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Patreon supporter Robert Betschman sponsors this week's episode, looking at one of the mightiest Decepticon combiners, and the Decepticon team who form him! From the Japanese side of Transfomrers, comes The Basics on LIOKAISER!
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@CsBTransition
@CsBTransition Год назад
There’s a fine line where Breastforce is too silly and Headmasters is A-OK.
@jonmason1742
@jonmason1742 Год назад
😆😆😆😆😆
@spanglezekankleplushapalooza
You sir, just made my day.
@mortelpaolo
@mortelpaolo Год назад
And her name is Heather Brooke. A true headmaster.
@davetycho8330
@davetycho8330 Год назад
Breastmasters?
@jonmason1742
@jonmason1742 Год назад
@@mortelpaolo I feel ashamed that I know axactly who you're talking about 😆😆😆😆🤷‍♂️
@tronmaster5704
@tronmaster5704 Год назад
That sigh before "breastforce" is just a mood.
@AFlyingSwive
@AFlyingSwive Год назад
I lost it at "horn breast"
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
He saw the comments section of the Deathsaurus video. He knew what was being implied.
@MezTZO
@MezTZO Год назад
I've always preferred the fan name, "Armor Masters". That way you can call attention to the team's main gimmick and pay homage to all the "-Master" sub-types of Transformers that were coming out at the time they were first introduced. It even works because each member had a smaller partner that becomes a part of them, just like Head-, Target- and Powermasters did.
@magatetus
@magatetus Год назад
That would work, the Armor Masters.
@ShadowWingTronix
@ShadowWingTronix Год назад
I like it. Also the Brainmasters. Someone get Hasbro on this.
@load-bearingcoconut5586
@load-bearingcoconut5586 Год назад
@@ShadowWingTronix Brainmasters are already a thing though?
@ShadowWingTronix
@ShadowWingTronix Год назад
@@load-bearingcoconut5586 No, that would be a terrible name for Leozack and friends. I was just adding to the "X-Master" list with the one partner team the original poster didn't mention as further proof "Armormasters" could work. In fact they could probably enhance the idea with armor pieces all over, kind of like how they botched the Mini-Cons by not focusing on their armor and weapon potential. Sorry I wasn't clear.
@Undrave
@Undrave Год назад
That would work well! And they could make it clear that using the animal partner as a weapon is giving up some of their defenses.
@TFormers2002
@TFormers2002 Год назад
It's unfortunate for Deathcobra in IDW because when Liokaiser made the cameo in combined mode, the artist accidentally drew and colored him with Hellbat as the left arm like normal despite him being dead. Which means Deathcobra still has not "officially" been seen as part of the Liokaiser form. Poor guy
@random_dev3703
@random_dev3703 Год назад
Well, I like to interpret it as Drillhorn becoming the left arm sense he is on the same side of Liokizer as hellbat.
@psychokitty444
@psychokitty444 Год назад
Having not seen Victory, that's actually really neat that they spent that long focusing on the individual members and building the team up. Makes Liokaiser himself much more of a payoff.
@Hektols
@Hektols Год назад
Watch it, things completely change when Liokaiser is introduced.
@bilal_MH-907
@bilal_MH-907 Год назад
liokaiser was one of my fan favourite combiners,something about his color scheme,design and his face sculpt,really wish if the combiner wars figure did got some Justice
@darkneon5637
@darkneon5637 Год назад
I like it combiners name Liokaiser
@hotwheelsFanxdversion-xm1rl
Who is liokaiser
@bilal_MH-907
@bilal_MH-907 Год назад
@@darkneon5637 ??
@eudacye709
@eudacye709 Год назад
A blaster enjoyer, nice !
@TFfangeek
@TFfangeek Год назад
A simple solution to changing Liokaiser's team name is instead of "Breastforce," calling the Decepticons who combine into him, the "Beastforce," by removing the first letter "r" in the groups name.
@pkrockinomega4184
@pkrockinomega4184 Год назад
Beast force is a way better name! They could also call themselves the Armor force because breast plates are armor.
@MezTZO
@MezTZO Год назад
It only semi-kinda works, because on hearing the name "Beastforce" your first inclination is to expect them to transform into animals themselves.
@TFfangeek
@TFfangeek Год назад
@@pkrockinomega4184 Armor Force is a fantastic name too. :D
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou Год назад
@@MezTZO The chest plates do turn into animals, so it does make sense.
@GioNToji
@GioNToji Год назад
All of them have animal names. Beastforce is good fit for their team's name.
