Is there like a trade off with this? I have the a PSU as well as an old 1080Ti, but I haven't found a tutorial for my laptop yet and I don't wanna dabble in untested waters.
Thanks for this, I have a 1050ti lying around and was thinking of using it as an eGPU but all I could find was either an m.2 version ( I don't have an extra one) or really expensive enclosures for thunderbolt method. This is exactly what I needed.
It is awesome. I have an intel 8th gen 2 in 1 which is ultralight and portable and a Razer core at home with my GPU, of course the performance is less than with a proper desktop pc but the performance increment from the stock intel HD graphics is incredible, I play at 1440p and have everything I need with this set up
@@trysometech52 Yeah, you can then launch that OS directly or mount it as VM, BlandManStudios YT channel has vids about it, don't remember the details but I think he puts an entire OS on a separate SSD for performance reasons
@@trysometech52 it works for me - MacMini 2018 and external SSD with Windows10 for games. Ie. "Bootcamp" on external drive. When I attach external SSD and restart Mac, Windows will start. Thanks for this video, presented solutions looks much better that my R43SG (unfortunately with same limitations).
@@trysometech52 Ohh ! sure you can, but "might" face some storage reading latency may be ! Let me tell you mine one ! My dell G5 gaming laptop went in coma last month. So I pulled its HDD off from its body, bought a Type C-HDD caddy, attached the HDD into it & connected it to 2nd laptop (Same ThinkPad with Ryzen 3 5300U 12GB RAM) in its Thunderbolt port & it is working fine ! Also thanks to "Win 10 adaptive adjustment in drivers"(This is what I call it, don't know the official name) which detected the pre-installed windows from previous system (Dell G5 Intel i5 8300H 16GB RAM NVIDIA GTX 1050) & installed the new drivers of AMD & other manufacturers. Reason of latency in reading storage:- 1. Not Clean-installed windows, 2. HDD is connected to Docking station & which is further connected to Laptop's thunderbolt (A long path ), 3. My HDD have bad sectors in a partition though I have Unallocated it so that HDD header never read it & keeps the HDD running .. So in such bad conditions if I can run things then why not on SSD ? PS - commenting from same system.😁
Nice video, fun to see how far modern egpu's have gotten compared to the old school jank of modding custom wiring from internal connectors and still seeing at best ~60% of your gpu's capability due to severe bandwidth constraints. Personally would be curious what else one could use an external pcie connection for aside from gpu's.
Don't wanna be the "actually, ..." geek here, but currently the most high performance and least bottlenecking way to connect an eGPU is via a 4x PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSD slot. It used to be quite janky and inconvenient but recently people started using an interesting server port called OcuLink to make it much more convenient and almost OEM like. Of course TB5 will be at least the same performance if not better but it is not out yet and even more time will pass after it comes out and we start seeing laptops and eGPU cases with it. Still, even after TB5, OcuLink will be the cheaper option as no licensing is involved there to make cables, eGPU enclosures and laptops that have it more expensive. GPD have created the first consumer ready laptop/handheld and eGPU that support OcuLink so let's hope we see more OEMs hop on the train. I already used the second M.2 port on my Thinkbook Yoga 14s gen2 to add a side mounted OcuLink, but it would be nice if we start seeing thin and sleek ultrabooks and 2 in 1s include OcuLink out of the box. For example a Dell XPS 2in1 with OcuLink is my dream laptop right now. If by any chance I got you interested in OcuLink you can check out mine and other 64gb/s bandwidth builds on egpu .io . Also The Phawx made a video about OcuLink on his channel comparing it to TB4.
Just to remind everyone again, that eGPU only works if u have Thunderbolt Port... not just any Type-C... bcuz some laptops do have Type-C port, but sadly, it's not Thunderbolt, which might become a waste to have eGPU
Thunderbolt 5 era will improve performance for eGPU because bandwidth will get around PCIe 3.0X8. By the way, the old school that Connected eGPU with M.2 PCIe 4.0x4 is interesting too.
CPU overheating, throttling, stuttering, and slow data transfer speeds using Thunderbolt 3 are among the least of its issues. eGPUs simply aren't worth the trouble.
It depends on what you want. If you want a light and portable laptop, that you can plug in when you get home and play on, it's your only option. A desktop PC requires a setup in a room - a desk, monitor, peripherals etc. And while you could try a HTPC for couch gaming, the UI of many games doesn't scale on TVs properly, so become unplayable. An eGPU or gaming laptop is the only option for couch gaming in many games and gaming laptops can't have their GPUs upgraded and are more expensive to run (and buy). I just bought an ultrabook for £600 with a beautiful OLED screen. I'll only play PC games on my sofa, not at a desk. I can buy an eGPU case for £150 and an RTX 4070 for £570 (new), putting my total cost at £1320. For £1300, you're getting an RTX 4060 laptop which runs hotter, louder and is less portable. And in two years, when I want to replace my £600 laptop with one several years newer with more RAM and a better CPU (and sell my old one for a couple of hundred £), I'll still have a laptop with a powerful RTX 4070 eGPU. eGPU is slightly more expensive initial setup, for more upgradability and flexibility in the short and long-run.
Unless it was fixed recently - you will get even better results when you disable iGPU. All the stutter went away, I was using laptop with i7-8565U in foldable laptop.
Great solution, not limited by metal case walls, only the connection bottleneck.... I guess with this card it will make more sense to wait for thunderbol5 and equip oneself with compatible computer and docking station.
So a budget gaming laptop for good CPU and good cooling with thunderbolt port and high build quiality is meta for gaming while staying mobile! Asus Tuf Dash or Zephyrus will cool the nice gaming CPU and will still provide amazing build quality and portability.
