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Derails are small devices capable of sending trains off the tracks and preventing disasters.
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Комментарии : 109   
@Coloribus2004
@Coloribus2004 27 дней назад
that poor GP30
@JustATeenageRailfan
@JustATeenageRailfan 27 дней назад
*GP39
@Coloribus2004
@Coloribus2004 27 дней назад
@@JustATeenageRailfan oh
@darrencatenacci2737
@darrencatenacci2737 27 дней назад
@@JustATeenageRailfanIt started life as a GP-30 was rebuilt as a GP-39.
@JustATeenageRailfan
@JustATeenageRailfan 27 дней назад
@@darrencatenacci2737 yes
@Aiden_likes_trains3
@Aiden_likes_trains3 27 дней назад
Respect to that gp-39
@samallan6616
@samallan6616 27 дней назад
They use automatic motorized derail devices to guard the Fort Madison IA swing bridge. They are near the signals and are visible on the internet cam.
@thomasmackowiak
@thomasmackowiak 27 дней назад
Thank you for this informative video on what forms derails can take, what their purpose is, and what the outcome is when a train or a car meets a derail. That incident in Washington State with the derail prevented a more tragic incident if the train had kept going and engines and cars ended up in the water.
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thank you for watching!
@shed66215
@shed66215 27 дней назад
What you term as a 'split-rail derail' is here in the UK called a trap or catch point and works on the same principal, being used to protect mainline tracks. Some are interlocked or locked independently but still require permission to unlock.
@wes5150.
@wes5150. 27 дней назад
Conductor: "I think we're on the ground!" Hoghead: "Nah, I'll just come out a few more notches!"
@CensoredConstantly
@CensoredConstantly 27 дней назад
I didn't even know these existed. Interesting. Thanks.
@paulkoza8652
@paulkoza8652 27 дней назад
I suppose the ultimate derail would be if the bridge were in the open position to water traffic. Even in dark territory, would not the bridge be protected by signals?
@rodchallis8031
@rodchallis8031 27 дней назад
Seeing the derail as the last resort, I wonder how many other safety procedures were missed before they served their purpose.
@fartloud1234
@fartloud1234 27 дней назад
With the technology that we have today, why hasn’t something been put in place for the train itself ( not engineer or conductor ) to communicate with the signals, & put the train into emergency if it passes the signal !?!? There has to be a better way than putting a locomotive on its side & jeopardizing the lives of the crew members & many more !
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 27 дней назад
There is it’s called PTC and BNSF was an early adopter
@The_DuMont_Network
@The_DuMont_Network 27 дней назад
Sometimes there have to be absolutes.
@rickgreer7203
@rickgreer7203 25 дней назад
They do, although we don't know the details of how and why in this case...and the cases where all that works don't usually make the news. This a backup to everything else...no matter how much else you have, these still have an important purpose "if all else fails". So the intentional derail ends up being a lot less risk than having the train go into the water, etc.
@KofaAvenueAnimations
@KofaAvenueAnimations 27 дней назад
Too bad that happened to a classic GP30.
@CoffeESbeve
@CoffeESbeve 27 дней назад
how do u tell between GP-30 and GP-38?
@darrencatenacci2737
@darrencatenacci2737 27 дней назад
@@CoffeESbeveThe cab is completely different the GP-30 is the only one made with that cab. GP-38 has the spartan cab same as GP-35 SD locomotives all shared the spartan cab till the wide nose cabs were introduced
@CoffeESbeve
@CoffeESbeve 27 дней назад
@@darrencatenacci2737 tahnk u
@darrencatenacci2737
@darrencatenacci2737 27 дней назад
@@CoffeESbeve No problem the various models have different fan configurations but that cab was the standard after GP-30. Spartan cab was basically used for all EMD locomotives.
@Bill_D.
@Bill_D. 26 дней назад
​@@darrencatenacci2737 the only oddball GP-30 is L&N 1044 wreck rebuild, Spartan cab with added trim strip above it to simulate a GP-30. It's pretty cool.
@ChainsawNW1218
@ChainsawNW1218 18 дней назад
Nice footage and video on the derails!🛤🚂
@mrtucey
@mrtucey 23 дня назад
I live in the Anacortes area and drive by the drawbridge on a regular basis and had seen the engines on their side at the time it happened. I didn't think I'd find out why it derailed and was happily surprised when you started talking about it and stopped to take a look at the derail, and it is a split rail. Thank you for the informative videos.
@edjones833
@edjones833 27 дней назад
Enjoyed your report.
@mrtjbiga1784
@mrtjbiga1784 27 дней назад
again thanks for the update 👍
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thanks for watching!
@AdamLassiter-nf5fw
@AdamLassiter-nf5fw 27 дней назад
Thanks for the info.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 24 дня назад
In Germany, devices for that functionality are usually called flank protection devices, as their usual use is to prevent flanking traffic from hitting mainline traffic. One common kind is a switch leading to a short dead-end track. These "trap points" are required on all high-speed mainlines (vmax > 160 km/h or 100 mph).