@sivanlevi3867
@sivanlevi3867 9 месяцев назад
In Transformers roleplay, me and a friend of mine call these Decepticons something less embarrassing to say, but still close enough to the gimmick to be fitting. I gave them the name Heartmasters and also reinvented them into Decepticon members of the Transformers ninja group, the Six Clan. Members named, Leozak, Fellbat (renamed Hellbat), Jallguar, Ironbison (renamed Killbison), Guyhawk, Drillhorn, Lizak (who turns into Liokaiser's sword) and Cobranite (renamed Deathcobra, who turns into Liokaiser's shield) I also renamed their animal partners, giving one to Lizak and Cobranite as well. Lionbreast as Nemea (after the lion defeated by Hercules) Jaguarbreast as Jaguar (simple I know, but I couldn't think of anything else) Komoribreast as Revenant (spooky sounding) Hawkbreast as Rockbeak (kind of like Laserbeak, sort of) Bisonbreast as Rodeo (I mean why not?) Hornbreast as Dunehorn (close to his master's name, but it figures right?) Tigerbreast as Sphinx (he does have wing-like attachments after all) Eaglebreast as Garuda (after the bird monster from Indian myth) Cobranite's partner I named Coblast (slightly clever, but ya know) Lizak's partner is Sabor (after the leopard from the movie Tarzan)
@Nx57ytre
@Nx57ytre Год назад
I'm surprised they didn't make a comeback in the War of Cyberetron Trilogy, their original gimmick would have meshed well with the C.O.M.B.A.T. System. Maybe we'll see them in Legacy. It's weird, but I like Big Rescue Force Bot, at least in concept. Instead of turning into a humanoid combiner, he has a realistic mecha vibe, sort of like a MechWarrior.
@bilal_MH-907
@bilal_MH-907 Год назад
Its funny and ironic how the torso of combiner wars liokaiser is formed by deathsauas himself,whose a repaint of sky lynx
@tartatovsky
@tartatovsky 7 дней назад
Its both. Lore wise Deathsaurus and Leozack were damaged and had to be combined resulting in Dezaras. Which is also the reason why the choose Skylynx (Bird mode =Deathsaurus, Lynx mode= Leozack)
@i.m.evilhomer5084
@i.m.evilhomer5084 Год назад
I couldn't contain my Peter Griffin-esque giggles for this episode.
@sanedimentio
@sanedimentio Год назад
I was always of the mind that if the Breastforce would get localized with the breast animals they would have been renamed Armor Masters, as the style is similar to HeadMasters and Target Masters.
@anthonyfillbrunn2391
@anthonyfillbrunn2391 Год назад
That would make sense or you could call them combatmasters since there chestplates become both a weapon and an animal.
@AztecCroc
@AztecCroc Год назад
Or BeastMasters and then they could be called the Beastforce.
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 Год назад
They would have probably used the beast suffix instead.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
@@justinarzola4584 *prefix Suffixes come at the end, prefixes at the beginning.
@todddavis2041
@todddavis2041 Год назад
Well unfortunate name aside, i hope that if Hasbro or Takara do a modern remake of Liokaiser they do it accurately. Both in terms of name and appearance. Also, i hope we get Deathcobra and his partner too.
@user-ju2jj3vi4d
@user-ju2jj3vi4d Год назад
Deathcobra's animal partner is named cobrabreast.
@-mcpie-6802
@-mcpie-6802 Год назад
If I had to rename the entire team, I would go with "Crestforce", "Beastforce or "Shieldforce".
@sarahquinn6849
@sarahquinn6849 Год назад
I’ve always thought a good name to replace “breastformers” would be Maraudercons Also hoping to see an episode on Raiden/Rail Racer one day 🤞🏻🤞🏻
@kilroywashere513
@kilroywashere513 Год назад
That’s a interesting name🤔.
@snooze821
@snooze821 Год назад
Or just remove one extra letter and call them, 'Beastforce' which probably what was suppose to happen but probably a typo got pushed through and nobody corrected it in time which was very common at the time in Japan. It's what happened to Donkey Kong.
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou Год назад
@@snooze821 I think the Japanese intended it to be "Breastforce". If you look it up in the dictionary, one definition of "breast" is just the chest area of a person or other animal, male or female. The were probably just not thinking at all or completely unaware of the other definition referring to a woman's anatomy, considering all the Breastforce characters are male. "Donkey" comes from donkeys being stubborn. The whole mistyped "Monkey Kong" story is a myth. And Donkey Kong is a gorilla, so "Monkey Kong" would still be referring to the wrong animal.
@cameronmoriarty3313
@cameronmoriarty3313 Год назад
He mentioned recently he is thinking on an Autobot train video, but he is waiting (at minimum) for all of the MPG Raiden to be fully revealed to make sure it is included in the video.
