Correct me if I'm wrong Ratchet said that soundwave was one of the oldest deception and a gladiator even when the decepticon didn't exist , during war , megatron made his army and named them deception and told soundwave to gather decepticons ( including starscream , thunderhoop and I think shochwave too ) Pov : so , experience goes to soundwave Btw editing was 🔥
You can say that but it's not necessary mean soundwave is older and i remember people saying that shockwave is older than megatron but maybe he has more battle experience more the shockwave
@@fexbdOptimus is one of the oldest cybertronians isn't he? He was the 13th prime reincarnated as one of the first cybertronians, this is based off of the Covenant of Primus lore book
@@2.0Transformers do you seriously think that shockwave wins this or you just made it this way cuz most of fans think shockwave wins against dreadwing?
Let me remind you that shockwave was the oldest decepticon in the whole prime universe, and shockwave jumped off skyscraper without taking any damage! Soundwave also has the thinnest arms in the whole transformers universe.
@@ЕгорИгоревич-н1ъI think he forgot when soundwave uses his ground/space bridges against his enemies + he somehow managed to get inside the autobot base and since he had laserbeak which at the time was going around once he received a new command to give it to soundwave by attaching himself with him and getting the objective completed and returns to the ship after finish the objective which is about capturing the medic and after finding the location of their base (thanks to laserbeak) so they can give alot of hard choices to the autobot medic.
@@mrblueberribluehave you forgot when he lost his eye sight after getting shot? Or the time when he almost lost his eye by bumblebee? I mean c’mon he won’t be that strong without his “optic”
Wheel Jack holding his ground until his team comes what a chad he may be outclassed, outnumbered but he always finds away no matter what he won't and will not give up
I'm sorry, my English is very bad, so I use a translator, so I apologize if there are inaccuracies. Soundwave, apparently, is very much and very often underestimated. Soundwave has superior speed, he has more experience in combat, because Shockwave is a scientist, and Soundwave was a gladiator in the Kaon Arena, if my memory serves me right. In addition, Soundwave's armament alone is enough to give him the title of the second most powerful Decepticon after Megatron. Laserbik is a very fast and maneuverable drone, one shot from which disabled the Airachnid, and the discharges of its small electro-tentacles were enough to temporarily disable Optimus. The tentacles of the Soundwave itself, which have sufficient strength to hold, lift or repel the blows of large transformers, such as Bulkhead or Wheeljack. And their electrical discharges were enough to completely knock out a big guy like Bulkhead for a long time. Ultra sound, which brings huge discomfort to opponents and almost incapacitates, can serve as an excellent weapon, because while the enemy is writhing in pain, nothing prevents the Soundwave from finishing him off. It works on everyone, from Arcie to Optimus. And, of course, a space bridge that can send the enemy to any point in the universe, for example, to the Melting Pit on Cybertron. But to use this ability, you need to guess a very good moment, otherwise the enemy will not fall for this trick. Soundwave himself is also a great fighter. Incredible speed and maneuverability is combined with excellent strength for his size, because he easily beat off and blocked the blows of such transformers as Wheeljack and Bulkhead, and he did it with his bare hands. Shockwave is also a very strong Transformer, but he probably just won't have time to react to Soundwave's attacks, because he is much faster. In addition, he is clearly losing in weapons. The only significant advantages of Shockwave are endurance, strength and strength. He is, in fact, a tank. Like Bulkhead, only stronger. If the battle takes place without the use of weapons, then Shockwave's chances probably increase
In any one on one fight Soundwave absolutely bodies, its been stated in MANY different versions of Transformers that hes been the only person to ever beat Megatron in a fight other than Optimus Prime, including the Primeverse extended lore
