When the 844 was smoking badly the problem was that the pistons burst so that's why it was smoking badly

That just goes to show you, never underestimate the americans

DAYLIGHT V.S. FLYING SCOTSMAN!!! the most famous American steam engine v.s. the most famous British steam engine!!!

8:14 Mallard: *coughing* Good God! What happened to you? 844: Ow! I think my pistons have burst! I'm not used to these speeds, but I think it's now taken its toll on me. I guess it's back to the works, again. *The 844 feeling very sorry for himself* Mallard: Oh well. You bloody surprised me when you overtook me, I'm still shocked from your overtake. But I must say, you're not looking good at all. Do me a favor and don't race at those speeds again. I'd hate to see you end up in the scrap heap. 844: Thanks, Mallard. Though still, all respect goes to you. You really impressed me with you're insane speed. Well done, Mallard. I hope we'll get to race again in the future. Mallard: The sooner, the better.

The 844 takes longer to speed up and slow down because of how much heavier it is. This test also shows that the 844 is capable of higher speeds than mallard is, but since it was designed to withstand a max speed of 120mph it cannot run at those speeds safely.

Next race should be 844 and Daylight together vs Big Boy and Challenger together!

0:35(while your speaking ) 844: (American axent)" howdy Mallard" Mallard : ( British axent ) "oh,hi 844,blimey your bigger then me 844 : "I know,exited about the race " Mallard :" It might sound weird but I'm really nervous " 844:" Huh why " Mallard :" Well,do you know daylight" 844:" oh yes,I know her " Mallard :"well she bet me at the end of a race when I was racing her one day but I'm the fastest steam locomotive in the world" 844: (scoff) "Haha,I'm gonna beet you for the race today,haha" (At the start of the race ) 844:"Wait what how could it be ,oh right Mallard is the fastest steam locomotive in the world " 5:27 844:"Right that's it no more Mr nice engine " ( Some thing of the 844 break) 844:" Huh some how I'm going faster ,Huh I'm over taking Mallard,YEE HAW Mallard:" Wait what how is that possible I'm the fastest steam locomotive in the world " 6:24 844:" that's weird I'm slowing down,Ow! Owwwww! Bless the US I think I broke somethin' ,it hurts so much ow " Mallard':" See you later alligator daylight might have Beten me but I've still got the sprit in me " (Later) Mallard: "yes I won , whoa ,Huh that's weird , the buffers keep disserpering" 8:14 Mallard: (cough,cough)"Crickey your smoking alot what happend ?" 844:"Ouch,I might have Brocken something,this is the 1st time it happened to me,now I have to go to the works" ( A small tear fell down from one of her eyes and she started crying) Mallard:"Aww 844 don't cry , you might have lost but there's nothing to cry about,I can take you to the works" (Mallard gives 844 a tishoo to dry her tears) (At the end of a video) 844:"Cheers Mallard" Mallard :"Your welcome and when I was slowing down the buffers here keeps disserpering,I'm ain't joking I'm serious" 844:"Oh my ,sound serious" Mallard :" 844 after you've been repaird grab your friends,and I'll grab my family we got a mystery to solve" ( 4 weeks later ) Mallard:"humm,well you lot where's only one thing we got to do,we have to jump through the buffers " Spencer:"What in boxford , Mallard are you crazy" Mallard:"No I'm not Spencer I'm serious" 844:"Your brother dose have a point Mallard " Mallard:"Look here it might sound crazy to you but trust me it's going to be perfect,Scotsman,Gorden I want you two to cupple up to me I'm going down" (Scotsman and Gorden cupple up to Mallard and Mallard was on her way down" Mallard:"Okay chaps lift me up please" (The 2 brothers pulled their cousin back up) All:"What was it down there?" Mallard:"I couldn't tell, we all need to go down there together,but we ought to make sure we got all the things on the safety list first" Mallard:" Helmets" No.60 Jupiter:" ckeck" Mallard:"Goggals" 4449 daylight:"Check" Mallard:"harnesses" Big boy no 4023:"Check" Mallard:"hooks to attach to the harnesses" Nickle plate road 765:"check" Mallard:"And torches on the Helmets" 1225 pure marquet (A. K . A the real polar Express):"check" Mallard:"Okay chaps get those helmets, harnesses and Goggals on we're going down" (They got their helmets, harnesses and Goggals on and they were on their way down) Mallard:"Do you see anything?" Rest:"no really" 1225:"Huh,look over there" Spencer:" (gasp) Knott's berry farm,were in California (They all got back up and took the Helmets, harnesses and Goggals off and headded home) The end

Shame train simulator doesn't have Class J #611, as she was the pinnacle of American steam technology and was designed to achieve speeds similar to Mallard.

IT FINALLY HAPPENED!!!!! I’ve asked this for over a year now!! THANKS SO MUCH LAZER!!!