@NovaSaber
@NovaSaber Год назад
@@KasumiKenshirou In Japanese media, the English word "breast" means "breastplate" (armor that covers the chest) more often than it refers to the chest itself. That's certainly what it means for the Breastforce. So maybe "Armorforce" would be a better altered name? (Or "Platemasters"? It's always been weird that they're the only "small partner gimmick" from G1 that don't have "master" in their name.)
@Gaia_BentosZX5
@Gaia_BentosZX5 Год назад
Correction: "The unfortunate name" is due to the fact that "Chest" does not exist in the japanese language, and is a unisex word to describe both a male and female chest. This is also present in Mazinger Z's signature attack, Breast Fire. In short, "Breastforce" (named after their unique gimmick) in this context doesn't sound sexual at all where in the context of Kiss Players, the word is seen as sexual. Keep in mind that this is happening during the "sanitization era" of US animation during the Satanic Panic, between stuff like Kissyfur and the Little Clowns of Happytown.
@GinraiPrime666
@GinraiPrime666 Год назад
Its not so much an issue with the name, if people look at the name and giggle like children then ultimately the issue is with them, not the Breastforce. If Breast Fire is good enough for Mazinger Z and most mecha fans can say that name with a straight face, I don't see why Transformers fans can't do the same for the Breastforce.
@captainlastreo5160
@captainlastreo5160 Год назад
@@GinraiPrime666 Fans giggle because it's a stupid name.
@friskybitzboi
@friskybitzboi Год назад
@@GinraiPrime666 You can’t pretend that the name works all that well in English. The word breast has connotations that “chest” doesn’t and it’s not immature to acknowledge that
@GinraiPrime666
@GinraiPrime666 Год назад
@@friskybitzboi Its not that its immature to acknowledge that, personally speaking I don't let it bother me. It refers to Breastplates which is what their animal partners are, refers to their armour. If the word Breastplate can work then I don't see why Breastforce couldn't, even if they changed it to how it was in the Metrodome Victory subtitles of Brestforce would be fine.
@kaylemathewcomendador6964
@kaylemathewcomendador6964 Год назад
So basically it looks like a regional thing.
@TheTimPilot
@TheTimPilot Год назад
Since Deathcobra never had its own toy, a friend and I made our own custom figure in 2019. It is fully transformable, has breastforce weapon and can combine with Liokaiser as his left arm. We made it as an exclusive for a toy con in Norway, and there now exists only nine figures of Deathcobra in the world. The next year we changed it a bit and made it as an Autobot called Diveblade that combines as a right arm.
@user-ju2jj3vi4d
@user-ju2jj3vi4d Год назад
Deathcobra will be an excellent choice for selects due to the release of siege Spinister.
@christopherbravo1813
@christopherbravo1813 Год назад
how did you make your own figure?
@GetIrked
@GetIrked Год назад
Why it’s always important to translate your product name into other languages! 😂 Chevy learned this when the Nova failed to sell in Mexico where it translated into “No Go.” FANTASTIC VIDEO!! I died laughing when you sighed before saying, “Breast Force.”
@Papai_Pai
@Papai_Pai Год назад
you would have thought somebody at the marketing department would have thought maybe armour force be a more appropriate name
@itszeronizer597
@itszeronizer597 Год назад
Here’s how I think they might work, they start out as new recruits, leozack could be the leader trying to rise to the top (although not through treacherous means unlike starscream, who could be his mentor) guyhawk could be a narcissistic jerk who becomes a better person, hellbat (or fellbat) could be a loner who later gets along with his team later on and has a friendly rivalry with death cobra (or ghost cobra) who replaces him later when he is killed battling the armies of unicron, jaguller could be someone with anger issues who often gets into fights, kill bison (or iron bison) could be a muscle of the group, who isn’t vey intelligent, and drill horn could be the team’s mechanical expert. The autobot rescue team could be shattered glass versions of them.
@cyberprime9355
@cyberprime9355 Год назад
Dubious Team name aside, I will call them "Destrons" since they are named that on their US Toy packaging and in the mobile game. Although, given their gimmick involving beast partners, why not rebrand them as the "Beastforce" or "Primal Force" Regardless, these bots are the stand-out stars of the Victory anime, what with their conflicting yet memorable personalities, and the stories that featured them (even if that is by of being Deathsaurus' Goon Squad). Also, I do hope Jallguar makes it in the mobile game if only as a non-combining member of the team.
@mikestudioz216
@mikestudioz216 Год назад
0:26 Nice addition of the sigh. Makes it all the more humorous!
@gluever54
@gluever54 Год назад
"So this charcter Death Cobra, he turns into a helicopter. Any guess to what helicopter?" "The AH-" "That's right! The Mi-24 Hind!"
