Jessica has officially left the planet with her argument here. A man in the locker room is not the same as a lesbian in the locker room and yes there are absolutely physical differences between men and women.
both sides have left the planet, because the real issue is a man in the locker room breaks taboos, comfort zones and how things are organized. That's it. And that's good enough. It is not about safety, the lesbian is just as dangerous. More WNBA players are hitting or even in a few cases, offing their partners than NBA players are.
She just doesn't now what she is talking about. Its not just the presence of testosterone currently, it's the skeletal, muscle advantages of having testosterone over a decade or so. There is nothing you can take to revert those advantages. Women who have a higher testosterone levels (naturally) than others also have advantages over other women. Taking 2 years of hormone therapy will NOT reset a person back to puberty
@@neandrewthal - Whether or not they have periods is *completely irrelevant.* The only relevant question is whether or not they're actually *biologically female.*
It's worse than that. Who will repay these young athletes who's professional careers are burned to ashes, trashed? No there is no monetary value that can heal their lives. We know better.
The men were ranked 800th when competing against other men. When they changed to women’s they instantly went to being the number 1 ranked. So i can see why no one signed up 🤣💀💀
@@Timewave-Zer0 Not totally, that was the rank after taking the lady drugs. Before that, he was much higher ranked. But your point is still made because, although not ranked as low as 800, was not ranked at the top. He was a pretty good swimmer as a dude, he is a fantastic swimmer as a woman.
Jessica should be forced to sign up for wrestling or boxing and she can choose her opponent. A trans woman or a natural born woman and let’s see who she picks.
wait a minute, females and males are forced to wrestle each other thousands of times a year, it's called high school wrestling. and boys who refuse must forfeit the match. it's bad. but i don't see anyone protests about the unfairness of that, for some reason swimming is the big thing
but it does matter. it speaks to his credibility as a woman. unless you think it’s possible that a man being attracted to women makes him a lesbian. get a frickin clue bro
I lost all respect for Jessica on this topic. I dare her to go to a public swimming pool woman’s locker room and tell me she or anyone else would not feel uncomfortable if a male was changing/showering in the open
What ban? Thomas can compete in the open category that exists for this exact reason or even with males but it’s women’s spaces and titles that he wants. 🙄
@4:20 She literally contradicts herself when she says “You cant compare Lia’s earlier record with current record because you get better and stronger as you train more” and goes on to say “These hormones makes you lose muscle and lose strength” - Lia Thomas and all the other trans athletes just need to participate in either their birth/biological gender OR compete against other trans athletes. They seriously need to stop.
Lia's times were slower after the transition, some 15 seconds slower than before HRT. So it's definitely not "you get better as you train more" because even losing those 15 seconds STILL made Lia's times better than all the women's.
correct pronoun? how is that not just another kind of woke type thinking? Both sides are worrying about the right and wrong pronouns of transgenders. who cares which pronoun you use for rare indivuals that nobody agrees about, just say the one that fits your beliefs
@@emilianosintarias7337 because the existence of people either going by a different grammatical pronoun and expecting to be socially treated as the pronoun is incredibly new. People care because you're not a female, you're a male. It is a massive social change and an even bigger linguistic one.
@@emilianosintarias7337 That's exactly what Amber did and why people are cheering--she used the pronoun that fit her beliefs instead of conforming to trans dogma.
Did they force poor Jessica to take on the pro-trans viewpoint for the sake of putting on a debate? "Everyone's genitalia looks different." Amber looks like she is trying not to laugh.
Jessica, a man and a lesbian is a false equivalence. Just because you like to pretend human discernment doesn’t exist doesn’t mean that the rest of us are going to pretend reality doesn’t.
If he played lacrosse and took Jessica’s place on the team and got rid of her scholarship I bet she would have taken a second thought on this. Nobody ever cares about this stuff until it effects them.
Jessica Burbank does not seem to think females deserve equity, representation, or recognition in sports. That's discrimination. We're not talking about bathrooms, jesus.
Sports is not that hard. We don’t need a men’s category. There should be 2 categories. One for biological women and one open category for everyone else.
Thomas isn't barred from competing, he can simply compete in the "Open" category. This was created so everyone could compete fairly in the sport & he is welcome to do so. Crying because he isn't allowed to compete where he chooses isn't going to float this time & they made the correct decision on the matter. The "Open" category is just as stated open to anyone who wishes to compete for the medal. He could get the 1st place & make history in this new trailblazing category rather than compete against biological women which he isn't a member of no matter how he wants to spin it.
Jessica proves she knows nothing. Focusing on just records and comparing off that lets u compare the greatness of woman and compare it to the above average of a trans person
All trans women records need to be expunged in all women's events in which they won and the rightful winner rewarded. That's the only action that will right this wrong.
I find Jessica to be very unfeeling with regard to people - who would otherwise be seen as victims - whose plight impacts on her ideological beliefs. She had a similar opinion about car jacking victims in D.C.
Soooo, if I’m getting this rite, ol Leon Thomas wanted to beat up on girls and now he can’t do it on the world level so he’s butthurt. Hillbilly logic.
@@emilypulled312 Oh my bad, carry on then soldier. I thought you were saying hillbillies hate women and beat up women more than anyone else, and calling Lia one as an insult. I thought you were putting down Hillbillies, and I don't like people doing that
I’m 57 but I self identify as a 70 year old who won last fridays mega millions lottery. I demand my 30,000,000 winnings and that the federal government start paying the social security and Medicair benefits.
And comparing a lesbian to a biological man is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. You are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Is it because that is the appropriate position for a progressive? Which I was for 52 years? And I know about transitioning people from personal experience. Don't tell me....
The woman's world record for the 100 meter is 10.49 by FloJo. That time would put her only in third place among the records for high school boys. That is a huge chasm. Men who have gone through puberty have a physical advantage over women when all other things are equal. Hormone blockers don't change factors such as height and lung capacity. Too often liberal pundits make two bad arguments about this issue: 1) The biological men sometimes lose to women. However, take that argument to it's logical end, and the fact that Brittney Griner can beat Joe Biden in a pickup game doesn't mean that Shaq should be allowed to play in the WNBA. 2) The biological men don't win that often, so we should ignore it. Well it matters to the women working their butts off. Scholarships, sponsorships, professional careers, a chance at the Olympic team, all may depend on being in the top five instead of at number seven sitting behind three biological men in 4,5, and 6 place. An decent male athlete can easily become world elite when competing against women (as we see from the 100 m record example) without putting in the same work as the women he's dominating, and that simply is not fair to them.
Amber always gives a meaningful and well thought out opinion. That women does her homework. However, I do have to say that it's refreshing to see two people have a respectable debate with each other.
This is why we need Jessica on with Robby. She actually says she could "dust" guys in college. That has no bearing on an Olympic competition. If women could compete with men at the elite level, then women would be there no doubt.
So we went from "there's no differences between men and women" to "well, the dofferences diminish with hormones".. so I guess we're progressing. I do think we've reached peak wokeness and are coming back toward sanity.
What was Jessica smoking before she gave her opinion on this? OBVIOUSLY, it is fair to compare Will Thomas' success swimming (or lack there of) to Lia Thomas' success. And what point was she trying to make with the locker room situation. Point blank, no woman should be forced to change in the same locker room as a man.
If there aren't enough trans athletes to justify their own competitions then tell them to do art instead... Or give them some else award. Don't take the first place from the girls!!