844 is a FEF 3 class 4-8-4 and it still operates today! It was built on December 24th 1944.

844 would've won if she didn't slow down, she has over twice Mallard's horsepower and tractive effort, as for in real life top speeds the Union Pacific never recorded it so it remains unknown, the FEFs were built to handle to 120 mph so that's a rough estimate. Also, I can say for certain that she didn't break.

Mallard in British accent: Wow! You're bloody bigger than me, but can you keep up with me? 844 in American accent: I can totally keep up with you. I've never retired, never will and I'll prove to you that we American steam locomotives are just as fast as you British engines! In the beginning

Mallard may be the fastest steam locomotive in the world, but our *44 has got something Mallard doesn't. Style and beauty ^^ Not to say Mallard's not a good looking engine, she is, but 844's is a sigh to behold as well ^^

Holy shit the 844's lead was incredible for the time it had it

Fireman:SIR!THE STEAM VALVE HAS BURST!WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN! Driver : WE CAN'T STOP!WE WON'T STOP!

The 844 is one of the fastest steam locomotives in America. People do think that it could have the potential in real life to go over 126mph.

I believe the 844 has burst a cylinder and Is leaking steam

Do A Race With All The Trains Of Thomas And Friends

844 wasn’t broken it was venting as most steam locomotives do when they have a certain pressure

I just can’t believe u didn’t make a video about THE JI FAMILY

"So its the Americans and the British Again" Me: I know its the American War Of Independence

mallard: im in the lead WOOHOO 844: EAT MY AMERICAN STEAM YA TINY BRITTIS BOY

8-44 tried her biggest best like no train has ever done in history!

Since the 844 is ment to haul heavy loads, and surprisingly had passed the mallard I think we could say the 844 is faster than the Mallard

I think I know what the problem is with the Union Pacific 844. I think it had to much power and broke herself when you put 135% power

Hi oliver can you please do silver link vs mallard

The Mallard has defended its title as the world's fastest steam locomotive!

Mallard: yes im gonna win 844: hold my beer

5:15 The Union Pacific 844 was just pushing through.

I mainly was the first one to ask for it on the laser JET live stream birthday one and thank you for this race LASER JET

There in Train Simulator 2020, the Kenny the UP 844 had false speed it rises up to 180 kph!

MAGIC BUFFERS MAN

Every steam engine that went faster than mallard: no record set yet huh Mallard: I'ma bout to go down hill

FIANLLY! I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should do 9F vs Class 7

Do Union Pacific 844 vs. Flying Scotsman

Would it be possible to see if the GNR sterling single and the GWR Dutch in a race? two 4-2-2s doing 135% power

I got a cool request for a race. The BR86 VS the 14XX.

Mallard: Im fastest and best 844: im not even streamlined and i overtook ya Mallard: but i still won 844: ...

What looks like happened with the 844 is the packing got loose and started leaking steam out of the Cylinder heads. This happens when there is too much pressure to the cylinders and causes steam leaks. The 844 would have easily beaten Mallard and in real life it actually could but Mallard still holds the record.

Class 43 VS P42DC, just to settle this for once and all. And then you basically have all e-locs, steamers and diesels fight against eachother. The colonies VS the motherland

844 definitely broke herself, steam was leaking out of the front and back of both cylinders.

So if you guys don't know since the 844 was designed for a max on 120mph and she was modeled that if it went 140mph or higher then her pistons and cylinders would start to stimulate damage and when to much damage was caused by the amount of speed the 844 was going at her safety value, packing glands and every thing else started to fail so she slowed down (I only know this cause the man himself smokebox which is the one who coded,modeled,and designed the 844 for this game said what I said but shorter so yes to the comments that say her safety value maybe to burst but failed she did not release steam from her pistons if that was they case she wouldn't have slowed down)

How about a little interesting, can you make your version of the great railway show race?

I love the big boy, but the Challenger is the biggest steam train that is running currently.

you should do the pump car vs the pump car

Hiro (Thomas and friends) vs flying scotsman

Actually, it is very likely that many American steam locomotives have broken Mallards speed record, not because of superior engineering, but because in designing the engines the Americans have a lot less restrictions in every facet. IE the Pennsylvania Railroad T1.

you know what i've been meaning to tell this for a long time about why the American trains are failing to win against the British locomotives. It's because the American trains are alot heavier than the British locomotives and take a longer time to stop, while the British trains are light and can stop in just a few seconds while American trains take minutes to stop. This is why i've been calling all your races unfair and i think you should change your rules so that they have to cross a certain point instead of whoever stops first is the winner.

Next race should be cab forward vs mallard, sir nigel gresley, coronation scot, peregrine, silver fox, flying scotsman, big boy, and duchess of hamilton, dwight d Eisenhower, and the virgin pendolino.