@mr.end-game711
@mr.end-game711 Год назад
given that we are getting a six man combiner team from the Dinobots in Legacy Evolution, we could see an new iteration of Liokaiser in the future.
@svartmetallyst7712
@svartmetallyst7712 Год назад
And if you take into account the HasLab Star Saber and the recently revealed Galaxy Shuttle in the Speedia 500... I think a new Liokaiser and Deathsaurus is just around the corner (and I really hope that Road Caesar and Landcross are too).
@bluemodelt
@bluemodelt Год назад
Just gonna go ahead and say it. Thank you for keeping us ABreast of the situation.
@SentaiDadvsRiderGirl
@SentaiDadvsRiderGirl Год назад
There is a set of unofficial toys from Iron Factory for Lio Kaiser that's really cool and perhaps worth mentioning here.
@shadowmarauder6033
@shadowmarauder6033 Год назад
Another great english name could be “Beast force” to reflect their animal partners. Heck, the normal transformers could turn into animals as well if they go by that name!
@madskillz808
@madskillz808 Год назад
I can imagine that's the first thing hasbro thought of, but I reckon they didn't go with it because of power rangers.
@MezTZO
@MezTZO Год назад
I've always preferred the fan name, "Armor Masters". That way you can call attention to the team's main gimmick and pay homage to all the "-Master" sub-types of Transformers that were coming out at the time they were first introduced. It even works because each member had a smaller partner that becomes a part of them, just like Head-, Target- and Powermasters did.
@peterdanior4538
@peterdanior4538 Год назад
The name Breastforce isn’t so bad. Imagine if their weapons/animals were made from their crotch plates instead.
@ChaosCounseling
@ChaosCounseling Год назад
The Johnson force
@robertstephen8372
@robertstephen8372 Год назад
The Baby maker Force.
@samueltempleman5424
@samueltempleman5424 Год назад
Prickticons
@XENOS_Indie_Game_Dev
@XENOS_Indie_Game_Dev Год назад
Thrustmaster Force 6000
@AR-xd3dp
@AR-xd3dp Год назад
Maybe but the censors might not think so
@kirbymarchbarcena
@kirbymarchbarcena Год назад
Those Japanese really had some funny names to call their characters
@d23iu4hr
@d23iu4hr Год назад
Ahh, that blue and white rescue force car was possibly the final G1(?) transformers toy I ever received and it always bugged me that I never knew its name... and now I finally know, that it was because it never had one..!
@colestrawn4304
@colestrawn4304 11 месяцев назад
Personally a good name for them could be "adaptacons" because their partner figures can form into a chestplate/ detachable shield for added defence, a gun for long range offense, and an anine for scouting.
@Chill_With_Will
@Chill_With_Will Год назад
I think Liokaiser would make a great haslab. Especially if they could figure out a way to maintain the fact that the g1 figure didn't need any additional parts to combine beside like the head. Maybe a team of voyagers. Given how well Star Saber did its possible
@loothhussainfazeel855
@loothhussainfazeel855 Год назад
I like "Ultracon" as a new moniker for this group.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 Год назад
Ayyy that’s one way to call back Ratbat’s old group
@m.e.c.hn.e.s.t4757
@m.e.c.hn.e.s.t4757 Год назад
Additionally: the (sigh) Breastforce also inspired Soundwave's way to deploy Laserbeak in Transformers: Prime.
@Ontarioku77
@Ontarioku77 Год назад
Kinda surprised they didn’t just drop to R and call them Beast Force since they have the animal motif robot modes and names. Heck make them a dark parody of sentai teams like the Ginyu force
@ETH5626
@ETH5626 Год назад
I think Megatron would be extremely pleased having Liokaiser in his army, considering his brute strength, cunning, and unlike the other combiners (with a small exception to Predaking since he's always focused on one thing) he doesn't really have a mental handicap and has the ability to turn invisible. I mean I can picture Liokaiser giving Optimus Prime and the Autobots a hard time as if Devastator wasn't bad enough.
@XxAzraelGTxX
@XxAzraelGTxX Год назад
The Breast Force was a force to be reckoned for in Victory. Leo Zack wasn't the typical Starscream copy, he was clever, resourceful and an accomplished fighter. Even going against Star Saber without combining. Kaizer were also the reason [spoilers] Victory Leo exists. And Death Saurus was sometimes reluctant of them because of their skill and power.