It won't replace an entire Desktop, but this is a good start! I remember Austin Evans doing a video similar to this and it worked very well for him...could just be his laptop though. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-18tqlbid0M4.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KuS8UN4Bh1k.html I believe getting a desktop is more flexible. Also, what game were you playing with the people on the motorcycles? Keep up the good work!
Awesome video! I’ve also seen users remove the Wi-Fi card slot with a cable to connect the gfx card that way and connect directly to the motherboard that way. Thanks for the show!
@@imAgentR exactly what I wanna do. I've got an i5 11th gen laptop with an Intel iris xe. Wanna get the casing and probably a 2070 super to test and see if I can maximize my 2k monitor
I would consider this if I was running something a bit newer than an i5 6300HQ. I'm not even sure if there's any ultrabook CPU out there at the moment that could beat out an i7 5930K which is what I have in my main PC. I might just have to get one of these eGPU docks to try anyways, since they really aren't that expensive, especially compared to the other options on the market. Looking at you Razer....
@@joeysherrett you can save $265 just by using ADT-LINK M.2 PCIe eGPU. It's average around $35 and can deliver way faster speed than USB4 or Thunderbolt 4
the good thing about the TH3P4G3 compared to other thunderbolt enclosure is its transfer speed is a bit higher 24gbps vs 22gbps (razer, gigabyte egpus) why is it only 22gbps instead of 32gbps is because intel thunderbolt controllers ensure the 10gbps for usb3.1
Idk what to say its simply amazing , can you make a more detailed video maybe showcasing step by step of connecting those cables 1 by 1 , am a laptop user and never had a Desktop . So no idea regarding what those other things like power supply and all mean.
Great take on this. I have a zenbook flip (12500H cpu) that I pair with a 3070 egpu for same reasons (I want the portability of the laptop when not gaming)..
I’m almost finished doing an entire build like this but with a Radeon RX 6650 XT. I bought everything used aside from the TH3P4G2 and the total for all the components was like $500 less than a gaming laptop. Im still waiting for the laptop to be delivered but Im hopeful it runs well enough to game.
It makes some sense if you have a lot of laptops most with Thunderbolt ports.. otherwise i would suggest a laptop with 4080/4090 or a desktop with the gpu.. you just take the gpu out from the desktop
There is a lot ppl with old laptops that has TB port. They can buy eGPU + 1080 or something. It will be a cheap upgrade. Not everyone got money for new expensive laptops
Asus y a pensé, pour avoir testé c'est pas mal même si les premiers x13 ont quelques défauts. De plus le gpu externe entraîne des problèmes si on souhaite jouer directement sur l'écran du pc ou faire du multiscreen, c'est bien d'avoir bcp expérimenté pour se faire un avis... Par contre en terme de style j'ai eu aucun regret merci Asus de l'innovation
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My only gripe was the external ssd being plugged on the external GPU... the bandwidth is already limited, why reduce it even more by having your games load from that same port... plug it into the laptop instead on a port that doesn't share the same address.
@@trysometech52 Thunderbolt has 40gbps (theoretical max) but in reality, with parity checks and all the overhead, it's closer to 31~32gbps under ideal conditions. And most GPU's need 16 lanes of pci-e and are getting less than 4 in the end and it also has to share and additional 5gbps with an SSD on the same lanes as the graphics... so yea that's another 15% off the table when the drive is in use. So of the original 40gbps it only gets 26~27gbps out of the ideal 120gbps the card wanted to use(16x pci-e)... and you're telling me there won't be any performance issues?
Hmm, I'd like to figure it out. Where did you get these numbers from? Why does an SSD have to take on 5gbps? Have you checked SSD usage during the game to understand how it will affect the bandwidth? Also, I heard from guy in the comments that eGPU uses around 22-24gbps, but I'm not sure how accurate this information is. It feels like we need some proper tests to find the truth
@@trysometech52 I am giving the Thunderbolt a "best case" scenario in its performance, I agree that the actual speed would be lower but it's to make a point of how much you lose, also the reason for 5gbps for a USB sata is that is the speed spec of the standard and fash drives over USB 3+ can read at over 500MB/s without issue. I use a nvme over USB external for my games and get around 550MB/s+ so, it would be over 3000MB/s but I don't have any extra slots for the nvme inside the notebook. So 550MB x 8 bits to a byte = 4.4gbps or almost 5gbps but once you add overhead and whatnot it gets to 5gbps in the wire itself. Of course, the game isn't loading 100% of the time, but at any time it is you will have a good frame rate drop as the total bandwidth will drop as it read/write the drive with games being regularly over 100GB you will have several reads on such huge files, so that is why having the drive not accessing on the same connection would give it all the speed to the video card.
I got your point, but in reality, SSD usage is so low in games, and it does not depend on its size. Try to run a few games and check it. Also, all that you said here is theory, I'd like to see some proofs. And I can't do it myself at this moment. Maybe later
those high cpu temps causing stutters easely gets solved with proper cleaning, repasting, undervolting and adding a coolpad below uncased back of the laptop like i do. If room temp is cool thanks to your geoclimate or AC... the better
COOL, Now also tell me how to de live stream with chat on laptop screen, And game recording for a RU-vider or else i would have to make a PC at the end, and i will use my laptop for recording and stuff.
students at school valorant championship: me: overly optimized $250 office laptop that runs in 100fps others: heavy gaming laptops with high refresh rate running in constant 240+fps the quiet kid:
Yeah, of course, that will improve performance. No doubt. Anyway, this laptop goes to my parents, and it was more like an experiment for me. Now I see how I can replace my desktop PC in the near future :)
it is nice if you travel a lot and your need for gaming is serious. But I prefer to keep the powerful machine at home and just use Steam Remote Play away from home. Of course, a good network is needed.
