Transformers Size Classes Explained: Deluxe, Voyager, Leader (Legacy, Studio Series) [Soundout12]

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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:40 - How Classes Used to Be
02:52 - How Classes Are Now
08:18 - Core Class Explained
10:48 - Earthspark Classes Explained
12:21 - Deluxe Class Explained
13:50 - Voyager Class Explained
16:18 - Leader Class Explained
21:30 - Commander Class Explained
23:41 - Titan Class Explained
25:19 - Conclusion/Outro
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@SutargozTheKaijuFromKrypton 27 дней назад

THANK YOU for doing this video as someone who’s only now getting back into transformers, it’s a bit confusing hearing these various names and classes.

@Soundout12 27 дней назад

I’m so glad it helped!

@wadeseven5tv946 22 дня назад

@@Soundout12 Same. Had a few as a kid. Last summer, re-introduced and collected a few. Great clip, thanks!

@tonyjackson4078 26 дней назад

Many leaders are broken up by longtime collectors as legit Leaders and Voyager+. For example Dragon Megatron is a legit Leader, whereas most of the leader Triple Changers are Voyager +. The biggest giveaway besides size is the "extras" thrown in. Blitzwing has his hulk hands, Sandstorm has his cage, and Springer has a large loadout of accessories. Like the minibot deluxes are literally only different from Core by milimeters and just more accesories and engineering. Havent heard a fun fan term for "Core+".

@Soundout12 21 день назад

We could call Core+ "Scouts" to really mix things up

@haydenreviewscustomcombos 27 дней назад

I think Starscream should deserve his own size class/price point. If he’s not gonna be leader of the Decepticons, Hasbro has at least got to give him something.

@Getloose360 26 дней назад

😂😂 lol

@autobotdrift7805 26 дней назад

Seeker class? 40-45$ Price point

@haydenreviewscustomcombos 26 дней назад

@@autobotdrift7805 yeah. Something like that. I’m surprised that Hasbro hasn’t thought of that yet.

@rayvenkman2087 25 дней назад

Ultra Class as in Ultra Chad for Starscream

@lareh5501 25 дней назад

Well, they gave starscream's voyager size a coronation kit, a throne and a *_leader_* pricepoint. No other mainline TFs got an included add-on cape kit, nor an included throne. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@towzone 25 дней назад

Also, the design budget is per wave. So a small deluxe leaves budget for a larger deluxe in the same wave.

@ezragrun 25 дней назад

10:16 “Red guy and blue guy.” Didn’t wanna go there, huh? Also, great video! I’ve been collecting CHUG since 2006, and I’d say you’re definitely correct that the WFC trilogy is where engineering began to take precedent over size. I was stunned when I discovered that the Siege Shockwave I had paid $50 for was smaller than my 2006 Classics Voyager Jetfire.

@Soundout12 21 день назад

I'm definitely with you there. I started collecting with Classics and the size shock of Siege (plus the battle damage) had me take a back seat collecting the line that year.

@crumplezone4286 25 дней назад

While I already new everything covered I still very much enjoyed the video the commentary and your genuine interest in things like the commander class size is very apparent

@Soundout12 21 день назад

I'm glad to hear that!

@comicbossone2411 12 дней назад

What an excellent video. I’ve dipped back in again and it’s pretty wild. I’ve come for the new SS86 Bumblebee then found out they’re doing an OP as well. So I started looking back at Legacy as well. I’m actually doing it for my grandkids (when they come) but enjoy the collecting and research process. I did it for my son with Henkel, Universe and FOC. Of course I’m 45 and started out with G1 myself. I loved the show and the comics and the film and have bought all the DVDs. I presented the episodes and figures to my son like it was the 80’s and would show him an episode a day, then introduce some figures for Christmas etc. then after a year or two I showed him the movie (same impact… lol) and introduced him to more figures. I plan on doing the same with my grandkids as I love the morals of the shows and in this day and age it’s safe TV. Thank you for taking the time to explain this strange new world. Even I understand it now. Lol

@lukestarkiller1470 5 дней назад

This was super helpful! I just started getting back into transformers about a week ago and was confused why a lot of figures on shelves that looked pretty similar in size had such drastically different prices. It’s good to know that for the more expensive figures you’re generally getting a much better designed and put together figure than the cheaper ones. That will definitely help inform what I decide to buy moving forward and will help me feel more justified in spending more for nicer figures

@Soundout12 5 дней назад

I’m glad this video was such a great help!