@hobartpaving8986
@hobartpaving8986 Год назад
Never mind the odd repaint, I’d give someone else’s left arm for a Siege-level line of Victory toys (throw in Dai Atlas, Grandus, and Sky Garry too)…
@mettaton1669
@mettaton1669 Год назад
This is easily my favorite combiner team and combiner. I'm so excited to see you've finally done a video on these guys
@user-ir1xo9jp8w
@user-ir1xo9jp8w Год назад
The pauses after saying something related to "breast" is what made this video all the more entertaining besides learning about Liokaiser lol.
@calebporter3735
@calebporter3735 Год назад
I feel like a suitable replacement name would be "Blastforce" since someone on Twitter pointed out that in Japanese, it's pronounced basically the same way.
@Chill_With_Will
@Chill_With_Will Год назад
I feel like you could easily just change you could just change the name to Armor Force or something like that. The breast animals are on their chest like armor boom there you go its like prime armor
@serbianslav5494
@serbianslav5494 Год назад
3:52 For anyone wondering, the helicopter is a Mil Mi-24 "Hind" from the USSR.
@returnedtomonkey8886
@returnedtomonkey8886 Год назад
A Hind-D?
@user-ju2jj3vi4d
@user-ju2jj3vi4d Год назад
An mi 24 hind assault helicopter.
@christianbrown2471
@christianbrown2471 Год назад
Great video as always....I bought the Combiner Wars set a few years ago and just thought he looked cool as hell. Really didn't know his backstory but now it makes sense to me. Keep these videos coming bro...expanding my Transformers knowledge is always a plus.
@brainstorm9560
@brainstorm9560 Год назад
Ah, yes the Breastforce. 😆 I'm currently planning a fanfic which will feature the Breastmasters but I'm going to call them Thoraxicons (thorax is latin for chest and con is so they fit better with the naming convention of other Decepticon combiner teams). The Breast-Animals will simple be reffered to as minicons and their individual names will be Lionbeast, Komoribeast, Bisonbeast, Jaguarbeast, Hornbeast and Hawkbreast (I feel no need to rename Hawkbreast since breast just has a different connotation when its a bird). I'm also giving Lyzack her own minicon named Lynxbeast cause I feel she deserves it.😊 Despite the silly name, I love the Breastforce. Their dynamic was one of the highlights of Transformers Victory.
@brainlock72
@brainlock72 Год назад
I wish I had known more about this team for the Liokaiser combiner set. I would have picked it up when it was semi-readily available. Toy shop I usually frequent in StL got in numerous cases of Combiner era toys, but most of them were bought by some guy with Wyoming plates. They were packing him up as I was coming in. I had to joke and point out where I was parked. 😜 I did manage to get a few planes and other Combiners out of that lot, tho. I think I still have several chest pieces from Marshall’s when they were dropping there for $15. Only ever saw one SkyLynx, tho.
@RobinSwede
@RobinSwede Год назад
Classic Saturday vibes. Watching the latest basics episode followed by a new jobby review. Life’s good.
@Robbobobobobobo
@Robbobobobobobo Год назад
What the hell i recently got the rescue crane figure at a flea market! I never knew it was a recolored part of liokaiser that's so cool!
@dredskl
@dredskl Год назад
I like how they gave a 10,000 ton robot invisibility like nobody was going to notice his footsteps or something
@twistedwither9190
@twistedwither9190 Год назад
I have been waiting for this for so long thank you so much for making this! 😊
@jonpower9728
@jonpower9728 Год назад
I need to get this off my chest. I'm glad this video came out.
@ZonoYT
@ZonoYT Год назад
I love how Liokaiser is designed and I hope that he's the next Haslab project
@svartmetallyst7712
@svartmetallyst7712 Год назад
I hope not, because if Liokaiser is a HasLab exclusive, that will mean a lot of people (including me, yes) won't be able to get it.
@ZonoYT
@ZonoYT Год назад
@@svartmetallyst7712 sucks to be you lol
@I_Practice_Karate_On_Swans
@I_Practice_Karate_On_Swans Год назад
@@svartmetallyst7712 IKR! Why does everyone want Liokaiser in Haslab??? Just put him in the mainline like Menasor
@sidearmsalpha
@sidearmsalpha Год назад
@@I_Practice_Karate_On_Swans Because they'll just go cheap on it and reuse the same molds or remold them from some other figures like they did with the CW version. I have the TFC version and while it's not perfect, it's the best set out there with each figure being unique.