@anb7408
@anb7408 27 дней назад
And that’s why those things are called “derails.” Worked to perfection! Bridge was saved, and the crew got to visit the unemployment office!
@alwayslate1336
@alwayslate1336 20 дней назад
1:00 I count 11 blokes literally standing around with hands in pockets while 2 others work.
@wideslammer
@wideslammer 26 дней назад
Another interesting video. Thanks for posting.
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thanks!
@tootired76
@tootired76 25 дней назад
I'm impressed with how much a derailed locomotive digs itself into the ground!
@user-yb9sr8pp9o
@user-yb9sr8pp9o 27 дней назад
Nice show. Thanks
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thanks!
@Nderak
@Nderak 27 дней назад
may 19th was a few days ago so ill just say that csx8888 is the only train i know of that wasnt stopped by a derail
@goldie44
@goldie44 26 дней назад
I believe that was a portable derail they used for that, which was no match for a SD40-2 with 47 cars going around 60mph
@ronaldrondeau7870
@ronaldrondeau7870 27 дней назад
thanks great info
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thanks
@johncampbell-zj2yj
@johncampbell-zj2yj 27 дней назад
Great video news narration
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thanks!
@jeffreydeeds9225
@jeffreydeeds9225 26 дней назад
Excellent content. I knew derail devices existed, but had no knowledge of how they worked. Not anymore. Cheers!
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thanks!
@bengone3349
@bengone3349 27 дней назад
Interesting details of a very small device capable of taking out a BIG locomotive. Thanks
@trains2057
@trains2057 26 дней назад
Congrats on your observation mate!
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thanks for watching!
@jasonw2671
@jasonw2671 27 дней назад
Great video. Very informative. I can tell you from personal experience that derails do work and they work very well. On the local that I work, we have three different types of derails in one area. We have the split rail, metal shoe operated by a switch stand, and lastly the flop over style.
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thanks for the info!
@danielhildebrand6892
@danielhildebrand6892 27 дней назад
First one happened right near me. I heard it all go down on the scanner.
@jeffreybower5959
@jeffreybower5959 27 дней назад
there are a lot of possibilities that causes trains to derail and they are,, a collision with another object, a conductor error, mechanical track failure, broken rails, or defective wheels
@wes5150.
@wes5150. 20 дней назад
aka: "Split Point Derail"
@SouRwy4501Productions
@SouRwy4501Productions 21 день назад
I’m just amazed that BNSF is still using gp30s.
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 26 дней назад
Too bad there wasn't a derail in place at the Brazos Bridge over the Napa River back in the 1980's when two runaway GP9's dove off into the river.
@DaimosZ
@DaimosZ 26 дней назад
I mean with the way the Brazos Bridge was designed, I'd say it and the water below it had to do the job.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 27 дней назад
Yeah, that DEFINITELY beats driving off a rail at an open bridge into a river, MANY feet below. Interesting vid. It is amazing the energy contained in just an engine traveling at 20 mph. That thing dug a hell of a ditch.
@trains2057
@trains2057 26 дней назад
Its barely ballast over on that stretch of line.
@22NCRAILFAN23
@22NCRAILFAN23 27 дней назад
Nice Video V12
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
Thanks!
@Oklahomarailroadproductions
@Oklahomarailroadproductions 24 дня назад
Heavener yard over in heavener Oklahoma has a split rail heading out of the yard towards rich mountain
@Stoker58
@Stoker58 26 дней назад
Automatic switch point derail that’s interlocked with the bridge.
@OfficialRailFanTay_Productions
@OfficialRailFanTay_Productions 24 дня назад
Hey V12, i got a story for you. So 2 days ago, in my city NS 378 had hit a flatbed semi dragging it a couple hundred feet. If you want i can send some terrain aftermath photos.
@RICARDOGARCIA-wr9hx
@RICARDOGARCIA-wr9hx 27 дней назад
Of course, it has to be a Geep 30 I hope the crews ok
@AnonOmis1000
@AnonOmis1000 26 дней назад
Its crazy thing is, I can go on McMaster and buy a derailer.
@brandonharristsw7516
@brandonharristsw7516 26 дней назад
Oh no!
@jimcorn3268
@jimcorn3268 26 дней назад
The portable derail appears to be on the wrong side. It should catch the wheel flange
@Elliottblancher
@Elliottblancher 27 дней назад
what if the train was going way to fast??? will the derailer still be effective?
@me734
@me734 27 дней назад
Ever notice how bad-news-crashes-mishaps-etc, appear in batches of 3>5's-or-more ?
@rodchallis8031
@rodchallis8031 27 дней назад
"Things happen in threes." "No, you remember things in threes."
@matthewwolff3729
@matthewwolff3729 27 дней назад
Prime examples of why you ALWAYS spin brakes on equipment! Never take shortcuts, and this will never happen to YOU!