@felipevega830 27 дней назад

Finally someone explains the class differences thank you so much!

@harrisonwhaley7872 27 дней назад

I mean it’s pretty clear cut lol. It just depends on the price of the toy lmao

@Soundout12 21 день назад

Happy to hear the video was helpful!

@Cheezy006 20 дней назад

Thank you for this video, when anyone complains about the current size/price classes I will point them here.

@Soundout12 20 дней назад

You’re welcome!

@haydenreviewscustomcombos 27 дней назад

I remember the cyber verse ultra class figures. That was the only other time I remember them using the term “ultra class”

@HeyJoruhe 24 дня назад

This video is really good Transformers figure therapy!

@Rad_Crab 24 дня назад

Honestly, I rarely see people bring up scale in these debates. People have short memories. Back in the day, scale was a joke. Every deluxe line had a starscream, a prime, a bee, and a megs and theyd all be the same height. Or the opposite extreme where Prime just towers over everything else. The current scale is about as good as its going to get, and I certainly dont mind paying extra to get a better figure either especially when theres so many 3rd party options offering better figures.

@jolttrontitan2755 26 дней назад

I think a new price point is in order 100%. The difference in Canada between voyager and leader is a huge jump of 30-25$. A whole deluxe in difference

@Soundout12 21 день назад

That's definitely too much of a jump. We need a class between

@fighterxaos1 26 дней назад

The video I needed as I always get confused by you and the guys talking about the size classes. XD

@wayigotitfigured9800 25 дней назад

Personally, I think the people that are size-queens need to understand the difference between size and engineering, but I do like the Ultra Class suggestion. Ultra Magnus is woefully out of scale because he's the hardest working toy in Transformers.

@greatwhiterex83 27 дней назад

Great video

@DragoonMS 26 дней назад

Also: some of the smaller figures in certain classes may or may not have additional accessories to add to the parts count. Examples include Earthrise Cliffjumper (basically the ol' skool Legends with extra stuff), the aforementioned SS86-4 Hot Rod, SS86-17 Ironhide (just his guns), Siege Shockwave & Astrotrain (and most other Voyagers with extra stuff), Kingdom Rodimus Prime, Legacy Motormaster (taken on his own merits, NOT for being the skeleton of Menasor, he's about the same size as Rodimus with a worse trailer that becomes a base that would make even Earthrise Optimus & Legacy G2 Laser Optimus laugh like the Joker), etc.

@GMAX77 26 дней назад

I see what you did there…”red guy” and “blue guy”. Lol 😊

@Soundout12 21 день назад

I've lived in the fandom debate trenches to know better XD

@therussianwanderer4851 26 дней назад

17:12-17:36 That was the reason I wanted to pick him up, besides the fact he looks cool.

@OogaBooga24723 26 дней назад

You should make a series out of this! Explaining multiple facets of the franchise, It would be great for those who want to get into transformers, now I have a video to point to whenever a friend wants more info on size classes/price points.

@Soundout12 21 день назад

I'm glad! I will definitely look into making more videos like this to help guide people who are new to a franchise.

@MahXyme 25 дней назад

I wouldn't call rotb Scourge having a complex transformation, especially as a Leader class

@slicerneons3300 13 дней назад

Budget does factor heavily these days on what size a figure is based on what other characters are in the same wave. Also should be noted a lot of G1 characters were placed in price points based on the height of the character in the 84 Cartoon. Yup, those names for size classes are not relevant at all.