@bilal_MH-907
@bilal_MH-907 Год назад
About time,Deathsaurus' goon squad gets some love...even if some them are sadistic AF. But, slight Deviation, Hasbro authorized Liokaiser to be a 5-bot combiner to keep things even with Computron in Earth Wars....have to wonder if the 6th bot will come back as a gun for Liokaiser? Side note: Here's hoping the Trainbots get a little love. I mean sure they have Masterpiece figures, but nothing for others. Also, for those unfamiliar, these bots, currently called "Destrons" are actually called the"Brestforce" (Deliberately misspelled based on the Anime) Two of the members, "Hellbat" and "Killbison" were renamed to "Fellbat" and "Ironbison Also, said Kill//ronbison is pretty fond of "flipping off" his adversaries
@MoCa1979Jr
@MoCa1979Jr Год назад
Since they're kinda based off of the idea of knights wearing their crests on their breast plates, I've thought of a few new team names. "Crest Force", "CrestCons", or "CrestFormers" would be better names to me. They should have their "Crest Creatures" back, that double as their weapons & breastplates. And their new combined name should be "Crest King", "Kaiser Crest", or "Lio Crest".
@Autocon609
@Autocon609 Год назад
I never understood why Hasbro didn't import them and sell them as "Battlemasters" (We already had Head, Power, Target, Brain, God, & Micro). Battlemasters makes sense when it comes to the chest components: +Attack when a Weapon, +Defense when a Plate & Balanced when an animal.
@raizer3959
@raizer3959 Год назад
Just only one thing- how come Nosecone and Drillhorn both are same body styles, form, and shape, transform into alt modes differently, most notably their turret heads?
@ChaosCounseling
@ChaosCounseling Год назад
Thank you so much for covering my favorite combiner
@Kusanagikaiser999
@Kusanagikaiser999 Год назад
This is so unfortunate that these characters haven't been reuse more often just for a silly name of their team which even the dub version already have a good alternative name. This team was so fun in the Victory series, Leozack been my favorite of the group, I hope in the future a show reintroduce the whole team and Liokaiser as well, he is one of my favorites combiners ever created.
@Hydrogue
@Hydrogue Год назад
The Japanese don't have any issues with the name. It's more that they've simply been passed over like most of the characters from that era: you don't see any new mainline toys of the three smaller Brainmasters, Multiforce, Victory Leo, Deathsaurus or Galaxy Shuttle either. Star Sabre is the poster boy of Victory. Everyone else is out in the cold.
@dank_smirk2ndchannel200
@dank_smirk2ndchannel200 6 месяцев назад
Ribforce might be a good name. It's still named after the same general area while being a bit morbid, which is fitting for an evil team.
@Calaburst
@Calaburst Год назад
So cool, I still need to get the Victory DVD collection to truly enjoy these characters!
@keichishoshuko
@keichishoshuko Год назад
I grew up in asia owning Guyhawk and Killbison. and always wanted to complete the team. imagine my face when after I got back to TF hearing that these were super rare!
@CelesteOctavia05
@CelesteOctavia05 Год назад
Great vid! I’d love to see one of these for Override, she was one of my favourite characters in Transformers Cybertron
@tridentsilver766
@tridentsilver766 Год назад
Getting a legacy breastforce pack would honestly be so funny and cool I would get it in a heart beat. He a character that I would love to see released either in the Mainline or part of Haslab with incredible articulation and other goodies
@glennsalsi
@glennsalsi Год назад
I’ve added arms microns and some battle masters to my combiner wars look wiser members; I feel like if you add some bits to the limbs the members can look pretty good but I hate the torso; I so wish the had retooled combiner wars starscream into leozak!
@RockNerdRadio
@RockNerdRadio Год назад
I've always been a fan of these guys. Great episode!
@slicerneons3300
@slicerneons3300 Год назад
We deserve an official Deathcobra Figure!
@darrenheideman2546
@darrenheideman2546 Год назад
With Victory Saber getting so much attention recently...
@user-ju2jj3vi4d
@user-ju2jj3vi4d Год назад
Deathcobra will be an excellent choice due to the release of siege Spinister.
@kingtony_xx_0517
@kingtony_xx_0517 Год назад
To me liokaiser was unique, the way they toys had 2 gimmicks, that fact that the combiner was made up of 6 members instead of 5. So far the only new version on the "destrons" thats exactly like the originals was a 3rd party set. With Hasbro/Takara set to finish of Legacy Menasor within the next few months, there are plenty of Combiners for them to tackle now, who knows, maybe liokaiser will get a little love.
@handle69420cheese
@handle69420cheese Год назад
I kept misreading their name as 'Beastforce' instead but that could unironically work as a new name as well (considering their whole animal theme) lol
@sivanlevi3867
@sivanlevi3867 Год назад
I'm gonna include these Decepticons with a new team name and some new names for the characters, along with new roles in my Transformers fanfiction.
@maskedriderweaver4122
@maskedriderweaver4122 Год назад
I remember hearing about these guys when the internet first started to be big. I thought the name was a joke, but I found the characters (and the concept) very interesting. I'm glad they are making some headway into the West, but agree the name needs work.
