I replaced 4 Trane condenser fan motors this week on units less than 10 years old.. I take the whole top bracket off and lay it upside down. It's much easier than the way you did it. Just thought I'd share some of my 42 years experience
Worked on one of those last spring, 2 stage , kicked my butt until a friend clued me in . Not bad machines once you know how they operate. Customer sings it’s praises.
Nice work. I like the idea of just taking out the center and right screws on the shroud you can lift it up enough to get the whip in the electrical, easier than taking the 4 divider piece off.
Nice to see that a fan motor was required to be replaced. Some clown replaced mine with a unit that required a 7 point 5 run capacitor versus the five mf original. Ran at a severely compromised state until it wouldn't, ten years later at least. Probably cost me a few hundred in power bill's and shortened the Life of of the condenser fan motor considerably.
I’ve never replaced a fan motor on one of these Trane condensers with the top cover. Cool stuff! Also those top covers are like $500 what in the world..
I went back a couple times in the presentation, and see you removed some crews after the top was removed. I didn't see you re-install them though. Call-Back! Thanks Ted. 15 minutes could save you 1000's of BTU's. LG
Not sure why my comment is deleted, its usually just the GN01 ECM module that goes bad. Can be detached from motor and replaced without buying a new motor.
@@TedCookHVAC love our Trane units have an xr13 and XL16i. I like the xr13 better because it's never had an issue except for replacing a capacitor in nearly fifteen years of service. The XL16i has had a fan motor replaced and I've had to replace the ECM on the fan motor twice (finding used ecms online). Just about every 5 years the motor stops working (not a fault of trane - this is probably something that happens on all ECM motor units). I wish installers would tell people upfront how much more hassle a dual stage system will be in the long run. Maybe my comment was deleted because I said where I found the used ECM online? The most recent ECM lasted just a hair under 5 years. I was able to replace it with another used one for $100. It appears you can only buy the entire motor assembly new not just the controller.
Ted you ever see the welds on that X-bracket snap from the fan blade being warped. I went to a service call this week where two of the L- brackets snapped off and the head broke off one of the screws. There was only one screw left holding the motor. I do like those XLi units because they keep all the pine straw and dirt out of the bottom of the condensing unit
Ted you ever see the welds on that x-bracket snap from the blade being warped? I went to a service call on a XL14i this week where 2 of the L-brackets snapped and one of the screw heads broke off just leaving the threads in the motor. There was only one screw left holding the motor. I do like the XLi design because it keeps all the dirt and pine straw out of the bottom of the condensing unit.
What an unprofessional job. You didn't put a universal motor, didn't zip tie the wires and cap to the top grill, didn't leave out most of the screws.. You didn't even put the blade on backwards... That's how the "Pros" at Dilling do it in my town..
In 1-2023 that motor shows a price of $701.00 on line, plus of course the service labor to install. I’m sorry but the payback in electric savings does not outweigh replacing motors that costly and in this instance, apparently short lived. They can keep their ECMs I’ll take a standard PSC any day.
I'm thinking about converting the fan in mine to a PSC. Replaced the fan control module on the motor twice already. Motor is fine, it's the control unit that goes bad.
I've replaced the ECM on the motor with used ones multiple times without having to spend $700 on a new motor. It's about $100 for a used ECM. Some ECMs will spend the fan in the wrong direction so you have to splice the wires and switch them coming out of the fan before you plug into the ECM. It's pretty much trial and error but better than spending $700 on a motor every few years.
Could be a multitude of things, surges, defect that made it fail prematurely, possible overheated before from short cycles. Should they fail this quick? No. Do they? Yes. Just like all things mechanically and electrically they fluctuate in usage and power. Sometimes “it just does”.
Hey real time includes travel time, time to troubleshoot, time to order things, time to go back, time to pick up sometimes, time to do it, even time keeping thing in stock. We should charge for all of that Custmers dont understand that
Right? I have a whole rant on why these ECM motors are _bad economy._ Extremely costly & super short lifespan, that doesn't get close to being covered by the energy savings gained before it dies *(before* labor even). It's economy works out to; like if a plain LED bulb was $40. Where conventional motors were comparatively like an $6 CFL bulb, (but with multiple times the lifespan). The reason they fail, is the electronics inside the motor housing burn out (the windings are fine).