@09hereweare 15 дней назад

Classes have never been about the actual height of the characters. Just look at the original Armada Megatron and Tidal Wave. They are the same class but not at all the same height. Classes are about price points, parts count, and paint applications.

@Daltinian95 26 дней назад

we really need ultra class back 100%

@justinyang6627 14 дней назад

Sandstorm should b in the lieutenant class & maybe tiger hawk

@ronaldclayton4232 25 дней назад

I've been in 3 Walmarts. over the last couple of weeks and all the regular deluxe figures(Not clearance)have been marked down or rolled back like they say to $19.99 I guess they just aren't moving.

@Infinity_WarTorn 27 дней назад

Wait are they raising prices for Warrior Class? $15 has made sense for the difficulty/size. $18 would def be pushing it value-wise.

@Soundout12 27 дней назад

$18 was what the hasbro site was listing. I definitely see the fluctuation in stores

@Infinity_WarTorn 27 дней назад

@Soundout12 dang that is unfortunate if thats the case. Warrior class is perfectly fine toy-wise but with a $2 diff from the kids line deluxe they might as well just make it deluxe.

@Soundout12 27 дней назад

@@Infinity_WarTorn For sure. Hasbro not fumble a kid’s line challenge: Impossible

@FalconsTech 27 дней назад

I could have used this video when I got back into collecting Transformers! Definitely took a while to figure it all out, and this video does a great job parsing it all. Totally agree that a class between Voyager and Leader is needed. If I had to guess both individual figures and an entire wave have a set budget. So, if they can stop forcing not-really-Leaders into that class maybe that can free up budget elsewhere in the wave? I haven't fully baked that thought, so maybe not lol. Those Earthspark toys don't seem half bad though. However, I do think they should be $2-3 cheaper for what you're getting. My understanding is Hasbro has a problem with getting new, younger fans into Transformers right now. The current classes and design of mainline toys seem almost entirely focused on adult collectors. I think the Earthspark line (or whatever replaces it) should have an additional higher tier as well so kids can get bigger Transformers with decent transformations and articulation while also not breaking the bank for parents.

@Soundout12 27 дней назад

I definitely agree the kids line needs more classes for toys for kids And not just larger and larger one trick pony gimmick toys

@kboy1158 27 дней назад

Man, I wish transformers figures weren't so expensive at Walmart and Target.😔😔

@godzillameister 27 дней назад

Here in Canada their more expensive at Toys R us

@paulurdanigo8523 27 дней назад

Make unboxing for shodo phone for Samurai Sentai Shinkenger (Samuraizer for Power Rangers Samurai)

@haydenreviewscustomcombos 27 дней назад

I think all the beast, wars and beast machines US cast should be core class if they want to scale with G1 transformers.

@Soundout12 21 день назад

This is true

@towzone 25 дней назад

No. Warrior class is physically cheaper, more hollow and less complex than deluxe.

@GMAX77 26 дней назад

Where would you place SS Concept Megatron? Initially I thought he was kind of “Voyager Plus” from pictures, but after picking him up and watching your video I can see how the engineering would bum him to the leader class. (Also I understand why Motor Master is a commander with the new system, but I do wish combiner bodies/leads were at the leader price point. Commander just feels a bit much)

@Soundout12 21 день назад

I think Concept Megatron can be a leader since he does have a lot of transformation tricks that allow for a ton of fan modes. Plus he has a lot of silver paint. (I'm really curious how Silverbolt will be, Menasor is basically drawn as a dude with cars slapped on it so this approach worked, but I'm not sure Superion will work the same)

@therussianwanderer4851 21 день назад

@@Soundout12 I think Silverbolt will be bigger. It's due to the fact the his alt mode in real life is very big.