@Hektols
@Hektols Год назад
I have the theory that the constant bond that they had with their animal partners is what allowed them to combine into the mentally stable and intelligent Liokaiser.
@gabrielchee8470
@gabrielchee8470 Год назад
Yeah,makes sense, like Piranhacon and Predaking used similar mechanics to stay sane
@ETBowser
@ETBowser Год назад
I love these guys. Thought it was cool that Leozack was the Starscream to Deathsaurus' Megatron, but Hellbat wound up being the biggest meddler of them all. They were all a bunch of backstabbers.
@darkangel076
@darkangel076 Год назад
Given the success of the Victory Saber Haslab, I've been hoping Liokaiser would be the next one up. Probably wishful thinking, I know.
@TyphonMar
@TyphonMar Год назад
Never know! They're doing some interesting stuff these days, we might see something
@soundwavedoesthings
@soundwavedoesthings Год назад
That, or maybe a Titian class in legacy evolution, with Tidal Wave being a Haslab
@andylloyd415
@andylloyd415 Год назад
I hope for Halloween, The Basics covers an appropriately creepy bot, like Mindwipe or Tarantulas.
@robertespley248
@robertespley248 Год назад
I'd like to see a basics on "Deaths Head" for Halloween, he's one character that can tie Marvel , Doctor Who and Transformers together into a sort of multiverse . Plus he's got a face that screams "Halloween "
@DavidHutchinson0713
@DavidHutchinson0713 Год назад
Tarantulas would be good
@harumochizuki
@harumochizuki Год назад
I’m seeing a lot of people commenting the seemingly loved fan name of “Armor Masters,” so I figure I’d take a crack at an alternate name. I saw the team deployed their companions as ranged laser weapons as well, and they still had the broad shaping as per the design of the toys in chest plate or animal form. I could see them redesigned so that the companions bots could be used in chest plate mode as a handheld shield, say, to accompany an energy saber. Ergo, how about “Shieldmasters?”
@patrickhein6986
@patrickhein6986 Год назад
Hi Chris. I would love to see an Basics on Autobot Nightbeat at one Time. He is one of my Favourite Transformers.
@brandonandcharlene9527
@brandonandcharlene9527 Год назад
LioKsiser is hands down one of my favorite Combiners. I'd love to see more encounters with them and other combiners like Superion, Bruticus etc. Also, Im one of the few that actually liked the CW toy, but if Hasbro/TT actually developed alternate deluxe versions of Leozack and Jagullar to form the body, and the limbs would still work, I'd definitely get them.
@moomanchu608
@moomanchu608 Год назад
I got the TFC Hades 3rd party version recently. Looks dope af. In fact its on my desk right now
@thomascollette4498
@thomascollette4498 Год назад
This should be in your obscure caricter month Playlist
@Protosilver97
@Protosilver97 Год назад
Timelines Seprpent O.R. (based on the GI Joe character) could do a good stand-in for Deathcobra, especially the IDW version.
@standardprotocolformat6090
@standardprotocolformat6090 Год назад
Don't know why, but, I am now craving a good old milkshake.
@chrisneustaedter6788
@chrisneustaedter6788 Год назад
Nice video about characters I've never heard before. But I kind of wish the next video would be about an Autobot again.
@chihiro_simp2716
@chihiro_simp2716 Год назад
I thought the next combiner was going to Menasor because breakdown was announced recently however, I really liked this episode
@NotKazuraMiller1557
@NotKazuraMiller1557 Год назад
Guyhawk is like Vamp from MGS2 and 4 He shoots ice knifes like Vamp.
@angelomendoza1174
@angelomendoza1174 Год назад
The westernized "Chestforce" name is fine, but there were other various names such as the "Rack Pack" or maybe "Bosom Buddies" for example!!! Did you noticed that the seventh member and Hellbat's replacement Deathcobra resembles Serpentor, which he was Cobra Commander's replacement as well as the new leader of Cobra!!!
@mekman4
@mekman4 Год назад
Great Stuff, as always!
@theofficialstarscreamchann2528
I am so happy this is my favorite combiner
@kinglarry3727
@kinglarry3727 6 месяцев назад
Is there any chance you could link a few of the Images you've used for these vids?, I love the high res opening G1 image of the team w/ out the text.
@HiperPivociarz
@HiperPivociarz Год назад
Okay, if that name is a no go, how about Beastforce? It's one letter away. It still describes their gimmick perfectly. And it doesn't make you think about jabbos.
@robrice7246
@robrice7246 Год назад
8:28 I know that some fan did custom Target/Battle Master animal figures for the combiner teams (and gave them names), don't remember who it was or what website it was from?