Oml lord no just stop bc you’re completely wrong soundwave is not Megatron level not even in this universe when they fought it was a NON LETHAL MATCH so ppl saying that doesn’t matter soundwave lost to wheeljack while shockwave bested him bulkhead at the same to and not to mention he literally destroyed GRIMLOCK of all ppl stop wanking soundwave it’s all you tfp fans do it’s annoying
@shockie3963 it was a fight to first blood, which soundwave won Keep in mind, nobody else has managed to draw blood from Megs in the entire continuity bar Prime and Ratchet on steroids On your second point, shockwave got his shit ran by Arcee, and then later got ran up on by Bumblebee, while Soundwave was running up on optimus 2.0 Shockwave ain't shit, stop jackin off to the guy so hard, you might accidentally spurt in his eye and permanently blind him
@@Daveo3 OK??? Soundwave got outsmarted by kids shockwave took on for autobots and one and in the comics he managed to take on the grim lock, and win so please try again 🙄
@shockie3963 and? Shockwave got outsmarted by Ratchet and was barely beating him, keep in mind, your "super genius" con couldn't even outsmart an old autobot medic and could barely beat him in a fight, Soundwave ran up on Arachnid, Starscream, Megs, Optimus 2.0, bulkhead, Ratchet, wheeljack, and Smokescreen, and won against each of them despite being at a disadvantage in most situations And Grimlock in the aligned continuity isn't some demigod, he's a supersoldier made BY shockwave, it's just common sense that Grimlock wouldn't be able to beat shockwave considering he probably has a verity of failsafes Soundwave ices shockwave and its not even close, that man never lost
This should be fun - wheeljack 2011 I've always found your loyalty questionable starscream but aiding the autobots - dreadwing 2011 Your reply is logical - Shockwave 2012 Soundwave superior autobots inferior - Soundwave 2012
@@WowThatsCrazy1408 You forgot Dreadwing got one shotted by Bulkhead whos slower and weaker? Everyone loves to say “oh b-b-but Ultra Magnus” when Shockwave managed to stand up fine after being used as a punching bag for ages and only because he is slow and has no combat skill
Nah soundwave would cook any transformer in prime n how yu putting ultra Magnus over bee n arcee lad sort it out!!!! Fire video tho bro keep em coming 🔥🔥🔥
Heyyy, my boys shockwave and wheeljack :] And shockwave wins bc he is smarter, but wheeljack also has really good fighting techniques from when he was introduced. I am rewatching most of the 2010 from now TF stuff bc why not, and I have seen a few of the movies including the newest, ROTB :]
Shockwave has plenty of strength feats, he ragdolled Bulkhead and Wheeljack and Arcee and Bee alone with one hand only, stopped Ultra Magnus’ entire bodyweight with one hand to roast his claw, when Dreadwing failed to overpower Bulkhead on his own, Shockwave also knocked out Grimlock WFC (20x stronger than Predaking TFP) in 3 punches only, and yes Shockwave WFC is 100% canon to TFP it’s confirmed in his wikipedia page
This edit was intense Lots of strong people here I think Soundwave is the victor since he teleport you into the sun But overall dreadwing or shockwave takes it
I feel like Soundwave and shockwave are a perfect duo in a battle if it was in a different realm. To be honest the decepticon im more into is shockwave (live action) & Soundwave (transformers prime).
he is better than wheeljack dreadwing shockwave and soundwave bc he defeated shockwave in mid diff and dreadwing couldn't really defeat optimus 1.0 but ultra magnus even fought predaking twice
Ima make some predictions for the extreme tier Strength : Optimus 2.0 Speed : Optimus 2.0 Iq : Optimus and Optimus 2.0 Biq : Megatron Weapons : Optimus 2.0 Combat : Megatron Durability : Optimus 2.0 Endurance Optimus 2.0 Abilities : Optimus 2.0 Hax : Optimus 2.0 and Optimus ( Both have matrix of leadership) Experience : Megatron Offense : Megatron Defense : Optimus 2.0 Power : Optimus 2.0 Skills : Optimus Ap : Optimus 2.0 Total score Optimus : 3 Megatron : 4 Optimus 2.0 : 12 Ultra magnus : 0 Lets see how accurate this will be and lets just pretend ultra magnus does not exist
sound wave was able to beat wheeljack and the spider deception wich is a rivel to arcee so id think that sound wave would be on mid tear or comander tear