@DennisDerrick
@DennisDerrick 26 дней назад
So Engineer ignores dispatch/signals + derail = Unemployed Engineer.🙄
@ThomasHoover-gz8or
@ThomasHoover-gz8or 27 дней назад
i dont realy like derailers but they help
@SD40Fan_Jason
@SD40Fan_Jason 26 дней назад
Flip over style derailers have been known to fail at speeds greater than 20 mph. They made a mockery out of that fact in the movie unstoppable. All that effort to install a bunch of derailers when they could have just cut the rail and pulled it out of gauge. A split rail derailer will work no matter what. I hate to see that car on its side like that but either the customer sent it down the hill or the crew that set it out did not properly secure I when they set it out which is more believable to me. With the new rules following the lac-megantic tragedy, train crews are expected to put more emphasis on safety when it comes to securing unattended equipment, especially when it comes to cars being set off at a customer track. But I'd be willing to bet my lunch that the centerbeam featured in the video was not properly secured. And furthermore could have been prevented if the train crew had simply provided the one car with improvised wheel chocks. Believe it or not, a scrap 2x4 or pallet gleaning would have prevented this car from rolling off had it been wedged beneath the wheel at the time of setoff. Even a chunk of old rotten cross tie would support the weight at rest and keep the car from rolling. In my career I learned to never trust just one handbrake. And as for crews actively running over derails. There's two reason in my books for it to happen. First is complacency and I am guilty of putting equipment over a derail by being complacent. Luckily the cars were going the wrong way but I think my heart stopped when I watched a wheelset become airborne for just a moment as it struck the derail at 10 mph and landed back on the rail. The other reason is failure to communicate. I knew the guy who perished in Sanford FL when his train struck a derail in the early dawn light while shoving a set of ballast cars down a yard track. No one told them there was a temporary derail in place. Signal maintainers were installing station crossing signals on the same track and had taken it out of service the night before. I don't remember if they had kept the track OOS or if they had simply forgotten to remove the derail but in any case there was a lack of communication. The crew which were not technically qualified to operate here shoved 10 cars into the yard and put 6 of those loaded cars over a temporary derail. The person controlling the movement was riding the shove on the conductor side and was subsequently killed when the cars flipped over on top of him. Both complacency and non-communication are preventable reasons for going over derails and yet it's still happening at about the same rate today that it was 25 years ago when I hired out.
@Paulftate
@Paulftate 27 дней назад
Don't Mess With My Toot Toot
@kens.3729
@kens.3729 26 дней назад
There is NO EXCUSE for something like this to EVER OCCUR unless an Employee gets Complacent. This will be Fatal to your Future at the Railroad and it should. 🤪👎
@litz13
@litz13 27 дней назад
Details are aptly named, and yes they work. Darned near every time.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 24 дня назад
Depends on design and situation. 8888 was not impressed.
@litz13
@litz13 24 дня назад
@@KaiHenningsen that is true, but that was a scenario outside of design specs
@thebops4180
@thebops4180 26 дней назад
Wonder if the crew kept their jobs?
@jenesisjones6706
@jenesisjones6706 27 дней назад
Are you using AI narration now? (Just wondering)
@v12productions
@v12productions 21 день назад
No, still using a human ( :
@MilePost106
@MilePost106 27 дней назад
I remember back in the day these derails never existed.
@The_DuMont_Network
@The_DuMont_Network 27 дней назад
Well. I'm 77, been around railroads and equipment since I was 5, and remember my Great Uncle unlocking a derail when I was about 7. They've been around for a long time.
@SD40Fan_Jason
@SD40Fan_Jason 26 дней назад
​@The_DuMont_Network I was going to say, there were derailers in the 1905 US&S catalog that were pneumatic operated. Rules on derailers have been written I blood a long time ago. Derailers were placed anywhere that a car or equipment could be set out and left unattended, and the derail would prevent the equipment from rolling out and fouling the main track.
@danielcarlin7784
@danielcarlin7784 26 дней назад
Details have existed for over 100 years. You don’t remember that
@FirstName-hr8jr
@FirstName-hr8jr 22 дня назад
😂😂😂No wonder pots going to be a schedule 3 drug. I forget stuff, but an authorized switch? That's impossible for refer madness! Just admit it. It's why they won't work with us. If they'd slow down and smoke one maybe they'll remember the derail. Super sober sofa kings!❤🎉
@oklahomarailfan2010
@oklahomarailfan2010 27 дней назад
First!
@The_DuMont_Network
@The_DuMont_Network 27 дней назад
Who cares?
@CoreyLandry91
@CoreyLandry91 27 дней назад
grader
@tinindian9543
@tinindian9543 27 дней назад
ENGINEER JOE BIDEN !
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 26 дней назад
ENGINEER DONALD "DEMENTIA" TRUMP
@tinindian9543
@tinindian9543 26 дней назад
So how are you liking food prices, gas prices, wars, protest, open borders and so on ! FJB !
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 26 дней назад
@@tinindian9543 Yeah, a feeble, senile old man single-handedly managed to drive up prices globally AND start wars that Trump triggered AND deport more people than Trump ever did. FDT
@ronaldmcmurray6274
@ronaldmcmurray6274 26 дней назад
Only in America. Here in the UK we hardly ever have derailments. That's because we invest in our railway infrastructure. The USA is going downhill fast.
@user-ug6gd2ud8g
@user-ug6gd2ud8g 25 дней назад
So does the uk has derails too if needed
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