@ixiahj
@ixiahj Год назад
I remember watching the anime. Hellbat was my favorite. He was a funny character. There were times when I felt sorry for him because the situation just didn't go his way.
@Rojixus
@Rojixus Год назад
Watching this the day after my birthday!
@bsybilly
@bsybilly Год назад
I really do hope that there will be either Legacy line or MPG release of Lio Kaiser soon...
@matthewhazzard409
@matthewhazzard409 Год назад
A friend had the yellow recolour of the drill leg - we always thought he was a technobot!!! 😂
@tannerprice2018
@tannerprice2018 Год назад
Love Chris’ unfortunate sigh as he had to say the word “Breastforce,” as if he’s like “Ugh, people are gonna make jokes in the comments non-stop about this…”
@aidenmb7932
@aidenmb7932 4 месяца назад
Idk how it took me this long, but i only just learned he was a decepticon
@ghidotheone
@ghidotheone Год назад
The Japanese language has always preferred to use the word “breast” when using an English word for chest, and it’s never in reference to female anatomy. They did that because “chest” is very similar in pronunciation to an actual Japanese word, and that would be too confusing for the audience. But people can’t help but immediately associate it with boobs when it comes over here, despite the fact that terms like breastplate are still in our vocabulary. It’s not some crazy terrible word. They didn’t go around calling themselves the “boob patrol.”
@nexthegamer7221
@nexthegamer7221 Год назад
They didn't, but now that you've said this I shall never refer to them as anything other than the Boob Patrol
@reyonXIII
@reyonXIII Год назад
As an ESL tutor to Japanese people, this is why I tell my students to NEVER use Japanese English in actual English, to assume that almost all of these terms are incorrect, since, as shown with "breast" instead of "chest", either pronunciation or use are indeed incorrect. There are a few exceptions, like "anime" and "salaryman", but that's coz those terms are a culture unto their own. Though, I don't tell them to not use such in their own language, coz it's fine and ultimately harmless, with the sole exception of "mania", meaning what we would call "geek".
@misterpreposterous5771
@misterpreposterous5771 Год назад
You can defend penchant of the Japanese to use cool-sounding (in their opinion) English words semi-randomly in their media, but no matter how you slice it, "Breastforce" is a silly name. Even if you skip the mammaries connotation, the next most popular one refers to meat cut from poultry. If Hasbro has any serious plans to incorporate Japanese media to Transformers in the west, they need to hire someone talented to rewrite 80% of names so they don't stick out like a sore thumb. The recently announced Velocitron "Galaxy Shuttle" is one of those cases in dire need of a new name.
@geraldsyta6890
@geraldsyta6890 Год назад
Breastplate..... Wow u have a point there
@itsahostiletakeover
@itsahostiletakeover Год назад
No one is saying it ISN'T a silly name, but to seemingly treat it as taboo in 2022 is a bit strange. I started to mess with Chris on Patreon a few days ago and tell him his aversion to saying the team name perhaps says more about him than anything since men and birds technically have breasts as well 😅 But your response is far better!
@benc.delacruz1813
@benc.delacruz1813 Год назад
7:10-7:33 Great work on this oddly-named team’s history aside, I find it interesting that Gigatron is just Armada Megatron’s design given his own individual character. I just find that neat.
@ChrisMcFeely
@ChrisMcFeely Год назад
That's RID Megatron, rather than Armada. "Gigatron" was that character's original Japanese name, so using it was a way for them to incorporate the character into the comics without a name conflict!
@benc.delacruz1813
@benc.delacruz1813 Год назад
@@ChrisMcFeely Ah, my bad! Got my Megs mixed up. That is still a cool factoid, though.
@johngrady8375
@johngrady8375 Год назад
I think a good alternative name for the group could be "The Six Pack" in reference to their number, animal partners, and chest motif
@LordProteus
@LordProteus Год назад
If they ever merge the characters with modern transformers media, the "Chestforce" for lack of a solid name at this point, could come from the same colony planet as all those Animal themed Decepticons that still turned into Vehicles from RiD, the ones who were held on the prison ship Alcamor. That is one way they could explain the oddness of those Animal Decepticons from that series and leave the door open for such a concept if any future TF writers wanted to use it and bring back any of the RiD Alcamor Prisoners as-is rather than having to re-design them to fit. Steeljaw and Thunderhoof are probably enjoyed exactly as they are, so fans of the characters would probably dislike their designs being changed. I know I got off topic there but the out-of-placeness of the RiD Animal Decepticons always bugged me, so I always wanted to give them a proper explanation on why they are like that, and the Breast Force really fit the bill, given that they are Animal themed Decepticons who still oddly turn into vehicles.
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