@PrivateAccountXSG 24 дня назад

As a casual collector, the naming convention for the classes is so confusing it's repulsive. I dont care what size a voyager vs a core is... I know I just want a small one or a big one... I dont give a shit to learn the lingo. And don't get me started on naming them after generations or kingdom or whatever... I dont watch the Netflix shows and again, I don't care as a causal collector. The package just needs to say something like series-3 (for the wave release)/level-2 (for the size/price point).

@Soundout12 21 день назад

I always wondered how the annual renaming and the size class names played for casual collectors. They really do need something simpler

@TandooriJones 25 дней назад

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one in the world who remembers they said Siege Shockwave was Leader because the rubber used for his hose pushed him outside Voyager so they gave him some armor to make him Leader class. Because of that, I think that's actually the best example of something that could use a return to Ultra class like you said, because then they could have released it without all that armor everyone just throws away. Primal they would have to like take away his Transwarp Key and, less paint? I'm not sure what they would have to remove for him to be enough. This is still the best video on the subject on all RU-vid though.

@Soundout12 21 день назад

The hose being a budget killer makes a lot of sense. Thank you for the compliment!

@aunk1134 27 дней назад

I stopped collecting transformers after the kingdoms chapter from the war for cybertron toy line, not a fan of the plastic free packaging, I miss the earlier lines like combiner wars and power of the primes and titans returns.

@OogaBooga24723 26 дней назад

The newest lines do have scale, it’s one of the main goals of the new engineering system, it’s why rodimus is smaller than grimlock, what are you talking about?

@aunk1134 26 дней назад

@@OogaBooga24723 I miss the better packaging the pre plastic free crap, I just miss the line that had proper packaging, and were not so darn expensive, nowadays the scale like Soundout stated is more whatever the budget they want to spend on figure that will more often then not shelf warm

@OogaBooga24723 26 дней назад

@@aunk1134 what’s the problem with plastic free packaging? I mean, I know it’s for Hasbro to cut down on costs because plastic prices are more expensive than ever, but what the issue with it? I personally really like the plastic free packaging on leaders specifically because of the awesome art work we get instead of a boring plastic window. Whats the problem? On your second issue, that’s understandable, the prices are higher than ever, and figures aren’t selling as well, mostly because the G1 well is pretty much dried up and collectors are packing up shop and leaving, but I don’t really see how that’s an issue with this current line, the figures not selling isn’t the fault of the toys, it’s the fault of the marketing department.

@aunk1134 26 дней назад

@@OogaBooga24723 I have no problems with the art work I just miss being able to get a new toy without having to be worried someone has coughed/ sneezed/ touched with dirty hands, plus I will never be a fan of the open window, unless Hasbro can shrink it so only a small square remains not having it where with some core class figures anyone could just reach in and take them leaving behind an empty box

@OogaBooga24723 26 дней назад

@@aunk1134 that’s, pretty understandable in our current times, I never even thought about that to be honest.

@rerun40807 24 дня назад

Where's titan 😂

@Soundout12 21 день назад

It's in there!

@haydenreviewscustomcombos 27 дней назад

I think the only characters that deserve the leader class price point are Optimus prime and Megatron.

@masterben9592 27 дней назад

This video is for adult collectors because....wait wrong channel

@timeoftheend7156 26 дней назад

what is wrong with you? you think that rodimus trail just seats around doing nothing? in reality the trailer has to be this way because he needs it for the alt mode, and during robot mode the trailer doesnt integrate with him, they also made it that way so matches the scale regarless of how complex the transformation is. Your video is lacking lots of other factors.

@Soundout12 21 день назад

I don't like the way Rodimus' alt mode is done on the Kingdom, nor did I like it on the G1 either. It's a weak gimmick overall because outside of Rodimus standing at the cannon, it doesn't do anything. Prime's trailer has roller, a canon, a repair bay mode and a place to fit figures inside, which I wish Rodimus was more like. The scale of the Rodimus is fine as is, but him having a car mode isn't accurate to the original design either. Not to mention, he's not cartoon based but original updated design based, which I don't mind, but I wish they made the trailer more exciting overall for the Commander price.