What a comeback

The 844 was “smoking” ( its steam ) because it burst a cylinder head from excessive speed ( around 120 MPH ) the safety valve is on the top of the engine and that goes off at 300 PSI ITS NOT SMOKE!!!

The Up 844 blew her piston Safety Valve because of the steam pressure not being released so the valve burst, and started losing to much steam in turn she slowed do enormously. I'm surprised that her piston Safety was the only thing that burst, with all that pressure her boiler safety could have burst and her boiler would have exploded. Just being realistic here.

Damn 844 looks like its breaking the sound barrier

4:13 you can also see the firebox glow from the outside on the real 844! You should do a race betwen UP 844 and Evening Star (9F)! both were the last steam locmotive built for their respective railroad companies!

My favorite race ever

alternate title: LaZeR JET being biased towards mallard lol

Well, UP 844 has 3,500hp but is twice as heavy. Mallard has 2,400hp but is smaller by far. This actually was a pretty tight race.

The next race should be a bunch of E2's. That'll be cool, for sure! :D

That speed....I would die from that speed tbh

Hey the next race should be the Mallard vs Union Pacific Big Boy .

Oliver, I would like for you to do another diesel race but this time do an American diesel race

I don't like mallard. Mallard wins at everything just because it is light which makes it stop faster. if this were a drag race where there were a finish line, Mallard would get obliterated. I would just love to see Mallard lose completely in a drag race against 844 for my satisfaction.

This is like shooting star is coming through

5:15 844: umayuwa mu shinderu Mallard:nani?!

Lazerjet the union pacific 844 can overtake mallard because the day mallard reached 126 mph is impressive I know that but mallard achieved that speed while going down hill and for the 844 one day it had reached a speed of 125 mph but in leveled land and if I'm not mistaken the 844 achieved that speed while pulling more coaches than mallard when it reached 126 mph so I think that the 844 can overtake mallard is because it's more powerful (I think)

WWEEEEEE!!!! Look how fast that is!

Never underestimate the great union Pacific 844

You should do city of Turo vs Union Pacific 844

The next race should be Black 5, Duchess Of Sutherland, Thompson B1, Tornado in BR Blue if you have, Castle Class, 14XX, LB&SCR E2, City Of Truro [BR Blue], Union Of South Africa, School's Class Chehthlam, Flying Scotsman [Sound Pack], Mallard, Daylight, Union Pacific Challenger, Polar Express, CCPR 4-4-0 Jupiter, Union Pacific 844, Union Pacific Challenger, Union Pacific Big Boy, Bodmin, 9F, Wadbridge, Silver Link, Bitern, Sir Nigel Gresley, Golden Arrow, Royal Scot,

Hell I remember tearing through the east coast in a prr t1 with 32 heavy weight Pullman at 157 mph for 30 miles non stop

Due to the tremendous power you put them on, 844 had to build alot of steam pressure due to the amount of power set, and the strength of it, once the 844 started to steam up from the pistons that was the steam pressure being relieved as the steam blow down powered up the pistons, it kicked up its speed.

I'm curious, could the 844 if given the chance to beat the world steam locomotive speed record? Could it possible achieve that?

The union pacific 844 is still faster than mallard the only problem is that the union pacific 844 doesn't have very good brakes

Race idea: 9F vs Big Boy, both are heavy goods locomotives, and it is also again UK vs USA.

That is a great race by the way

do union pacific 844 vs union pacific big boy

Its possible that 844 broke a safety valve or broke a piston

How about Mallard vs Sir Nigel Gresley?

Cool

You know that Mallard is the fastest steam engine in the world because it was literally going downhill during the test.

Union Pacific is steaming on the side because it's the cylinders

The reason why the Union Pacific 844 is smoking is because it's going too fast.

Hey, you've learnt how to say Mallard this time. Well done. That was a good test, both the same, what the point in doing a test with different settings from the real things is I don't know. I don't know much about how simulators work by why wouldn't you give them both 100% power? Why the 135%? Also, when referring to which locomotive is the best you really need to be comparing them doing what they were built to do ..... they were built to pull trains.

Can you do flying scosman vs the union Pacific 844

what you should really do is C&O 614 (125 MPH) vs Mallard (126 MPH)...!! make the Greenbrier give the Mallard a run for it's money!!! >=3

all the winners racing against each other

Mallard won only because 844 was bigger and needed to start stopping earlier

LaZeR JET,please do a strenght contest! Which loco can pull more?

You have hit 20,000 subs

Do a top speed test with the UP 844 to see exactly how fast it can go NOT DOWNHILL

Do one we’re it is the Union pacific 844 vs big boy

Hey, Lazer Jet I Had One Question. What Pass Did You Buy To Get The UP 844?

AURRGGGGGG!!!!!!! 844 IS DA BEST!!